The $100+ billion cannabis industry is fueled by innovative strategies and visionary leaders. Each week, we explore the journeys of CEOs from publicly traded giants, world-renowned scientists, and underground legacy growers shaping the future of this transformative market. Bryan and Kellan uncover how these pioneers built their businesses, navigated failures and found success in this rapidly growing space. Join us to explore the lessons and insights driving the cannabis industry forward.
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Explore groundbreaking insights and executive thought leadership in the cannabis industry with our exclusive podcast series. Stay informed, inspired, and ahead of the curve with CannaBiz Conversations - the first podcast for executive thought leadership in the cannabiz.
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A laid-back, data-backed discussion on the cannabis market with notable industry leaders.
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Business is booming in the legal cannabis industry and more people are getting interested in the market. B.C. Wehman and Dustin Kava are entrepreneurs and friends working to grow their footprint and learn more about the business of marijuana and the people that make it happen. Join B.C. and Dustin as they talk industry news and notes, along with interviewing the growers and showers in the legal cannabis industry. "because cannabis" is produced by Wayward Media. You can follow Wayward Media s ...
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A Black Voice on Money (Economics) and Power (Politics) that affect the Black Community. Learn about the Stock Market, Cryptocurrency and more. Malcolm X reminds us that Education is the passport to the future. We must remain current to avoid riding on the back of the bus. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tbmps/support
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404 - Nohtal Partansky of Sorting Robotics - Innovating the Cannabis Industry
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33:39Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation podcast! In this exciting episode, we have a special returning guest, Natal, the CEO of Sorting Robotics. Join us as we dive into the latest innovations in the cannabis industry, including the impressive Moonglue product designed for pre-rolls and the recent recognition of Sorting Robotics on the Inc…
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402 - Michael Peterson's Journey into the Cannabis Industry
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32:13Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversations podcast! In this exciting episode, we sit down with Michael Peterson, a passionate advocate for cannabis and a budtender in Michigan. Michael shares his unique journey from growing up in Virginia, a state not fond of cannabis, to embracing the plant in a more accepting environment. Join us as we dis…
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Welcome to Season 4, Episode 3 of Cannabiz Conversations! In this episode, host Sean sits down with Kevin Hart, CEO of GreenCheck, to discuss the evolving landscape of the cannabis industry, particularly in relation to banking and financial services. Join us as they dive into: The challenges cannabis businesses face in securing banking relationship…
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Welcome to Season 4 of the Cannabiz Conversation Podcast! In this episode, your host takes a moment to introduce himself and share his journey with cannabis, from his early experiences in the Midwest to his passion for the plant that has shaped his life. Join us as we dive into the evolution of the podcast, highlighting exciting changes for this se…
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Secrets Behind Failed Cannabis Builds: Where Every Team Needs to Look Now ft. David Fettner
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49:36Most cannabis facilities fail before the first wall goes up. Most assume it’s because of money — but they’re wrong. It’s because no one asked the right questions. The question you need to ask now is: Where should we be looking to set ourselves up for long-term success? Asking the right questions is critical — because decisions made for today can be…
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Navigating Real Estate Retail Trends with Tom McGee
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19:57Retail is thriving! Join Michael Bull, CCIM and Tom McGee, President and CEO of ICSC, as we they dive into current market trends, consumer behavior, and the future of retail spaces. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real estate conference for networking, dealmaking, and investment opportunities, September 16-18th in Chicago: ht…
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The ROI of Pre-Roll Automation: Scaling Quality, Reducing Labor, and Hitting 20K+ a Day ft. Shahar Yamay
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39:00Every investment is just an ROI calculator. Automation feels risky—until you run the numbers. It doesn’t kill craftsmanship—it scales it. Growing your pre-roll category usually means balancing sales growth with hand-filling teams to maintain quality. But what if you could do both? What if you could leverage best-in-class automation to hit your numb…
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U.S. Medical Market Update with Paul Zeman
