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The 20 Minute Call Podcast is a podcast about the dreamers, boundary pushers, rebels and champions of the skydiving industry. Each episode is a narrative journey highlighted by the highs, lows, and luck that the skydiving industry delivers told by the most influential people within the sport. If you’ve ever dreamed of becoming a skydiver, opening a DZ or becoming the next world champion, check out The 20 Minute Call hosted by James La Barrie
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Risky Business

Patrick Gray

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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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What if you could get a no-nonsense look at security solutions in just 15 minutes? Security You Should Know, the latest podcast from the CISO Series, does just that. Hosted by Rich Stroffolino, each episode brings together one security vendor and two security leaders to break down a real-world problem and the solution trying to fix it. Expect straight answers on: How to explain the issue to your CEO What the solution actually does (and doesn’t do) How the pricing model works Then, our securi ...
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The Men of Action are Graham Self and Andrew Crupi a real life buddy cop movie odd couple. Graham’s the fresh faced recrute whos had very little experience with movies from the“Golden Age of Action” while Crupi’s the grizzled veteran who’s seen it all before and is getting too old for this... well you know the rest. The Men Of Actions mission, should they choose to accept it, is to watch action movies from the “Golden Age of Action” the 80’s and 90’s and discuss whether or not they deserve a ...
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Large language models are most useful to your business when they have access to your data. But these models also overshare by default, providing need-to-know information without sophisticated access controls. But organizations that try to limit the data accessed by an LLM risk undersharing within their organization, not giving the information users…
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In this week’s edition of Risky Business Dmitri Alperovitch and Adam Boileau join Patrick Gray to talk through the week’s news, including: EXCLUSIVE: A Scattered Spider-style crew is hijacking DNS MX entries and compromising enterprises within minutes The SVG format brings the all horrors of HTML+JS to image files, and attackers have noticed Brian …
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Helmut Cloth is a German engineer and entrepreneur whose groundbreaking contributions have forever changed skydiving safety. After taking up the sport in 1972, Helmut became an active participant in European relative work (RW) record attempts. But a tragic accident in 1986—when a close friend died without deplo…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: TeleMessage memory dumps show up on DDoSecrets Coinbase contractor bribed to hand over user data Telegram does seem to be actually cooperating with law enforcement Britain’s legal aid service gets 15 years worth of applicant data stolen Shocking no one, Ivanti …
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Unauthorized site access remains a significant security concern for organizations. But why does this issue persist, and how can it be effectively addressed? In this episode, Rob Allen, chief product officer at ThreatLocker, discusses the core functionality of ThreatLocker's Web Control solution: blocking access to unauthorized sites without meddlin…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Alethia Austin is a skydiving coach whose influence reaches far beyond the dropzone. Known for her calm presence, thoughtful leadership, and global impact, Alethia is the founder of LSD—Level, Slot, Dock—a sold-out series of skill camps hosted around the world. Her approach to coaching blends technical precisio…
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In this wholly sponsored Soap Box edition of the show, Patrick Gray chats with Adam Bateman and Luke Jennings from Push Security. Push has built an identity security platform that collects identity information and events from your users’ browsers. It can detect phish kits and shut down phishing attempts, protect SSO credentials, and find shadow/per…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Struggling to find that pesky passwords.xlsx in Sharepoint? Copilot has your back! The ransomware ecosystem is finding life a bit tough lately SAP Netweaver bug being used by Chinese APT crew Academics keep just keep finding CPU side-channel attacks And of cour…
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Linux is the backbone of critical infrastructure, yet it often flies under the radar when it comes to endpoint monitoring. From legacy servers to embedded systems, Linux devices are frequently unprotected, either due to operational risk, overlooked assets, or the false assumption that Linux is “secure by default.” In this episode, Craig Rowland, fo…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode My guest today has truly lived a life that transcends even the wildest dreams of a successful career in skydiving. With over 500 BASE jumps and 17,000 skydives, Jon Devore is a highly respected camera flyer, BASE jumper, wingsuiter, world champion free flyer, and stunt performer. His work has been featured in m…
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In this edition of the Wide World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray talks to SentinelOne’s Steve Stone and Alex Stamos about how foreign adversaries are targeting security vendors, including them. From North Korean IT workers to Chinese supply chain attacks, SentinelOne and its competitors are constantly fending off sophisticated hacking campaigns. Thi…
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For years, patch management has been treated as a solved problem—until reality strikes. Outdated applications, portable executables, patch conflicts, and shadow software leave organizations unknowingly exposed. The tools may exist, but the process often breaks down. In this episode, Rob Allen, chief product officer at ThreatLocker, discusses why th…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: White House’s off-brand Israeli Signal fork logs cleartext messages with hard coded creds while getting hacked (twice). Just … Wow. Ransomware attacks on UK retailers are linked, and Marks & Spencer has it extra bad After six years dormant, a Magento eCommerce …
