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Passive Income Pilots

Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson

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Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're ...
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A Wiser Retirement®

Wiser Wealth Management

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From retirement strategies to investing tips and financial planning guidance, our goal is to empower you with the knowledge you need to make smart financial decisions. Join us every week as we simplify complex financial topics, share real-life success stories, and guide you on your journey to financial freedom! A Wiser Retirement® Podcast is produced by Wiser Wealth Management, based in Marietta, Georgia. We specialize in Wealth Management and Flat Fee Financial Planning. To learn more about ...
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Host Tait Duryea sits down with Brent Kesler, a seasoned life insurance strategist, to explore how pilots and high-income earners can build wealth by turning whole life insurance into a personal banking system. Brent breaks down the misunderstood "infinite banking" concept and how it can be used for real estate, debt payoff, or high-return lending—…
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Join us for this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast as we explore the U.S. government's growing Bitcoin holdings and the potential creation of an official Bitcoin reserve, a proposal now under legislative review. We also dive into the latest developments in crypto regulation, Sam Bankman-Fried’s unauthorized interview with Tucker Carlson, Binan…
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Join us for this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast, where we explore the latest changes shaping the cryptocurrency market. From the resurgence of meme coins to high-profile hacks and evolving tax regulations, we cover key trends that are influencing how investors, regulators, and global markets interact with digital assets in 2025. Related Pod…
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In this special 100th episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson take listeners behind the scenes of the podcast, sharing how it all started and what goes into creating each episode. They also dive into their personal journeys in aviation, investing, and entrepreneurship. From buying their first rental properties to scaling multi…
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In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson connect with Zach Lemaster to explore the world of turnkey real estate and build-to-rent properties. They discuss the benefits and challenges of owning physical real estate, the tax advantages of rental properties, and how busy professionals can invest without becoming full-time landlords. Zach shares in…
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Curious about the difference between a Roth 401(k) and a Roth IRA? Join us on this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast as we discuss key aspects of retirement planning, the importance of setting clear financial goals, and the distinctions between a Roth 401(k) and a Roth IRA. Discover valuable insights on maximizing your savings, navigating cont…
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In this episode of Passive Income Pilots, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson explore the world of franchise ownership with franchise expert Cliff Nonnenmacher. Cliff brings decades of experience as a franchise consultant and serial entrepreneur, sharing insights into how pilots and professionals can invest in or operate franchises to build wealth. T…
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In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Brian Feroldi, author of Why Does the Stock Market Go Up? to unpack the fundamentals of the stock market and explain strategies tailored for pilots and high-income professionals. Brian demystifies the difference between Roth and traditional 401(k) contributions, shares insights into dividend inve…
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Curious about how to optimize your tax plan for 2025? Join us on this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast as we share key tax moves to make this year. We cover key topics like charitable giving, the SECURE Act 2.0, upcoming legislative changes, monitoring AGI, and optimizing business deductions. Related Podcast Episodes: - Ep 239: How can I redu…
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Dive into the intricacies of Opportunity Zones with this episode of Passive Income Pilots. Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson are joined by CPA Nathan Sosa of Hall CPA, who demystifies Opportunity Zone (OZ) investments and their potential for tax deferral and appreciation. Whether you're an active investor or prefer passive opportunities, learn how …
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Spencer Levy, a leading expert from CBRE, joins Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson to break down the current state of commercial real estate (CRE). He explains how rapid interest rate changes are reshaping the market, highlights key megatrends like reshoring and live-work-play neighborhoods, and offers advice on navigating submarkets. Whether you’re a sea…
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In this action-packed episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Carl Valeri, an airline captain and experienced entrepreneur, to share actionable strategies to balance a flying career with building a passive income. Carl dives into creative ways to start or buy a business, reduce your tax burden, and even transitio…
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In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with John Heimlich, Chief Economist for Airlines for America (A4A), to unpack the challenges and wins shaping the airline industry. From air traffic control staffing shortages to the impact of pilot pay increases and aircraft delivery delays, John shares key insights into the state of U.S. airli…
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In this episode of Passive Income Pilots, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with Gordon Alvord, Alaska Airlines captain and co-founder of Rainier Flight Service. Gordon shares how a 2008 furlough led to creating Washington State’s largest flight school, with over 70 aircraft and a reputation for innovation. Discover how he and his partner used…
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Does holiday stress overshadow the joy of the season? Join us on this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast as we dive into the true cost of holiday spending and its impact on both finances and family dynamics. From uncovering hidden expenses like holiday decorations to embracing simple pleasures such as driving through festive neighborhoods, we’l…
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Tune in to this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast where we discuss how the post-election landscape is shaping the future of cryptocurrency. Casey Smith and Robert Swarthout from Teton Crypto Capital join us to unravel complex policy shifts and market dynamics. We explore the hurdles and timelines facing U.S. cryptocurrency regulation, drawing …
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In this episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back financial expert Timothy Pope to unravel the complexities of retirement strategies for high-income professionals, focusing on the Mega Backdoor Roth. Timothy explains how this powerful tool allows pilots to contribute significantly more to their 401(k) accounts, unlo…
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Tune in to this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast where we explore the best whiskeys to gift in 2024. Discover our top three recommendations for whiskeys in three price ranges: under $50, $50-$100, and over $100. We also share a few thoughtful whiskey-related gift ideas. Whether you're a seasoned connoisseur or just beginning your whiskey jour…
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Welcome back to another episode of Passive Income Pilots! In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson step outside financial strategies to explore the world of real-time flight tracking with Ian Petchenik, Director of Communications at FlightRadar24. Ian shares insights into the app that has become essential for aviation enthusiasts and profession…
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In this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast, we're joined by Missie Beach, CFP®, CDFA®, to discuss the power of generosity and its impact on your finances. Together, we delve into strategies for making charitable giving both tax-efficient and meaningful. Discover how to maximize tax benefits through techniques like donating appreciated securitie…
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Welcome back to another episode of Passive Income Pilots! In this episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson are joined by Erik Oliver, Vice President of Cost Segregation Authority, to dive deep into cost segregation. Erik explains how this tax strategy accelerates real estate depreciation, enabling investors to unlock substantia…
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Discover how to make your investments work smarter, not harder, with tax-efficient strategies. In this episode of A Wiser Retirement® Podcast, we tackle the big questions, like whether Roth conversions make sense for you, especially if you're in a low tax bracket now but anticipate higher income later. We also explore the potential of direct indexi…
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Welcome back to another episode of Passive Income Pilots! In this episode, Tait Duryea hosts Rod Zabriskie and Brenyn McConnell from Money Insights to explore how whole life insurance can be a powerful investment tool. They discuss how pilots and high-income earners can use structured whole life policies to build tax-free growth and take policy loa…
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