Jared Holt and Michael Edison Hayden take a critical look at news, politics, and technology to better understand our modern social disorder. patreon.com/PostingThroughIt
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Welcome to the Vitals for Youth Ministry Podcast. Vitals for youth ministry is a biblical framework based out of Acts 2:42-46, developed by Lead The Generation that trains youth leaders to build a local church youth ministry focused on developing students into healthy disciples. In this podcast we will focus on the topics and issues most relevant to leadership in Youth Ministry. The Vitals for Youth Ministry Podcast is hosted by Eran Holt, founder of Lead The Generation & Caleb Leake, Youth ...
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Focusing on issues, not tweets, Joshua Holland talks politics and culture with newsmakers, journalists and academics.
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030: Did the 'Alt-Right' Win? feat. Hannah Gais
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1:14:30Hannah Gais is a researcher and journalist who covers far-right extremism. She joins the show to look back on the white nationalist “alt-right” movement, eight years after the deadly Unite the Right white supremacist gathering in Charlottesville, Virginia. While the movement today is a shadow of its former self, the ideology that drove it seems as …
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The Necessary Shift in Youth Ministry, Attractional vs. Missional Models, and Making Disciples That Last
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46:47Terry Parkman shares how youth ministry is fundamentally shifting from attractional to missional models, requiring leaders to focus on transforming students rather than merely entertaining them. • Youth ministry is at a tipping point where effective ministries will focus on outcomes (life transformation) rather than outputs (attendance numbers) • T…
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029: Should Anyone Debate the Far-Right? feat. Mehdi Hasan
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1:00:57Mehdi Hasan, a journalist renowned for confronting power directly and dismantling opponents in political debates, joined Posting Through It to reflect on his viral appearance on "Surrounded" — a YouTube debate show that recruited him to argue against 20 "far-right conservatives." Over nearly two hours, his opponents took turns sitting across from h…
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028: Jeffrey Epstein ain't going away!! feat. Anna Merlan
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58:16Anna Merlan is a senior reporter at Mother Jones who covers disinformation, technology, and extremism. She joined us to discuss the Trump Administration's efforts to address the "Epstein Files" controversy and why calming supporters' anger over this issue has proven particularly challenging. We also explored how right-wing media has sought to downp…
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Leaning Into the Mess, Releasing Your Grip, and How to Coach Young Leaders
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39:26Reggie Hill, Young Adults Pastor at Journey Church in Kenosha, Wisconsin, shares his expertise on leadership development in youth ministry and how to avoid becoming "the lid" to your own ministry. • Shifting from being the superhero who does everything to a coach who develops leaders • Creating ministry tracks that help students find their leadersh…
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027: Who the Hell is Dave Portnoy? feat. Robert Silverman
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2:06:21Dave Portnoy has leveraged his digital media empire — Barstool Sports — to amass so much political influence that there’s a term for it: "Barstool Conservatism." This episode retraces the story of Portnoy’s life and career to explain how he made millions combining sports entertainment, reactionary politics, and pizza reviews. It also reflects on Po…
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026: How to Fight Antisemitism in 2025 feat. Ben Lorber
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1:08:54Ben Lorber is a senior research analyst at Political Research Associates. He joined the show for a discussion about the pro-Israel groups cheapening the real antisemitism affecting Jewish people by doing things like pick fights against children’s entertainers like Ms. Rachel and Elmo. How do we keep our moral compass steady against those who seek t…
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The Discipline That No One Sees, Seasons of Stretching, & the Platform You Didn't Pray For
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48:16Ever notice how you can tell when someone has been with Jesus? There's something different about them—a presence, a peace, a perspective that stands out in our chaotic world. In this transformative episode of Vitals for Youth Ministry, National Youth Director for the Assemblies of God Austin Westlake reveals how consistent spiritual disciplines cre…
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025: Trump Has a Jeffrey Epstein Problem feat. Will Sommer
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1:02:23Will Sommer is a senior reporter at The Bulwark, where he authors the newsletter “False Flag.” A longtime chronicler of right-wing media, Will joins the show to discuss the fallout facing the Trump Administration as it backs off its promise to release the “Epstein Files.” After years of promising to unveil new information about one of the highest p…
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Leadership Pain, Personal Growth Plans, and a Lifestyle of Development
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52:19Micah Mac joins us to vulnerably share how a painful season of ministry—feeling inadequate, discouraged, and even depressed—became the catalyst for his most significant leadership growth. With remarkable transparency, Micah reveals the exact moment he discovered a framework for personal development that not only changed his ministry trajectory but …
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024: Why Does Patriot Front Still Exist? feat. Jeff Tischauser
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1:37:38Jeff Tischauser, an academic and researcher covering the “white power” movement, joins the show to talk about Patriot Front: a neofascist group known for it’s theatric flash demonstrations and plentiful propaganda. This episode walks through the early years of Patriot Front, scrutinizes its stated beliefs and objectives, sizes up what threat they a…
