This week Carl McColman is back on the show to talk to us about his journey with the Bible and what it means to read the Bible and engage with it's many stories like a Mystic. If your relationship with the Bible is tangled and complicated, this will help! SHOW NOTES: CARL MCCOLMAN: https://www.anamchara.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKcOq1leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicml…

This week we're talking to Brendan Barca who co-wrote a book with his wife called, "The Daily Buddhist" where over the course of 366 days they take us into the heart of Buddhism and how it can help us live a more happy, free, mindful life. Looking for a book to help you jumpstart your days with some fresh perspective? Go get it! SHOW NOTES: BRENDAN…

Hello friends, this is our SECOND check in - a time of flipping on the mic and catching up with you, sharing a bit of what's going on in my life. And I'd love to hear what's going on in yours, email me at [email protected] - I will answer! Here are some links, peace! ... MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Re…

This week we're talking to Thomas Oord and Chad Bahl about Amipotence (ami ... who?!) and the power of love in a divided world. This one is a game-changer - enjoy! SHOW NOTES: THOMAS OORD: https://thomasjayoord.com CHAD BAHL: https://www.facebook.com/chad.bahl AMIPOTENCE: https://www.amazon.com/Amipotence-Support-Criticism-Expansion-Application/dp/…

This week we are talking to Annie B. Jones about her amazing book, "Ordinary Time". We talk about staying put in a world that is always on the move - staying in friendship, staying true to ourselves, staying true to our faith, and so much more. If you're looking for some fresh perspective for your journey - Annie has you covered. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES:…

This week we are talking to John A. Powell about his book, "The Power of Bridging". We talk about unity and what it looks like to create a world (in these very divisive times!) where everyone belongs. This one will challenge you and (hopefully!) inspire you. Enjoy, and much love! SHOW NOTES: JOHN A. POWELL: https://www.johnapowell.org THE POWER OF …

This week we're talking to Amie McNee about her new book, "We Need Your Art". Everyone makes art, everyone is creative - and whatever creative juices you have bubbling up in you? The world needs it. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: AMIE MCNEE: https://www.amiemcnee.com WE NEED YOUR ART: https://www.amazon.com/We-Need-Your-Art-Something/dp/0593833007/ref=sr_1_1?c…

This week we are talking to Dr. Bruce Epperly about his journey with Jesus and his experience as a Pastor who is also Reiki Master. This is a good one - ENJOY! SHOW NOTES: BRUCE EPPERLY: https://www.drbruceepperly.com BRUCE'S BOOKS: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Bruce-G.-Epperly/author/B08CZZ94L9?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1&qid=1743529234&sr=8-1&isDramIn…

Friends, starting next week I'm tweaking something on the podcast that will lead to an experiment with these bi-monthly check ins. In this check in I talk about these check ins, Jordan's upcoming Summer break, art, Patreon, and an idea I'm kicking around for 2026. 2026? What? Yes, I think far in advance. HA! Check it out, tell me what you think. Mu…

This week we talk to Felicia Murrell about her book, "AND: The Restorative Power of Love in an Either/Or World" and let me tell you - this is the most important conversation I've EVER had on the podcast. 333 episodes in and this one stands above the others in terms of thougths that helped shape me, mold me, comfort me, challenge me, and make me fee…

This week we're talking to Blair Coyle. Blair is a singer and songwriter who creates beautiful music that is birthed out of his faith deconstruction / evolution. Today he talks to us about his music, his journey, and how his understanding of God and faith have evolved. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: BLAIR COYLE: https://www.blaircoylemusic.com APOSTASY ANTHEMS…

Is it possible to continue to find value in the Bible when you no longer see the Bible as the inerrant, perfect, almighty Word of God? Is it possible for the Bible to continue to speak into our lives post-Evangelicalism? Is it possible for the Bible to be MORE than you ever imagined it could be? This week we talk to Liz Charlotte Grant about her am…

This week we're talking to Larry Jordan about his book, "THE WAY" and wondering how the world might change if we allowed our beliefs to rest in our open palms instead of our closed fists ... if we asked more questions of those who see things differently instead of making more declarations about how we're right and they're wrong. This one will stret…

