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A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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The Friday Habit

Mark Labriola II & Benjamin Manley

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Most business owners are too busy doing work for their customers to make critical improvements to their business. We created The Friday Habit Weekly Review System to show entrepreneurs around the world how to set aside one day every week to improve their businesses so they can stop feeling overwhelmed and make their businesses work for them.
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A new podcast where Kevin Muldoon and guests wrangle with the big common problems that design systems face. Every episode, they’ll hogtie a challenge, give it a good once over, and share the best techniques they’ve found to conquer them, from dealing with inconsistency to naming to white-label systems.
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Design Systems: Beyond The Button

Michelle Chin and Nefertiti Dukes

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Wondering what’s involved in making a successful design system? So is Nef, the newest member of zeroheight’s marketing team. In this podcast, Nef is joined by one of zeroheight’s trustiest Design Advocates, Michelle Chin, to get their questions answered about everything related to the big world of design systems. If you’re eager to make the bestest design system ever, you’ve found the perfect place!
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The American Civil War is perhaps the most significant event in American history. Its leaders, politics, battles, campaigns, and innovations have been studied throughout the world and continue to inspire awe in contemporary memory. This podcast will take the Civil War and trace the conflict from its origins to its campaigns and finally its aftermath and memory. Now grab your knapsack and rifle, fall in, and lets get marching!
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Design system consultants Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are going back to design systems school. In this series, Amy and Geri put aside their vocal and opinionated assumptions to dive deep on design systems topics; from Figma libraries to design tokens to deciding if AI can really write decent documentation. Climb aboard the school bus for a field trip on the history, the conversations and the foundations that really makes a design system great.It’s time to crack open the textbooks and head back to ...
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A new podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Liz Plank that offers emotional support to process the anxiety that accompanies an increasingly chaotic news cycle. The world is scary. But Liz’s guiding philosophy is not to distract you from bad news, it’s to help you understand it. The news needs therapy. Liz is here to help. Every week she’s joined by an expert, friend, or spiritual leader to try and help you understand yourself and the world, a little better.
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HumAIn Podcast

