Let's talk US politics from a progressive Christian perspective. Author and former pastor Desimber Rose, along with progressive theologian Dillon Naber Cruz, are here to make you think - and laugh - about the madness that ensues when we mix faith and politics.
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The Unbelief Podcast is your space to question, explore, and release the beliefs that no longer serve you—or maybe even caused harm. Hosted by Jeremy Steele, the Skeptic Pastor, this podcast dives deep into deconstruction, offering progressive and thoughtful insights on ancient spiritual texts like the Bible. Through interviews with leading scholars and candid conversations with those navigating their own faith journeys, the Unbelief Podcast invites you to rethink, rediscover, and rebuild yo ...
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In-depth conversations that explore the critical issues surrounding faith and spirituality "outside the boxes"... beyond ideologies and institutions. Hosts Mark Dilcom and Kelly Wilson talk with fellow thought leaders in this upbeat, non-judgmental, radically inclusive space. For more information, visit www.radicallovelive.com. [Views expressed here are solely those of the Radical Love Live team and our guests.] Radical Love Live is part of the Quoircast network.
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Amanda Pence PART 2 | Radical Love Live S5E18
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50:31Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us h…
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#048: Trump and Co. vs. Los Angeles, Newsome, and California
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1:10:37Dillon is joined by former host Keith Giles to catch up on the latest in faith and politics. The past week has been wild, with the Trump Administration illegally sending the military in to Los Angeles. Let's get into it and all things Faith, Sanity, and Politics every Thursday @ 8pm EST on The Squad.…
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The Only Gay Kid in Town: A Story of Communally Inflicted Trauma
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1:02:30What happens when the Baptist pastor in your town preaches an entire sermon about you, because you’re the only openly gay kid? Our guest tells the story of being publicly shamed and slowly rebuilding his spiritual life. From Baptist trauma to a surprising homecoming in Judaism, this episode explores what communal harm looks like—and what healing ca…
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Amanda Pence: Understand your hermeneutic (yes, you’re using one right now!) Part 1
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43:42Bible Teacher Amanda Pence wants you to know your hermeneutic—that is, what lens you’re looking through when you read the Bible. There is no perfect “plain reading” of scripture. We all interpret our way through this library, written by many people in various times, places, & situations—& bring much of our own context to the page. Amanda tells us h…
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The Parable of the Mustard Seed: Read It However You Want—That’s the Point
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31:03Universal salvation, anti-authoritarianism, and maybe a warning about neat little spiritual clichés—all from one tiny seed. In this episode, we dig into the parable of the mustard seed and why reading and looking for the truth that presents itself might be the most faithful move you can make. patreon.com/skepticpastor…
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#047: The Big Beautiful Breakup Between Big Babies Trump and Musk
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59:30Dillon & Desimber are back to cover this week in The Twilight Zone we call the United States. Just days after exiting The White House Elon Musk is trashing the "Big Beautiful Bill" and encouraging voters to Fire All Republicans who voted for it... apparently the Billionaire Bros honeymoon is over. Let's get into it and all things Faith, Sanity, and…
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How to Have Relationships with Unaffirming Friends and Family (and when to let them go) Interview with Sharon Roggio Director of 1946 the Movie
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59:06What happens when your evangelical dad reads your diary and finds out you’re a lesbian—and he’s also your pastor? Sharon Roggio, director of 1946: The Movie, tells her story of heartbreak, leaving home, and somehow finding a way back into relationship. We also talk about how “homosexual” ended up in the Bible—and why that mistranslation still haunt…
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Jesus Told a Story About Classism, and We Made It About Hell... It's Not
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37:48We’re not here to scare you with hellfire—we’re here to tell you this parable is about injustice, privilege, and how hard it is to see your own biases. The Rich Man never figured it out. Maybe this episode will help the rest of us do better. patreon.com/skepticpastorBy Quoircast
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#046: Oligarchs, Kleptocrats, and Billionaire Bozos
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1:02:54Tune In for your weekly dose of Faith, Sanity, and Politics with Dillon & Desimber as we tackle another week in News, Religion, and a Nation under the rule of Oligarchs, Kleptocrats, & Billionaire Bozos. The silver lining is at least we can speak freely about it... for now, let's see how our Democracy and First Amendment Rights are holding up live …
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Deconstructing the LGBTQ ‘Clobber Verses’—and Our Own Deconstruction
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51:54It’s the conversation every deconstructing queer (or ally) eventually has: what does the Bible actually say about LGBTQ people? We bring receipts, cultural context, and a healthy amount of side-eye to the verses used to exclude—and flip the script completely. patreon.com/skepticpastorBy Quoircast