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10:54Join Michael as he explores the healthcare real estate market. His guest is Paul Zeman, President of Healthcare Real Estate Services at Bull Realty. Discussions include property level performance trends, cap rates, transaction volume and market timing considerations. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real estate conference for …
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Keep Your Eye on Ohio: Why California’s Failures Are Michigan’s Success, and the Global Cannabis Landscape ft. Hirsh Jain
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56:44What’s the real goal of a legal cannabis market? If it’s to replace the illicit market, create safe access, and drive tax revenue—then why is California, the world’s 4th largest economy, failing while Michigan is thriving? Despite California’s size and cultural dominance, cannabis sales are shrinking, cities are refusing to opt in, and the illicit …
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PwC Outlook from Tariffs and OBBB Plus Interest Rate Expectations with Tim Bodner
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32:06In this episode, Michael Bull welcomes Tim Bodner, the Global Real Estate Leader at PwC, to discuss the implications of the recently passed "One Big Beautiful Bill" on the economy and commercial real estate. Tim shares insights on the bill's impact, including the significance of bonus depreciation and its potential to spur investment in new economy…
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2025 C5 + CCIM Global Summit with Scott Overby
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13:55In this week’s show we spotlight the 2025 C5 + CCIM Global Summit, scheduled for September 16–18 in Chicago. This premier three‑day commercial real estate conference—co‑hosted by the National Association of REALTORS® and the CCIM Institute—brings together investors, brokers, developers, economic leaders, and CCIM designees for deal‑driven networkin…
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The Cannabis Titanic: The Reset Ahead, Matt Karnes on What the Numbers Say
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43:04Debt is coming due — and we’re approaching a point of no return. At this stage, it’s not if there will be fallout — it’s who survives it. The surface-level view of the cannabis industry hides deep financial issues that only become clear when you dig into the numbers. And that’s exactly what Matt Karnes has been doing for years. From cash flow strai…
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Organigram’s Competitive Edge: Paolo De Luca on BAT, M&A Strategy, and the Cannabis Long Game
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54:43Built to last. That’s not just a slogan — it’s a strategy. In an industry driven by short-term survival, the cannabis space often feels like a rollercoaster. Financial pressures and market volatility push companies to chase quarters instead of building moats. But what if you could play the long game? What if you could invest in domain knowledge, de…
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Economist's View on the OBBB's Impact on Real Estate with Ryan Severino
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34:18BGO Chief Economist Ryan Severino joins Michael Bull, CCIM to share his perspective on the OBBB's potential impact on the economy and real estate. Discussions also include the current and long term impact of tariffs, and what the Fed will announce on interest rates towards the end of 2025. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real…
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OBBB Impact on Economy & Commercial Real Estate with Mitch Roschelle
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30:18Mitch Roschelle joins show host Michael Bull to share the expected impact of the Big Beautiful Bill signed by President Trump. Discussions include bonus depreciation, tax cuts and incentives, and the impact on jobs, the economy, and real estate. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real estate conference for networking, dealmaking…
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The Michelin-Star Experience? Gibran Washington on What Customers Actually Want
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49:52What if buying cannabis felt more like a Michelin-star dining experience than a traditional retail transaction? Where the staff doesn’t just sell—they guide, educate, and tailor every recommendation to how you want to feel. No guessing. Just clarity, confidence, and trust—rooted in science-backed evidence. That’s the vision behind Ethos Cannabis. W…
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Real Estate & the Cannabis Industry in 2025 with Anthony Coniglio
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19:24Niche commercial real estate sectors often offer attractive risk adjusted returns. On this week's show, Michael gets the latest on real estate and REIT investing strategies in the current market and the latest on the cannabis industry from CEO of Newlake Capital Partners (NLCP) Anthony Coniglio. Discussions include economic outlook, interest rates,…
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AI in Cannabis Commerce Is Here — But Jane’s Doing It Their Way with Socrates Rosenfeld
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50:02AI is reshaping every corner of commerce — and in cannabis, where the pace is chaotic and change can be difficult, thoughtful integration is even harder. We’re in the middle of a digital transformation as profound as the rise of the internet. In a space where “speed and size” used to win, the new game is endurance. Because to finish first, you have…
