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Life is a series of trade-offs. Let’s be more transparent about them. Our guests share the tough, unglamorous sides of the decisions they’ve made to live big lives and chase their dreams. Get inspired to own the hard choices YOU’LL make and stand confidently, even when it’s not what society says you “should” do. IG: instagram.com/for.the.love.of.podcast Web: fortheloveofpod.com
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We’re entering a new season (literally and creatively) and in true For The Love Of fashion, we’re embracing the pivot. In this "behind the scenes" chat, we share why we’re shifting away from a regular episode cadence for now, what it actually takes to produce a podcast, and how we’re making space for new ideas in 2025. Here's your reminder that pas…
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Do you find that when spring arrives, you jump into that buzzy energy too quickly and overcommit? Same. 🙋‍♀️ In honor of slowing down our seasonal tradition AND to reflect on the past 1.5 years of this show, we want to revisit our very first episode. Katie’s story is the ultimate pivot: from a six-figure job to bartending on an expedition ship in A…
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This athlete is dedicating 2025 to embracing the tradeoffs that come with a passion. Sydney Schroder is a professional snowboarder based in South Lake Tahoe. Originally from Texas, Sydney committed to a life and career in the snowboard industry 10 years ago and hasn't looked back. She now competes in free ride snowboarding at a high level, includin…
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When an injury limits how you can perform work, art, and creativity, how do you find joy? April Donovan, also known as the performer MC AP Real, is a rapper involved in three different musical projects as well as a formally trained artist, graphic designer, advertiser, and illustrator. April suffered a serious traumatic brain injury in 2018 that la…
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Access to nature is a fundamental right, and Vivianette is advocating for it in a creative way. Vivianette Ortiz Caraballo is a proud Puerto Rican, Latina, and madre living in Western North Carolina. With a passion for community resilience and adventure, she founded Latinos Aventureros to help others enjoy the fundamental right of access to nature.…
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⛵ Can you honor security and adventure at the same time? Tina and Rhett Jacobi are a husband and wife team living in the Columbia River Gorge. They co-founded their business, Big Water Construction, after returning from a several months long sailing trip, including an Atlantic crossing. In the middle of the ocean, they hosted their own Zoom wedding…
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FUN NEWS! ✨ The show has led to some deep IRL conversations lately, so we want to dig into YOUR life… What are the trade-offs and pivots you’re pondering right now? Thinking about a career change? Money moves? Parenthood decisions? Send us an anonymous “letter” (via this form), and Jeni and Angie will give you our perspectives on a future mini-epis…
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Pro athletes might look like they have ultimate freedom, but that lifestyle isn’t always what you think. Barrett Christy Cummins began her snowboarding career in the early 1990’s as the sport was starting to gain mainstream attention. From 1993-2003, she competed at the highest level, filmed movie parts and commercials, and enjoyed the perks of spo…
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“Life is a series of trade-offs.” “Never a failure, always a lesson.” “Did you see this photo of my cat?” We’re sharing our OWN honest reflections of the year, highlighting the top trade-offs we both made in 2024. You’ll hear about: Reckoning with the dark side of social media: do the costs outweigh the benefits? Where do you go online without Inst…
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What does training for spending weeks deep underground teach you about the rest of life? Katie Graham is a passionate cave and canyon explorer who discovered Canada’s deepest and second deepest caves. This feat was showcased in the 2023 documentary film “Subterranean.” Katie is a fellow of the Royal Canadian Geographic Society and president of the …
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What does it mean to uncage your own soul and find vitality, even in challenging periods of life? John Waller is an award-winning filmmaker, speaker, and adventurer. After founding the video production company Uncage the Soul in 2004, he dedicated his career to capturing wild and serene landscapes, as well as the stories of the people who call them…
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Marina Legree has an educational background in international affairs and public policy and has spent over two decades living around the world and working with international aid agencies. In 2015, she founded the nonprofit Ascend Athletics, which redefines opportunity for women in Afghanistan and Pakistan through mountaineering based leadership trai…
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When you watch epic ski films, do you ever wonder about the person behind the camera? Bjarne Salén is an adventure documentary filmmaker, photographer and entrepreneur originally from Sweden and currently living in Hood River, OR. Over the past 15 years, he’s traveled the globe to create documentaries, short films, and photographic works. Bjarne ha…
