Technology and democracy are at a crossroads. Technology can potentially empower people and make our democracies more responsive. Or technology can be used to manipulate and divide us. Welcome to Anchor Change. I’m Katie Harbath. In this weekly podcast, we’ll talk about and analyze the most fascinating headlines. We’ll make predictions about where things are going. And we’ll talk to experts about the challenges we face and how we might look for solutions. anchorchange.substack.com
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Welcome to "Speed and Scale," where I delve deep into the frontline battle against misinformation. I will highlight the tireless efforts of fact-checkers, experts, researchers, and Trust & Safety teams across digital platforms, showcasing the critical work to safeguard truth and accuracy in our information ecosystem.
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Beyond the Linear Career: Embracing a Portfolio Mindset
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48:00Get full access to Anchor Change with Katie Harbath at anchorchange.substack.com/subscribeBy Katie Harbath
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The Podcast is Back: Panic Responsibly With Me
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2:01I’m excited to announce that the podcast returns Thursday, May 29, with a fresh season of conversations designed to help you navigate life's complexities—and panic responsibly. As part of streamlining my brand, the podcast has officially transitioned from Impossible Tradeoffs to Anchor Change. This season, you'll hear stories of courageous pivots, …
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ELB Podcast 6:8: Danielle Lang: Is Trump’s Executive Order on Voting A Threat to Democracy?
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30:42What does the Trump executive order on elections purport to do?Why did a federal court put big parts of that executive order on hold?Does this EO threaten the 2026 midterm elections?On the season finale of Season 6 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with Danielle Lang of the Campaign Legal Center.By Rick Hasen
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ELB Podcast 6:7: Combatting False Election Information: Lessons from 2024 and a Look to the Future (Marwick, Starbird, Tucker)
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55:19How did campaigning and false information in campaigns change in the 2024 elections?What role did platform content moderation play in 2024?Is generative AI going to change campaigns in 2028 and beyond?On Season 6, Episode 7 of the ELB podcast, a roundtable with Alice Marwick, Kate Starbird, and Joshua Tucker.…
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ELB 6:6: What Do Documentary Proof of Citizenship Laws Accomplish? (Fontes, Olson, Perales)
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57:41Do documentary proof of citizenship laws stop a lot of illegal voting or suppress the votes of eligible voters?How have such laws been implemented in the state of Arizona and elsewhere?What are the prospects for passage of the SAVE Act, which would bring such laws to the nation as a whole?On season 6, Episode 6 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with Ari…
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ELB Podcast 6:5: Fair Elections and Voting Rights: What Ahead in the Next Four Years? (Gardner, Karlan, Richer)
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53:08What will the new Trump Administration and the new Congress do when it comes to voting rights and fair elections?What challenges face state and local election officials going forward?Will the courts stand up for voting rights and fair elections in the years to come?On Season 6, Episode 5 of the ELB podcast, we feature a discussion with Amy Gardner,…
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In this episode of Impossible Trade-Offs, Katie Harbath and Mike Rognlien discuss the evolution of corporate culture at Facebook, particularly focusing on race and gender bias training. They explore the significance of learning and development initiatives, the impact of recent changes at Meta, and the challenges of navigating political perspectives…
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ELB Podcast 6:4:Katie Harbath: The Present and Future of Social Media, Politics, and Elections
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36:11How did social media’s treatment of election content change in the 2024 elections?What do Meta’s new announcements mean for politics and society going forward?How might AI change everything?On Season 6, Episode 4 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with social media and politics expert Katie Harbath.By Rick Hasen
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2024 - A Recap of the Year the World Voted
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42:29For my last podcast of season three and 2024, I’m thrilled to welcome Ravi Agrawal, the Editor-in-Chief of Foreign Policy magazine, to reflect on this historic year of elections. We discussed the significant trends and observations from the 2024 elections globally during our conversation. He highlights the challenges incumbents faced, the role of c…
