Welcome to Anchor Change, where we help you panic responsibly in a chaotic world. I’m Katie Harbath—a Midwesterner living in DC who’s spent two decades navigating impossible tradeoffs at the intersection of tech, politics, and democracy. Each week, I’ll break down the headlines, talk with people forging bold paths, and explore how we can face disruption with clarity and courage. This isn’t about hot takes—it’s about finding steady ground when everything feels uncertain. In a world of complex ...
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Welcome to "Speed and Scale," where I delve deep into the frontline battle against misinformation. I will highlight the tireless efforts of fact-checkers, experts, researchers, and Trust & Safety teams across digital platforms, showcasing the critical work to safeguard truth and accuracy in our information ecosystem.
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How do you build a life that unfolds like a story worth telling? This week, I sit down with the inimitable Kate Hill—writer, cook, mentor, and founder of the creative retreat Camont in Southwest France. Kate has lived many lives: as an art curator, barge navigator, cookbook author, and now as a Substack writer sharing deeply personal reflections on…
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What if your business could be both wildly successful and soulfully aligned? In this episode, I talk with Rachael James, the founder of Wild Alabaster and Urban Alchemy Coffee Co., about building brands that are both beautiful and healing, crafting a life that fits your actual needs, and how to panic responsibly when the momentum takes off faster t…
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Trust and safety is often misunderstood—seen as reactive, political, or merely procedural. But for those doing the work, it’s something much deeper: a profession built on care, resilience, and community. Charlotte Willner, Executive Director of the Trust and Safety Professional Association (TSPA), joins Katie to share how she got into the field, wh…
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When headlines fuel distrust in government and disruption feels more chaotic than constructive, how do we hold onto hope—and channel it into real reform? This week on Anchor Change, I talk with Jen Pahlka—founder of Code for America, author of Recoding America, and former U.S. Deputy CTO—about what it means to not just criticize the system, but to …
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Steve Grove has had a front-row seat to the evolution of the internet, from his early days at YouTube shaping the political division to navigating crisis in state government, and now—reinventing local journalism as publisher of the Star Tribune. In this episode, I talk with Steve to talk about the through lines in his career, what led him to leave …
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In this conversation, Katie Harbath speaks with Hamish McKenzie, co-founder of Substack, about the transformative role of the platform in the media landscape. They discuss how Substack is redefining trust in journalism, the impact of AI on content creation, and the importance of direct relationships between creators and their audiences. McKenzie sh…
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This week’s episode is for anyone who’s ever felt overwhelmed by the pace of AI—or unsure of what power they really hold to shape the future. Rumman Chowdhury is a trailblazer in the responsible AI space—she’s worked in big tech, launched her own nonprofit, advised the Biden administration, and now runs Humane Intelligence. What makes her stand out…
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In this episode, I sit down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, for a candid conversation about leading through disruption. From implementing a tighter paywall strategy that turned the publication profitable, to navigating career pivots from editor to executive, Nick shares the lessons he’s learned in data-driven leadership and reinvention…
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Creating a Life That Actually Feels Like Yours
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44:54When Suzy Dean left teaching, she wasn’t just making a career pivot—she was reclaiming her peace. In this episode, I talk to Suzy—also known as @woowoobestie_suzy—about the path from high school English teacher to intuitive entrepreneur and creator of her own unique digital brand. We talk about what it means to show up online with honesty, how to t…
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Beyond the Linear Career: Embracing a Portfolio Mindset
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48:00Get full access to Anchor Change with Katie Harbath at anchorchange.substack.com/subscribeBy Katie Harbath
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The Podcast is Back: Panic Responsibly With Me
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2:01I’m excited to announce that the podcast returns Thursday, May 29, with a fresh season of conversations designed to help you navigate life's complexities—and panic responsibly. As part of streamlining my brand, the podcast has officially transitioned from Impossible Tradeoffs to Anchor Change. This season, you'll hear stories of courageous pivots, …
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ELB Podcast 6:8: Danielle Lang: Is Trump’s Executive Order on Voting A Threat to Democracy?