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023: How to Fight Fascism in 2025 feat. It's Going Down
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1:25:12Mike and Tom — two folks from the anarchist media collective It’s Going Down — joined the show for a conversation about translating the mass appeal of anti-Trump protests into meaningful acts of antifascism against a far-right extremist government. The crew looked back on antifascist organizing in recent decades, discussed ways that anyone can make…
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The Power of Daily Denial, Dying to Dreams, & Following Up Encounters with Action
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52:19Spiritual transformation begins with teaching students to deny themselves before they can truly follow Jesus. We've often emphasized the "follow" part without properly teaching the denial that must come first. • The importance of denying oneself as the foundation for spiritual transformation • How youth pastors often focus on attraction rather than…
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Mike and Jared say hello to the show’s new “Groyper” listeners then talk about Trump’s military parade, the murder of a Minnesota politician, media coverage of “No Kings” protests, Terry Moran’s exit from ABC News, and Democrats’ latest ploy to win new voters. Links: * Molly Ivins: The Fun’s in the Fight Like this episode? Share it with your friend…
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021: Who the Hell is Nick Fuentes? feat. Amanda Moore
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2:08:18Nicholas J. Fuentes is the most prolific white nationalist in America today, and he’s just 26 years old. The Chicagoland native’s nightly livestreams have earned him a cult-following of “Groypers” who have helped him push an entire generation of young Republicans toward racist and antisemitic ideologies. This episode traces notable moments in Fuent…
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019: State of the Unions feat. Kim Kelly
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1:17:22Kim Kelly, a labor journalist and author, joined to discuss how unions and other organized worker groups are faring in today’s hostile political landscape. Kim also discussed modern metal music and current-day anarchist organizing. Before that, Mike and Jared talked about MAGA supporters souring on FBI leaders Dan Bongino and Kash Patel as they try…
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Mike and Jared return from a week off to discuss Kanye West’s pro-Hitler song, a Minnesota woman’s big payday after calling a child the n-word, Trump Administration officials supporting racist conspiracy theories about “white genocide” in South Africa, and conservative personalities debating each other’s “woke-ness.” (Note: This episode contains ex…
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The Troubling Level of Biblical Literacy in Students, Bible Study in Small Groups & Praying Through Scripture
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53:30What if the most effective youth ministry strategy isn't flashy, innovative, or complicated—but actually stunningly simple? In this revealing conversation with 20-year youth ministry veteran Elisha Garcia of Grace Church in Houston, we uncover how returning to fundamental practices is transforming an entire generation's relationship with scripture.…
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017: Who the Hell is Candace Owens? feat. Madeline Peltz
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2:00:44Candace Owens soared to right-wing media superstardom within weeks of posting her first YouTube videos in 2017. This episode reviews Owens’ life and career arc, exploring how someone who was victimized by racial hatred in high school became one of the MAGA movement’s most prominent — and most divisive — political commentators. This episode features…
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016: How X Became 'Unusable for Normal Humans' feat. Hannah Gais & Steven Monacelli
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1:06:17Hannah Gais and Steven Monacelli join for a wide-ranging discussion about the state of Twitter (now called “X”) three years after Elon Musk first moved to purchase it. Since then, Musk has transformed the platform into a self-serving MAGA machine that is crowning a new generation of right-wing media royalty. Monacelli walks us through his reporting…
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Teddy Wilson, a journalist and researcher, joins to discuss developments within the Radical Right since Trump issued pardons and commutations for every one of his supporters involved in the 2021 riot at the US Capitol Building — including extremist movement members and supporters — at the start of his second term. Mike and Jared take a trip down me…
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014: Stephen Miller’s ‘Judicial Black Hole’ feat. Nikki McCann Ramírez
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1:10:00Nikki McCann Ramírez, a political reporter at Rolling Stone and co-host of the podcast “American Friction,” joined to discuss the inhumane prison system in El Salvador where the Trump administration has sent hundreds of migrants — effectively disappearing them from their families and denying them any methods of recourse. Before she joined, Mike and…
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013: Who the Hell is Tim Pool? feat. Robert Silverman
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2:27:21Tim Pool draws millions of viewers — and dollars — making political podcasts and commentary videos on YouTube. This episodes explores Pool’s evolution, from a self-proclaimed “activist” live-streaming Occupy Wall Street protests to one of today’s most-popular MAGA pundits. Along the way, we review Pool’s early media career, eventual drift into far-…
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012: This is Your Country on Social Media feat. Renée DiResta
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1:20:08Renée DiResta is one of the nation’s leading researchers of social media and the author of “Invisible Rulers : The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality”: a book about the ways social media platforms are used — and abused — to reshape the way we think and behave. Renée also shared her thoughts on the government’s hostility toward researchers who study …
