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Mia Malkova makes her first visit to the studio — and it gets weird in the best way. Comedians Peter Kim and Brent Weinbach pull up for a wild ride. We chat uncanny valley, AI stand-up specials, Rachel Zegler hate, spectrum love, Déjà vu, and the Norman Bates look. Check out --> Brent Weinbach - POPULAR CULTURE (2025) FULL SPECIAL Stop putting off …
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Fortune Feimster Talks Arnold, Will Ferrell, and Hula Hoops
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1:21:53Comedian Fortune Feimster joins us for the first time, and Bobo creates more wars. We chat star manifesting, lesbian soldiers, horny foods, Christian vibes, feverish gums, and the importance of “leave’n no tweet’n.” Start paying rent through Bilt and take advantage of your Neighborhood Benefits™ by going to www.joinbilt.com/belly. That’s www.joinbi…
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Being Gay At The Most Conservative Catholic Universities - Newman Guide - @leavelaughlove
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1:24:33In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Cade chats with Evelyn from Leave Laugh Love about the hidden world of Newman Guide colleges — those elite, ultra-conservative Catholic universities designed to "protect" young adults from the real world. Evelyn shares her experience attending Franciscan University, the cult-like enforcement of Catholic mor…
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Comedy legend George Lopez returns to the TigerBelly studio. Ernie meets Ernie. We talk Zaddies, tontós, Comedy Store lore, fat-boy tears, caboose philosophy, and that one time George met Santana. PRE-ORDER Special 500th Merch HERE Download the app and sign up with code TIGERBELLY. Take the featured slot for a spin, and explore thousands of others …
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Bobby's Dream Guest, Stardew Valley Creator Eric Barone (ConcernedApe)
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1:35:35Stardew Valley’s Eric Barone (ConcernedApe) Joins the Pod! Bobby goes full fanboy as he meets the mastermind behind Stardew Valley. It’s the ultimate crossover—The Slept King meets the Chill King. Cozy chaos, pixel dreams, and one very special BONUS BELLY. Pre-order the new TigerBelly 500 merch and collectibles HERE…
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Eucharistic Miracles Are FAKE - Actual Scientist Review "Scientific Evidence" of Catholic Miracle Claims w/ @Nontradicath
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1:16:38Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad I’m joined by Kevin for a deep dive into one of Catholicism’s most emotionally compelling and scientifically dubious claims: Eucharistic miracles. You’ve heard the stories—bread turning into heart tissue, bleeding hosts, and baffled scientists—but how w…
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We did it, 500 episodes! Enjoy this lovely MADtv reunion. Nosotros Papaya to you my friend. Exclusive 500th Episode Merch HERE Start your free online visit today at www.hims.com/belly Go to www.helixsleep.com/belly for 27% Off Sitewide + Free Bedding Bundle (Sheet Set and Mattress Protector) with any Luxe or Elite Mattress Order. Exclusive for list…
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Jordan Peterson is famous for inspiring many to take religion seriously — but for me, he had the opposite effect. In this video, I walk you through how reading Maps of Meaning turned me from a devout Catholic who almost became a priest into an atheist — and how Peterson’s ideas unexpectedly helped me accept myself as a gay man. We'll dive into beli…
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debunking EVERY catholic apologetic argument - ex-catholic apologists
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3:21:47On today's episode, we react to a 27 page document that reports to take people from agnosticism to catholicism. Myself and Colin (ex-traditional catholics) debunk this document while getting an outsider's perspective from our friend Greg (never been very religious). Let's see how catholic apologetics play out to some experienced debaters and a fres…
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Was Pope Francis Really an LGBT Ally? A Critical Analysis
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51:15In this critical follow-up to our earlier reflections on Pope Francis’s passing, three gay ex-Catholics break down the truth behind the progressive myth. While headlines hail him as a revolutionary, we ask: did anything actually change for queer Catholics? From catechism clauses to conversion therapy, brunch with trans folks to doctrinal silence—th…
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Pope Francis LGBTQ Legacy? What He Did (and Didn’t Do) for Us
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50:36Pope Francis has passed—and within hours, I sat down with Justin from Empty Chairs for an off-the-cuff emergency podcast. As a gay ex-Catholic and a gay current Catholic, we unpack Pope Francis’s complicated legacy on LGBTQ issues. Did he really change anything? Did he do enough? Or was it all just nice-sounding words with no lasting impact? We tal…
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What Does Pope Francis' Death Mean for LGBT Catholics?