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30:42What does the Trump executive order on elections purport to do?Why did a federal court put big parts of that executive order on hold?Does this EO threaten the 2026 midterm elections?On the season finale of Season 6 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with Danielle Lang of the Campaign Legal Center.By Rick Hasen
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ELB Podcast 6:7: Combatting False Election Information: Lessons from 2024 and a Look to the Future (Marwick, Starbird, Tucker)
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55:19How did campaigning and false information in campaigns change in the 2024 elections?What role did platform content moderation play in 2024?Is generative AI going to change campaigns in 2028 and beyond?On Season 6, Episode 7 of the ELB podcast, a roundtable with Alice Marwick, Kate Starbird, and Joshua Tucker.…
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ELB 6:6: What Do Documentary Proof of Citizenship Laws Accomplish? (Fontes, Olson, Perales)
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57:41Do documentary proof of citizenship laws stop a lot of illegal voting or suppress the votes of eligible voters?How have such laws been implemented in the state of Arizona and elsewhere?What are the prospects for passage of the SAVE Act, which would bring such laws to the nation as a whole?On season 6, Episode 6 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with Ari…
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ELB Podcast 6:5: Fair Elections and Voting Rights: What Ahead in the Next Four Years? (Gardner, Karlan, Richer)
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53:08What will the new Trump Administration and the new Congress do when it comes to voting rights and fair elections?What challenges face state and local election officials going forward?Will the courts stand up for voting rights and fair elections in the years to come?On Season 6, Episode 5 of the ELB podcast, we feature a discussion with Amy Gardner,…
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In this episode of Impossible Trade-Offs, Katie Harbath and Mike Rognlien discuss the evolution of corporate culture at Facebook, particularly focusing on race and gender bias training. They explore the significance of learning and development initiatives, the impact of recent changes at Meta, and the challenges of navigating political perspectives…
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ELB Podcast 6:4:Katie Harbath: The Present and Future of Social Media, Politics, and Elections
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36:11How did social media’s treatment of election content change in the 2024 elections?What do Meta’s new announcements mean for politics and society going forward?How might AI change everything?On Season 6, Episode 4 of the ELB Podcast, we speak with social media and politics expert Katie Harbath.By Rick Hasen
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2024 - A Recap of the Year the World Voted
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42:29For my last podcast of season three and 2024, I’m thrilled to welcome Ravi Agrawal, the Editor-in-Chief of Foreign Policy magazine, to reflect on this historic year of elections. We discussed the significant trends and observations from the 2024 elections globally during our conversation. He highlights the challenges incumbents faced, the role of c…
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NPR and C-SPAN on Navigating a Changing Media Landscape
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49:46This week I had the honor of moderating a fireside chat with NPR CEO Katherine Maher and C-SPAN CEO Sam Feist at the National Conference on Citizenship’s annual conference. We were able to record it to bring to you on this podcast. Katherine and Sam both took on these roles this year, and some of the things we discuss include: * Reflections on the …
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I’m grateful this week that Aaron Rodericks, Vice President of Trust and Safety at Bluesky, made the time to join me for a conversation about how the platform is tackling the surge in users it’s seen in the U.S. since the election. This isn’t the first time they’ve seen such growth spurts—another happened in Brazil when X was briefly banned. These …
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Happy Thanksgiving! I decided to release an episode today because I figured people would want something to listen to while prepping the turkey or driving to see family and friends. I also know that Thanksgiving and the holidays can be a time when tough conversations arise, especially after an election. That’s why I wanted to talk to Lori Brewer Col…
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Decoding Gen Z's Relationship with Technology
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52:50This week on the podcast, I chatted with Rebekah Park, Vishnupriya Das, Devika Kumar, and Laura Murray, researchers at Gemic, a global growth strategy firm. They worked with Nhu Le, Rachel Xu, and Beth Goldberg from Google’s Jigsaw on a study looking at how young people in India and the US trust online content in the age of generative AI. I wrote a…
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Image created by ChatGPT If I’m honest, I’m still processing everything. I’m giving myself and others the space to process everything. But, I still wanted to do a podcast. I have this deep fear that if I don’t stick to a schedule, I’ll fall off the wagon of creating content. It's probably not true, but I like to keep doing things to move forward. S…
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In this episode, I welcome Maria Giannopoulos who shares her unique journey at the intersection of politics and technology, particularly her role in the 2024 Republican National Convention. She discusses the extensive planning involved in organizing such a large-scale event, developing a digital strategy to engage both on-site attendees and online …
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How votes in the U.S. are counted and certified (and why you should care)
