Design Systems Podcast interviews industry leaders and product makers to share best practices and explore the areas where design and development come together.
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A podcast from zeroheight. Let’s be honest, design systems are full of choice wtf moments. Michelle and Luke, two of our resident design advocates, are attempting to combat this with a new regular series, where they answer a single question around design system troubles every two weeks.
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Most business owners are too busy doing work for their customers to make critical improvements to their business. We created The Friday Habit Weekly Review System to show entrepreneurs around the world how to set aside one day every week to improve their businesses so they can stop feeling overwhelmed and make their businesses work for them.
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A new podcast where Kevin Muldoon and guests wrangle with the big common problems that design systems face. Every episode, they’ll hogtie a challenge, give it a good once over, and share the best techniques they’ve found to conquer them, from dealing with inconsistency to naming to white-label systems.
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Wondering what’s involved in making a successful design system? So is Nef, the newest member of zeroheight’s marketing team. In this podcast, Nef is joined by one of zeroheight’s trustiest Design Advocates, Michelle Chin, to get their questions answered about everything related to the big world of design systems. If you’re eager to make the bestest design system ever, you’ve found the perfect place!
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The American Civil War is perhaps the most significant event in American history. Its leaders, politics, battles, campaigns, and innovations have been studied throughout the world and continue to inspire awe in contemporary memory. This podcast will take the Civil War and trace the conflict from its origins to its campaigns and finally its aftermath and memory. Now grab your knapsack and rifle, fall in, and lets get marching!
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Design system consultants Amy Hupe and Geri Reid are going back to design systems school. In this series, Amy and Geri put aside their vocal and opinionated assumptions to dive deep on design systems topics; from Figma libraries to design tokens to deciding if AI can really write decent documentation. Climb aboard the school bus for a field trip on the history, the conversations and the foundations that really makes a design system great.It’s time to crack open the textbooks and head back to ...
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Lakeside Labs performs research at the intersection of information & communication technology and self-organizing & networked systems. These videos capture some seminar-style lectures from leading scientists from both areas.
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A new podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Liz Plank that offers emotional support to process the anxiety that accompanies an increasingly chaotic news cycle. The world is scary. But Liz’s guiding philosophy is not to distract you from bad news, it’s to help you understand it. The news needs therapy. Liz is here to help. Every week she’s joined by an expert, friend, or spiritual leader to try and help you understand yourself and the world, a little better.
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Welcome to HumAIn, the top 1% global podcast shaping the future of AI and technology. Join host David Yakobovitch, a renowned AI innovator and venture capitalist, as he takes you on an exhilarating journey through the world of Artificial Intelligence, Data Science, and cutting-edge tech. Through intimate fireside chats with Chief Data Scientists, AI Advisors, and visionary leaders, we peel back the curtain on groundbreaking AI products, dissect industry trends, and explore how AI is reshapin ...
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134 Modernizing a Legend: Catherine Dubut Builds the Future at Ford Pro
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30:33Send us feedback or episode suggestions. What does it take to transform 121 years of automotive legacy into a modern digital ecosystem? Catherine Dubut, Director of Global UX Strategy at Ford Pro, joins Chris Strahl to share how her team is reengineering the organization’s fragmented product landscape into a scalable, unified digital assembly line.…
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From Seminary to Service: How Faith, Generosity, and Grit Built a Business
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1:03:50In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark sits down with Chris Tyrell, founder of Chris’s Garage Doors, to talk about the unexpected road from seminary student to successful entrepreneur. Chris shares how faith, community, and a deep sense of purpose have guided his business journey—and why giving generously has always been part of the plan. Chris …
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Can you actually measure the ROI of a component?