This week Neil Douglas-Klotz is back on the show to talk about his new book, "The Aramaic Jesus Book of Days". We talk about the person and teachings of Jesus and how when looked at through Jesus' native Aramaic tongue - it's IMPOSSIBLE to put it all into a nice, neat, systematic box. This is a good one - enjoy and go grab the book! SHOW NOTES: NEI…

This week we welcome Justin Scoggins who talks to us about his book, "Inking Christ" - we talk tattoos, art, creativity, and choosing to live creatively different during these divisive moments in our world. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JUSTIN SCOGGINS: https://www.eidochristos.com INKING CHRIST: https://www.amazon.com/Inking-Christ-Theological-Approach-Tatto…

This week we're talking to Dr. James Danaher about his newest book, "A Deeper Life". We talk about Jesus, the Gospel, and how the message of the Gospel isn't about becoming more righteous, but remembering and awakening to who we have always been. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JAMES DANAHER: https://www.amazon.com/stores/James-P.-Danaher/author/B001JS5LRY?ref=…

Welcome to season 8 of the show, we'll be talking today to Stuart Semple about art, creativity, the inner critic, and near death experiences. Enjoy. SHOW NOTES: STUART SEMPLE: https://stuartsemple.com MAKE ART OF DIE TRYING: https://www.amazon.com/Make-Art-Die-Trying-Changes-ebook/dp/B0CL5CGTQM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=35ZY2PG2KBLHT&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.i8CFPBw…

SHOW NOTES: MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV2WCSI&keywords=glenn+siepert&qid=1700157759&sprefix=glenn+%2Caps%2C399&sr=8-1 SUBSTACK: https://whatifproject.substack.com/ ART STUDIO: https://www.whatifproject.net/art SUPPORT THE SHOW: https://www.whatifproject.net/su…

This week we're talking to Bruce Pagano about his book, "Certainty Kills", where he explores the many ways that white knuckle certainty can hinder our spiritual growth. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: BRUCE PAGANO: https://www.brucepagano.com CERTAINTY KILLS: https://www.amazon.com/Certainty-Kills-Approaching-God-Honoring-Neighbor-loving-ebook/dp/B0CZKPK7VH/ref…

This week we're talking to my friend, Esther Goetz. Esther is a spiritual director, author, podcast host, and all around wonderful human. We talk about spirituality, deconstruction, our evolving thoughts about the Bible, and what it looks like to become your own authority. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ESTHER GOETZ: https://www.estherjoygoetz.com ESTHER'S BOO…

This week we're talking to Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer about his amazing book, "Rabbi Brian's High Unorthodox Gospel". We talk about moving from a place of deconstruction to a place of love and the permission we all have to listen to the still, quiet voice within. Need some hope this week? This one is for you! SHOW NOTES: RABBI BRIAN: https://rabbibr…

This week we're talking to Brandy Anderson about her book "Through the Veil". We talk about paranormal experiences, what happens when we die, reincarnation ... and so much more. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: BRANDY ANDERSON: https://brandyanderson.net/through-the-veil/ THROUGH THE VEIL: https://www.amazon.com/Through-Veil-Glimpse-into-Afterlife/dp/1964252032/…

This week we're talking to Ally Markotich about her amazing new book, "Soul Kindling". We talk art, creativity, the inner critic, and finding rest in our MotherGod. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ALLY MARKOTICH: https://www.soulkindling.com/ SOUL KINDLING: https://www.soulkindling.com MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationsh…

Brandon and I went to the same fundamentalist/Evangelical high school and today he's a lawyer who is doing amazing things in the world. This week we talk about faith deconstruction and how moving away from black and white thinking in regards to our faith can open our eyes to the nuances that can be found in every area of life - in particular within…

This week we're talking to our friend Darrell Epp. Darrell is a poet and came on to discuss his latest collection of poems and the ways that technology (and the creators of it!) are hijacking our minds and our days. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: DARRELL EPP: https://www.facebook.com/darrell.epp.5/ ALIEN PHONICS PRIMER: https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Phonics-Pri…

