Welcome to the safe space of The Aftermath, a podcast that will educate and inspire you. Divorce, family trauma, custody battles, parental alienation and everything that is wrong with families today are the hard topics Dr. G. Mick Smith and Kindra Riber will talk about. Both hosts have been subjected to the harsh reality of broken families and the trauma custody battles elicit. Their stories of losing their children are different yet the same. Smith and Riber are advocates for healing the fa ...
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Professor Ben Hine - Part 3 - Extended Family Support, Legal System and The Future of Parental Alienation
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55:37In this podcast episode, we delve into the second half of the book "Parental Alienation: A Contemporary Guide for Parents, Practitioners, and Policymakers." We explore common mistakes made by parents during divorce that exacerbate parental alienation. The discussion highlights how societal norms and expectations influence these behaviors, often uni…
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Getting Real on Custody Issues with Kindra Riber
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34:30Kindra Riber, your co-host of this podcast, was interviewed by the ladies on Obsessed. This podcast focuses on the real struggle of parents who are alienated from their children during divorce. This has been a Mediacasters Production.
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From Law Enforcement to Family Court: A Journey of Resilience and Advocacy with Tom Flynn
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1:03:32Tom, a law enforcement officer for 27 years, shares his harrowing journey through a brutal divorce filled with false accusations of domestic violence. He unveils a shocking statistic: nearly 1 in 3 law enforcement officers facing divorce encounter such accusations, highlighting the depth of manipulation during family disputes. His narrative delves …
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Be Your Own Lawyer During Your Custody Case with Leslie Alexi
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16:43In this episode of the podcast, we delve into the complex world of family law with Leslie Alexi, a seasoned family law attorney. With over 250 family law trials under her belt, Leslie has extensive experience in navigating the intricacies of post-dissolution custody battles and parental alienation cases. Leslie sheds light on the challenges faced b…
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It's Not About Us: Co-Parenting with Darlene Taylor
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52:31In this insightful podcast, Darlene Taylor shares her journey of co-parenting and the lessons she learned along the way, which she also discusses in her book titled "It's Not About Us: A Co-Parenting Survival Guide to Taking the High Road." Darlene emphasizes that successful co-parenting requires a shift in perspective, where decisions are no longe…
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5 Factor Model on Parent Alienation with Child Psychiatrist, Bill Bernet
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25:55Dr. Bill Burnett and the five-factor model of parental alienation. Dr. Bill Burnett, a seasoned child psychiatrist, shares his extensive experience in dealing with parental alienation, a phenomenon where a child rejects one parent without valid reasons. The five-factor model, comprising contact resistance, previous positive relationship, absence of…
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Gaslighting and Emotional Abuse of Children with Professor Ben Hine
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38:57In this insightful podcast with Professor Ben Hine, an expert in parental alienation and affected personally by parental alienation, shares his personal and professional journey that led to specialization in this challenging field. The discussion covers severe cases initiated by false abuse allegations, leading to legal actions and prolonged child …
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False Allegations of Abuse and Parental Alienation: Navigating the Complexities of Family Dynamics with Professor Ben Hine
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50:27Professor Ben Hine, an expert in parental alienation and affected personally by parental alienation, shares his personal and professional journey that led to specialization in this challenging field. The discussion covers severe cases initiated by false abuse allegations, leading to legal actions and prolonged child separation, influencing a negati…
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Military Veteran, Alienated Mom, Domestic Violence Survivor and Marketing Expert, Rocki, Shares How She has Overcome All
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35:29In this compelling podcast episode, the host interviews a marketing expert with over a decade of experience who shares a remarkable journey of overcoming adversity. The guest, a military veteran, retired in 2018 and transitioned into entrepreneurship to pursue her passion for marketing. She expresses a deep commitment to helping teen girls build a …
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Surviving the Holidays with Mick and Kindra
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26:57Holidays without our children after divorce is hard. But not impossible. Mick and Kindra share some insights on how you can take care of yourself, create new traditions and be the best parent you can be. Divorce is hard. And the aftermath of healing is a space of strength. Hosts, Mick Smith and Kindra Riber, want to make sure you are not alone duri…
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Protecting Yourself and Your Assets during a Divorce with Lisa Zeiderman
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39:58Divorce is hard. And the aftermath of healing is a space of strength. Hosts, Mick Smith and Kindra Riber, want to make sure you are not alone during divorce, parental alienation, and custody battles. They bring real people and real stories to you so you can be equipped to heal yourself, your children and recover from the aftermath of family trauma …
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Helping Children Cope through Divorce with Dr. Michele Finneran, Professional Therapist