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24:19Selling the value of your design system to folks who don't necessarily understand it is a difficult and thankless task. But are we trying to sell in the right things? Is it possible to put the value of our design system against the bottom line, and how far down the stack can we go? Can we actually put a dollar sign against a single component?…
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133. Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe
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59:34Send us feedback or episode suggestions. The design token nerds are taking over the pod! In this episode, guest host Christopher Bloom sits down with Garth Braithwaite, Lead Senior Staff Design Engineer at Adobe, for a deep dive into the inner workings of Spectrum’s design tokens. Garth shares how Adobe manages the complexity of scaling a multi-pla…
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The age old question – should designers know how to code? Or more specifically, how much should designer know when it comes to code? Considering it's the medium that we're designing for, it's still surprising how much this topic splits opinion. Luke and special guest Rob Whitfield will dive into the pros and cons, and give some practical advice if …
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Burnout, Bad Deals & Building Culture: Lessons from the Entrepreneurial Frontlines with Steve Van Diest
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1:07:46In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark sits down with Steve Van Diest, President of Acumen’s Front Range region, to unpack the highs and lows of his entrepreneurial journey. From founding a thriving mattress business to launching a customizable pillow company, Steve’s path has been anything but linear. Steve candidly shares his experiences with …
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episode 469 with josh caterer from the smoking popes
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1:07:29episode 469 with josh caterer from the smoking popes https://www.smokingpopesmusic.com/ PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU!By peter
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Are accessibility guidelines enough to be inclusive?
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25:28Making your design system as inclusive as possible is something that I think we all agree on. However, for most systems teams, this means creating some accessibility guidelines and then ticking it off the list. Is this enough? Is there more we can be doing?By zeroheight
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episode 468 with bruce gordon https://www.instagram.com/brucegordonhome/ PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU!By peter
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132. The Evolution of Digital Production: TJ Pitre Talks Flash, Figma, and the Future of Dynamic Design
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29:49Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode, TJ Pitre, founder of South Left, joins the podcast to trace the real evolution of digital production — from the early days of Flash and Fireworks to today's dynamic, system-driven workflows. TJ shares his journey bridging design and development, reflects on the rise of modern tools like Figm…
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episode 467 with founder of the dude nation, ben curtis aka steve the dell dude
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1:13:59https://www.instagram.com/bencurtisofficial/?hl=en https://thedudenation.com/ PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversationBy peter
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Inspired by Luke's article on the death of design systems, Michelle and Luke dive into whether design systems have a future... are we at a natural point of evolution or are design systems going to go the way of the dinosaurs?By zeroheight
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episode 466 with musician blair shehan from knapsack, raquet club & the jealous sound
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50:40episode 466 with musician blair shehan from knapsack, raquet club & the jealous sound https://www.instagram.com/blairshehan/?hl=en PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversation…
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131. DSP Rewind | Rick Rodriguez on Building an Adaptable and Scalable Design system
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31:59Send us feedback or episode suggestions. This week, we're digging into the Design Systems Podcast archives. Guest host Richard Banfield, VP of Design Leadership at Knapsack, revisits a 2020 conversation between host Chris Strahl and Rick Rodriguez, then Head of Design Systems at Walmart Labs. Rick shares how his team developed Living Design, Walmar…
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episode 464 -generation x meets generation z - with cameron king
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45:39episode 464 -generation x meets generation z - with cameron king https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCmV4YShE3_P6hpcbDZRExw?app=desktop PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversation…
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What It Really Takes to Grow a Business with Patti Johnson
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50:25In this episode, Patti Johnson shares her path from growing up in a small town in Oklahoma to launching a successful consulting business and becoming an author. She talks about what it really takes to start and grow a business, including the importance of research, networking, and building strong relationships instead of relying on traditional sale…
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How big is too big? Is there a point where your design system just becomes unwieldy? Luke and Michelle dive into this question from a previous episode, and try and figure out how you keep your design system to a manageable size. Or is that just a nice problem to have, and we should embracing our systems to grow to the size they need to be?…
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episode 464 - the return of murray attaway from guadalcanal diary
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35:32episode 464 - the return of murray attaway from guadalcanal diary https://murrayattaway.com/ https://www.instagram.com/murrayattaway/# https://murrayattaway.com/murrays-song-gallery/ https://murrayattaway.bandcamp.com/album/tense-music-plays PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEAS…