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9:21Pope Francis has passed. And as someone who was once on the path to becoming a conservative Catholic priest—and now lives openly as a gay man—his death hits hard. In this video, I break down what Pope Francis actually did for LGBTQ Catholics. From his famous “Who am I to judge?” to his quiet yet revolutionary support of queer ministries, this pope …
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the STRANGEST anti-gay philosophical arguments I've ever heard - w/ @Kenapologeticscatholic
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1:23:16In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with Minh ( @Kenapologeticscatholic ) a Catholic apologist and street evangelist, for one of the most intense and philosophical debates I’ve had on the show. We dive deep into the question of homosexuality from Catholic, secular, and philosophical angles—covering everything from natur…
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Tim Dillon & "I’m a flake, I’m a liar”
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1:29:34Tim Dillon finally makes it to the studio and makes a reservation at the top-rated restaurant Shin Chon Son. We chat Crazy Rich Asians, Yogurtland, first kiss, incel movies, alien feet, spicy chili wonton soup, Joker 2. PrizePicks: Download the app today and use code BELLY to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup!” Visit www.blueche…
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Why I Treat Homophobic Christians Like Vegans
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13:37In today's episode, I unpack the mental model I use when Christians try to impose their beliefs—especially around queer rights. I compare their moral arguments to veganism (yes, really) to show how the more forcefully someone wants to control others, the more evidence they need to bring to the table. Faith alone doesn’t cut it. I walk through four …
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How to Leave Catholicism/High-Control Religion & Stay Happy w/ Evelyn from Leave Laugh Love
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1:11:37Leaving a fundamentalist or conservative form of Catholicism is more than just walking away from a church—it’s walking away from an entire worldview, identity, and sometimes your community. In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, Evelyn from the podcast Leave Laugh Love joins us for an honest, vulnerable, and occasionally funny conversation about…
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What Sends You to Hell in Catholicism? Apologist & Atheist Debate Catholic Teaching
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56:44In this episode of the Intrinsically Ordered Podcast, I sit down with guest Cameron Riecker, a prominent Catholic YouTuber, discuss the complexities and uncertainties within Catholic moral teaching. We dive deep into the distinctions between venial and mortal sins, the ambiguity in moral guidelines, and the impact of these ambiguities on the lives …
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101 Ways to Go To Hell in Catholicism (And Why It Makes No Sense)
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10:19In this episode, I discuss my journey from being a traditional Catholic to questioning and ultimately leaving the faith. I delve into the ambiguities and contradictions within Catholic teachings about sin and morality. Sharing personal stories, I highlight the lack of clarity on what actions might lead someone to hell. Using a Spider-Man meme analo…
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Actor Ben Schwartz (Sonic, Parks & Rec) stops by the studio & Jamie fangirls. Go to www.helixsleep.com/belly Spring Savings Event April 1, 2025 → April 30, 2025 20% Off Sitewide Draftkings -- Just sign up with code TIGERBELLY and wager a minimum of five dollars to receive FIVE HUNDRED CASINO SPINS ON A FEATURED GAME. Cancel your unwanted subscripti…
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Jiaoying Summers & the Betrayal of Bobby
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1:06:44Comedian Jiaoying Summers makes her 3rd appearance and Andrea Jin rises. We chat poop particles, green cards, "significant other", stolen beanies, & double China. Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to www.joinbilt.com/belly. That’s www.joinbilt.com/belly Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you: www.joinbilt.com/be…
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The False Promises of Traditional Catholicism - Inside Catholicism's Most Radical Sect
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41:37Join the community and join the group discussion on discord: https://www.patreon.com/c/gayextrad As someone who was once a zealous traditional Catholic—praying daily rosaries, attending Latin Mass, and even discerning monastic life—I've since deconverted and now reflect critically on the movement from personal experience. This isn’t a theological t…
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Christians, What if Being Gay Were a Choice?