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Trump, Texas SB3 & the Rescheduling Timeline: Jim Higdon on What Comes Next
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48:46Prohibition is dead — and Texas just proved it. The recent SB3 vote signaled the start of something much bigger. While hemp and cannabis operate in very different styles, both are ultimately pushing toward the same goal: a sensible framework for a one-plant solution. The how? I’ll leave that to people way smarter than me. But the genie is NOT going…
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Industrial Outlook & Forecast with Ermengarde Jabir
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19:38How are tariffs, wars, consumer spending, oil prices, and new supply impacting industrial real estate? Moody's Economist Ermengarde Jabir joins Michael Bull for an inside look at what to expect from the current industrial market. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real estate conference for networking, dealmaking, and investment…
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The Hidden Weakness in Most Cannabis Operations — What We Heard at Benzinga
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43:41The cannabis shakeout isn’t coming. It’s already here. Operators are bleeding, investors are disappearing, and the old playbook is falling apart. After Benzinga, one thing’s clear: the winners will be the ones who specialize, control every cost, and have visibility into every part of their business in real time. What happens when you pull back the …
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Could the Office Sector Be Changing? with Phil Mobley
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38:53CoStar National Director of Office Analytics Phil Mobley joins Office Investment Sales Broker and Host Michael Bull, CCIM. Phil shares his insights on office performance expectations moving forward, with discussions including leasing and transaction velocity strategies for occupiers, lenders, and investors. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premie…
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Storytelling Is the Future of Cannabis IR ft Jesse Redmond
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54:47What if the most powerful investor pitch wasn’t a deck or a breakdown of earnings—but a story? Now, the idea of seeds in the ground to thriving plants is a tangible experience—one that finally captures the real narrative. Because in cannabis, the financials don’t always tell the full story. This week, we sit down with Jesse Redmond, Head of Investo…
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Time to Buy or Sell? with Michael Bull, CCIM
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28:13Is it time to buy? Should we be selling today? What about development? On this week’s show, commercial real estate veteran broker Michael Bull, CCIM shares insight into the current market including acquisition, disposition and development timing. C5 + CCIM Global Summit 2025 - The premiere commercial real estate conference for networking, dealmakin…
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Multifamily Market Outlook for 2026 & Beyond with Carl Whitaker
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21:48What will rate growth look like in 2026 and beyond? Where are the opportunities for investment or development? Join host Michael Bull, CCIM and RealPage Chief Economist Carl Whitaker as they provide a behind the curtains look at the multifamily sector. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial Agen…
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Fix the Process: Real Cannabis Manufacturing Tools & Optimization Techniques ft.: Murphy Murri
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56:48Most cannabis operators are reactive—drowning in checklists, flooded with data, and still missing the point. Compliance gets all the attention, while real operational signals—like handling variability and shifting process conditions—lead to execution gaps and reactive decision-making. Extraction process optimization is tricky, but when the actual r…
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Brett Puffenbarger: The Future of Cannabis Will Look Like This… and Yes, It Will Shock You
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54:49What if we told you the future of cannabis looks less like dispensaries... and more like the milk aisle? Everyone’s chasing growth, market share, and the next hot product — but few are asking the deeper question: What will the cannabis industry actually become? While cannabis is certainly disruptive, its future likely follows a few predictable path…
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Self Storage Sector & REITs with Tyson Huebner
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20:16Tyson Huebner, Director of Institutional Research at Yardi Matrix, joins Michael Bull to discuss the self-storage sector and REITs. Topics include the current trends in self-storage performance, including the impact of recent market fluctuations and rental rate strategies. Tyson shares insights on occupancy rates, cap rate trends, and the evolving …
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No Exits, No Capital, No Bullsh*t: Seth Yakatan on Cannabis Reality
