DCD Zero Downtime is DCD's editorially-led podcast. In each episode, our editorial team will be talking with leading members of the data center and digital infrastructure community, delving deeper into the future of the industry and its major challenges.
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Bonus episode - Understanding AWS' chip strategy with Gadi Hutt
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47:49In a compute world dominated by Nvidia, hyperscalers are looking to build out their own semiconductor infrastructure capable of training and inference workloads at scale. We chat to AWS product manager Gadi Hutt about his company's approach, based on its 2016 Annapurna Labs acquisition. We talk about Trainium and Inferentia, how the company balance…
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Episode 77 - Are utilities overstating data center demand growth with Cathy Kunkel, Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis
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28:45In this episode, we talk to Cathy Kunkel, energy consultant at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis, about a recent report she authored on the increased buildout of gas power plants and pipelines in the Southeast US, driven by the projected growth of data center load.
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Episode 76 - Start(ing) again in Portugal with Omer Wilson, Start Campus
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35:47The start campus data center project has big dreams, aiming to build a 1.2GW data center campus in Sines, Portugal. While things have progressed on the campus, its entanglement in the corruption probe that saw the Prime Minister resign and led to the arrest of several of Start’s executives including then CEO Afonso Salema caused some hiccups. With …
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Episode 75 - Data centers under the hammer with Julian Hennessy, Telehouse Europe
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25:21In this episode, we talk to Julian Hennessy, projects director at Telehouse Europe, about the company’s most recent project in the London Docklands area. The Telehouse South facility was entirely retrofitted with a mission to strive for better sustainability. Julian explains the challenges and the benefits of retrofitting in the London data center …
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Episode 74 - Spreading awareness of the data center industry with Carrie Goetz
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37:40Carrie Goetz is the definition of an industry veteran. With decades of experience, she now works as a “fractional CTO” via her StrategITcom company, but over the years she has done a lot of outreach work to bring in new faces to the sector, not to mention the several books she has written. Tune in to hear about Goetz’ career so far, and her perspec…
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Bonus Episode - The need for basic science research, with Vint Cerf
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29:13US scientific research institutions are under attack. DOGE-led cuts to National Science Foundation funding, caps on indirect research costs, firings at the National Institutes of Health, layoffs at the Department of Energy, and more will profoundly weaken the US' scientific standing. But what does this mean for the country, for companies, and for t…
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Episode 73 - Understanding Stargate's Masayoshi Son, with Lionel Barber
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48:45From visionary bets in Yahoo, Alibaba, and Arm, to disastrous gambles on WeWork and Vision Funds, SoftBank's Masayoshi Son has defied both logic and expectations. Self-styled as a modern Genghis Khan, the once richest man in the world has rolled the dice yet again, plowing money into OpenAI and Stargate. What can we learn from his past? We talk to …
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Episode 72 - Subsea cable resilience, security, and redundancy with Steve Roberts, Exa Infrastructure
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29:05This episode with Steve Roberts from Exa Infrastructure discusses the resilience, security, and redundancy of today’s subsea cables, particularly in the face of adversities such as wars and natural disasters. Join us to discuss who should be investing, how the cable landscape is set to change in the coming years, and all things subsea.…
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Episode 71 - AI in Australia with Ben Crowe, Vertiv
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22:29Australia is seeing its data center market grow rapidly. In this episode, we talk to Vertiv’s Ben Crowe about the trends they are seeing across the country, the impact that AI is having on the data center sector, and the role that the government can play in supporting the industry.
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DCD Bali Bonus: Damon Lim, datacenterHawk
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22:37Rounding out our Bali event bonus content, we chat to Damon Lim, regional director for Asia Pacific at datacenterHawk
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DCD Bali Bonus: Sumit Mukhija, STT GDC India
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25:08At our Bali event, we spoke to Sumit Mukhija, at the time the CEO of ST Telemedia Global Data Centres India
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DCD Bali Bonus: Darren Webb, Evolution Data Centers
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12:20At our Bali event, we spoke to Darren Webb, co-founder and CEO of SE Asian market-focused Evolution Data Centers
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At our Bali 2024 event, we sit down with James Murphy, managing director, APAC, at DC Byte
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At our Bali event, we chat to Paul Dwyer, Head of Data Centres at LOGOS Group
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Episode 70 - Using CFD to the max with Gordon Johnson, Subzero Engineering
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30:50Computational Fluid Dynamics has a very important role to play in data centers, but how does it work? In this episode, we break down CFD with Subzero Engineering’s Gordon Johnson - the factors that need to be considered, its role in the data center, and the science behind it.
