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Making Bank offers an inside look into decentralized organizations in web3. Its goal is to showcase the people, ideas, and projects that keep us coming back for more. Each episode, we invite DAO members to join us for conversations about DAO life, the future of work, crypto, web3, and their journeys in this wild, weird and ultimately fascinating world of decentralization and new community structures.
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CityDAO Podcast | A Crypto City of the Future

City DAO Citizens & Host Eric Gilbert-Williams

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Visit www.CityDAO.io to learn more about the CityDAO project. This community run podcast is intended to provide information about CityDAO, updates on hot subjects, to inspire broader thinking and to trigger intellectually stimulating conversations for all who listen in. We interview CityDAO community members, Web3 thought leaders and people who are driven to effect positive change in the world through technology.
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Paul Neuner, the Founder and CEO of Telcoin, acompany leveraging blockchain technology to provide low-cost DeFi products for mobile phone users globally. What You’ll Learn: Why state-chartered digital asset banks may offer a more efficient path to crypto adoption than f…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Alan Orwick, the CEO of Dominant Strategies, a development entity creating tooling and applications on the Quai Network. What You’ll Learn: Why traditional stablecoins represent an "Achilles heel" for crypto How Quai Network's dual-token model (QUAI and QI) creates a co…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Ingo Ruebe, the founder of Kilt Protocol, a decentralized digital identity solution serving enterprises, governments, and consumers. What You’ll Learn: Why Web2 identity is fundamentally broken The difference between identity and identification How W3C standards are res…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by David Hoffman, the co-founder and host of Bankless, a cryptocurrency media brand and community that focuses on educating and empowering individuals to navigate the decentralized financial landscape. What You’ll Learn: The journey from Ethereum maximalism to broader cryp…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Patrick Young, Head of Go-to-Market at Galxe, a platform for Web3 community growth and engagement. Join them as they: Delve into Patrick's background in blockchain Explain how Galxe builds and maintains resilient Web3 communities Discuss Galxe's identity solutions, incl…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Joe Doll, general counsel at Magic Eden, a leading cross-chain NFT marketplace. Join them as they discuss: The transformative impact of the new administration's pro-crypto executive order How stablecoins could cement U.S. dollar dominance Magic Eden's journey to becomin…
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In this episode, recorded on February 22nd, 2025, Droste hosts a discussion with Trewkat (Miss Katrina) and Adam Miller (The Thriller) about Black Flag DAO's new membership structure and legal entity formation. The conversation, originally recorded as a Twitter Space on February 18th, covers the transition from BanklessDAO, new membership tiers, st…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Eli Cohen, general counsel at Centrifuge, a platform for tokenized real-world assets. Join them as they discuss: The evolution from traditional finance to tokenized assets How T-Bills are being brought on-chain Building regulatory-compliant RWA infrastructure Designing …
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Zac Williamson, CEO and co-founder of Aztec, a startup operating in the blockchain technology space focusing on privacy. Join them as they discuss: How ZK technology evolved from niche to mainstream The connection between privacy and digital identity Creating a new prog…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Mingchao (Fisher) Yu, co-founder and CTO of Babylon Labs, a non-custodial staking protocol that uses the underlying value of Bitcoin to secure a variety of proof-of-stake networks. Join them as they discuss: How Bitcoin can secure PoS chains trustlessly The journey from…
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In this episode of Making Bank, host Droste leads a roundtable discussion exploring the evolving landscape of DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations), examining both successes and failures in the web3 space through the lens of organizational behavior and human coordination. Our distinguished guests bring perspectives from academia, developmen…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Alexei Zamyatin, co-founder of BOB, a Layer 2 blockchain aiming to combine the security of Bitcoin with the versatility of Ethereum. Join them as they discuss: BOB's hybrid L2 architecture Bridging Bitcoin and Ethereum infrastructure BitVM implementation strategy Three-…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Lombard co-founder Jacob Phillips. Join them as they discuss: How Bitcoin's market capitalization is an ideal solution for DeFi's need for liquidity The differences in the mentality of deploying Bitcoin as an asset into DeFi versus deploying other assets like Ether Buil…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by LunarCrush co-founders Joe Vezzani and Jon Farjo. Join them as they discuss: How social media metrics can help determine the appetite for specific digital assets The metrics and categories that LunarCrush follows How AI has improved the team's ability and processes The …