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21:22In this episode we discuss: Understanding Parental Alienation Across Age Groups: Impact on children at different age levels during divorce. Challenges with 15-year-old boys: Hormonal and bodily changes. Toddlers and school-age children navigating different household dynamics. Grace period for school-age children, blaming themselves for the divorce.…
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A Man's Resilience - Dave Collier - Suicide and Parental Alienation
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37:51Dave Collier is a best-selling author, international speaker, and youth advocate. I have been fortunate to speak in North America and internationally. My topics have included Intimate Partner Violence, Narcissistic Abuse and Parental Alienation. Having worked with vulnerable youth for many years, ending generational abuse is also a passionate topic…
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He Said She Said: What's upcoming and announcements
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6:55Divorce is hard. And the aftermath of healing is a space of strength. Hosts, Mick Smith and Kindra Riber, want to make sure you are not alone during divorce, parental alienation, and custody battles. They bring real people and real stories to you so you can be equipped to heal yourself, your children and recover from the aftermath of family trauma …
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Megan Hunter from High Conflict Institute Gives Us Tools to Navigate Communication with a Co-Parent
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59:47In this episode, Megan Hunter, CEO & CO-Founder of High Conflict Institute, provides some helpful tools and strategies we can use when communicating with a co-partner. BIFF - Brief, Informative, Friendly and Firm EAR - Empathy, Attention, Respect No response is a response. We don't have to answer right away if we choose to answer. Provide options a…
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Kindra and Mick have met for the first time since they started hosting this podcast a year ago to discuss the top 4 episodes, what they have in common and plans for the future. Join them in this short episode to hear what the trends have been over the past year with legislative change for custody, trends in court and how parental alienation starts.…
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Custodial Interference is a Criminal Offense with Claudia Ovalles
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1:01:27Claudia Ovalles is a retired veteran, alienated Mom and fighting for change legally. Did you know that custodial interference is a criminal offense and can be prosecuted? You as the targeted parent have every right to call the police when your court order has been denied by the other parent. Claudia defines what this means in this mind-blowing epis…
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Children of Divorce with Therapist, Cathy Himlin
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41:03Parental children of divorce is a real thing. Alienation can happen, whether it's planned or not. It’s not as simple as one parent trying to turn a child against the other. It involves a variety of factors that can exist in any given family, including the children’s reactions to their situation. Sadly, parents who struggle with children rejecting t…
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Heidi Dunstan is a grief expert and talks with Mick and Kindra in this episode on how to handle someone going through grief, what to say to them when they are grieving that can be helpful rather than hurt and how to set your own boundaries while grieving. The episode precedes her bLU Talk at Harvard University. Heidi has also spoken at various summ…
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Dr. Amy J.L. Baker Speaks about the Lasting Impact on Children from Parental Alienation
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27:02Dr. Baker is a nationally recognized expert in parental alienation, and parent-child relationships, especially children of divorce, and emotional abuse of children. She has a Ph.D. in developmental psychology from Teachers College of Columbia University. She is the author or co-author of 10 books and over 120 academic articles on topics related to …
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Experiencing Grief after Divorce with Heidi Dunstan
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29:21Heidi Dunstan is a grief expert and talks with Mick and Kindra in this episode about experiencing grief during a divorce, creating a space for grief, and what grief can entail. Plus so much more that we experience everyday, all around us. Heidi shares tips and ways to support yourself and others while grieving with simple, practical ways to grieve …
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Parent-Child Relationships with Dr. Amy J.L. Baker
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34:01Parent-child relationships are so important and especially after divorce. In this episode, we discuss the 17 primary strategies of parental alienation, 5-factor Baker model, the research behind it, how the court system addresses parental alienation and why its not listed in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). Dr. Baker is a nationally reco…
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Parental Alienation Unmasked: David Shubert's Journey
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39:04Esteemed author and advocate David Shubert delves into the heart-wrenching details of Parental Alienation, getting readers to understand, cope and move forward from this painful issue. After experiencing it personally, David has spent years researching and interviewing other parents and finding solutions for families. In this interview with Mick an…
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Changing the Court System with Kortnee Graves Alarcon
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30:43In today's episode, we have the pleasure of exploring the inspiring journey and insights of Kortnee Graves Alarcon. Kortnee is an accomplished individual with a wealth of knowledge and experience in the legal industry as related to divorce and custody. Kortnee's expertise and passion have led her to make a significant impact in her endeavors. As we…
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How Parental Alienation Effects Children with Susan Shofer
