Insights into the world of professional services marketing, presented by Frank Lippert and Deirdre Gilmore. The professional services industry is an increasingly competitive one – your firm needs to stand out from the pack, so a marketing strategy can no longer be an afterthought.
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The Rainmaking Podcast will help you to get more business, better business, and all the business from your clients. This podcast is for professional services firms, law firms, and professional sales people. Discover the secrets of the world's leading experts in client development, business development, sales, closing, prospecting, networking, negotiation, influence, motivation, and achievement. www.therainmakingpodcast.com
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Kat Leitner & Ashleigh Metherall zero-in on the day-to-day challenges and opportunities facing small to mid-sized business owners when the reality is, no two days are the same!
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TRP 252: [Legal] Avoiding Landmines in Lateral Partner Moves with Hilary Gerzhoy
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38:57In this inaugural “Legal Tuesday” edition of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love introduces a new series focused specifically on legal professionals, offering expert insight for lawyers navigating complex transitions. Scott speaks with Hilary Gerzhoy, a seasoned ethics lawyer and thought leader on professional responsibility, who shares valuable gui…
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The Practice of Presence: Leadership That Sticks
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40:31Executive presence might sound like a buzzword, but in this episode of the PSM Show, Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth get to the heart of what it really means. They break it down into practical, learnable elements: composure, communication, and appearance. Through honest conversation and real examples, they show how presence is not about being polis…
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TRP 251: The Power of Follow Up for Rainmakers with Jason Levin
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27:42In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jason Levin, business development coach and author of Relationships to Infinity: The Art and Science of Keeping in Touch. The conversation explores the critical role of follow-up in building a sustainable legal practice. Jason outlines how many law firm partners approach client …
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TRP 250: Reinventing Oneself as a Rainmaker with Heidi Brown
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23:30In this milestone 250th episode, Scott Love welcomes back Professor Heidi Brown for a candid conversation on the theme of reinvention. Heidi shares her personal journey of navigating multiple career shifts—from practicing attorney to academic and author—and how those transitions required introspection, courage, and authenticity. Drawing from her ex…
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Award-Winning Leadership: Building Influence Without Losing Yourself
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42:06What does it take to lead with purpose, authenticity, and impact in the AEC industry? In this special episode of The PSM Show, co-host Damien Morris reflects on receiving the 2025 Leonardo Award from SMPS Los Angeles—a prestigious honor recognizing a career built on vision, creativity, and service. Joined by co-host Deirdre Booth, Damien shares the…
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TRP 249: Delegating for Rainmakers with Sarah Tetlow
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28:25In Episode 249 of The Rainmaking Podcast, Scott Love welcomes back productivity strategist and international speaker Sarah Tetlow to discuss the power of effective delegation for rainmakers. Sarah introduces her TORQUE model—Trust, Organized, Repetition, Quality, Understanding, and Eliminate control—as a strategic framework for lawyers and professi…
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TRP 248: Rainmaking on LinkedIn with Justin Nassiri
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27:37In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Justin Nassiri, founder of Executive Presence, about how professionals can use LinkedIn as a high-leverage platform for building relationships and generating new business. Drawing from his experience helping executives create authentic, effective content, Justin explains that Li…
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Mindset Shifts: From Marketing Manager to CMO
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55:14What does it take to move from marketing manager to CMO in the AEC industry? In this episode, we talk with Jennifer Haferbecker, founder of On Your Market Set Go, about the mindset shifts, strategic thinking, and evolving expectations that shape today’s marketing leaders. Jennifer shares how marketing teams can support firm growth, influence busine…
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TRP 247: The Activator Advantage: What Today’s Rainmakers do Differently with Matt Dixon
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30:38In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Matt Dixon—bestselling author of The Challenger Sale and The Jolt Effect—about his latest research and book, The Activator Advantage: What Today’s Rainmakers Do Differently. Based on data from the Rainmaker Genome Project, Matt introduces five rainmaker profiles, highlighting th…
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TRP 246: Lessons Learned From Rainmakers with Steve Fretzin