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NPR and C-SPAN on Navigating a Changing Media Landscape
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49:46This week I had the honor of moderating a fireside chat with NPR CEO Katherine Maher and C-SPAN CEO Sam Feist at the National Conference on Citizenship’s annual conference. We were able to record it to bring to you on this podcast. Katherine and Sam both took on these roles this year, and some of the things we discuss include: * Reflections on the …
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I’m grateful this week that Aaron Rodericks, Vice President of Trust and Safety at Bluesky, made the time to join me for a conversation about how the platform is tackling the surge in users it’s seen in the U.S. since the election. This isn’t the first time they’ve seen such growth spurts—another happened in Brazil when X was briefly banned. These …
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Happy Thanksgiving! I decided to release an episode today because I figured people would want something to listen to while prepping the turkey or driving to see family and friends. I also know that Thanksgiving and the holidays can be a time when tough conversations arise, especially after an election. That’s why I wanted to talk to Lori Brewer Col…
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Decoding Gen Z's Relationship with Technology
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52:50This week on the podcast, I chatted with Rebekah Park, Vishnupriya Das, Devika Kumar, and Laura Murray, researchers at Gemic, a global growth strategy firm. They worked with Nhu Le, Rachel Xu, and Beth Goldberg from Google’s Jigsaw on a study looking at how young people in India and the US trust online content in the age of generative AI. I wrote a…
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Image created by ChatGPT If I’m honest, I’m still processing everything. I’m giving myself and others the space to process everything. But, I still wanted to do a podcast. I have this deep fear that if I don’t stick to a schedule, I’ll fall off the wagon of creating content. It's probably not true, but I like to keep doing things to move forward. S…
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In this episode, I welcome Maria Giannopoulos who shares her unique journey at the intersection of politics and technology, particularly her role in the 2024 Republican National Convention. She discusses the extensive planning involved in organizing such a large-scale event, developing a digital strategy to engage both on-site attendees and online …
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How votes in the U.S. are counted and certified (and why you should care)
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46:27In this episode, Nicole Schneidman discusses the critical processes involved in the electoral system, emphasizing the importance of understanding what happens after voting. She outlines key dates in the election cycle, changes in election laws since 2020, and the journey of a ballot from submission to certification. The discussion also highlights t…
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Twenty years ago, Wired editor Chris Anderson wrote “The Long Tail” - a story about how “the future of entertainment is in the millions of niche markets at the shallow end of the bitstream.” Also, twenty years ago, the term “podcasting” was coined thanks to the introduction of the iPod and RSS feeds that could carry audio files. Today, in these fin…
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Bridging the Atlantic: Tech's True Impact on Elections & the US-EU Regulatory Divide
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40:36We have another bonus podcast episode for you. One perspective I wanted to get for this season of the podcast is what people outside of the United States think about the election and this country’s overall approach to tech. There’s no one better to ask that question of than Mark Scott. Mark has covered tech as a journalist and now works at the Atla…
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In this episode, Tim Harper discusses his extensive background in election administration and technology, focusing on the intersection of democracy and technology. He elaborates on his work with the Bipartisan Policy Center's task force aimed at improving election processes, as well as his current role at the Center for Democracy and Technology (CD…
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I’ve been so lucky to have some great conversations for the podcast this Fall, but with Election Day rapidly approaching in the United States, I will do two bonus Monday episodes on top of the usual ones on Thursdays to get all of this content out. First, we have Betsy Hoover and Eric Wilson discuss with me the evolving landscape of campaign techno…
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ELB Podcast 6:3 From Nov. 5 to Jan. 6: Are We Prepared for a Fair and Safe Election?