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Open Source Revolution Empowering Business Freedom with David Young
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1:05:19In the ever-evolving landscape of technology, decentralization is emerging as a powerful force for change. This episode of The Friday Habit brings you a fascinating conversation with David Young, a pioneer in cloud computing and open-source technology. David shares his journey from studying ancient Greek and Latin to becoming a trailblazer in the t…
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130. Jon Warden on How GSK Uses Design Systems to Balance Scale, Flexibility, and Innovation
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41:08Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, guest host Andrew Rohman sits down with Jon Warden to explore how GSK leverages design systems to drive consistency, innovation, and efficiency across a highly complex global organization. With multiple brands, multi-product ecosystems, and diverse regional need…
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episode 463 - the return of martin atkins - the museum of post punk & industrial music, pigface, public image ltd., ministry, killing joke, nine inch nails & more
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45:23episode 463 - the return of martin atkins - the museum of post punk & industrial music, pigface, public image ltd., ministry, killing joke, nine inch nails & more https://ppimchicago.com/events/ https://martinatkins.bigcartel.com/about http://flowersfightforsunshine – Martin Atkinshttps://www.instagram.com › flowersfightforsunshine https://twitter.…
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Detach instance is a concept that has stuck fear into the hearts of design systems folks since the beginning. However, there are definitely instances where it’s totally ok to snowflake components! How should you deal with snowflakes in your system? How does this play into your overall view on flexibility, and can you actually use snowflakes as a wa…
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129. DSP Mashup | The Future of AI and Digital Production
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48:21Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, guest host Richard Banfield takes us on a journey through the intersection of artificial intelligence and design systems. We revisit some of the most compelling discussions featuring experts David Calleja, Nick Hahn, Ranjeet Tayi, and Kate Moran. Together, they …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Mark Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with guests Mark Ackler and Mert Esheri, exploring the intricacies of entrepreneurship, the importance of building relationships, and the lessons learned from their experiences in the startup world. They discuss the journey from idea to execution, the significance o…
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128. DSP Rewind | Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence
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42:44Send us feedback or episode suggestions. in this episode Knapsack's VP of Design Leadership, Richard Banfield takes a look back at a conversation between Chris Strahl and Emily Campbell. They discuss the convergence of design and code, and what that actually looks like. They walk through what a designer role looks like in a modern digital product t…
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, Mark Labriola and Benjamin Manley welcome Natalie Dawson, EVP and partner at Cardone Ventures, to discuss her new book 'Teamwork' and the essential strategies for building high-performance teams. The conversation covers Natalie's journey from a failed business leader to a successful entrepreneur, the importance …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, we welcome Eric Huberman, founder and CEO of Hawk Media. We explore Eric's entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he faced in the early stages of his career, and the strategies he employed to build a successful marketing consultancy. The conversation delves into the realities of entrepreneurship, the importance…
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The Importance of Risk-Taking in Entrepreneurship
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57:23In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Marc Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with Youngsoo, who transitioned from a successful career in cryptocurrency software engineering to founding Urban EDC, an eight-figure e-commerce business. Youngsoo shares his journey, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection, risk-taking, and audience engageme…
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Sometimes we may feel the urge to include everything in our documentation, to the point where it rivals Lord of the Rings for length and density. However, we may be doing ourselves a disservice! How much is too much documentation? How much is not enough documentation? Do we even need documentation at all? join us for the last Design Systems WTF of …
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The power of gratitude in personal growth
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46:24In this engaging conversation, Cole Rodgers shares his journey as an entrepreneur, life coach, and speaker dedicated to helping men reach their full potential. He discusses the importance of gratitude, navigating conflict, and the challenges he faced in his early career. Cole emphasizes the role of family and personal growth in shaping identity, an…
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From Sailor to Storyteller: Hugh Howey's Journey
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55:11In this engaging conversation, Hugh Howey shares his journey from a book-loving youth to a successful author, discussing the challenges and sacrifices he faced along the way. He emphasizes the importance of passion in writing, the learning process through reading, and the unexpected success of his short story 'Wool', which transformed into a bestse…
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127. Building a Unified Design System for Instacart’s Multi-Product Ecosystem: Lessons for Success from Miranda Bouck
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31:46Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Increasingly, design systems need to support multi-product ecosystems with a diverse array of consumers and stakeholders. This week, Chris Strahl sits down with Miranda Bouck from Instacart to explore the intricacies of managing a multi-faceted design system. Miranda delves into the challenges and strategies…
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Where should design systems sit in your org?