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Episode 69 - Diamonds are for semiconductors with Diamond Quanta CEO and founder Adam Khan
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33:06While silicon is still the semiconductor king, alternative chip materials are increasingly being sought in order to find their successor and address some of the biggest challenges facing the chips of today. In today’s episode of Zero Downtime, CEO and founder of Diamond Quanta, Adam Khan, discusses the benefits of diamond semiconductor technology, …
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Episode 68 - How cryogenic CMOS could solve the AI energy challenge, with Synopsys' Jamil Kawa and William Ruby
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42:08Earlier this year, Synopsys' R&D team developed a new model that allows design teams to create and test circuits at cryogenic temperatures. In this episode, Jamil Kawa and William Ruby from Synopsys talk about the cryogenic CMOS (complementary metal-oxide-semiconductors) research project and how it could support the development of low-power chips t…
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Episode 67 - Adapting to change, with Mark Kidd, Iron Mountain
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30:36Iron Mountain was originally founded by a mushroom farmer in the 1950s. However, in the pivot of the century, the company launched a paper records storage service using the very mine that once housed mushrooms As the world around them digitized, Iron Mountain had to adapt to change and eventually became the data center company we know today. Howeve…
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Episode 66 - Making a mark on India, with Surajit Chatterjee, CapitaLand Investment
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32:19India’s data center industry is rapidly growing, and companies are taking notice. Singapore-based CapitaLand Investment is currently developing major data centers throughout the country in Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, and Bangalore. While these developments are running smoothly, building large data center campuses in any location is never simple. We…
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Episode 65 - Connecting the land, the sea, and AI, with Gil Santaliz, CEO of NJFX
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28:34When Gil Santaliz first founded NJFX, he saw an opportunity to create an environment where data centers and cable landing stations could co-exist on the same campus. But even he could not predict how the emergence of AI and Edge technology has changed and developed conventional cable landing stations for the better. We talk to NJFX about the histor…
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Episode 64 - Iceotope's David Craig on retirement and life after data centers
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53:45Iceotope's David Craig returns to DCD Zero Downtime as he prepares to hand in his badge and gun. We talk what's next for Craig, and how he has seen the industry change and mature during his lengthy run.
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Episode 63 - Growing the workforce with Nabeel Mahmood, Nomad Futurist
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35:04We are all acutely aware that the data center industry has an aging, and thus thinning, workforce. But what can we do about it? In this episode, we talk to Nabeel Mahmood, managing director of Nomad Futurist - a non-profit dedicated to increasing awareness about the world of digital infrastructure - about how we can bring more people into the indus…
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Episode 62 - Using data center heat to grow algae with Linda Lescuyer, Data4
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30:35Data center operators are getting serious about waste heat and, more specifically, what to do with it. While the solution for many is to pump it back into nearby district heating systems, other companies are getting more creative and using warmth from servers to heat aquafarms and greenhouses. European operator Data4 has joined a project which aims…
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Episode 61 - Data centers down under with David Hirst, Macquarie Data Centres
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26:53Data center markets vary wildly by location, and in this episode we head "down under" to the wonderful land of Australia. With the AI boom in full across the globe, Australia is no different and experiencing increased demand. We talk to David Hirst, who heads up Australia's Macquarie Data Centers, about the trends he is seeing in the country, how M…
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Episode 60 - Verizon on preparing its network for natural disasters, with Mark Paff and Cory Davis
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38:30During a natural disaster, networks often go down. This can massively impact rescue missions in some cases. The importance of network operators and the role they play in responding to unpredictable moments is something that should be highlighted. We spoke to Verizon to see how it prepares its response to hurricanes and tornados, and find out the le…
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Episode 59 - Entering the cloud market as a new player, with Cory Hawkvelt, CTO of NexGen Cloud
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35:03With the cloud market already over-saturated, it is hard to imagine how a new company can make its mark. NexGen Cloud is seeking to do just that, with plans to build a sustainable cloud specializing in HPC and GPU infrastructure called "super cloud." We talk about how NexGen is going to achieve this, the steps taken thus far and why the company thi…
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Episode 58 - Smarter energy and the future of Ireland’s power grid with Michael Phelan, GridBeyond
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26:25Sourcing adequate amounts of power to run new facilities is a problem that keeps even the most seasoned data center operators awake at night. Many are looking at new technologies such as battery storage to help meet their power demands, but ensuring these assets operate efficiently can be a challenge. Dublin-based GridBeyond thinks it can help by p…
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Episode 57 - Precision cooling and political optimism, with David Craig, Iceotope
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43:42With AI dramatically driving up density, data center cooling is getting much more interesting. Iceotope is one of the companies exploring the most efficient and sustainable way to cool down data centers - and their solution is precision cooling. On the face of it, precision cooling resembles immersion cooling - viscous liquid? Check. Bathtub-like c…
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Episode 56 - Mushroom recycling with Joanne Rodriguez, Mycocycle
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33:42Mushrooms can be used to build more than just toad-stools. In this episode, Joanne Rodriguez, CEO at Mycocycle, talks about using mycelium to break down data center construction waste and make new construction materials. Listen in to this fung-guide to the future of waste management.