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25:52In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with returning guest Steve Fretzin—legal business development coach, author, and host of Be That Lawyer—about the core lessons shared in his new book, Be That Lawyer. Steve explains why the book begins with mindfulness and time mastery, stressing that business development success sta…
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Career Anthropology and the Stories We Tell Ourselves
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1:09:11What if your biggest career breakthrough isn’t about a title or a checklist, but about learning to observe and adapt? In this episode, we talk with Joanna Kozłowski, strategist, coach, and founder of Resolute Consulting, about how to take charge of your own growth—even when no one’s handing you the playbook. Joanna shares what it means to become an…
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TRP 245: The Vision of a Rainmaker with Barbara Koenen-Geerdink
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21:33In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Barbara Koenen-Geerdink, former CMO of the largest law firm in the Middle East and co-founder of Boost, about the mindset and vision necessary to become a successful rainmaker. Barbara emphasizes that building a book of business is a long-term journey, best started early in one’…
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TRP 244: Tips For Making a Pitch with Scott Love
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13:56In this solo episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love shares a tactical framework for creating a powerful client pitch by focusing on what truly sets you apart. Drawing from his own experiences in legal recruiting and professional speaking, Scott introduces his “1-3-5” model: one distinct differentiator, three unique attributes, and five …
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Coaching the Coaches: Building Confidence Part 2
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43:38Coaching a team for interviews is about more than polishing presentations. It is about protecting confidence, creating emotional safety, and helping people show up as the best version of themselves. In this episode, Deirdre Booth and Damien Morris dive into how to coach the coaches by training leaders to give feedback that grows people instead of t…
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TRP 243: Image-Building for Rainmakers with Lee Heyward
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23:17In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Lee Heyward, brand strategist and founder of The Prosperous Image, about how law firm leaders can align their external image with their internal values to attract the right clients and create stronger teams. Lee outlines her “Image Mastery System,” which includes five core eleme…
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TRP 242: The Business Development Positioning with Bob Wiesner
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26:20In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Bob Wiesner—author of Winning is Better and partner at The Artemis Partnership—about how professionals can use strategic business development positioning to win more consistently. Known as “The Pitch Doctor,” Bob breaks down his five-part framework for effective positioning: def…
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Winning the Room: Interview Coaching That Connects
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1:07:14Let’s get real—shortlist interviews are high-pressure, high-stakes moments where everything you’ve built—your strategy, story, and team—comes down to one shot. In this episode, Damion Morris and Deirdre Booth unpack what it really takes to show up in the room and deliver. This isn’t a conversation about perfect slide decks or canned responses. It’s…
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TRP 241: The Real A.I. with Dave Sanderson
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27:10In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dave Sanderson—speaker, author, and survivor of the “Miracle on the Hudson”—about how professionals can create powerful business relationships through what he calls the “real AI”: authentic interactions. Drawing from his experience in sales and crisis leadership, Dave introduces…
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TRP 240: Visibility Through Guesting on Podcasts with Jessica Rhodes
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26:10In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jessica Rhodes, founder of Interview Connections, about how professionals can leverage podcast guest appearances to boost visibility, build credibility, and attract more clients. Jessica explains why guesting on podcasts is one of the most scalable, evergreen ways for profession…
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Bold, Scrappy, and On Point featuring Nicole Posten
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43:07In this episode of The PSM Show, Deirdre Booth goes one-on-one with longtime friend and bold brand-builder Nicole Posten, founder and principal of On Point Architecture. Based in Mesa, Arizona, Nicole launched her firm while on maternity leave—baby on one hip, CAD drawings on the screen, and zero interest in playing it safe. Nicole brings the same …
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TRP 239: Law Firm Partner Compensation with Chuck Curtis
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23:24In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Chuck Curtis, legal industry consultant and former director of lateral partner hiring at Pillsbury, about navigating the complexities of law firm partner compensation. With decades of experience at firms like Latham & Watkins and PricewaterhouseCoopers, Chuck shares practical in…
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119: Adventure Awaits: Lori Pittari on Why Traveling is the Ultimate Goal!