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In this extended interview the Vice Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Senator Mark Warner, joins Risky Business host Patrick Gray to talk about: The latest developments in the Signalgate scandal Why America needs to be more aggressive in responding to Volt Typhoon How tariffs are affecting American alliances Why the Five Eyes al…
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Automated attacks are growing in speed and sophistication, far outpacing the human defenses most organizations rely on. Whether it’s credential stuffing, scraping, or denial-of-wallet attacks, bots can drain your resources before they even steal a cent. In this episode, Sam Crowther, founder of Kasada, discusses how their bot detection and mitigati…
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Managing privileged access across a sprawling IT environment remains one of cybersecurity’s toughest balancing acts. Admin privileges are often granted too broadly and retained for too long, opening dangerous pathways for lateral movement and ransomware. In this episode, Rob Allen, chief product officer at ThreatLocker, introduces their Elevation C…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: British retail stalwart Marks & Spencer gets cybered South Korean telco sets out to replace all its subscriber SIMs after (we assume) it lost the keymat It’s a good exploit week! Bugs in Apple Airplay, SAP webservers, Erlang SSH and CommVault backups Juice jack…
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Security operations centers (SOCs) are drowning in alerts, forcing analysts to waste time chasing down false positives while real threats slip through. The problem isn’t just efficiency—it’s burnout, missed signals, and limits on what security teams can reasonably triage. In this episode, Edward Wu, CEO and founder of Dropzone AI, explains how thei…
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In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast, three sponsors come along to pitch their products: LimaCharlie: A public cloud for SecOps Honeywell Cyber Insights: An OT security/discovery solution Fortra’s CobaltStrike and Outflank: Security tooling for red teamers This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode With over 28,000 skydives to his name, Ian Bobo is one of the most accomplished and versatile skydivers in the history of the sport. A true multi-discipline athlete, Ian is one of the rare individuals to win world championships in both Formation Skydiving and Canopy Piloting—a testament to his precision, adapta…
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Securing endpoints is a persistent challenge, especially in a hybrid working environment. The human factor is an unavoidable element with endpoint security, which means you have to be ready for a lot of unexpected behavior. Centrally managed policies for endpoints can only enhance security if they don’t compromise the flexibility the business needs…
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Customer security reviews often miss their mark, leaving organizations scrambling to compensate with extensive questionnaires that divert attention away from genuine risk management. The inconsistency of these processes and the lack of clear authority or visibility contribute to prolonged timelines and increased frustration. So, how can companies m…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Pancho Campo’s life story is one of global reach and bold reinvention. Born in Santiago, Chile, Pancho began his career in professional tennis, serving as the captain and manager of the Chilean Olympic Tennis Team at the 1992 Barcelona Olympic Games. He also held leadership roles in the Qatar Tennis and Squash …
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In this edition of Snake Oilers three vendors pitch host Patrick Gray on their tech: Pangea: Guardrails and security for AI agents and applications (https://pangea.cloud) Worried about your AI apps going rogue, being mean to your customers or even disclosing sensitive information? Pangea exists to address these risks. Fascinating stuff. Cosive: A t…
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We hear all the time that identity is the new perimeter. If we place that much importance on identity, then compromised credentials can give away the keys to the kingdom. In an environment where hybrid infrastructures introduce visibility challenges, the need for advanced monitoring techniques for identities becomes clear. In this episode, Paul Ngu…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray talks to former NSA Cybersecurity Director Rob Joyce about Donald Trump’s unprecedented, unwarranted and completely bonkers political persecution of Chris Krebs and his employer SentinelOne. They also talk through the week’s cybersecurity news, covering: Mitre’s stewardship of the CVE database gets its funding DOGE’…
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Managing application control amid increasing ransomware threats while not impeding business flow remains a challenge. Organizations need a layered defense to bolster their security posture without overinvesting in overlapping tooling. In this episode, Rob Allen, chief product officer at ThreatLocker, discusses how their deny-by-default approach to …
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In this podcast, Patrick Gray chats with SentinelOne’s Chris Krebs and Alex Stamos about the huge changes afoot in the United States government and what they mean for the threat environment. From the director of NSA being fired to massive job cuts at CISA and huge foreign policy shifts, tomorrow’s threat environment is going to be very different to…
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The tendency to focus on merely checking boxes to achieve compliance can lead to superficial solutions that may not effectively reduce operational risk. A strategic pivot towards ensuring compliance through holistic security measures is key; long-term, it demands less effort and provides more substantial protection. In this episode, Craig Unger, fo…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Oracle quietly cops to being hacked, but immediately pivots into pretending it didn’t matter NSA and CyberCom leaders fired for not being MAGA enough US Treasury had some dusty corners it hadn’t found China in yet, looked, found China in them …which is a great …
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SaaS visibility remains a mixed bag. Within company sanctioned tools we have visibility. But when it comes to visibility across tools, we struggle. And don't forget all of the SaaS apps your employees use that you don't know about. How do you start to address that SaaS visibility gap? In this episode, Russell Spitler, co-founder and CEO of Nudge Se…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we welcome Jay Stokes—a legendary figure in the skydiving world whose accomplishments have left a lasting mark on both military and civilian skydiving. Jay holds the Guinness World Record for the most parachute jumps in a 24-hour period, completing an incredible 640 jumps on September 8–9, 2006…