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46:27In this episode, Nicole Schneidman discusses the critical processes involved in the electoral system, emphasizing the importance of understanding what happens after voting. She outlines key dates in the election cycle, changes in election laws since 2020, and the journey of a ballot from submission to certification. The discussion also highlights t…
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Twenty years ago, Wired editor Chris Anderson wrote “The Long Tail” - a story about how “the future of entertainment is in the millions of niche markets at the shallow end of the bitstream.” Also, twenty years ago, the term “podcasting” was coined thanks to the introduction of the iPod and RSS feeds that could carry audio files. Today, in these fin…
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Bridging the Atlantic: Tech's True Impact on Elections & the US-EU Regulatory Divide
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40:36We have another bonus podcast episode for you. One perspective I wanted to get for this season of the podcast is what people outside of the United States think about the election and this country’s overall approach to tech. There’s no one better to ask that question of than Mark Scott. Mark has covered tech as a journalist and now works at the Atla…
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In this episode, Tim Harper discusses his extensive background in election administration and technology, focusing on the intersection of democracy and technology. He elaborates on his work with the Bipartisan Policy Center's task force aimed at improving election processes, as well as his current role at the Center for Democracy and Technology (CD…
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I’ve been so lucky to have some great conversations for the podcast this Fall, but with Election Day rapidly approaching in the United States, I will do two bonus Monday episodes on top of the usual ones on Thursdays to get all of this content out. First, we have Betsy Hoover and Eric Wilson discuss with me the evolving landscape of campaign techno…
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ELB Podcast 6:3 From Nov. 5 to Jan. 6: Are We Prepared for a Fair and Safe Election?
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1:02:29What are the risks to a peaceful transition of power once all the votes have been cast?What can we learn from history and from other democracies about our moment of democratic peril?How worried should we be about the risks of political violence?On Season 6, Episode 3 of the ELB Podcast we speak with Republican election lawyer Ben Ginsberg, the Hoov…
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The Continued Decline of Global Internet Freedom
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43:03I’m excited to welcome Allie Funk, Grant Baker, and Kian Vesteinsson of Freedom House’s technology and democracy team to the podcast, who released their 2024 Freedom on the Net report this week. Our conversation revolves around the latest Freedom on the Net report, highlighting the ongoing decline of global internet freedom for the 14th consecutive…
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ELB 6:2 The United States Electoral College and Fair Elections (Fishkin, Hollis-Brusky, Muller)
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1:11:31Why do we have the Electoral College and is its use justified today?Why do Democrats and Republicans think differently about the Electoral College?Does the Electoral College make it harder or easier to subvert American elections?On Season 6, Episode 2 of the ELB Podcast we speak with Joey Fishkin of UCLA Law, Amanda Hollis-Brusky of Pomona College,…
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Fusion Analysis to Identify Political and Tech Trends
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35:41Welcome to fellow newsletter writer, Bruce Mehlman who has long been a fixture in DC for his smart graphs and quarterly reports on where the trends are going, not just in politics but also in the economy, tech, national security, and more. I highly recommend you sign up for his newsletter, Bruce Mehlman's Age of Disruption. In our conversation, Bru…
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Digital Campaigning in 2024: Insights from the Frontlines
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39:40We’re back! Thanks again to everyone for your understanding of my gap week. In this episode, Amanda Elliott and Kyle Tharp, both newsletter writers focused on digital politics, discuss their experiences and insights into the evolving landscape of political campaigning. They explore the impact of digital strategies, fundraising, and the role of soci…
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Good morning. Due to some scheduling changes, I don’t have a podcast for this week. Thank you for understanding. If you are new to the pod, I recommend you check out the archives. Some of the more popular episodes include: * A conversation with Renee DiResta about her book Invisible Rulers * Dave Willner on the evolution of trust and safety in tech…
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ELB Podcast 6:1 Democracy and the Risks to the 2024 Elections (Aden, Fortier, & Roth)
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1:06:12How prepared are we for a peaceful transition of power in 2024 in light of what we witnessed in the 2020 elections?What hurdles stand before minority voters in the upcoming elections?How has the social media and information environment affecting elections shifted since 2020?On today’s episode of the ELB Podcast we speak with Leah Aden, of the NAACP…
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We’re back! Welcome to season three of Impossible Tradeoffs. This season will focus mainly on the U.S. election, how the campaigns use tech, how tech companies respond, and what people outside the United States are watching. First up is Paolo Carozza, a member of the Meta Oversight Board and law professor at Notre Dame. Earlier this week, the Overs…