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1:02:29What are the risks to a peaceful transition of power once all the votes have been cast?What can we learn from history and from other democracies about our moment of democratic peril?How worried should we be about the risks of political violence?On Season 6, Episode 3 of the ELB Podcast we speak with Republican election lawyer Ben Ginsberg, the Hoov…
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The Continued Decline of Global Internet Freedom
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43:03I’m excited to welcome Allie Funk, Grant Baker, and Kian Vesteinsson of Freedom House’s technology and democracy team to the podcast, who released their 2024 Freedom on the Net report this week. Our conversation revolves around the latest Freedom on the Net report, highlighting the ongoing decline of global internet freedom for the 14th consecutive…
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ELB 6:2 The United States Electoral College and Fair Elections (Fishkin, Hollis-Brusky, Muller)
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1:11:31Why do we have the Electoral College and is its use justified today?Why do Democrats and Republicans think differently about the Electoral College?Does the Electoral College make it harder or easier to subvert American elections?On Season 6, Episode 2 of the ELB Podcast we speak with Joey Fishkin of UCLA Law, Amanda Hollis-Brusky of Pomona College,…
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Fusion Analysis to Identify Political and Tech Trends
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35:41Welcome to fellow newsletter writer, Bruce Mehlman who has long been a fixture in DC for his smart graphs and quarterly reports on where the trends are going, not just in politics but also in the economy, tech, national security, and more. I highly recommend you sign up for his newsletter, Bruce Mehlman's Age of Disruption. In our conversation, Bru…
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Digital Campaigning in 2024: Insights from the Frontlines
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39:40We’re back! Thanks again to everyone for your understanding of my gap week. In this episode, Amanda Elliott and Kyle Tharp, both newsletter writers focused on digital politics, discuss their experiences and insights into the evolving landscape of political campaigning. They explore the impact of digital strategies, fundraising, and the role of soci…
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Good morning. Due to some scheduling changes, I don’t have a podcast for this week. Thank you for understanding. If you are new to the pod, I recommend you check out the archives. Some of the more popular episodes include: * A conversation with Renee DiResta about her book Invisible Rulers * Dave Willner on the evolution of trust and safety in tech…
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ELB Podcast 6:1 Democracy and the Risks to the 2024 Elections (Aden, Fortier, & Roth)
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1:06:12How prepared are we for a peaceful transition of power in 2024 in light of what we witnessed in the 2020 elections?What hurdles stand before minority voters in the upcoming elections?How has the social media and information environment affecting elections shifted since 2020?On today’s episode of the ELB Podcast we speak with Leah Aden, of the NAACP…
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We’re back! Welcome to season three of Impossible Tradeoffs. This season will focus mainly on the U.S. election, how the campaigns use tech, how tech companies respond, and what people outside the United States are watching. First up is Paolo Carozza, a member of the Meta Oversight Board and law professor at Notre Dame. Earlier this week, the Overs…
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I’ve got another special episode of the Summer Spectacular podcast for you with my good friend Emi Kolawole. Emi has 10 years of experience in communications, design, and tech. In our conversation, she shares her insights from attending the Aspen Ideas Festival and the Socrates program. She highlights the importance of including diverse voices, par…
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Perspectives on Trust and Safety Among Investors
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30:55Ahead of TrustCon next week, I wanted to bring you a conversation I’ve been trying to set up since Duco released the Trust and Safety Market Research Report in March. Guests, investors Lauren Wagner and Shu Dar Yao, join me to discuss their involvement in the report and the reasons behind it. They highlight key takeaways from the report, such as th…
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Debrief on the India and EU Elections Online
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38:32I’ll admit, I wasn’t expecting to do my first Summer Spectacular episode quite this quickly. However, when Saurabh Shukla with NewsMobile pinged me on WhatsApp to offer to talk about what had happened in the Indian election, I jumped at the chance. I then saw former Integrity Institute resident fellow Alexis Crews post about her work in the EU, and…
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ELB Podcast 5:8: Renee DiResta: Invisible Rulers and the 2024 Elections
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37:52What’s the difference between how Americans communicated about politics and policies 20 or 30 years ago and how we do it today?What are the most effective ways to combat disinformation in elections and otherwise?Are the platforms and the rest of us ready for election-related threats in 2024?On the season finale of Season 5 of the ELB Podcast, we sp…
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Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality
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42:50Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This is the last episode of season 2! Thank you all for listening. I’ll be taking a break over the summer and returning with season 3 in the Fall. Between now and then, I might be planning a few summer spectacular episodes, so keep your eyes out. I couldn’t have asked for a better person to end the season with.…
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Building Election Fact Checking Coalitions
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44:57Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This week Claire Wardle and Daniel Bramatti discuss their work in creating fact-checking coalitions around elections as a follow up to the guide we published back in April. They highlight the importance of collaboration and trust-building among news organizations and social media platforms. They also discuss th…
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Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! I’m so honored to have my good friend and expert extraordinaire Kat Duffy as my guest this week. I have no words other than you should listen to everything she says. Summary Kat Duffy, a senior fellow for digital and cyberspace policy at the Council on Foreign Relations, discusses her work in the trust and safe…