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This man has played many a serial killer on TV, but he's way more down to earth than his characters may appear. Ryan Devlin is an entrepreneur, rock climber, rad dad, and actor best known for his roles on shows like Veronica Mars and Grey's Anatomy. In his words, he’s “just trying to fit it all in.” He's also the host of The Struggle Climbing Show,…
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Ever get the urge to throw all your stuff in an Astrovan and leave your corporate job for good? Sunny Stroeer is a record setting adventure athlete and entrepreneur known for her feats in extreme sports and her work in outdoor adventure media. She runs two adventure guiding services and the nonprofit Summit Scholarship Foundation. Sunny combines he…
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Would you take a job that has you stand in a fiery pit that’s been burning for decades in the Turkmenistan desert, rig a rope across a boiling lake, and put yourself in the middle of Tornado Alley? George didn’t take the job– he made it, and he took his camera with him. George Kourounis is a National Geographic Explorer, storm chaser, science commu…
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Ready to be the most intriguing conversation sparker in the room? Angie and Jeni spill their previously unshared thoughts on life purpose, gratitude for pain, imposter syndrome, alcohol, and more as we surprise each other with deep questions inspired by our guests. It’s our celebration of 24 episodes with guests who’ve gotten honest on the trade-of…
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Everyone can feel the confidence of a drag queen on stage, but there’s more than meets the eye. Samuel Thrower performs as Slutashia, Oregon’s drag raptress. Samuel is a multi talented drag queen, vocalist, and rapper from Eugene, Oregon. Slutashia possesses a modern-day hip-hop aura and delivers her original rhymes with strong power and confidence…
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Picking up “The Perfect Storm” at a Blockbuster could forever change your life… Or at least it did for Matt. Matt Schollard is a former special operations Pararescue team leader and lifelong action sport athlete. As a water confidence coach, he is passionate about developing future special operations candidates, extreme athletes, and anyone curious…
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Being told he might have a week to live ended up changing Adam’s life for the better. Adam Spillman, once an athlete, transitioned into a coach, mentor, and motivational speaker following a life-altering cancer diagnosis at age 30, when he was initially given just one week to live. Now, Adam helps others unlock their full potential and enhance thei…
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The places we don’t always think of as adventure destinations are precisely the places Mason Gravley likes to explore. Mason grew up somewhere between the swamps, orange groves, and cattle ranches of central Florida. After vagabonding throughout the western US, he’s come back to find a deep relationship with his home state. Now, Mason's Lead Advent…
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Kayaking waterfalls and creating epic films looks glamorous from the outside, but if there’s one thing the river’s taught Rush, it’s humility. Rush Sturges is one of the world’s most influential whitewater kayakers, a prominent action sports filmmaker, and a devoted musician. Rush has honed his filmmaking and paddling skills on location in some of …
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Like it or not, we live in a capitalist society– so, what can we do to benefit ourselves and the world? Mel Strong started her career as a first grade teacher and journalist. A fateful interview with her long-time running hero Joan Benoit Samuelson led to a long-shot interview for an entry level job at Nike — a process that included running twice a…
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We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs. This former MLB pitcher discovered that he has more meaning and impact …
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We want your stories! (Yes, you.) We're collecting emails and voice memos about your own tradeoffs that you’ve made around your career. Go to fortheloveofpod.com/submit to share your written or spoken story about the pivots you've made in your career, work, gigs, or jobby jobs. Emily Holland is a podcast consultant and strategist in Boulder, CO. In…
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What if the day you faced a life-threatening sports injury was one of the best days of your life? And what does that mean for your loved ones? Married couple Sensi Graves and Brandon Scheid are professional wind sport athletes. Sensi is a pro kiter, retreat host, founder of Sensi Graves Swim, and speaker. Brandon is a pro athlete and kite designer,…
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Sports mirror life. So how can we use sports to live our happiest, healthiest, bravest lives? Bekah Rottenberg is the founder of Brave Endeavors, a professional mountain bike instructor, a NASM certified personal trainer, a Patagonia mountain bike Ambassador, and a former professional enduro racer. She retired from pro racing to focus on coaching a…
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What do you get when you mix a business idea with an out-of-the-box lifestyle? Wildpreneurship. Tamara Jacobi is the author of “Wildpreneurs” and founder of the Tailwind Jungle Lodge in San Pancho, Mexico. She's lived in the jungle on the Mexican Pacific for nearly 20 years. We talk about… - Blending personal and professional dreams to build an unc…