David Yakobovitch

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Welcome to HumAIn, the top 1% global podcast shaping the future of AI and technology. Join host David Yakobovitch, a renowned AI innovator and venture capitalist, as he takes you on an exhilarating journey through the world of Artificial Intelligence, Data Science, and cutting-edge tech. Through intimate fireside chats with Chief Data Scientists, AI Advisors, and visionary leaders, we peel back the curtain on groundbreaking AI products, dissect industry trends, and explore how AI is reshapin ...
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. What does it take to transform 121 years of automotive legacy into a modern digital ecosystem? Catherine Dubut, Director of Global UX Strategy at Ford Pro, joins Chris Strahl to share how her team is reengineering the organization’s fragmented product landscape into a scalable, unified digital assembly line.…
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark sits down with Chris Tyrell, founder of Chris’s Garage Doors, to talk about the unexpected road from seminary student to successful entrepreneur. Chris shares how faith, community, and a deep sense of purpose have guided his business journey—and why giving generously has always been part of the plan. Chris …
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Selling the value of your design system to folks who don't necessarily understand it is a difficult and thankless task. But are we trying to sell in the right things? Is it possible to put the value of our design system against the bottom line, and how far down the stack can we go? Can we actually put a dollar sign against a single component?…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. The design token nerds are taking over the pod! In this episode, guest host Christopher Bloom sits down with Garth Braithwaite, Lead Senior Staff Design Engineer at Adobe, for a deep dive into the inner workings of Spectrum’s design tokens. Garth shares how Adobe manages the complexity of scaling a multi-pla…
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The age old question – should designers know how to code? Or more specifically, how much should designer know when it comes to code? Considering it's the medium that we're designing for, it's still surprising how much this topic splits opinion. Luke and special guest Rob Whitfield will dive into the pros and cons, and give some practical advice if …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark sits down with Steve Van Diest, President of Acumen’s Front Range region, to unpack the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial journey. From founding a thriving mattress business to launching a customizable pillow company, Steve’s path has been anything but linear. Steve candidly shares his experiences with …
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode, TJ Pitre, founder of South Left, joins the podcast to trace the real evolution of digital production — from the early days of Flash and Fireworks to today's dynamic, system-driven workflows. TJ shares his journey bridging design and development, reflects on the rise of modern tools like Figm…
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episode 466 with musician blair shehan from knapsack, raquet club & the jealous sound https://www.instagram.com/blairshehan/?hl=en PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversation…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. This week, we're digging into the Design Systems Podcast archives. Guest host Richard Banfield, VP of Design Leadership at Knapsack, revisits a 2020 conversation between host Chris Strahl and Rick Rodriguez, then Head of Design Systems at Walmart Labs. Rick shares how his team developed Living Design, Walmar…
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episode 464 -generation x meets generation z - with cameron king https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCmV4YShE3_P6hpcbDZRExw?app=desktop PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversation…
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In this episode, Patti Johnson shares her path from growing up in a small town in Oklahoma to launching a successful consulting business and becoming an author. She talks about what it really takes to start and grow a business, including the importance of research, networking, and building strong relationships instead of relying on traditional sale…
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How big is too big? Is there a point where your design system just becomes unwieldy? Luke and Michelle dive into this question from a previous episode, and try and figure out how you keep your design system to a manageable size. Or is that just a nice problem to have, and we should embracing our systems to grow to the size they need to be?…
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episode 464 - the return of murray attaway from guadalcanal diary https://murrayattaway.com/ https://www.instagram.com/murrayattaway/# https://murrayattaway.com/murrays-song-gallery/ https://murrayattaway.bandcamp.com/album/tense-music-plays PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEAS…
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In the ever-evolving landscape of technology, decentralization is emerging as a powerful force for change. This episode of The Friday Habit brings you a fascinating conversation with David Young, a pioneer in cloud computing and open-source technology. David shares his journey from studying ancient Greek and Latin to becoming a trailblazer in the t…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, guest host Andrew Rohman sits down with Jon Warden to explore how GSK leverages design systems to drive consistency, innovation, and efficiency across a highly complex global organization. With multiple brands, multi-product ecosystems, and diverse regional need…
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episode 463 - the return of martin atkins - the museum of post punk & industrial music, pigface, public image ltd., ministry, killing joke, nine inch nails & more https://ppimchicago.com/events/ https://martinatkins.bigcartel.com/about http://flowersfightforsunshine – Martin Atkinshttps://www.instagram.com › flowersfightforsunshine https://twitter.…
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Detach instance is a concept that has stuck fear into the hearts of design systems folks since the beginning. However, there are definitely instances where it’s totally ok to snowflake components! How should you deal with snowflakes in your system? How does this play into your overall view on flexibility, and can you actually use snowflakes as a wa…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, guest host Richard Banfield takes us on a journey through the intersection of artificial intelligence and design systems. We revisit some of the most compelling discussions featuring experts David Calleja, Nick Hahn, Ranjeet Tayi, and Kate Moran. Together, they …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Mark Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with guests Mark Ackler and Mert Esheri, exploring the intricacies of entrepreneurship, the importance of building relationships, and the lessons learned from their experiences in the startup world. They discuss the journey from idea to execution, the significance o…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. in this episode Knapsack's VP of Design Leadership, Richard Banfield takes a look back at a conversation between Chris Strahl and Emily Campbell. They discuss the convergence of design and code, and what that actually looks like. They walk through what a designer role looks like in a modern digital product t…