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Bruce Epperly: What Would Jesus (not Trump) Do? Part 2
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1:11:34As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to ho…
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Excuses, Entitlement, and Why You Might Get Uninvited
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39:32In the parable of the great banquet, Jesus roasts the self-important by showing what happens when entitled people flake on an invitation: God gives their seats to the outsiders. We dig into the honor/shame culture behind the story, why those excuses were actually public insults, and how the host turns his anger into radical inclusion. This hits har…
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#045: "When the Saints Go Flying In" with Special Guest Joseph Yoo
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1:12:38The God Squad is joined by Special Guest Theologian, Social Media Influencer, and TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR SUPPORTER, Joseph Yoo, Priest & Vicar of Mosaic Episcopal Church of Houston, TX. We'll be discussing his unique approach to the Gospel, how he uses social media to spread the radical message of God's unconditional love, and his book, "When the Saints…
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Altar Calls, Emotional Manipulation, and the Psychology of ‘Come Forward’
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42:14Altar calls aren’t always about salvation—sometimes they’re about control. In this episode, we break down the psychological tactics behind the ‘come forward’ moment, tell our own trauma stories, and ask whether the so-called demon manifestations are actually something else entirely. Spoiler: religious psychosis is real, and so is spiritual abuse. p…
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Bruce Epperly: What Would Jesus (not Trump) Do? PART 1
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43:49As Bruce Epperly regularly writes to the Speaker Mike Johnson , "Please consider what Jesus, not Trump, would do." Using this petition as a starting point, we talk with Epperly, who is a theologian, spiritual guide, pastor, professor, and prolific author, about Christianity and US politics today. Listen as he explains how conservative efforts to ho…
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Why Matthew Probably Didn’t Write Matthew: unlocking the Four Soils and the Mystery of the Kingdom,
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55:57The parable of the four soils isn’t about locking you into ‘good’ or ‘bad’ forever—it’s about staying open to transformation. In this episode, we break down why Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John didn’t actually write those gospels, how the texts share sources but shape different messages, and why wealth and power often show up as the biggest obstacles …
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#044: "Heretic" with Special Guest Catherine Nixey
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1:04:10The God Squad is joined by Special Guest Author & Journalist Catherine Nixey! They dive into her latest book "Heretic: The Many Lives and Deaths of Jesus Christ" which leaps from century to century across continents and eras into little known images and iterations of Christ long forgotten and even deliberately buried to prop up and promote the West…
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The Faith Healing Was Fake—But the Damage Was Real
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48:58This episode gets personal. We share two raw, painful stories of being hurt by faith healers and talk about the long-term spiritual damage that comes from fake supernatural claims. Healing shouldn’t be a performance. And at the end, we drag a few viral Christian TikToks that made us scream into the void—including one truly cringe campus preacher. p…
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Jay Bakker: Fight Better with Each Other (it's the Christian thing to do)
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57:20Bakker is back, and he wants you to argue better! "Can't we all get along?" sounds like one of the most naive questions in the world, but in truth, it's one of the most Christlike things we can do. Our guest Jay Bakker, punk-rock pastor, author, and independent scholar, has long been a champion of arguing well, giving others grace, and also calling…
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The Petty Soap Opera of Herod and Cleopatra — The Parable of the Talents
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36:48Spoiler: The parable of the talents isn’t about investment advice or religious performance—it’s about empire. We follow the messy political history behind the nobleman (ahem, Herod) and explore how Jesus used storytelling to expose and challenge systems of injustice. It’s not a sermon on success—it’s a call to resist. patreon.com/skepticpastor…
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#043: The Weaponization of Judaism against Women, Immigrants, and Democracy with Rabbi Seth Goldstein
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1:11:42Rabbi Seth Goldstein of Temple Beth Hatfiloh in Olympia, WA will be joining The God Squad This Thursday for an in-depth discussion on The Weaponization of Judaism against Women, Immigrants, and Democracy. Christian Nationalists in the government have created a false equivalency between speaking out against the genocide of Palestinians and Anti-Semi…
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Christian music good. Secular music bad. That’s what we were told. But it turns out, that binary cuts us off from art, from emotion, and from understanding who we are. We talk about music, Moana, Black Panther, burning CDs (oops), and how it’s all connected to the evangelical fear of trusting your own heart. Albums that will lead you astray playlis…