This week we're talking to Alexander John Shaia and Neil Douglas-Klotz about their courses with the Shift Network and the intersection of their work on Jesus The Christ and the way the many layers of his story have the power to change EVERYTHING. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: NEIL DOUGLAS-KLOTZ: https://abwoon.org - REVELATIONS OF THE ARAMAIC JESUS: https://w…

This week we're tallking to John Dominic Crossan about his new book, "Paul the Pharisee: A Vision Beyond the Violence of Civilization". We talk about the Apostle Paul, resurrection, metaphorical language, the importance of context ... and so much more. This is a good one, enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JOHN DOMINIC CROSSAN: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialJoh…

This week we're talking to John Philip Newell about some FRESH ways to think about the Gospel and what might change in our world if we were do return to an awareness of the Divine at the heart of ALL THINGS. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: JOHN PHILIP NEWELL: https://www.earthandsoul.org/john-philip-newell THE GREAT SEARCH: https://www.earthandsoul.org/thegreat…

Duncan Pile is back for another conversation stemming off his thoughts about his deconstruction journey. Today we're talking about mysticism and waking up to the reality that we've always been (and will always be) intimately connected to the Divine. DUNCAN PILE: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/duncanedwardpile/ MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emergin…

This week we're talking to Duncan Pile about deconstruction and his faith journey and wondering if perhaps we can deconstruct AND keep various parts of our faith/beliefs intact. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: DUNCAN PILE: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/duncanedwardpile/ MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD…

This week we're talking to Lauren Drake about numerology and what the numbers stemming from your birthday can reveal about you and your connection to the Divine. In this episode, she used my birthday as an example and absolutely BLEW MY MIND. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: LAUREN DRAKE: https://illuminatedlifehealing.com MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emergin…

This week we're talking to Amanda Udis-Kessler about her amazing book, "Abundant Lives: A Progressive Christian Ethic of Flourishing" and wonder about how the world might be different if we lived from an ethic that allowed everyone to flourish. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: AMANDA UDIS-KESSLER: https://amandaudiskessler.com ABUNDANT LIVES: https://amandaudisk…

This week we talk to Eric Reitan about deconstruciton, faith evolution, and the idea of truth having multiple layers as opposed to one narrow way of understanding. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: ERIC REITAN: https://www.instagram.com/reitaneric/ SO EDEN SANK TO GRIEF: https://www.amazon.com/Eden-Sank-Grief-Eric-Reitan-ebook/dp/B0CT98LR5V/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_…

New episode out with Drenda Thomas Richards who talks to us about her book, "DARE TO REMEMBER" and helps us tap into our true selves as we strip away our conditioned selves and become all that we have been created to be. This is a good one - ENJOY! SHOW NOTES: DRENDA THOMAS RICHARDS: https://www.drendathomasrichards.com DARE TO REMEMBER: https://ww…

This week we talk to Thomas Oord about the book he recently wrote with Tripp Fuller - "God After Deconstruction". Are you deconstructing? Rethinking your faith? Does it all feel like a giant mess in your head and heart? This convo will (I hope!) make you feel less alone. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: THOMAS OORD: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rl…

New episode with Herb Montgomery talking to us about faith evolution and how being friends with people who are different than us has the power to change ... everything. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: HERB MONTGOMERY: https://renewedheartministries.com FINDING JESUS: https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Jesus-Fundamentalist-Discovers-Socio-Political/dp/1957007893/ref…

New episode out with my friend, Sara Mastros. Sara is a magician, sorceress, and teacher of witchcraft who dropped by to talk to us about some pieces of Christian history that many of us (perhaps!) aren't aware of and challenge some of our assumptions regarding being followers of Jesus. This one stretched me in some really good ways and I'm sure it…

What if the Greek Gods/Goddesses have something to teach us? And what if instead of luring us away from our own spiritual path, they can help enhance it and make us stronger, more faithful followers of it? Check out this convo with George Lizos and be sure to pick up his book! 📚 SHOW NOTES: GEORGE LIZOS: https://georgelizos.com SECRETS OF GREEK MYS…

New episode up with my friend Seth Showalter - we talk about his experience in converstion therapy and how the anti-LGBTQ mindset that is prevalent in many churches is harming LGBTQ people. This one will stretch you in the best of ways - enjoy! 🏳️‍🌈 SHOW NOTES: SETH SHOWALTER: https://sethshowalter.com FINALLY FREE: https://sethshowalter.com/finall…