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Raising tiny humans is, for many people, the ultimate life trade-off. What happens when you’re a professional athlete, traveling the world and pushing your body, who then finds out you’re pregnant– with twins?! Majka Burhardt (she/her) is a professional climber, social entrepreneur, author, filmmaker, mother of twins and the Founder and Executive D…
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Having produced and released 12 podcast episodes into the wild feels like a reason to celebrate. Listen as Angie and Jeni revisit some of the thought nuggets that guests shared that they haven’t stopped thinking about. So far on For The Love Of, we’ve spoken with… A BFF who threw her life upside down to go to Antarctica A Mt. Everest guide who made…
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Most people see lichens as the weird stuff that grows on rock. But did you know their more glamorous role as “innovations arising from collaboration”?! Dr. Hannah Prather (she/her) is a NSF Postdoctoral Research Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Biology whose research has focused on the intricate relationship among lichens, bryophytes, and…
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Being a woman isn’t easy, period. But being a woman who climbed the high points of all seven continents fresh after a cancer diagnosis? We’ve got a lot to learn from Lisa. Lisa Thompson ventured into mountaineering after overhearing others’ adventures in her corporate office. She was climbing globally and had eyes on some of the world’s highest mou…
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After losing a toe in a mountaineering incident, Doug vowed to never let that stop him from living the adventures and seeking the awe he craved. Doug Beardsley has a background in pediatric neuroscience and as a public school science teacher. He’s filled his life with adventure, from velodrome racing to alpine guiding and from the first known solo …
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Women have made huge strides in sports to work towards equality, but there’s still far to go. As one of the most accomplished competitive snowboarders in the world, Erika “The Viking” Vikander has spent the better part of her life chasing snow and podiums all over the globe. Over the years, she became disappointed to see the lack of gender equality…
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After over 30 years of devotion to whitewater kayaking, what can one learn about life from the river? Anna Levesque is a mental agility and white water kayak coach who is passionate about empowering her clients with courage and confidence through her company, Mind Body Paddle. Anna is the author of the book Yoga for Paddling, was named one of the m…
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When talking about huge, scary topics like climate, it's easy to get all doom 'n' gloom. But nothing is ever black and white. Graham Zimmerman is an award-winning professional alpinist who's climbed across Alaska, Patagonia, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan, and all over the lower 48 and Canada. He holds leadership roles in a range of nonprofits and outdoor co…
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When your sport is closely linked to your relationships, how can you find your own path and feel fulfilled on your own? We chat with a rock climber, writer, and mother who’s been through decades of ups and downs, from losing a partner in an avalanche to ending an unhealthy marriage and from putting herself in death-defying outdoor situations to bui…
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A passion can add so much happiness to your life, but it can also be a way to run from trauma. We get to hear what that looks like from a pro athlete who’s experienced the highs in lows on the water, in relationships, and in his own mind. Jason Slezak is a professional kitesurfer and Patagonia Kitesurf Ambassador who has a 25 year (and counting) ca…
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Home to rapids with names like “The Hole that Ate Chicago”, the Stikine River Canyon in British Columbia is a Class V boater’s paradise. It’s packed with three days of big volume, remote whitewater, with no ways to leave until you make it through the staggering canyon. We get to dive into the mind of someone who recently paddled it all. Julian Stoc…
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From booty-shaking to crying in the dish pit, we’re welcoming the breadth of human emotions with Nika Kermani of NK STUDIOS! Nika is an artist, dance and yoga instructor, and the creative visionary behind NK STUDIOS, a repurposed autobody shop turned dance studio catering to movement, dance, art & community in Bingen, WA. Nika lights up any room sh…
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There are some stellar photos of the alpine facets of Dave’s life: a handful of Everest summits, two decades of ski patrol, the first ski descent of the Bottleneck Couloir on K2… But, more than anything else, Dave is a rad dad. After growing up in Connecticut and learning to ski at age 9, Dave found himself drawn to the mysterious call of the Himal…
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At age 29, Katie pulled a classic career move: throw your desk upside down, leave your stable 6-figure recruiting job, and go work in Antarctica. You know… as we do. 🤷‍♀️ What started as a bartending gig in Antarctica quickly grew into a multi-year career as a Polar Expedition Guide: lecturing aboard the National Geographic ships in Antarctica, lea…
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