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Attached to the Invisible

Amy Simmons & Krispin Mayfield

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Exploring the intersection of the science of attachment and theology, we’re asking why we feel disconnected from God, and how to cultivate security and safety. We interview therapists, writers, theologians and other voices that are part of this important conversation.
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Krispin & DL recap and discuss the second book/movie of The Hunger Games and talk about strategies of authoritarian governments. If you want to hear Part 2 of this episode earlier than the regular schedule, you can ⁠become a patreon subscriber⁠ and listen to part 2 today! Krispin mentions researchers who see corporal punishment as a symbol of devot…
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Krispin & DL recap and discuss the first book/movie of The Hunger Games and talk about how James Dobson and President Snow use the same methods of control. Download Pranksters vs. Autocrats by Sophia McClennen and Srdja Popovic for free! You can read about religious authoritarian parenting and also find the transcript for this podcast at⁠ strongwil…
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DL and Krispin discuss what it’s like when you start to notice your partner’s family is dysfunctional, as well as what it’s like when you’re the one in the enmeshed family — and your partner starts to point it out to you. You can read about religious authoritarian parenting and also find the transcript for this podcast at strongwilled.substack.com.…
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TW: child abuse, corporal punishment DL interviewed Talia Lavin, author of the phenomenal book Wild Faith: How the Christian Right is Taking Over America. You can follow Talia on bluesky and buy her book here. You can read about religious authoritarian parenting and also find the transcript for this podcast at strongwilled.substack.com. You can joi…
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TW: Holocaust denial, homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny, religious trauma DL took some time during their estrangement story to do a deep dive into the intergenerational aftermath of Nazi Germany, and how younger generations talked with their parents about their support of Hitler -- plus, a run down of what seems to be driving estrangement in th…
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TW/CW: denial of structural racism in the US, COVID denial / death, transphobia, homophobia, fatphobia. DL shares their story about going no contact with their parents, and in line with our recent post on substack, discusses how oppressive politics and ideology can do incredible harm in personal relationships. You can read about religious authorita…
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TW/CW: physical abuse, corporal punishment, emotionally abusive caretaker Krispin & DL discuss the second part of the the Adventures in Odyssey episode, a follow up to our podcast episode Spanking on Christian Radio released last fall. This Adventure's in Odyssey episode focuses on Mr. Whitaker’s troubled relationship with his adult daughter. Hones…
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TW/CW: sexual abuse, spanking, religious trauma Krispin shares his story about going no contact with his parents. This is a heavy one, and has an ongoing theme about sexual abuse and a family system that enabled abuse, so please take care in listening. You can read about religious authoritarian parenting and also find the transcript for this podcas…
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TW/CW: corporal punishment, spanking, mention of sexual abuse Krispin & DL discuss the factors that make setting boundary in religious authoritarian families so difficult. We talk about how trauma responses make it difficult for us to speak up, the negative responses to setting boundaries, and more. D.L. mentions the Adult Children of Emotionally I…
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TW/CW: physical abuse, corporal punishment Krispin & DL interview Tori Williams Douglass about corporal punishment and their experience working in a neuroscience lab. You can follow Tori on IG and check out their website here. You can check out our recent post at STRONGWILLED about the research about spanking and corporal punishment here, and the r…
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TW/CW: physical abuse, emotionally abusive/aggressive caretaker, sexual abuse, animal/pet death. Krispin & DL discuss a Christian radio drama about spanking/corporal punishment. We're digging into an episode of Adventures in Odyssey (produced & distributed by James Dobson's organization, Focus on the Family) from 1988 that talked about why it was s…
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TW: suicidal ideation, child loss, emotional neglect/abuse A conversation between Krispin and DL, where DL talks about their childhood with a parent who believed it was the end of the world. In this episode, we also discuss late-diagnosed autism, making sense of family tragedies, and being gender non-conforming in a world that was obsessed with the…
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TW: corporal punishment, child physical abuse, child sexual abuse This episode, Krispin talks about growing up in a small town with conservative parents would joined ministry and eventually overseas mission work, and what religious authoritarian parenting looked like for Krispin’s childhood, teenage years and early adulthood. You can check out show…
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DL and Krispin discuss how religious authoritarian parenting often creates dysfunctional family dynamics, and how it impacts the individuals who grow up in these families. We mention Leaving the Fold by Marlene Winell. You can check out show notes and more STRONGWILLED content at strongwilled.substack.com You can join our patreon comamunity to supp…