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45:37There’s no exits. There’s no cash. There’s no buyers. So what do you do? Batten down the hatches. Crush your market. Squeeze out the little guys who can’t compete — and wait. This week, Seth Yakatan returns to discuss the following: • How he’s seeing the board • Why cannabis can’t hit reset like other industries • What operators need to do right no…
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Senior Housing Market 2025 with Ernie Anaya
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25:28Ernie Anaya, President of the Senior Housing Group at Bull Realty, joins Michael Bull, CCIM to discuss senior housing performance and strategies for investors, developers, and operators. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial Agent Success Strategies - The ultimate commercial broker training res…
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Restaurants & Real Estate with Darren Tristano
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28:12Darren Tristano with Foodservice Results joins broker Michael Bull to discuss restaurant performance, rent-to-revenue trends, and what types of restaurants are doing well. Other topics include the impact of tariffs, immigration policy, and consumer confidence. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commerc…
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Where’s the Cash? Visibility, Inventory & Profitable Growth with Tyler Nielsen
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54:40"Cash strapped" might be the most heard phrase in the cannabis industry right now. So… where’s the cash? Without disciplined forecasting and visibility into true costs, growth is meaningless. Most companies aren’t failing from bad ideas — they’re failing in execution. That’s where cash leaks into missed forecasts, bloated inventory, and lost opport…
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REIT Commercial Real Estate Outlook with David Auerbach
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23:23Will REITs capitalize on acquiring properties in '25 before rents escalate in '26? How are REITs performing and how might you work with them? Join broker Michael Bull as he interviews David Auerbach, CIO with Hoya Capital about the market and REITs today. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial A…
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Why the Industry’s Premier Brands Choose The Flowery — and What’s Coming Next in New York & Florida ft. Ilya Shmidt
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45:00Florida and New York are massive markets — but they’re still early. Everyone’s fighting for attention, trust, and long-term positioning. So how did The Flowery rise to the top and become the go-to partner for the industry’s premier brands? 710 Labs. Wizard Trees. Preferred Gardens. Doja Pak the list goes on. These brands are some of the most sought…
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"Dab All Day: Luna Stower on Cannabis, Microdosing, and the Power of the Plant" Part 02
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16:02Welcome back to the podcast for Part Two with the incredible Luna Stower! If you missed Part One, make sure to pause and check it out for the earliest origin story we've featured on the show. In this episode, we dive into a rapid-fire discussion covering a range of topics in the cannabis world. Luna shares her thoughts on the differences between he…
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Big Tobacco Is Moving on Cannabis, the Global Strategy Is Unfolding, and Deepak Anand Reveals Where’s Next
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48:42Big Tobacco knows cigarettes are dead. They’re sitting on cash, looking for growth — and cannabis is the obvious move. They’re no longer silently watching from the sidelines. They’re investing, expanding — some through public acquisitions, others through quieter plays. But one thing is clear: it’s no secret anymore. Big Tobacco is here, leveraging …
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The Power of the Plant: Luna Stower's Journey in Cannabis Activism Part 01
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25:48Welcome to another enlightening episode of the Cannabiz Conversations Podcast! Join your host, Sean Welsh, as he sits down with the passionate and knowledgeable Luna Stower, a prominent figure in the cannabis industry. In this episode, Luna shares her incredible origin story, detailing her lifelong connection with the cannabis plant and her journey…
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International Interest in U.S. Real Estate with Gunnar Branson
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35:50Join Michael Bull and Gunnar Branson a they explore the surprising results of the Q1 AFIRE Pulse Report. This 30 year report surveys international investor's interest U.S. real estate. Considering the current utility in capital markets, the results are positive, with increased allocation to acquire assets. Discussions include sectors and cities of …
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Secrets Behind World-Class Extraction: How 1% Add Millions ft. Micah Anderson
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59:42Specialization is coming — and surviving will mean doing one thing better than anyone else. But that’s only the beginning. Getting there takes a relentless growth mindset: an obsession with stacking small operational wins — data, tech, genetics, process — to create massive separation over time. Extraction isn’t simple. And in a world of margin comp…