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark Labriola and Benjamin Manley welcome Natalie Dawson, EVP and partner at Cardone Ventures, to discuss her new book 'Teamwork' and the essential strategies for building high-performance teams. The conversation covers Natalie's journey from a failed business leader to a successful entrepreneur, the importance …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, we welcome Eric Huberman, founder and CEO of Hawk Media. We explore Eric's entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he faced in the early stages of his career, and the strategies he employed to build a successful marketing consultancy. The conversation delves into the realities of entrepreneurship, the importance…
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Marc Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with Youngsoo, who transitioned from a successful career in cryptocurrency software engineering to founding Urban EDC, an eight-figure e-commerce business. Youngsoo shares his journey, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, risk-taking, and audience engageme…
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Sometimes we may feel the urge to include everything in our documentation, to the point where it rivals Lord of the Rings for length and density. However, we may be doing ourselves a disservice! How much is too much documentation? How much is not enough documentation? Do we even need documentation at all? join us for the last Design Systems WTF of …
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In this engaging conversation, Cole Rodgers shares his journey as an entrepreneur, life coach, and speaker dedicated to helping men reach their full potential. He discusses the importance of gratitude, navigating conflict, and the challenges he faced in his early career. Cole emphasizes the role of family and personal growth in shaping identity, an…
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In this engaging conversation, Hugh Howey shares his journey from a book-loving youth to a successful author, discussing the challenges and sacrifices he faced along the way. He emphasizes the importance of passion in writing, the learning process through reading, and the unexpected success of his short story 'Wool', which transformed into a bestse…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Increasingly, design systems need to support multi-product ecosystems with a diverse array of consumers and stakeholders. This week, Chris Strahl sits down with Miranda Bouck from Instacart to explore the intricacies of managing a multi-faceted design system. Miranda delves into the challenges and strategies…
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Design systems should sit in the design team. Design systems should sit in the designops team. Design systems should sit in their own team. There are so many different options that are presented as the ‘truth’ when it comes to design systems and org design. Michelle and Luke are going to wade through the options, weigh up their merits and probably …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Marc Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with Joseph Fung, a seasoned entrepreneur and CEO of Yovaro. The conversation explores Joseph's entrepreneurial journey, the importance of building a high-performing culture, and the strategies for defining, sharing, and scaling company values. Joseph emphasizes the…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Many enterprise organizations face the challenge of scaling their design systems as the scope of product support expands through adoption and acquisition. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, host Chris Strahl speaks with Will Rodenbough, Senior UX Designer at Avalara, about the critical role of de…
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Infinite scroll was designed to enhance the UX for browsing search results, but now it's often used to keep users endlessly engaged on social media. As concerns grow about its impact on mental health, especially among young people, it's time to reconsider its place in design systems. What responsibilities do we have as creators when our components …
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Summary In this engaging conversation, Mark, Ben, and Adam delve into the world of entrepreneurship, exploring Adam's journey from aspiring doctor to successful entrepreneur with his company, Bottlekeeper. They discuss the influence of childhood environments, the importance of creativity in small towns, and the risks associated with starting a busi…
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episode 460 comedian & licensed therapist aimee lacours https://www.instagram.com/aimeelecours/?hl=en https://linktr.ee/aimeelecours http://UCF Free Counseling – https://ccie.ucf.edu/ccrc/ https://thecenterorlando.org/mental-health-counseling/ https://namigo.org/ https://aspirehealthpartners.com/ https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-free-mental-hea…
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A “good” SYNOPSIS - episode 32 Episode 32 of our world famous, monthly wrap-up show A “good” SYNOPSIS is out NOW! As always, I’m joined by our sponsor & best buddy, Moe Dewitt from the DeWitt Law Firm, P.A. to talk about everything that’s been going on in his life. Remember, Injured on the go, just call moe. http://justcallmoe.com Join the Just Cal…
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In our first episode of 2025, Chris Strahl sits down with Adriana Morales, Design Principal at H-E-B, to explore the evolution, challenges, and triumphs of design systems in organizations at different stages of maturity. Adriana shares her journey from IBM to H-E-B, highlighting how each company’s unique fin…
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Design systems are often hailed as the ultimate productivity boosters for devs and designers alike, but do they really deliver on that promise? We’ll explore whether design systems genuinely make teams more efficient or if they just add another layer of complexity. Tune in for a reality check on the true impact of design systems on team performance…
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episode 459 - comedian larry fulford https://www.larryfulford.com/ https://www.instagram.com/lowercasedanger/ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/what-do-you-want-from-us-framework-craft-coffee-house-tickets-1134175492429?aff=oddtdtcreator https://www.instagram.com/fringeartspace.dto/p/DC2AhdSP8ZW/ PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS AB…
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In this conversation, Mark and Rebecca Leder discuss the importance of building meaningful careers through connection and leadership. Rebecca shares insights from her work with Opportunities Knock, emphasizing the need for durable skills and the challenges faced by younger generations in networking. They explore the impact of remote work on communi…
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In this conversation, Judah Taub discusses the concept of 'local maximums' and how individuals and businesses can identify and overcome them. He draws parallels between personal and professional challenges and the strategies used by tech giants to innovate and improve. The discussion emphasizes the importance of creative thinking, the role of AI in…
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