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36:31Adventure Awaits: Lori Pittari on Why Traveling is the Ultimate Goal! In this episode, we sit down with Lori Pittari of Cabin Fever Cruise and Travel and her associate Patti Baker to talk all things travel! From the top destinations for 2025 to the benefits of using a travel planner, cruises, and beyond, Lori and Patti share their expert insights t…
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TRP 238: Creating Boundaries for a Thriving Practice with Anna Rappaport
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28:08In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Anna Rappaport, business development strategist and legal industry expert, about how lawyers and professionals can create a sustainable rainmaking strategy. Anna emphasizes that business development isn’t about quick wins—it’s about building long-term habits that generate consis…
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118: Jumping into Junk: Toni Stone on Family, Growth, and Running Toadal Junk Removal!
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51:56In this episode, we’re chatting with Toni Stone, one of the owners of Toadal Junk Removal, about family, business growth, and taking the leap into new ventures. Toni shares the ins and outs of running a family-owned junk removal business with her husband, sister, and sister’s partner, all while balancing the daily grind and leaning on each other fo…
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7 Career Lessons to Fast-Track Your Growth : Feat. Rachel Charlton
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1:00:59Success isn’t just about working hard—it’s about working smart. In this episode, Deirdre Booth sits down with Rachel Charlton, founder of Sticky Communications, to explore seven lessons she wished she had learned sooner in her AEC career. They break down the power of taking initiative, how to lead with purpose, and why understanding the why behind …
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TRP 237: Developing Rainmakers with Hy Pomerance
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25:18In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Hy Pomerance, Chief Talent Officer at Vinson & Elkins, about developing rainmakers within law firms and professional organizations. Hy, a psychologist by training, shares insights on how firms can foster a rainmaking culture from the earliest stages of a lawyer’s career—starting…
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117: Threading the Needle of Storytelling: Chris Gifford on Creativity, Leadership, and Impact
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42:09In this episode, we sit down with Chris Gifford, the creative mastermind behind Thread Pull, where storytelling meets purpose-driven leadership. From his early days as a filmmaking enthusiast to founding a video marketing company ahead of its time, Chris shares how his journey through art, failure, and personal growth led him to craft stories that …
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TRP 236: Pitch Perfect: How to Win the Beauty Contest with Terry Isner
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24:29In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Terry Isner, founder of Jaffe PR, about how professionals can stand out in high-stakes pitch meetings and beauty contests. Terry shares insights on why traditional sales pitches fail and explains that buyers already know a firm’s expertise before the meeting. Instead of focusing…
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116: Let’s Improve it!: Erin Deal on Taking Teamwork to the Next Level!
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46:20In this episode, we’re chatting with Erin Diehl, the mastermind behind improve it!, a professional development company that’s all about laughing, learning, and growing—sometimes at the same time. Erin is a Business Improv Edutainer, Failfluencer, and professional zombie who’s managed to get over 30,000 people to chicken dance (yes, you read that ri…
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Finding Your Why & Trusting the Process: Rethinking Goals for a Meaningful 2025
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53:12Sticking to goals is easy when motivation is high—but what happens when that initial spark fades? In the third installment of our goal-setting series, Deirdre and Damion explore how to stay connected to your goals by digging into the why behind them. They discuss the difference between setting goals for external validation versus personal fulfillme…
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TRP 235: Navigating your Career with Clarity, Courage, and Confidence with Amy Mallow
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22:55In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Amy Malo, professional certified coach, about navigating career transitions with clarity, courage, and confidence. Amy, who has extensive experience in both internal and third-party legal recruiting, shares insights on how professionals can take control of their careers rather t…
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115: Allora All In: Chaos, Coffee, and Kicking Off 2025!