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DL and Krispin cover the basics of growing under religious authoritarian parenting — and what we believe therapists should know when they’re helping people heal from this kind of upbringing. We talk about six aspects of religious authoritarian parenting, including the goals of this type of parenting, how religion was used, and the developmental del…
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For this bonus episode, D.L. Mayfield interviewed Amber Cantorna-Wylde, author of Out of Focus, My Story of Sexuality, Shame, and Toxic Evangelicalism. DL talked with her about her experience growing up as the daughter of the man in charge of Adventures in Odyssey. Amber’s story is heartbreaking, inspiring, and also a powerful indictment against th…
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DL & Krispin discuss the season finale of The Good Place Season 1, titled "Michael's Gambit." We talk about recognizing rotten systems (that claim to be good) and also what's next for the podcast! You can Join our patreon comamunity to support this podcast and gain access to two extra episodes each month, our facebook community, as well as the back…
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D.L interviews Kelley Nikondeha, author of First Advent in Palestine about Christian zionism, and how Palestinians view the year 1948 (often called "The Nakba" or "Catasrophe"). Kelley is the author of The First Advent in Palestine: Reversals, Resistance, and the Ongoing Complexities of Hope. You can follow her on Instagram here. Here is a great 4-…
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The book we are discussing is The Gates of Zion by Brock and Bodie Theone. You can follow Josh’s work over on his substack called New Means. He mostly covers issues of labor but most recently has been writing from a Jewish perspective on the dangers of zionism. “Zionism was the air we breathed. To me it seemed so normal, it was not something we inv…
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DL and Krispin talk about Christian Zionism, The Left Behind Series, Dispensationalism and more! Here's some resources we reference in this episode: Left Behind: From Root to Ripened Fruit by Hank Hanegraaff (the Bible Answer Man). John Darby's "End Times" by Chuck Hamilton Asking, What Would Jesus Read? by Erin Smith You can Join our patreon comam…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E10 titled “What's My Motivation?” We talk a lot about religious trauma, being trained to discount your own experience, and whether people who believe in soul mates tend to be demisexual. Also, who won the bet from the end of last episode? Leave us a voicemail at (503) 912-4130 or send a voice memo to propheticimaginati…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E10 titled “Chidi’s Choice.” We talk about our romantic lives as teenagers and young adults. We also talk more about ethical OCD, and how impactful (and un-detected) it can be. Krispin mentions Task Master DL mentions Good Christian Fun You can learn about ethical soups here. Leave us a voicemail at (503) 912-4130 or se…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E9 titled “...Some Like Me as a Member.” We talk ethical OCD, feeling of shame, attachment styles and more. Krispin & DL mention Messes of Men by mewithoutyou DL mentions Ethical OCD, and here’s a great article on it. Krispin references Becoming Attached by Robert Karen. Diane Poole Heller has an Attachment Quiz you can…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E8 titled “Most Improved Player.” We talk about how systems maintain the status quo, and the ethics of transparency in different contexts. And also, surprisingly, about the MCU a little bit. Krispin mentions the On God’s Campus, a podcast about how religious exemptions have allowed Christian colleges to ban interracial …
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E7 titled “The Eternal Shriek.” We talk about how being polite isn't always the most ethical decision. We also talk about eschatology and how Kant was a a lonely, obsessive hermit with no friends. We use the audio from The Good Place Podcast. Leave us a voicemail at (503) 912-4130 or send a voice memo to propheticimagin…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E6 titled “What We Owe to Each Other.” We talk about the ethics (and exploitation) of promises, the TV show Friends, and much much more! DL mentions the book Refusing Compulsory Sexuality: A Black Asexual Lens on Our Sex-Obsessed Culture by Sherronda J. Brown. Also, here’s the interview with T.M. Scanlon where they ask …
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We're releasing last month's patreon-only episode on the main feed today. We talk about Yancey's book that came out in 2000 that validated doubts, disappointments and insecurities, while urging people to stick it out in Christianity, even if it didn't feel right. Krispin shares about how this book shaped his journey. Together, Krispin & DL reflect …
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Spoilers in the episode! DL and Krispin talk about S1 E5 titled “Category 55 Emergency Doomsday Crisis.” We talk about unjust systems that we call good, how groundbreaking Hamilton was when this episode aired, and more! We use the audio from The Good Place Podcast. Here’s the first episode of the series where we talk about the Adventures in Odyssey…
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DL and Krispin talk about S1 E4 titled “Jason Mendoza.” We talk about self-acceptance, shame, and systems that create hierarchies of who is considered good and bad. And we laugh a lot because of Jason Mendoza. We use the audio from The Good Place Podcast. Krispin mentions Best in Miniature (which unfortunately you only watch in Canada, or with a VP…
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This is the FIRST EPISODE of This Is the Bad Place, a recap podcast of the NBC's Good Place TV show. We’re covering the pilot episode, and talking about ethical conundrums, anxiety about the afterlife, religious trauma, and whether Ted Danson’s character is some form of Billy Graham. DL mentions The Good Place: the Podcast. They also mention How to…
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TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse, psychological abuse, retaliation for abuse allegations. Most of this episode discusses sexual abuse and child pornography. There's a short section 13:55-22:55 that discusses the plan for Christian homeschoolers to go to Washington and republican politics, and also current youtube Christin…