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29:41Design systems should sit in the design team. Design systems should sit in the designops team. Design systems should sit in their own team. There are so many different options that are presented as the ‘truth’ when it comes to design systems and org design. Michelle and Luke are going to wade through the options, weigh up their merits and probably …
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In this episode of The Friday Habit, hosts Marc Labriola and Benjamin Manley engage with Joseph Fung, a seasoned entrepreneur and CEO of Yovaro. The conversation explores Joseph's entrepreneurial journey, the importance of building a high-performing culture, and the strategies for defining, sharing, and scaling company values. Joseph emphasizes the…
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episode 462 - be right back PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversationBy peter
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126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy
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26:06Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Many enterprise organizations face the challenge of scaling their design systems as the scope of product support expands through adoption and acquisition. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, host Chris Strahl speaks with Will Rodenbough, Senior UX Designer at Avalara, about the critical role of de…
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Infinite scroll was designed to enhance the UX for browsing search results, but now it's often used to keep users endlessly engaged on social media. As concerns grow about its impact on mental health, especially among young people, it's time to reconsider its place in design systems. What responsibilities do we have as creators when our components …
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episode 461 with comedian roo nafasat https://sillyroose.com/ https://www.instagram.com/uroosastfu/ https://www.facebook.com/uroosastfu PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversation…
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The Birth of Bottlekeeper: A Unique Startup Story
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1:06:43Summary In this engaging conversation, Mark, Ben, and Adam delve into the world of entrepreneurship, exploring Adam's journey from aspiring doctor to successful entrepreneur with his company, Bottlekeeper. They discuss the influence of childhood environments, the importance of creativity in small towns, and the risks associated with starting a busi…
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episode 460 comedian & licensed therapist aimee lacours
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52:12episode 460 comedian & licensed therapist aimee lacours https://www.instagram.com/aimeelecours/?hl=en https://linktr.ee/aimeelecours http://UCF Free Counseling – https://ccie.ucf.edu/ccrc/ https://thecenterorlando.org/mental-health-counseling/ https://namigo.org/ https://aspirehealthpartners.com/ https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-free-mental-hea…
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A “good” SYNOPSIS - episode 32 Episode 32 of our world famous, monthly wrap-up show A “good” SYNOPSIS is out NOW! As always, I’m joined by our sponsor & best buddy, Moe Dewitt from the DeWitt Law Firm, P.A. to talk about everything that’s been going on in his life. Remember, Injured on the go, just call moe. http://justcallmoe.com Join the Just Cal…
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125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams
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37:33Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In our first episode of 2025, Chris Strahl sits down with Adriana Morales, Design Principal at H-E-B, to explore the evolution, challenges, and triumphs of design systems in organizations at different stages of maturity. Adriana shares her journey from IBM to H-E-B, highlighting how each company’s unique fin…
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Design systems are often hailed as the ultimate productivity boosters for devs and designers alike, but do they really deliver on that promise? We’ll explore whether design systems genuinely make teams more efficient or if they just add another layer of complexity. Tune in for a reality check on the true impact of design systems on team performance…
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episode 459 - comedian larry fulford https://www.larryfulford.com/ https://www.instagram.com/lowercasedanger/ https://www.eventbrite.com/e/what-do-you-want-from-us-framework-craft-coffee-house-tickets-1134175492429?aff=oddtdtcreator https://www.instagram.com/fringeartspace.dto/p/DC2AhdSP8ZW/ PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS AB…
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Unlocking Purpose-Driven Careers Crafting Your Elevator Pitch
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42:04In this conversation, Mark and Rebecca Leder discuss the importance of building meaningful careers through connection and leadership. Rebecca shares insights from her work with Opportunities Knock, emphasizing the need for durable skills and the challenges faced by younger generations in networking. They explore the impact of remote work on communi…
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episode 458 happy new year PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversationBy peter
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2024 holiday extravaganza - episode 457 PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT ALL MY SPONSORS. THERE’S LINKS ABOVE. PLEASE BE SURE TO TELL THEM WE SENT YOU! PLEASE visit my PATREON at: https://www.patreon.com/scotchandgoodconversationBy peter
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In this conversation, Judah Taub discusses the concept of 'local maximums' and how individuals and businesses can identify and overcome them. He draws parallels between personal and professional challenges and the strategies used by tech giants to innovate and improve. The discussion emphasizes the importance of creative thinking, the role of AI in…
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Contribution often seems like the perfect solution for scaling design systems, but is it really? We'll weigh the tough realities of managing contributions and why a federated system might not suit everyone. We'll explore the hurdles of contribution and how to decide if it's the right path for your team.…
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