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Eddie From Lobo - Part 02 - The Story Behind Lobo Lab
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26:29Welcome back to Cannabiz Conversations! In this exciting part two episode, we continue our engaging discussion with Ed from Lobo, diving deep into the innovative world of cannabis and the unique projects he's working on at the Lobo Lab. If you missed part one, be sure to check it out for Ed's fascinating origin story! In this episode, we explore: T…
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Student Housing Sector Today with Brent Little
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24:05Join Michael Bull as he explores the latest on the student housing industry with Brent Little, CEO of Fountain Residential. Discussions include rental rates, occupancy trends, current cap rates, financing options today, and the leading class amenities at the new mega student housing projects. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: ht…
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If You’re Chasing Invoices in Cannabis, Listen to This ft. Brett Gelfand
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50:18You produced the product. They said they needed terms — “as soon as it sells, we’ll pay.” But the days kept going by… and nothing came in. In cannabis, collections are brutally difficult. With limited banking and tight cash flow, cash is king. So how do you know who’s trustworthy? Who’s a repeat offender? And where do you even go to collect? Sadly,…
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Eddie From Lobo - Part 01 - The Evolution of Pre-Rolls
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29:13Welcome to another exciting episode of the Cannabiz Conversations Podcast! In Season 3, host Sean Welsh sits down with Eddie from Lobo, a pre-roll company that has been making waves in the cannabis industry. Join us as Eddie shares his origin story, detailing how his love for music and cannabis began at the age of 16 during a Rage Against the Machi…
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Ethan Chernofsky with Placer.ai joins broker Michael Bull to discuss office trends impacting business and real estate. Topics include office occupancy in 2024 vs 20202, which demographics are returning to the office, and more. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial Agent Success Strategies - The…
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How Ayr Wellness Is Resizing for Reality — What Operational Efficiency Really Means ft. George DeNardo
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44:30It’s not about planting flags anymore. It’s about profitability. As the cannabis industry shifts from rapid growth at all costs to operational precision, hard decisions are being made. Which assets are sized properly? Where can we build a well-rounded, potentially profitable business given the realities of today’s market? And how do we make the rig…
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JP Donahue Part 02 - Building a Brand in Cannabis
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34:56Welcome to Part 2 of the Cannabiz Conversations Podcast featuring JP Donohue! If you missed Part 1, make sure to check it out first for the full context of this incredible journey. In this episode, we dive deep into the world of branding in the cannabis industry. JP shares his unique insights from his background in Hollywood to his experience as a …
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Impact of Tariffs, DOGE, & Immigration Policies with Ryan Severino
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30:35Ryan Severino, Chief Economist with BGO joins Michael Bull, CCIM to discuss the potential impact of the Trump administration's policies. Discussions include inflation, construction, lending, development, interest rates, and opportunities for investors. Bull Realty - Customized Asset & Occupancy Solutions: https://www.bullrealty.com/ Commercial Agen…
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Why Cannabis Companies Must Face Reality, Make Hard Choices, and Follow the Data ft. AnnaRae Grabstein
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48:29While it feels like progress isn’t happening — and that may be true at the federal level — inside the industry, it’s a completely different story. The financial model you built, the regulatory category you operate in, the market dynamics, the consumer behavior — every one of those variables is in motion. Constantly evolving. And new competitors are…
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Economic, Demographic, & Cultural Trends Impacting CRE Decisions with Phil McAlister
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31:25Phil McAlister, Head of Research with Inland, joins Michael Bull to share short and long term trends across markets and property types.By Bull Realty
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JP Donahue Part 01 - From Cornfields to Cannabis: JP's Journey in the Green Revolution
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34:04Welcome to Season 3 of the Cannabiz Conversation podcast! In this exciting episode, we dive deep into the incredible journey of our guest, JP, who has a story that reads like an action novel. From his early days of growing cannabis in the cornfields of rural Michigan to navigating the challenges of the cannabis industry in California, JP shares his…
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