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14:09For years, I begged God to make me straight. I read every book, watched every lecture, and tried every method of "healing." But what if being queer isn’t something to fix? What if it's something you could choose — not out of rebellion, but out of love, honesty, and freedom? In this deeply personal episode, I reflect on my journey from internalized …
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Catholicism & Gay Marriage Debate: Natural Law, Ethics, and Legal Considerations in a Modern Society
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1:36:52I got to sit down with a professional catholic apologist to have perhaps the most comprehensive discussion on natural law & gay marriage. We originally planned an hour discussion on a number of topics but found enough to get into just on this issue - and then went for almost two hours. I enjoyed having a thoughtful, long-form discussion on such an …
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Bob The Drag Queen & The Yellow Thumb
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1:34:05Bob The Drag Queen stops by learns about Bobby's lonely man in the desert. We chat Choo choo eyes, Korean alphabet, Harriett Tubman, Morse code soaking, Asian superheroes. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to www.zocdoc.com/belly to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Just sign up with code TIGERBELLY and wager a mini…
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Catholic Sacraments Make No Logical Sense: Placebo, Ritual, and Boundary Maintenance
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52:39Are Catholic sacraments truly channels of divine grace—or just powerful human rituals? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we question the supernatural claims behind sacraments like baptism and marriage. With guest Colin, we explore their historical roots, psychological impact, and striking similarities to rituals in other cultures. From a bo…
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Bert Kreischer & You May Say It’s Disturbing
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1:25:26Bert Kreischer makes his 6th appearance and Bobby sings a song. Visit www.bluechew.com or more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. Ladies and Gentlemen, legendary comedy icon, Bill Burr is now streaming on Hulu with his new Hularious stand-up special, Bill Burr: Drop Dead Years. Head to www.tu…
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Catholic Apologist vs Ex-Catholic Atheist: Evidence for God, Morality, and Catholic Infallibility
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1:22:50Does faith require evidence, or is experience enough? In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Noah from @Jesus_and_Whatnot to debate Catholicism, the role of suffering, religious disagreement, and whether faith can be rationally justified. We dive into the toughest questions: Does the Catholic Church have clear moral teachings, …
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Comedian Mo Amer joins us and Bobby pitches a new sitcom. We chat $250 jacket, Chinese wings, nose holes, Ramadan, editing points, and "Sheets & Giggles" More Ramsey Badawi here PrizePicks: Download the app today and use code BELLY to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup!” https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/BELLY Start earning poin…
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Big Jay Oakerson & The Founding Brothers
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1:23:53Comedian Big Jay Oakerson stops by the studio. More Shapel Lacey HERE That’s www.hims.com/belly for your personalized hair loss treatment options. The new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at www.robinhood.com/gold That’s www.helixsleep.com/belly…
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5 Things That Would Make Me Believe in God - Ex-Catholic Atheist On Divine Hiddenness & Interstellar
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15:38After years of grappling with this question, I finally have an answer—thanks to Interstellar. This film unknowingly lays out the six conditions that could actually convince me a higher intelligence exists. But even if that were true… would it lead me to religion? Join me as I break down the philosophy, science, and religious implications behind Int…
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Comedian Joe Gatto stops by and Bobby donates 10k for a plaque. We chat Tynawese, Asian encounters, Gatto pups, black rain frogs, Mexican cows, and Bobby's boss. For more Comedian Jason Cheny click here! Make life easier by getting harder and discover your options at www.bluechew.com! And we’ve got a special deal for our listeners: Try your first m…
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Steve Aoki joins us in the studio and brings gifts for Bobby. We chat Jiro's sushi, intense Warzone, Jules caked, Vegas-living, Bennihanna, & Jamie's gift to Steve. Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to www.zocdoc.com/belly to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by goi…
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I Debated Michael Knowles on Jubilee - Yes, Gay Marriage CAN Exist - DEBUNKING Bad Conservative Philosophy
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19:25In this video, I break down my debate with Michael Knowles on Jubilee about the topic of same-sex marriage, philosophy, and conservative ideology. We go deep into metaphysics, logic, and how anti-LGBT arguments are structured to sound airtight—but fall apart under scrutiny. Michael and I come from the same religious movement, and I used to believe …
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The WEIRD Reason The Catholic Church Wants To Control Your Sex Life - Trent Horn Debunked
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31:47Catholic apologist Trent Horn recently posted a video titled "The Sex Questions Almost No One Can Answer", where he attempts to justify Catholic sexual ethics using Natural Law philosophy. But are these arguments sound? Join my discord for $1/m: patreon.com/c/gayextrad As a former devout Catholic and apologist, I break down the flaws in this ideolo…
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Comedians Ari Shaffir & Adrienne Iapalucci join us. We chat Asian sameness, Maya Angelou quotes, dried squid, being free, Helen Keller bit, and 5-dollar pancake smells. Get 5 dollars off your next order at www.magicspoon.com/belly. Or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery store. That’s www.magicspoon.com/belly for five dollars o…
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Amir K & The Most Intimidating Man in Comedy