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48:10Susan Shofer, a certified divorce coach, due to popular demand returns for an unprecedented third episode and engages in a compelling conversation with Mick and Kindra about the profound impact of parental alienation on children and the crucial steps to support them during their adult years after reunification. In this episode she references the 17…
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Overcoming Stepmom Struggles with Coach, Alicia Krasko
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49:31Allow us to introduce your hosts, Mick Smith and Kindra Riber, who are fervently fighting to put an end to the excruciating pain caused by divorce, parental alienation, custody battles, and the disintegration of families. Their mission is to equip you with the necessary tools to heal and recover from the aftermath of family trauma and drama. In thi…
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The Truth About Divorce and Everything in Between Founder of Cordell and Cordell, Joe Cordell
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How To Divorce in Hollywood Alec Baldwin vs. Kim Bassinger
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26:57In this engaging episode, hosts Kindra Riber and Mick Smith delve into the captivating high conflict custody case of celebrities Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger. Even within the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, divorce and parental alienation cast their dark shadows. Are celebrities spared from the complexities of divorce, custody battles, and parenta…
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The Truth About Parental Alienation with Investigative Reporter, Julie Lokun, from The Mediacasters interviews Mick and Kindra
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39:04What is parental alienation? Today we dive deep and the tables are turned when Kindra and Mick are interviewed by investigative reporter, Julie Lokun. Learn their stories of parental alienation and what they are doing to make a difference. This episode, we switch roles and Julie Lokun interviews Mick and Kindra to explore their stories of parental …
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Discussing Parental Alienation with Mike Todrzak, a Father Who Struggles Daily to reach his child
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1:04:12Mike Todrzak is a songwriter and has dealt with the tragedy of losing his daughter to parental alienation. His gripping, emotional story will touch your heart and how he has turned his tragedy over to God's healing grace. Mike wants other people who are going through this tragedy to know they are not alone. This is evil and we can do something abou…
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Friendships Through Divorce with Elizabeth Duncan-Hawker
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51:13Introduction: Elizabeth Duncan-Hawker is an experienced MBA with a passion for helping families navigate the complexities of divorce and friendship. Her work as an author and executive has given her a deep understanding of the emotional challenges that arise in these situations, and she is dedicated to finding solutions that work for all parties in…
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Healing After Divorce with Krista Hernandez, Wellness Coach
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43:03In this episode, Kindra and Mick interview Krista Hernandez and the focus is healing your body after a divorce. Krista is a health and wellness coach who has struggled with chronic illness and autoimmune disease for many years. She discusses her journey to finding a natural and holistic approach to managing her health, which has included changes to…
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A Parent Who Turned His Mess Into His Message - David Shubert from Colorado
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52:59In this podcast, we explore the story of David Shubert, a parental alienation activist who fights for family, mother's, father's, and children's rights. Shubert shares his personal experience of being a left-behind and alienated parent who spent over 14 years fighting to bring his children back home from Australia to the USA. Frustrated with the fa…
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He Said/She Said: Highlights from speaking with lawyers, Rick and Marcie
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32:14Kindra and Mick share their thoughts on what Marcie and Rick shared with us about navigating divorce and working with attorneys. Learn more about your hosts Mick Smith and Kindra Riber. They are waging the war on ending the pain of divorce, parental alienation, custody battles and the break-up of families. Their purpose is to give you the tools on …
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Mick and Kindra speak with Marcie Patton-Coffman, a Senior Litigation Partner in Ohio and Rick Julius, a Senior Litigation Partner in Pennsylvania. We ask the tough questions. 1) What is the firm's process of engaging an attorney? 2) How are protection orders used in custody situations? 3) Can an attorney intervene when the absconding parent takes …
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Navigating the legal process of divorce with Attorney Marcie Patton-Coffman (Ohio) and Attorney Rick Julius (Pennsylvania)
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24:57Mick and Kindra speak with Marcie Patton-Coffman, a Senior Litigation Partner in Ohio and Rick Julius, a Senior Litigation Partner in Pennsylvania. We ask the tough questions. 1) What is the firm's process of engaging an attorney? 2) How are protection orders used in custody situations? 3) Can an attorney intervene when the absconding parent takes …
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Susan Shofer: How You know it is Parental Alienation- Part 2
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29:32Susan Shofer, a certified divorce coach, talks with Mick and Kindra on how children view parental alienation and how best to support them in their adult years after reunification. Susan is a TedEx speaker, parental alienation specialist, divorce coach, author and more. You can find Susan on Twitter, Instagram and Clubhouse using her name @susanshof…
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He Said/She Said: Reflecting on the highlights from guest, Charlie McCready
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20:38Three main topics are covered after interviewing Charlie in the two episodes: 1. Helping children through Parental Alienation (PA); 2. Reducing damage done through trauma; 3. Restoring personal mental health. The parent manipulates the child to avoid the other parent. The PA syndrome is similar to the Five Stages of Grief by Kubler-Ross: https://ww…