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ACK! I totally forgot to schedule this last night. So sorry for my delay. Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This week we welcome Nina Jankowicz to the podcast. She talks about the importance of recognizing Russia's use of disinformation as a geopolitical strategy and the need for more vocal online presence in countering disinformation. Nina als…
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Kate Dommett, a professor of digital politics, discusses her book “Data-Driven Campaigning and Political Parties” and her research on how political parties use data in election campaigns. She explores the prevailing narratives around data-driven campaigning and how they often do not match reality. Dommett also discusses the role of regulation in da…
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Pivot! Navigating Unprecedented Times with Audacity and Humility
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39:40Sorry for the slight delay today. The tech gods were not being kind. Watch this on YouTube! NOTE: A lot of this summary and show notes were generated via a new AI tool by Riverside.fmIn this episode, Brian Fishman, co-founder and chief strategy officer at Cinder, discusses his background in studying terrorism and his work at Facebook. He shares ins…
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ELB 5:7: Rick Pildes: The Two Ricks Discuss the Trump Immunity and Hush Money Cases
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43:29How should we understand the Supreme Court’s questions in the Trump immunity case?Will the Court let Donald Trump go to trial for 2020 election interference based just on his acts as a candidate and not as President?Are the legal theories advanced in Donald Trump’s hush money case in New York legally sound?On Season 5, Episode 7 of the ELB Podcast,…
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Watch this episode on YouTube. As most of you know, I started working full-time as the Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts in January. One of the things I like about the job is getting to work across the industry and seeing how companies tackle similar problems differently. Thus, I thought it would be fun to bring the leadership team on the podc…
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Harbath Solo Session: Frequently Asked Questions
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1:00:42I’m trying something different for this week’s podcast. I originally hoped I would have a webinar to repurpose, but we ended up rescheduling it, so rather than not doing a podcast this week, I thought I would record the answers to questions I get quite often. In this discussion, I go into seven different areas of interest. Topics and time stamps ar…
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Watch the video of our conversation on YouTube! This week, I welcome Professor Kate Klonick to the podcast. The name of this episode comes from some amazing swag Kate made for a conference she put on last year on the history of the Trust and Safety profession. (You know how much I love swag.) Kate is among the foremost experts on many things, inclu…
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Don’t forget you can watch all of these on YouTube! This week, we are discussing all things online influence operations with one of the foremost experts - Olga Belogolva. We’re talking about Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and other actors who want to influence the online information environment. The title of this episode comes from one of her classes…
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Michael Bąk on the intersection of tech and civil society
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37:33Don’t forget you can also watch this on YouTube! This week, we are talking to Michael Bąk. Michael brings more than two decades of experience across international development, peacebuilding, diplomacy, and tech policy. Throughout his career, he has sustained a strong commitment to democratic governance, human rights, and information integrity. He i…
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Nate Persily on Elections, Social Media and AI
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40:13Don’t forget you can also watch these on YouTube! This week we welcome Stanford Law Professor Nate Persily to the podcast. I’ve known Nate since 2013/2014 when he held a gathering at Stanford with folks in the tech/digital industry and the Federal Elections Commission. Nate has been a thought leader his entire career with experiences across technol…
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Who Voters Trust for Election Information in 2024
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38:22Don’t forget you can now also watch these conversations on YouTube! This week, we are diving deep into elections and specifically where people go to get information on the election. Rachel Orey is the Bipartisan Policy Center’s Senior Associate Director where they are responsible for the organization’s election administration policy development, st…
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Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight Disinformation
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55:39This week on the podcast, we are taking you to SXSW and discussing a conversation I had with Sasha Issenberg about his new book, Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight Disinformation. You might remember him from his popular book Victory Lab, which was published after Obama won. Sasha’s book looks at people in the U.S. and Brazil who were at …
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Is Media Literacy the New Fact-Checking? The Case of MediaWise
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42:44Welcome to this episode of the Speed and Scale Podcast, where we dive deep into the intersection of technology, politics, and society's urgent need for fact-based discourse. I'm very excited to have Alex Mahadevan on the show today. Alex is the Director of MediaWise at the Poynter Institute. He's also a good friend and a former colleague with whom …
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Democracy Works: Helping voters navigate the first elections in the generative AI era
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34:08We’re back! I didn’t intend to take two full months off from the podcast, but as many of you know, I started a new job in January as the Chief Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts - a technology consulting firm. It has been overwhelming, in a good way, but it took me a bit to get started again with the podcast. I’ve got some exciting guests lined…
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Discussing 'Impossible Tradeoffs' with Katie Harbath
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33:55Welcome to this episode of the Speed and Scale Podcast, where we dive deep into the intersection of technology, politics, and society's urgent need for fact-based discourse. Today, we're thrilled to have Katie Harbath, a global leader at the intersection of technology and democracy. Katie brings a wealth of experience from her time at Meta, where s…
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