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Episode 55 - The half-life of nuclear data centers with Chris Lohse, Idaho National Laboratory
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44:52Nuclear power may have its detractors, but amid a growing capacity crunch data center operators are becoming increasingly interested in whether atoms can provide the electrons needed to power tomorrow's high-density facilities. In this episode, Chris Lohse of the Idaho National Laboratory, talks about the recent innovations around nuclear power, th…
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Episode 54 - Industry-wide sustainability with John Booth, Carbon3IT
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1:00:34Sustainability needs to be applied at all levels of the data center industry, and we are not doing enough, says John Booth of Carbon3IT. In this episode of Zero Downtime, we sit down with sustainability consultant John Booth to talk about how he got where he is in his career, and the fundamental sustainability issues that he is seeing in the data c…
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Episode 53 - The UK data center market with Luisa Cardani, TechUK
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35:52Bringing the L to FLAP-D, the UK has a prominent data center market. But like all other tier-one markets, London is struggling with space and power capacity. Because of this, the UK's data center industry will have to diversify, all while meeting increasingly regimented regulations. In this episode, we talk to trade association TechUK's Luisa Carda…
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Episode 52 - Why Oxide rebuilt the rack from scratch
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1:04:15Oxide Computer has been rebuilding the rack. In this podcast, CTO Bryan Cantrill tells us why. The data center industry has been building its own infrastructure for years, with the wrong components. Servers weren't designed to be operated in data centers, and the 1U rack unit is the wrong size, because of simple science. Part of the success of the …
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Episode 51 - Make way for bigger hard drives with B S Teh, CCO of Seagate
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28:36Think hard drives have hit their storage limits, and should be replaced by solid-state units? You could be wrong. Hard drives have been holding our data for nearly 70 years since IBM created the 350, which stored something like 4 Mbyte on dozens of spinning disks in a unit the size of a washing machine. Today's devices are orders of magnitude bette…
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Episode 50 - The fundamentals of quantum computing with Yuval Boger, QuEra
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29:01In this episode of Zero Downtime, we break down the fundamentals of quantum computing - the different approaches out there, the challenges to bringing it into a widespread commercial reality, and the potential use cases that quantum may help with. To help divulge this, we speak to QuEra's Yuval Boger who shares a little about the company's experien…
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Episode 49 - How CDNs quietly took over the Internet, with Mark de Jong, CDN Alliance
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39:4525 years ago, the first content delivery networks (CDNs) emerged, to solve a specific problem - how to make web pages load faster. More than two decades later, 72 percent of Internet content is delivered through CDNs. But the companies involved are still almost invisible - until something goes wrong. In 2021, in a series of outages, large numbers o…
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Episode 48 - How to face up to regulations, with Venessa Moffat, EkkoSense
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31:25Europe has an Energy Efficiency Directive, Germany has an Energy Efficiency Act, and operators there can be fined for inefficiency. Meanwhile, Amsterdam has declared war on sleeping servers, and set limits on where facilities can be built. Across Europe, in response to congested electric grids and shortages of land, local governments are stepping i…
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Episode 47 - Hydrogen data centers get real, with Yuval Bachar, ECL
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37:29At the start of 2023, Yuval Bachar told us about his latest project - to build off-grid, hydrogen-powered data centers. As 2023 came to an end, he was back to tell us he'd done it. He's got 1MW of capacity fed by hydrogen in Mountain View California, and he's telling potential customers he can build the same thing anywhere you can get hydrogen ship…
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Episode 46 - Telecoms in troubling times with Ineke Botter
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54:23Ever wonder what it would be like to be a CEO at a telecom company in a country that is at war? That’s been the reality on a couple of occasions for Ineke Botter, who has headed telecom companies in Kosovo and Lebanon. Her career has taken across Europe and beyond, spanning more than 30 years. She’s even worked in the data center industry too. List…
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Episode 45 - Construction and resilience amid power instability with Neal Kalita, NTT GDC