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Susan Shofer: How You know it is Parental Alienation- Part 1
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25:33Susan Shofer, a certified divorce coach, talks with Mick and Kindra on how children view parental alienation and how best to support them in their adult years after reunification. Susan is a TedEx speaker, parental alienation specialist, divorce coach, author and more. You can find Susan on Twitter, Instagram and Clubhouse using her name @susanshof…
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Behind the Scenes: Action Steps You Can Take to Change the Law and Future Custody Battles after Divorces
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15:33How to Contact Your Elected Officials: usa.gov Teresa Harlow wrote a terrific seven-step co-parenting guide for co-parenting and immediate action as a helpful resource for the National Parents Organization. Communicate with Your Co-parent Work on Yourself Mediation Keeps Decision-making in Parents’ Hands Collaborative and Amicable Divorce Processes…
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Helping Your Children and Yourself Cope with the Aftermath of Alienation With Charlie McCready - Part 2
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27:27Charlie McCready, a life coach from London, talks with Mick and Kindra a second time regarding how to help yourself if you are a targeted parent of alienation and how to best serve your children after they have gone through that trauma. The alienated parent is caught in a loop by our unconscious guilt and anxiety. We need to develop conscious think…
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Helping Your Children and Yourself Cope with the Aftermath of Alienation with Charlie McCready - Part 1
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35:45Charlie experienced PA in 2013; his former wife limited contact with his two children. His 9 step program is holistic addressing three points: children, self, and inside the alienator's head. The child is a tool to attack the other parent. We need skills to understand the alienation. We need to focus on the mindset of the child. The alienating pare…
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Mediation in Court with Theresa Agostinelli
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55:21Theresa Agostinelli is an Author, Media, Biz Coach, Corporate Trainer, and JMT Author of The GRID System: The GRID System: Creating More of What's Good in Your Life https://www.amazon.com/GRID-System-Creating-More-Whats/dp/1990801005 Theresa pointed out the difference as a preferred provider due to her experience and expertise in the Court system d…
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Introducing Our Next Guest Professor Teresa Agostinelli
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2:48Hear what our next guest, Theresa Agostinelli, will be speaking about. Besides a professor at Immaculata University, she is an author, speaker, licensed psychotherapist, and coach. Learn more about your hosts Mick Smith and Kindra Riber. They are waging the war on ending the pain of divorce, parental alienation, custody battles and the break-up of …
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Joe Cordell, Co-Founder of his company with his wife, is an attorney in Missouri who represents the largest domestic relations firm in the U.S., with a presence in 42 states, 300 attorneys, and who represents about 96% male clients. Joe maintains dadsdivorce.com, mensdivorce.com, and mensrights.com. There are helpful resources such as a YouTube cha…
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Preview of our next episode with Joe Cordell, Founder of Cordell and Cordell Attorney Firm: Fighting for Men's Rights in a Divorce
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3:09Fighting for fathers’ rights is what motivated Mr. Cordell to become a divorce lawyer for men. “I was galvanized by guys who were my clients and trying to get primary custody of their children. Even though they were the better parent, they still couldn’t get across the finish line in the courts,” Mr. Cordell said. “The more frustrated I became, the…
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He Said/She Said: Parallel Parenting vs. Co-Parenting, What divorce eliminates for the kids
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8:48Join Mick and Kindra as we discuss our conversation with Hope Firsel, life coach and trauma survivor. Hope is a Life Coach who survived infertility, cancer, and divorce. She hired a surrogate mother and is co-parenting after her 18 year marriage ended. Therapy helps us to understand ourselves and therapy can help others. Co-parenting is a business …
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A Perspective from a Life Coach helping Women through Life's Unexpected with Hope Firsel
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31:59Hope Firsel is a Life Coach who survived infertility, cancer, and divorce. She hired a surrogate mother and is co-parenting after her 18 year marriage ended. There are various forms of trauma that negatively impact core pieces of our humanity. Therapy helps us to understand ourselves and therapy can help others. Co-parenting is a business relations…
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He Said/She Said: Healing through the Holidays After Divorce
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22:54Join Kindra and Mick as they share tips and tools to help you cope through the holidays. Learn more about your hosts Mick Smith and Kindra Riber. They are waging the war on ending the pain of divorce, parental alienation, custody battles and the break-up of families. Their purpose is to give you the tools on how to heal in the aftermath of family t…
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He Said/She Said: Waking Up to Real Love After Divorce
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21:01Children of divorce can learn love, compassion, responsibility, accountability, forgiveness, boundaries, kindness, and consideration for others. Counseling is not an automatic panacea but keep at it and persist. There may be lapses. One person can not fix a marriage; it takes two. If you reach a point of no hope then that is the breaking point. Phy…
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