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Mounir Benchemled, founder and CEO of ParaSwap, a platform in the decentralized finance landscape. Join them as they discuss: The features ParaSwap is bringing to the DeFi space Token approvals and security Regulatory landscape of DeFi Hybrid approaches to customer acqu…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Anthony Day, head of strategy and marketing at Midnight, a Layer 1 protocol developed by Input Output (IOHK). Join them as they discuss: The importance of data protection and privacy more broadly and on-chain Why Web3 needs to be professionalized for mass adoption The v…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Ganesh Swami, CEO and co-founder of Covalent. Join them as they: Explore the three facets of AI in blockchain: decentralized training, inference, and data Analyze Covalent's role in bridging Web2 and Web3 technologies Discuss the evolution of blockchain data needs from …
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by JP Thor, Founder of THORChain, a network that facilitates native asset settlement between Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB Chain, Avalanche, Cosmos Hub, Dogecoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Litecoin. Join them as they discuss: How THORChain is building a more interconnected DeFi ecosystem…
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In this conversation, Seun Lanlege, co-founder of Polytube Labs, discusses the evolution of blockchain technology, focusing on HyperBridge's role in cross-chain interoperability. He shares his journey into the Web3 space, the challenges of security in cross-chain communication, and the importance of cryptography. Seun emphasizes the need for a hub …
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BanklessDAO is undergoing both a name change and a redefinition of purpose. Helping frame and steward this set of challenges is a six member Transition Council formed earlier this year: Hiro Kennelly, Trewkat, WinVerse, Coffee Crusher, Rowan and ZFi. This episode seeks to encapsulate both the origin story of our organization and get you up to speed…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Fabian Gompf, Chief Executive Officer of the Web3 Foundation, created to nurture and steward technologies and applications in the field of decentralized web software protocols, particularly those that utilize modern cryptographic methods to safeguard decentralization fo…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Ken Timsit, head of Cronos Labs, a Web3 startup accelerator focusing on decentralized finance and blockchain games, and on developing the Cronos chain ecosystem. Join them as they discuss: Crypto as a viable solution to modern banking The relationships between centraliz…
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Mint this episode as NFT https://tinyurl.com/3jes7ukw How fast can your web3 ideas be turned into actual working MVPs? We sit down with Seun Payne from Aya to delve into Velocity8, a service offered by Aya that builds and ships ideas into MVPs in 8 weeks. For Sponsorship - [email protected] Follow Sovereign Frontier X - https://x.co…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Rebecca Liao, co-founder and CEO of Saga, a protocol designed to simplify blockchain integration for game developers. Join them as they discuss: The challenges of onboarding Web2 indie game developers into the Web3 space How Saga's 'Indie Summer' initiative supports gam…
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This conversation dives deep into Magma, a coordination point for exceptional builders driving Africa’s financial and trust infrastructures onchain. Founders and developers come to support one another, receive world class mentorship, and build better DApps and protocols. For Sponsorship - [email protected] Follow Sovereign Frontier …
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In this episode, we dive into the wild world of Web3 marketing. Ever wonder how marketing in the decentralized space stacks up against the traditional methods? Or why some projects hit it big while others flop? We’re breaking it all down. Key Questions: What’s the real difference between Web3 marketing and the old-school way of doing things? Why ar…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Laurent Benayoun, CEO of Acheron Trading, a financial services company that builds liquid markets for digital assets. Join them as they discuss: The rise of crypto-backed ETFs and their impact on the market The shift from trading pairs against Bitcoin to stablecoins lik…
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Mint and own this episode on the blockchain here https://tinyurl.com/ku8rxkuu This episodes features Kevin Chibuoyim, co-founder of BlockchainUNN to explore web3 education in Africa. Are we doing web3 education right? What are the big problems x solutions? For Sponsorship - [email protected] Follow Sovereign Frontier X - https://x.c…
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The founder of Realm of Ra(ROR), an on-chain gaming studio with the aim to spread Africa culture on Starknet through gaming joins us to explore web3 gaming, Starknet and Mancala - a count-and-capture board game with an ancient heritage that he and his team are working on deploying on Starknet. We explore the following and more in this episode. What…
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Mint and own this episode onchain⬇️ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x93811aa406023e87d96a253ca2c2c47b4884074c/4 In this episode, Lawal drops insights and thoughts on various important concepts and practical ideas crucial to unlocking an onchain economy in Africa. For Sponsorship - [email protected] Follow Sovereign Frontier X - https:…