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Leading Indicators, Dealing with Criticism, and Asking the Right Questions in Youth Ministry - Andy Lynn
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48:04Is your youth ministry measuring the right things? When attendance numbers become your primary success metric, you're setting yourself up for an emotional rollercoaster that's entirely out of your control. Andy Lynn, NextGen Director, New Jersey Ministry Network, brings 18 years of ministry experience to this paradigm-shifting conversation about wh…
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011: How Right-Wing Billionaires Broke Left-Wing Media feat. Eoin Higgins
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1:21:24Eoin Higgins is a historian and author who joined the show to discuss his book: “Owned: How Tech Billionaires on the Right Bought the Loudest Voices on the Left.” The gang talks in-depth about Glenn Greenwald and some of the other characters featured in Eoin’s book, right-wing billionaires’ attempts to undermine the news industry, and 90s techno. C…
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010: The ADL Goes MAGA feat. Vegas Tenold
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1:05:08The Anti-Defamation League has invited controversy for its leaders’ coziness with the Trump administration, and for its characterizations of student-led protests against Israel’s mass-killing of Palestinian civilians. Mike and Jared recap the events that got us here, the arrest of Mahmoud Khalil, and why they see the ADL’s political maneuvering as …
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Discipleship Beyond the Numbers - Tim Smith
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50:29What if the pathway to effective youth ministry isn't about chasing every good idea, but focusing on clear targets that produce lasting disciples? Tim Smith, Next Gen Director at Faith Church in South Carolina, reveals how establishing five core "vitals" transformed his approach to youth ministry after years of measuring success by numbers alone. D…
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009: Who the Hell is Jack Posobiec? feat. Hannah Gais
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2:14:04Jack Posobiec is one of the MAGA movement’s biggest social media stars, recently seen accompanying Pentagon officials on an overseas trip and posing for photos with Donald Trump and JD Vance in the Oval Office. This podcast explores Posobiec’s early political career and its overlaps with white supremacist movements, “Pizzagate” conspiracy theories,…
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008: What's 'Extreme’ in 2025? feat. J.M. Berger
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1:14:28J.M. Berger wrote the book on extremism — literally. The internationally renowned expert discussed methods of defining “extremism” and whether a mainstream political movement, like MAGA, could be accurately labeled that way. Read J.M. Berger’s work: * Extremism (The MIT Press Essential Knowledge series) * The Social Construction of Extremism (Disse…
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Max Read joins to talk about the online “Soy Right” and how the MAGA movement became everything it thought it hated about “soy boy” liberals. This episode pairs well with tofu. Programming note: We’ll be back on March 3. Check out Max Read’s newsletter, “Read Max.” This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers o…
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Ministry mistakes, Behavior Correction Traps & the Tension of Events vs Discipleship - Jared Berry
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51:49What if the transition from high school to college didn't have to mean a crisis of faith for our youth? Join us as we unpack the pivotal difference between heart transformation and mere behavior modification in youth ministry. With insights from Jared Berry, the Next-Gen Director for the New York Ministry Network of the Assemblies of God, you'll ga…
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006: A Liberal Hulk Hogan feat. Julia Carrie Wong
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1:01:08Julia Carrie Wong joined the show to discuss her recent exploring comparisons between today’s Democratic Party and Vichy France: a short-lived rump state that capitulated to the German Nazi party in WWII. You can read Julia’s article here: Capitulating to Trump: why people are warning about ‘Vichy’ America. In the wake of recent political events, t…
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005: Hawk Tuah's Got People feat. Matt Binder
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1:04:08Matt Binder joins the show to talk about meme coins and AI chatbot romance. The trio discuss about how politicians of all stripes have cozied up to a scam economy built on false hopes about technology. Check out Matt’s newsletter This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visi…
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Jared and Mike discuss a recent school shooting in Nashville, assess the vibe of Trump’s inauguration in DC, and debate investing their life savings in Trump’s cryptocurrency coin. They also review a column about a far-right DC inauguration party: “MAGA meme warriors take a victory lap with the Coronation Ball, celebrating the Trump-inspired cultur…
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003: Money, Media, MAGA feat. Parker Malloy
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59:08Parker Malloy joins Jared and Mike to talk about the state of legacy media in the United States as the second Trump administration takes office. The trio also identifies a few “Winners and Losers” of modern right-wing media. Check out Parker Malloy’s Substack Transition music is “Space Song” by Beach House. This is a public episode. If you would li…
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002: The President's Precedents feat. Kevin M. Kruse
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1:15:42Mike and Jared are joined by Kevin M. Kruse, a professor of history at Princeton University, to discuss historical parallels to the modern MAGA movement and whether today’s political perils really are as “unprecedented” as some people claim. They also revisit some of the first Trump era’s often-forgotten history. Check out Kevin Kruse’s Substack Tr…