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27:32We’re kicking off our 2025 podcast season with a fun roundtable episode featuring the whole Allora team! We’ll talk about our goals for the year, share our dream podcast guests, and play a game of “This or That.” Tune in for all the laughs and excitement as we dive into what’s ahead for the season—and try not to spill coffee all over the mic while …
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TRP 234: Burnout Prevention for Rainmakers with Charlène Gisèle
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24:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 233: How to Connect at Conferences with Janet Falk
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30:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 232: The Short List with David Ackert
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28:34This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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Becoming vs. Achieving: A New Take on Goal Setting
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44:04In the second episode of our goal-setting series, Deirdre and Damion rethink traditional success by shifting the focus from achievement to transformation. Instead of chasing goals for the sake of external recognition, they explore how goals should serve as stepping stones toward personal growth. They introduce the NICE goal framework as an alternat…
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TRP 231: Building a Book from the Ground Up with Mark C. Fava
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22:37This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 230: Be a Culture Builder with Michael Frino and Katie Desiderio
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26:24This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 229: Getting Results from Training with Bob Silvy
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22:16This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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Season 3: Episode 1 - Rethinking Resolutions: From Hustle to Harmony
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45:59New year, fresh start? Maybe. But let’s face it: the pressure to set ambitious resolutions and overhaul your life on January 1st is overwhelming—and often counterproductive. In this episode, hosts Damion and Deirdre take a deep dive into the mindset shift we all need: moving from hustle culture to a life that’s fulfilling, intentional, and aligned …
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TRP 228: Content is King - A Thought Leader’s Playbook with Stephanie Grober
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23:14This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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Episode 277 - Passing the Torch: Reflections, Lessons, and a New Era for the PSM Show
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29:00This episode marks the transition of longtime co-host Frank Lippert as he steps away to focus on his role as Director of Strategy at Delve Underground. For the past three years, Frank has been a trusted voice for candid, honest conversations about leadership, marketing, and the human side of professional services. His reflections on this journey of…
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TRP 227: Seven Strategy Questions with Scott Love
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10:51Scott Love is the founder of The Attorney Search Group, a legal recruiting firm. His practice focuses on partner transitions and law firm mergers, with specialized expertise in recruiting for global law firms in the areas of corporate, finance, private equity, and related practices. This business experience brings credibility and legitimacy to his …
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TRP 226: Consistent Habits for High Performing Rainmakers with Kyle Smith
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22:49This show is sponsored by Leopard Solutions Legal Intelligence Suite of products, Firmscape, and Leopard BI. Push ahead of the pack with the power of Leopard. For a free demo, visit this link: https://www.leopardsolutions.com/index.php/request-a-demo/ ---------------------------------------- In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Lov…
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TRP 225: Curating Your Career with Dena Lefkowitz
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25:30In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Dena Lefkowitz, executive coach and author of Winning in Your Own Court, about how professionals can develop confidence and overcome self-doubt in business development. Dena explains that many high-achieving professionals struggle with imposter syndrome and hesitation when it co…
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TRP 224: Lessons Learned for Winning Business with Mike Mellor
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22:25In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Mike Mellor, business consultant and sales strategist, about how professionals can build authentic connections to drive long-term business success. Mike explains that building genuine relationships, rather than focusing on transactional sales, is the key to sustainable client de…
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TRP 223: Influence Elevated with Stacey Hanke
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26:25In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Stacey Hanke, author of Influence Redefined, about how professionals can develop lasting influence and credibility in their client interactions. Stacey explains that influence isn’t about a one-time impression—it’s about consistency, trust, and intentional communication. She emp…
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TRP 222: High-Level Relationships with Joff Sharpe
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22:22In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Joff Sharpe, entrepreneur, investor, and author, about how professionals can develop a resilient mindset and strategic thinking to thrive in business development. Joff, who has experience in military leadership, corporate boardrooms, and entrepreneurial ventures, explains that s…
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TRP 221: How to Establish Credibility with a Book with Melanie Herschorn
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21:36In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Melody Herschorn, book coach and author of Make a Big Impact with Your Book, about how professionals can establish authority, credibility, and trust by writing a book. Melody explains that a well-crafted book serves as a powerful tool for personal branding and business developme…
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TRP 220: The Six Pillars to Becoming a Happy Rainmaker with Jen Gillman
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25:49In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Jen Gilman, legal recruiter and advocate for lawyer well-being, about the six pillars to becoming a happy rainmaker. Jen shares insights from her extensive experience working with attorneys and law firms, emphasizing that success in rainmaking doesn’t always equate to happiness.…
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