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TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse, psychological abuse, harsh punishment of children), controlling parenting, grooming and sexual abuse. Here's a breakdown of the episode and the topics: 0:00 Introduction, brief non-specific mention on Josh's child pornography charges. 2:00 Discussion of free labor in evangelical spaces 23…
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TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse, emotional neglect, psychological abuse, physical abuse (and violent punishment of children), intimate partner abuse Here's a breakdown of the episode and the topics: 0:00 Introduction, overview of episode, discussion of why traumatized people can be drawn to fundamentalism 9:45 homeschool…
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TW: religious abuse, sexual abuse, family cover-up of abuse This is the first of a four episode series called Too Many Cults, where Krispin and Lindsay Strannigan (from The Holy Ghosting Podcast, and DL’s sister) recap the docuseries Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets on Amazon Prime. We're calling the series Too Many Cults, inspired by the …
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DL & Krispin finish the season discussing tracks "What Have We Become?" "Mind's Eye" and bonus track, "Alas My Love." Join our patreon community to support this podcast and listen to our most recent patreon episode about having a relationship with your evangelical parents while going through a major faith shift -- and learn what our next season wil…
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TW: suicide, abuse Krispin interviews Dr. Mark G. Karris, therapist and author of The Diabolical Trinity: Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self. They talk about “In the Light” by DC Talk. Mark has written other books, including Religious Refugees: (De)Constructing Toward Spiritual and Emotional Healing and…
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Krispin and DL talk about "Like It, Love It, Need It," and what it was like growing up being told that Jesus is answer to all your life's problems. We reference When God Talks Back by T.M. Luhrmann We’d love for you to consider joining our patreon community to support this podcast. You can find us on Twitter and Instagram. A transcript for this epi…
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Krispin and DL interview Grace Baldridge (who performs music under the name Semler). We talk religious trauma and cringe-worthy middle school stories. We reference the songs Toby Mac and Wanna Grab Coffee? by Semler We talk about the book about martyrs title Jesus Freaks, which DL talked with their sisters about a few episodes back. Make sure to ch…
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The movie "Jesus Revolution" has brought the Jesus People Movement on the radar again, and we talk about some of the history, including Lonnie Frisbee, and how Greg Laurie has been re-telling the story of how the Jesus People movement began. Check out the documentary DL suggests about Lonnie Frisbee here. We’d love for you to consider joining our p…
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BUT NOT THE MOST SKIPPABLE EPISODE! Krispin & Kevin Nye discuss "Day by Day" from Jesus Freak, and talk about the heavy weight of daily devotions, perfectionism, and more. Kevin is the author of Grace Can Lead Us Home: A Christian Call to End Homelessness You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram. Krispin mentions Kevin's twitter thread about Gos…
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This episode, DL talks with her two sisters about their memories of Jesus Freak and the culture surrounding it. You can follow Lindsay Strannigan on twitter and instagram - and also check out her podcast, Holy Ghosting. We’d love for you to consider joining our patreon community to support this podcast. You can find us on Twitter and Instagram.…
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Krispin talks to Derrick Scott III about "What If I Stumble?" by DC Talk, and discuss "the single greatest cause of atheism in the world today." Derrick Scott III is the creative producer at Studio Wesley. You can follow him on twitter and his work with Studio Wesley on instagram. In the episode, Krispin mentions a Studio Wesley podcast titled, Que…
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Krispin and DL interview Peter Choi about DC Talk’s song “Colored People.” Peter Choi is the Director of the Center for Faith and Justice (that DL and Krispin are a facilitators for!). Peter's also a historian with a focus on evangelicalism in eighteenth-century North America. During our conversation, Peter recommends Delores Williams, Shoki Coe, J…
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TW: suicide, sexual abuse Krispin and DL talk about "So Help Me God," developmental psychology and about the organization that partnered to produce the books "Jesus Freaks." Check out the sordid history of Voice of the Martyrs on wikipedia. Also on wikipedia, Erik Erikson's psycho-social stages. We have a website—check it out for more information. …
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We talked to Jessie McLaughlin about “So Help Me God.” She shares with us about her experience of growing up Christian, the inner turmoil of taking it very seriously, and how she’s been healing from religious trauma through therapy. We love Jessie’s twitter feed where she talks about recovering from evangelicalism, hilarious day-to-day things, and …
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We took some time to talk about the recent shooting in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Focus on the Family, which is located there. We started this podcast analyzing their kid’s radio show Adventures in Odyssey, and covered a whole series that was specifically anti-LGBTQIA+ back in 2019 - the first episode of our season titled “Beginning to Untie t…
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