A series of conversations with the people in the cabinet room when Margaret Thatcher resigned
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Margaret Thatcher was a triple election winner, feted abroad, whose premiership ended with her sobbing through her resignation statement. Ben Monro-Davies talks to the men and one woman in room where it happenned In this episode we hear from Peter Lilley. Lilley was and is an ardent Thatcherite. And out of loyalty to her - he felt duty bound to tel…
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The Fall of Thatcher - a Scottish perspective
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20:28Margaret Thatcher was the longest serving Prime Minister of the Twentieth Century. And she thought she more time to run - until her party - and in her eyes, the cabinet - deserted her. On the Big Ben History podcast - Ben Monro-Davies interviews the men and one woman in the room when she cried through her resignation statement. In this episode Malc…
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The latest Conversation with the men (and one other woman) in the cabinet room when Margaret Thatcher resigned in November 1990. Today's guest is Michael Howard, who went on to be Home Secretary and Leader of the Tories. He was an ardent Thatcherite - who believes she would have gone on to win the 1992 election - but felt forced to tell her it was …
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The Fall of Thatcher - more Grandeur, less Grantham
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39:21Andrew Turnbull, like other senior officials and her cabinet ministers, witnessed Margaret Thatcher tearfully read out her resignation statement to her colleagues in November 1990. As her Principal Private Secretary, he was also in the room for a series of one to one meetings beforehand where her colleagues told her the game was up. He recalls the …
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The Fall of Thatcher - Loyal Lamont's dilemma
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21:00This is the latest in a series of conversations with those in the cabinet room when Margaret Thatcher resigned Normal Lamont considers himself a Thatcherite. He thought his leader was right on Europe - unlike most of his cabinet colleagues. But even ideological affinity and personal loyalty could not trump the numbers in November 1990 - when the re…
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Perhaps no-one has experienced as bewildering a month in politics as Wiliam Waldegrave in November 1990. He was running the diplomatic effort to oust Saddam from Kuwait when he was suddenly promoted to the cabinet. Then just weeks later he was advising Mrs Thatcher if she could stay on. She couldn’t and he had a new boss - John Major. All just in j…
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The Fall of Thatcher - She could have held on
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26:04Lord Baker was Chairman of the Conservative Party at the time of Margaret Thatcher’s fall. He’d been given the job with specific aim of keeping in No 10 - and until November 1990 all seemed to be going fine. But Mrs Thatcher lost her temper with Geoffrey Howe in cabinet - he resigned - and gave a devastating speech to parliament calling for her to …
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The Fall of Thatcher - in the middle of war
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31:51Tom King was Margaret Thatcher's defence secretary. In November 1990 he was running the biggest deployment of UK troops since World War II for Operation Desert Shield against Saddam Hussein. He returned to find his boss on the way out and pleaded with her to pre-announce her departure so a more orderly exit could ensue. James Mackay was a Scottish …
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Charles Powell was Margaret Thatcher’s foreign affairs adviser for most of her premiership. They remained friends after she left office. He was with her in Paris when she discovered she had failed to beat Michael Heseltine by the necessary number of votes to avoid a second ballot. He reflects on her exit as a “party coup” that was little short of “…
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Robin Butler served Prime Ministers from Wilson to Blair. But as he said at her leaving do, there is only one anyone asks him about. He recalls her fall from power and his efforts to ensure the ship of state kept sailing.
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Caroline Slocock was private secretary to Margaret Thatcher - and the only other woman in the room when she resigned to cabinet. She saw her fall very much as a woman surrounded by and undone by men - even though she had little sympathy for many of Thatcher's policies. The moment affected her deeply - and she believes her eventual downfall must be …
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Barry Potter and Dominic Morris were private secretaries to Margaret Thatcher at the time of her fall. They were in the room when she stumbled through her resignation statement to cabinet. And they supported her in the painful days afterwards as power flooded away from the Iron Lady. As officials rather than politicians, they provide an all too hum…
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John Gummer was there in the cabinet room when Thacther resigned and afterwards helped write her speech defending herself in a vote of no confidence against Neil Pinnock. She would often warn him as a pro-European that she was about to go off on an anti-Brussels rant - but remains convinced she would have voted remain. For all the history of her as…
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John Wakeham was summoned at the last minute to try and save Margaret Thatcher's premiership. He was in charge of her campaign for six hours - long enough to learn she was doomed. His main job was to make sure she knew exactly how bad things were. It was a difficult task - given the friendship between them partly caused by the Brighton Bomb, which …
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