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After more than a year away, Jared Holt returns to “Posting Through It” with a new co-host: Michael E. Hayden. The duo takes a brief look at the post-election political scene, explain why they brought the show back, and share their thoughts on the years ahead. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get…
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Jared Holt: Republicans have disinformation researchers in their crosshairs
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41:09This week, we are joined by Jared Holt, who researches domestic extremism at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, to talk about how Congressional Republicans are using their power and your tax dollars to harass and attempt to silence those who study and attempt to mitigate dangerous disinformation. Then Joshua Holland welcomes journalist Parker Mo…
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The devastating human toll of the neofascist attacks on LGBTQ+ people
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48:27On this week's show, we are joined by journalist Evan Urquhart, who is transgender, to talk about a topic that's rarely covered by the legacy media: The psychological and emotional toll that the right's relentless assault on the LGBTQ community's rights--and in many cases, on their very existence--takes on queer people. It is hard to be the target …
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Marcy Wheeler: 'We should expect a Jan. 6 case against Trump'
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56:44Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a look at how the GOP's performative approach to governing led them to stake out a position on the debt limit negotiations that will add hundreds of billions of dollars to federal budget deficits over the next decade. And then we're joined by legal analyst Marcy Wheeler to talk all about the historic f…
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No joke: Fox News says worrying about toxic air is woke
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44:54Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a look at a... very busy news week marked by some manifestations of the climate emergency that were impossible to ignore in much of the country. Then we'll speak with The Hill's Saul Elbein about how polluters, the gun industry and private prison companies--among others--are desperately trying to make …
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Digby on the debt deal | Target caves to bigots
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55:39Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a look at how Republicans always derail every effort to combat America's top terror threat: White supremacists and anti-government extremists. Then Heather "Digby" Parton joins us to talk about the deal Joe Biden cut with Speaker Kevin McCarthy to raise the country's borrowing limit and avert a catastr…
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David Pepper on how you can fight fascism in your own backyard
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40:52Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show by violating his no-presidential-punditry-before-Thanksgiving rule with a look at the shambolic rollout of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's (ill-fated?) presidential campaign on Twitter. Then we're joined by author and analyst David Pepper to talk about his new book, Saving Democracy: A User's Manual for Eve…
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Oliver Willis on John Durham's probe: 'This is a fail and we should enjoy it'
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58:43Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a look at why the GOP is incapable of pivoting away from their most unpopular positions. Then we're joined by Oliver Willis from The American Independent to talk about the press and the majestic flop of Special Counsel John Durham's much-hyped report detailing various imaginary grievances against the F…
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CNN's Trump town hall debacle portends reckless 2024 election coverage
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52:48Joshua Holland kicks off this week's show with a look at how Trump once again implicated himself in various criminal acts during his controversial CNN 'town hall' event. Then we are joined by John Stoehr, managing editor of The Editorial Board, to talk about some curious polling around the GOP's debt limit hostage-taking, containing autocratic red …
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Right-wing 'parents group' uses terror and harassment against its political foes
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46:46The benign-sounding "Moms for Liberty" has largely flown under the radar, in large part because political reporters tend to portray it as a grassroots movement of conservative parents fighting for "parental choice." The reality, explains Vice's David Gilbert, is that Moms for Liberty is a dark money-funded organization with close ties to the GOP th…
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Media downplaying debt ceiling hostage-taking as a 'juicy political standoff'
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1:02:12Cliff Schecter is joined by Dan Perry for the view on American politics from Israel. Then Matt Robison reflects on how traditional media have characterized debt ceiling negotiations as a "juice political standoff" instead of hostage-taking by Republicans. Cliff Schecter is a former ad writer for President Joe Biden, author of the bestselling book, …
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How Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene compete for QAnon followers
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32:23The QAnon movement that emerged with the rise of Trumpism has been marked by a great fluidity, morphing as events dictate. It draws on old antisemitic conspiracy theories and more recent moral panics and has inspired quite a bit of deadly violence, but its inherent goofiness made many people slow to recognize the dangers it poses. This week, we are…
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Six years and millions of downloads later, it’s now time for me to figure out what’s next. I don’t know what “next” means for me yet, but things will be quieter around here in the near future while I work through the details. Long live SH!TPOST. Long live Posting Through It. I'll talk to you again soon. Sign up for the free newsletter at postingthr…
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