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Open source is a bedrock of modern enterprise software. But support for various components is all over the place. The ecosystem doesn't have the right incentives in place, leading to end-of-life security issues many organizations aren't ready to address. When community support for open-source components dries up over time, what is your recourse? In…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Yes, Oracle Health and Oracle Cloud did get hacked The fallout from Signalgate continues North Korean IT workers pivot to Europe Honeypot data suggests a storm is brewing for Palo Alto VPNs Canadian Anon gets arrested for hacking Texas GOP This week’s episode i…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, I’m joined by Greg “Miff” Smith—a true pioneer in Australian skydiving. With nearly five decades in the sport and more than 12,000 jumps to his name, Miff has been a driving force behind the growth and evolution of skydiving in South Australia and beyond. Since making his first jump in 1977, Gr…
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In this Soap Box edition of Risky Business host Patrick Gray talks to Knocknoc CEO Adam Pointon about how to easily rein in attack surface by glueing your single sign-on service to your network controls. Do your Palo Alto and Fortinet devices really need to be discoverable by ransomware crews? Does your file transfer appliance need to be open to th…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Yes, the Trump admin really did just add a journo to their Yemen-attack-planning Signal group The Github actions hack is smaller than we thought, but was targeting crypto Remote code exec in Kubernetes, ouch Oracle denies its cloud got owned, but that sure does…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we sit down with Chazi Rutz—an accomplished skydiver, coach, and competitor whose career is as dynamic as it is inspiring. Based in Eloy, Arizona, Chazi has completed over 10,700 jumps and earned silver and bronze medals at the USPA Nationals in freestyle and freeflying. She has contributed to …
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Github Actions supply chain attack loots keys and secrets from 23k projects Why a VC fund now owns a minority stake in Risky Business Media (!?!?) China doxes Taiwanese military hackers Microsoft thinks .lnk file whitespace trick isn’t worth patching but APTs s…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode In this episode, we welcome Chris Wagner—an accomplished skydiver, competitor, and leader in the sport. A former member of the U.S. Army Parachute Team, the Golden Knights, Chris has helped shape the evolution of Formation Skydiving, earning multiple gold medals at the World Skydiving Championships and setting …
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The velocity of innovation necessitates an agile approach to infrastructure management, which often leads to complexity and, consequently, vulnerabilities. Organizations are in a relentless race to identify and prioritize security gaps, but how can we effectively manage and mitigate these risks? In this episode, Jay Mar-Tang, field CISO at Pentera,…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news with special guest Rob Joyce, a Former Special Assistant to the US President and Director of Cybersecurity for NSA. They talk through: A realistic bluetooth-proximity phishing attack against Passkeys A very patient ransomware actor encrypts an entire enterprise …
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The sheer volume of security alerts and data being generated by various sources like firewalls, servers, and endpoint devices is daunting. The challenge lies in sifting through this vast amount of information to identify genuine threats without throwing manual effort at it. Traditional security logs merely tell us what happened but do not provide i…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Mike Gruwell is a skydiving entrepreneur, master rigger, and industry leader whose journey in the sport began with a single jump in 1995. What started as a passion quickly turned into a career, leading him to become an FAA Master Rigger, AFF Instructor, Tandem Instructor, and 4-way competitor. In 1999, he found…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Did the US decide to stop caring about Russian cyber, or not? Adam stans hard for North Korea’s massive ByBit crypto-theft Cellebrite firing Serbia is an example of the system working Starlink keeps scam compounds in Myanmar running Biggest DDoS botnet yet push…
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Understanding and mitigating insider risk has taken a front seat in organizational security strategies. What once was a niche concern, we’re seeing significant escalation in insider threats, particularly from nation-state actors, with insiders becoming victims of coercion or identity theft. In this episode, Mohan Koo, president & co-founder, DTEX S…
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Text Me Your Thoughts On This Episode Ashley Marquardt is a pilot, skydiver, and adventurer whose journey in aviation has been nothing short of remarkable. In just five years since earning her commercial pilot’s license, she went from flying a Cessna 172 at Skydive Cross Keys to piloting a Twin Otter at Skydive Dubai. Along the way, she served as t…
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The fragmentation and vast amount of data generated from enterprise tools create a convoluted landscape for cybersecurity professionals to navigate. This complexity is exacerbated in large companies with dynamic environments, where innovation and growth must be balanced with the ever-present need for security. In this episode, Piyush Sharrma, CEO a…
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What if you could get a no-nonsense look at security solutions in just 15 minutes? Security You Should Know, the latest podcast from the CISO Series, does just that. Hosted by Rich Stroffolino, each episode brings together one security vendor and two security leaders to break down a real-world problem and the solution trying to fix it. Expect strai…
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: North Korea pulls off a 1.5 billion dollar crypto heist Apple pulls Advanced Data Protection from the UK Black Basta ransomware gang’s internal chats leak Russians snoop on Signal with QR codes And Myanmar ships thousands of freed scam compound workers to Thail…
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