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Mint and own this episode as NFT here : https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x93811aa406023e87d96a253ca2c2c47b4884074c/3 🎯 Bringing dev-focused pop-up cities to the world 🎯 Bringing permisionlessness pop-up cities to the world 🎯Bringing cypherpunk pop-up cities to the world This is what theMu wants to achieve. We sit down with Sun and Vee to delve deep in…
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Eric Annan shares his background, detailing his personal and professional journey that led to the co-founding of Aya. He discusses the evolution of Aya from its inception to its current state, highlighting key milestones and pivotal moments. He also reflects on his past experiences and early career challenges that have shaped his entrepreneurial mi…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Pavel Sinelnikov, Developer Relations Lead at ZKM, a network focusing on zero-knowledge virtual machines (ZKVM) for universal settlement. Join them as they: Discuss lessons learned in Ethereum growth and applying them to Bitcoin Analyze the importance of Proof of Work (…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Meg Lister, General Manager of Grants Labs at Gitcoin, a platform that has helped to disseminate grant funding to more than 4,000 projects within the blockchain and cryptocurrency sectors. Join them as they: Discuss the catalytic effect of transparent funding mechanisms…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Alejo Pinto, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer at Pontem, a product studio working toward global financial inclusion powered by blockchains. Join them as they: Discuss Pontem’s contribution to the evolving DeFi landscape Unpack the suite of products under the Pontem N…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Caspar Sauter, the Co-founder of Quantena and D8X Exchange, a perpetual futures decentralized exchange. Join them as they: Explore D8X’s mission and the importance of building decentralized financial machines Discuss why D8X chose to focus on perpetual futures Delve int…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Rowland Graus, Director of Product Management & Developer Relations at Agoric, a smart contract platform designed to enhance the usability of blockchain networks for end users. Join them as they: Explore Agoric's approach to blockchain and smart contracts Discuss Agoric…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Jon Trask, CEO and founder of Dimitra, an AgTech company that leverages cutting-edge technology to help farmers increase yields, reduce expenses, and mitigate risks. Join them as they: Unpack how Dimitra leverages blockchain to empower farmers Discuss the various techno…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Andreas Brekken, the Founder of SideShift, a non-custodial exchange dedicated to seamless onboarding and user privacy. Join them as they: Unpack the evolution of exchanges in the past 10 years Discuss Andreas’ foray into crypto and building his first exchange Delve into…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Philippe Schommers, the Head of Infrastructure at Gnosis, an entity that has been at the forefront of building decentralized infrastructure for the Ethereum ecosystem since its inception in 2015. Join them as they: Unpack the history of the Gnosis ecosystem and its vari…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski speaks with Peyman Momeni, CEO and Co-Founder of Fairblock, to uncover the vital role privacy plays in decentralized systems. They delve into the urgent need for privacy solutions to combat the negative perceptions surrounding this technology. Peyman shares his unique perspective sh…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Sunny Lu, Co-Founder and CEO of VeChain Foundation, the Foundation tasked with growing VeChainThor, an enterprise-grade L1 public blockchain platform, aiming to spearhead a digital revolution through sustainable and highly scalable smart contract technologies. Join them…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Parker McCurley, Co-Founder and CEO of DecentDAO, a builder collective creating DAO, DeFi, and other Web3 toolings and services for institutional and retail clients. Join them as they: Discuss lessons learned from navigating multiple crypto cycles Examine the inner work…
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Today's guests are Al Mithani and Chris Biele, aka Links and NFThinker. They're here to share some exciting news about Bankless Card, a core project at BanklessDAO. BanklessCard https://banklesscard.xyz/ NounsDAO https://nns.xyz/ Timestamps 02:20 Ship status and initial feature set 05:40 So you’re partnering with a… bank? 08:50 Rewards and opportun…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Nathan Windsor, the CEO and Co-Founder of Landslide Network, an IBC-enabled Avalanche subnet that allows any Cosmos-based dApp to run natively on the Avalanche network. Join them as they: Unpack the differences between Avalanche and Cosmos at a protocol level Shine a li…
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In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Matt Bell, the CEO and Co-Founder of Turbofish, a team working on Nomic, a layer one blockchain that offers a decentralized, non-custodial Bitcoin bridge into the Cosmos ecosystem. Join them as they: Shine a light on Nomic’s mission Weigh in on the issue with Bitcoin’s …
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