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I’ve got another special episode of the Summer Spectacular podcast for you with my good friend Emi Kolawole. Emi has 10 years of experience in communications, design, and tech. In our conversation, she shares her insights from attending the Aspen Ideas Festival and the Socrates program. She highlights the importance of including diverse voices, par…
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Perspectives on Trust and Safety Among Investors
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30:55Ahead of TrustCon next week, I wanted to bring you a conversation I’ve been trying to set up since Duco released the Trust and Safety Market Research Report in March. Guests, investors Lauren Wagner and Shu Dar Yao, join me to discuss their involvement in the report and the reasons behind it. They highlight key takeaways from the report, such as th…
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Debrief on the India and EU Elections Online
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38:32I’ll admit, I wasn’t expecting to do my first Summer Spectacular episode quite this quickly. However, when Saurabh Shukla with NewsMobile pinged me on WhatsApp to offer to talk about what had happened in the Indian election, I jumped at the chance. I then saw former Integrity Institute resident fellow Alexis Crews post about her work in the EU, and…
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ELB Podcast 5:8: Renee DiResta: Invisible Rulers and the 2024 Elections
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37:52What’s the difference between how Americans communicated about politics and policies 20 or 30 years ago and how we do it today?What are the most effective ways to combat disinformation in elections and otherwise?Are the platforms and the rest of us ready for election-related threats in 2024?On the season finale of Season 5 of the ELB Podcast, we sp…
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Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies into Reality
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42:50Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This is the last episode of season 2! Thank you all for listening. I’ll be taking a break over the summer and returning with season 3 in the Fall. Between now and then, I might be planning a few summer spectacular episodes, so keep your eyes out. I couldn’t have asked for a better person to end the season with.…
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Building Election Fact Checking Coalitions
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44:57Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This week Claire Wardle and Daniel Bramatti discuss their work in creating fact-checking coalitions around elections as a follow up to the guide we published back in April. They highlight the importance of collaboration and trust-building among news organizations and social media platforms. They also discuss th…
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Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! I’m so honored to have my good friend and expert extraordinaire Kat Duffy as my guest this week. I have no words other than you should listen to everything she says. Summary Kat Duffy, a senior fellow for digital and cyberspace policy at the Council on Foreign Relations, discusses her work in the trust and safe…
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ACK! I totally forgot to schedule this last night. So sorry for my delay. Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube! This week we welcome Nina Jankowicz to the podcast. She talks about the importance of recognizing Russia's use of disinformation as a geopolitical strategy and the need for more vocal online presence in countering disinformation. Nina als…
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Kate Dommett, a professor of digital politics, discusses her book “Data-Driven Campaigning and Political Parties” and her research on how political parties use data in election campaigns. She explores the prevailing narratives around data-driven campaigning and how they often do not match reality. Dommett also discusses the role of regulation in da…
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Pivot! Navigating Unprecedented Times with Audacity and Humility
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39:40Sorry for the slight delay today. The tech gods were not being kind. Watch this on YouTube! NOTE: A lot of this summary and show notes were generated via a new AI tool by Riverside.fmIn this episode, Brian Fishman, co-founder and chief strategy officer at Cinder, discusses his background in studying terrorism and his work at Facebook. He shares ins…
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ELB 5:7: Rick Pildes: The Two Ricks Discuss the Trump Immunity and Hush Money Cases
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43:29How should we understand the Supreme Court’s questions in the Trump immunity case?Will the Court let Donald Trump go to trial for 2020 election interference based just on his acts as a candidate and not as President?Are the legal theories advanced in Donald Trump’s hush money case in New York legally sound?On Season 5, Episode 7 of the ELB Podcast,…
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Watch this episode on YouTube. As most of you know, I started working full-time as the Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts in January. One of the things I like about the job is getting to work across the industry and seeing how companies tackle similar problems differently. Thus, I thought it would be fun to bring the leadership team on the podc…
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Harbath Solo Session: Frequently Asked Questions
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1:00:42I’m trying something different for this week’s podcast. I originally hoped I would have a webinar to repurpose, but we ended up rescheduling it, so rather than not doing a podcast this week, I thought I would record the answers to questions I get quite often. In this discussion, I go into seven different areas of interest. Topics and time stamps ar…
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