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47:00The European data center market has a forecasted take-up of 440MW for 2023. But within the context of erratic power availability, moratoriums, and the need to move to renewable energy, the FLAP-D markets are facing several challenges. In this episode we talk to Neal Kalita about the obstacles facing those looking to build in Europe, and what the fu…
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Episode 44 - Data centers going nuclear, with Tony Grayson, Compass Datacenters
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54:54Data centers need to be more sustainable, but finding consistent and powerful energy resources can be a challenge. Increasingly, we are seeing nuclear entering the conversation, in the form of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs). But these aren't without their own controversies. In this episode, we talk with Compass Datacenters' Tony Grayson to discuss t…
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Episode 43 - Energy use and AI with Alex de Vries, Digiconomist
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54:18Artificial intelligence could grow from almost nothing to using half a percent of the world's electrical power within five years, according to Alex de Vries of Digiconomist. That's a crazy rate of growth, but it's not unprecedented. Bitcoin followed almost exactly the same trajectory, expanding from nothing to a sector whose energy use is comparabl…
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Episode 42 - The irrepressible Bill Kleyman
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58:34We talk to Bill Kleyman, now at machine learning company Neu.ro, about his lengthy data center career. How did he get into the sector, what did he learn at Switch, and how does he balance life and travel? Tune in to find out.
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Episode 41 - Do data centers truly bring economic benefits to their location? With Max Schulze, SDIA
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31:21Data centers have outgrown their anonymity. They are large enough consumers of energy and space, that they have to enter the political landscape and justify their existence. But how do we know if a data really brings benefits to its location? In some places (like London), it appears that they soak up grid connection capacity and block housing proje…
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Episode 40 - Plenty of submarine cables in the sea with Elena Badiola, Exa Infrastructure
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37:27Ever wondered about the practical challenges of connecting our continents? In this podcast episode, we talk with Exa Infrastructure's Elena Badiola about the process of getting subsea cables underwater: from environmental surveys to climate change, to funding challenges. Elena also shares her experience of living on a cable ship for five weeks afte…
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Episode 39 - How will we start to use hydrogen? With Mark Monroe
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33:35In 2022, Mark Monroe's podcast about hydrogen was one of our most popular podcasts ever. At Microsoft, Mark had just made a prototype hydrogen fuel cell UPS system that could potentially replace diesel generators to provide low-carbon backup power at data centers. One year on, he's back for some more detail. A hydrogen economy will need a distribut…
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Episode 38 - ICT Environmentalism and the Sustainability Game, with Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski
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31:53If you want to make infrastructure sustainable, you need to be very careful what words you use. That's what Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski found, through their involvement in a project to make subsea cables sustainable. Words like "sustainability" and "climate neutral" can mean different things, depending on who is talking. And if what you …
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Episode 37 - Actions speak louder than code with Anne Currie, Green Software Foundation
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36:12If you think transitioning the tech sector to net zero is all about renewable energy and heat reuse, think again. Small changes in software could make entire data centers redundant - for a much bigger saving for the planet. Green Software is not just about more efficient code, says Anne Currie. Rewriting everything in C might cut energy use - but i…
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Episode 36 - Developing Internet protocols with Mirjam Kuhe, RIPE
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36:02How does the Internet keep running? A close-knit community of engineers has been developing and supporting the protocols that support it for more than forty years. During that time, new Internet services have emerged and scaled beyond recognition, and new features have been added, all without breaking the whole system. Mirjam Kuhne has been closely…
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Episode 35 - Taking inspiration from the GSMA in a push to drive the broadband industry with Martin Creaner
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36:56The global interests of the mobile industry are represented by the GSM Association (GSMA). This governing body was established in 1995 to support mobile operators using the GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) standard for cellular networks. It has become synonymous with the mobile industry and has driven it forward through industry progra…
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