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1:22:56Comedian Amir K makes his 1st appearance. Check out the promos tab to tail any of our Super Sweat Milly winners Big Game lineups! If you tail a lineup that goes 3 for 3, you can win a split of $1 Million in promo funds! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/BELLY Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Mone…
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Finding Meaning Without God: Running A Thousand Miles, Secular Buddhism, Addiction, and Trauma
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1:34:57In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, I sit down with Jason—a long-time friend, ultramarathoner, and secular Buddhist—to explore life beyond dogma. We dive deep into questions of meaning, suffering, and personal transformation. Jason shares his journey from childhood trauma, addiction, and depression to healing, self-acceptance, and the liberat…
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Riley Reid is QUITTING to start Comedy
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1:39:57Riley Reid joins us for the 1st time and Jamie eats balut. We chat Ukrainian kids, bean sleeper, electro quartz seduction, Bobby Fleshlight, and $80 stripclub. Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to www.joinbilt.com/belly Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you: www.joinbilt.com/belly, to start earning points on yo…
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'just STOP being gay' - chastity speaker's desperate plea to end gay marriage (Jason Evert)
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10:55What if you're gay but don't want to be gay? Jason Evert has the perfect solution, just hate yourself. He gives us a 'third option' to homosexuality where you can hate yourself, but publicly. Someone please patent this man's genius methods and scientific tests of what marriage must include. But in all seriousness, Jason Evert is the Final Boss of c…
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Comedian Brad Williams makes his first appearance and Bobby refuses to talk about dwarves. We chat Snow White, Peter Dinklage, famous little people, candy corn, pocket Hercules, Legoland bully, and Pixie from Chucklebutt. Get 5 dollars off your next order at www.magicspoon.com/belly. Or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery stor…
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Can Gay Men Become Catholic Priests? Gay Ex-Catholics Explain Recent Italian Bishops' Document
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1:34:38Why are young catholics sent to conversion therapy? Does the Catholic Church discriminate against gay men? In today's episode, I tell my story of being rejected from becoming a monk for being gay - or as they like to say: experience same-sex attraction. My co-hosts Colin (raised FSSP) and Ben (discerned a vocation) help me explain where the church …
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'CHAIRS prove being gay is a SIN' - crazy pastor's terrible arguments (Father Mike Schmitz)
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12:25Father Mike Schmitz (celebrity catholic priest) uses chairs to demonstrate teleology, and then makes anti-gay arguments from Theology of the Body. This approach fails in so many ways, and I don't think chairs are our best proof of teleology. I (a gay ex-traditional catholic apologist) give my reaction to his wild takes on teleology. This is the tal…
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Debunking the Catholic Church's Anti-Contraception Philosophy
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30:50Let's dive deep into the Catholic Church's controversial teaching on contraception, its roots in outdated philosophies, and the societal impact of enforcing such dogma. From Humanae Vitae to the rise of "Theology of the Body," we'll critically examine how these doctrines shape attitudes toward birth control, women's rights, and personal autonomy. W…
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Howie Mandel & The Opposite of Cheers
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1:43:00Comedian and host Howie Mandel storms into Bobby's bedroom. We chat real magic, Germany's Got Hoarders, lockjaw, fetus eating, Mexican Buddy Hacket, and big feet huge vagina. Immediate relief for families in Altadena fires Get the Performance Package 5.0 Ultra today and experience a shave that is as smooth as you deserve. Get 20% off + free shippin…
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Former Sedevacantist Seminarian Kicked Out for Being Gay
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35:24In this episode of Intrinsically Ordered, we sit down with a former Sedevacantist seminarian who opens up about his journey into one of Catholicism's most radical branches, his time in seminary, and the personal struggles that led him to leave the church altogether. From exploring the allure of certainty in faith to confronting deep-seated identity…
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Catholic Church Doesn't Know What to Do With Gay People
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15:57The Catholic Church offers no solution for queer folks who follow its teachings, besides celibacy. There is no proven, approved way that a catholic can life their life following church teaching without getting in trouble with the church or laity. Nobody can agree on what to do except wait for heaven. 00:00 - Intro 00:25 - Background Documents 01:41…
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Gender Expression & Anglican Spirituality: A Trans Priest's Faith Journey
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35:37In this thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Barefooter, a minister in the Anglican tradition and a trans individual, to discuss their unique journey of faith and identity. From a childhood immersed in Protestant traditions to grappling with gender and sexuality, our guest explores the challenges of aligning personal truth with theological t…
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Comedian Adam Ray (Dr. Phil Live) makes his 3rd appearance! We talk Asian John McCain, siamese twins, APC jeans, Tarintino's laugh, and Yippee-Ki-Yay! Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to www.zocdoc.com/belly to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Download the app today and use code BELLY to get $50 instantly after yo…
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Brandon Robertson: Deconstructing Christianity & How to Joining the Queer Community
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42:52Join us as we dive deep with Brandon Robertson, a leading voice in progressive Christianity, to explore the intersection of faith, identity, and sexuality. From his journey out of evangelicalism to becoming a queer pastor and theologian, Brandon shares his challenges, insights, and the liberating message of his new book, Queer and Christian. Whethe…
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