This week we're kicking off our PRIDE series with my friend Alec John Belle. As a member of the LGBTQ community who has had a unique spiritual journey, Alec brings an amazing perspective to the topics of religion, spirituality, and everyday life. Drop in on our convo and pick up his book, "EVERY SHADE OF ME" - enjoy! 🥳 SHOW NOTES: ALEC JOHN BELLE:h…

New episode with Edward Dodge who talks to us about his book, "A History of the Goddess". You're about to hear some things you likely never heard before - buckle up! SHOW NOTES: EDWARD DODGE: https://www.edwardtdodge.com/2021/10/23/a-history-of-the-goddess/ A HISTORY OF THE GODDESS: https://www.amazon.com/History-Goddess-Ice-Age-Bible/dp/1634243048…

New MID-WEEK RELEASE with my friend Josh Scott who talks to us about his new book, "CONTEXT: PUTTING SCRIPTURE IN ITS PLACE". We talk about inerrancy, evolving in our thoughts about the Bible, and how we don't need to read the Bible in order to be Christians. SHOW NOTES: JOSH SCOTT: https://www.joshscott.co CONTEXT: https://www.amazon.com/Context-P…

We made it - EPISODE 300! How exciting is this?! Joining us is Brian McLaren to talk about his NEW book, "Life After Doom" and reminisce with me about how we met and the early days of the What If Project. Pull up a chair and come celebrate with us! SHOW NOTES: BRIAN MCLAREN: https://brianmclaren.net/ LIFE AFTER DOOM: http://brianmclaren.net/LAD/ MY…

This week we're talking to Pastor Trey Furgerson about his book, "Theologizin' Bigger" where he helps us imagine a God whose love is greater than anything we could ever imagine. Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: TREY FERGUSON: https://www.pastortrey05.com THEOLOGIZIN' BIGGER: https://www.pastortrey05.com/book MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Storie…

In this episode of the What If Project, we down with theologian and author Dillon Naber Cruz to explore some ideas behind his amazing book, "Theological Musings." As the conversation unfolds, y’all are invited to deep dive into the intersection of theology, philosophy, and the human experience. At the heart of the discussion is Dillon’s unique pers…

NEW EPISODE up with Keith Giles talking to us about the Gospel of Thomas and his amazing book, ""The Quantum Sayings of Jesus". Enjoy! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: KEITH GILES: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/ THE QUANTUM SAYINGS OF JESUS: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CW1FXSF2?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_XQ6H0BP51J5WAYNT566C&utm_source=Patheos&utm_medium=pub…

NEW EPISODE up with Jon Turney talking to us about his book, "RJ the Astronaut" and the questions we have about ... everything. Enjoy! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: JON TURNEY: https://www.facebook.com/jdt1970 RJ THE ASTRONAUT: https://www.amazon.com/RJ-Astronaut-Jon-Turney/dp/1957007907/ref=sr_1_1?crid=125QTEAOCJNFM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.RZZdVYmdbIoNPkGuivDeUzrQS-B…

NEW EPISODE up with Dr. Jennifer Bird talking to us about marriage and the Bible - buckle up! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: JENNIFER BIRD: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/bio MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE: https://www.jennifergracebird.com/books MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV2WCSI…

New episode up with Brandon Andress talking to us about how fiction and various forms of art can be used to subversively speak to the issues of our day. Go get it! SHOW NOTES: BRANDON ANDRESS: https://www.brandonandress.com AND SO BY FIRE: https://www.amazon.com/So-Fire-Brandon-Andress/dp/1957007729/ref=sr_1_2?crid=19U4W38FQRP0X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._R…

This week Carl McColman joins us to talk about Christian Mysticism and Contemplative Spirituality - this is a GOOD ONE, ENJOY! ✌🏻❤️ SHOW NOTES: CARL MCCOLMAN: https://anamchara.com THE NEW BIG BOOK OF CHRISTIAN MYSTICISM: https://www.amazon.com/New-Book-Christian-Mysticism-Contemplative/dp/1506486843/ref=sr_1_1?crid=7M7LXS25DQRK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.K6…