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Dr Mark Karris: Healing Religious Trauma and Rediscovering Yourself
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43:08There is a growing awareness of the impact that religious trauma—damaging things we’ve been told, that have been done to us, and that we’ve believed in negative religious environments—can have a lasting affects on our self-esteem, our relationships, and can even get down into our very nervous systems. This is a heartfelt conversation with Dr Mark K…
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#042: The First 100 Days of the Trump Regime
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1:02:00We're 100 Days Into the Trump Regime, are we there yet?! The Squad is back this week with Dillon & Desimber trying to make sense of the world through faith, politics, and a side of sanity. Tune In to hear us break it down the twilight zone marathon that is the United States and tackle the rise of Christian Nationalism in US Politics.…
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We’ve been reading the Prodigal Son all wrong. It’s not just about a ‘bad’ kid and a ‘good’ kid—it’s about two lost sons: one outwardly reckless, one inwardly rotten. We break down greedy older brothers, younger brothers desperate enough to work with pigs, and a God who refuses to leave anyone out of the party, no matter how messed up they are. pat…
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Hell Houses, Fistfights, and Breaking the Cycle for Our Kids
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48:59Step one: convince a 10-year-old she’s actually dead and headed for eternal damnation. Step two: act shocked when she punches a racist in church and bails on the whole thing. Amanda shares her wild church trauma story and what it’s like trying to parent through that pain, building a better, gentler spiritual world for her kids. patreon.com/skepticp…
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Starlette Thomas: The Apocalypse of White Body Supremacy
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53:31On March 10, a demolition crew tore up the pavement of Black Lives Matter Plaza in Washington DC, and Reverend Starlette Thomas was there to bear witness. With this moment of government-ordered erasure as our starting point, we talk with Thomas about the protest and community that happened on that very ground after the killing of George Floyd in 20…
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The Ten Commandments—You’ve Been Reading Them Wrong
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44:33You think the Ten Commandments are about judging everyone else? Wrong. They’re written to you. In this episode, we break down how the commandments are personal, why ‘taking the Lord’s name in vain’ has nothing to do with cussing, and why Sabbath isn’t just ‘a nice idea’—it’s a full-on rebellion against hustle culture. Oh, and yes, it’s ‘don’t murde…
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#041: Deconstruction and Biblical Misconceptions with Professor Scott Baker
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1:10:54We welcome Special Guest Professor Scott Baker, as we dive into common biblical misconceptions, how we counter them, what atonement means from the Episcopalian perspective and how that factors into deconstruction. Of course we gotta touch the hot topics in the news and this weeks' round of politics under the oligarchy. Tune In!…
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If you died tonight, do you know where you’d spend eternity? We open with that classic evangelical guilt-trip and immediately start breaking it down. Gabie and Jeremy deep dive into the biblical non-basis for modern hell, expose how mistranslations (and Dante) created most of what we picture today, and explore how ancient views on punishment were w…
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Melanie Hood-Wilson: They're saying the quiet part out loud about DEI
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47:33What’s so crazy about diversity, equity, and inclusion? We are so glad to welcome back Melanie Hood-Wilson, DEI consultant and educator, to talk about her work and mission in the midst of the current administration’s attacks on programs it calls “Radical and Wasteful.” Melanie is incisive, bold, and clearly lays out the issues we’re facing as Ameri…
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Easter’s Pagan (kind of), Words Change, and the KJV Is Horrible
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38:47We’re talking pagan goddesses, changing language, and why the King James Version is definitely not the most accurate Bible translation. Gabie (our favorite linguist) joins to unpack the pagan origins of the word ‘Easter,’ how meanings shift over time, and why ‘thou shalt not’ doesn’t mean what you think it means anymore. Spoiler: English has evolve…
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#040: Doing the Hard Work of Justice with Dr. Angela Parker and Dr. Chris Davies
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56:34The Squad is Back with a Fabulous Guest Host, none other than THE Rev. Dr. Angela Parker, also known as "The Boozy Bible Scholar", and we are ecstatic to welcome Special Guest, Rev. Dr. Chris S. Davies, a Celtic Spiritualist, Christ-Following, Queer Femme, Beekeeping Liturgist (YES, She's ALL THAT!) AND the Executive Minister of the Southern New En…
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Romans: The Book That’s Been Misused for Centuries
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53:07Ever felt like Romans was used against you? You're not alone. This episode dives into a conversation with Keith Giles and Matthew DiStefano the authors of Reading Romans Right, revealing how a fresh perspective can transform this misunderstood text into a message of hope and inclusion. Reading Romans Right: https://amzn.to/4j6kNOP patreon.com/skept…
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Tamice Spencer-Helms: Experiencing an Unleavened Faith
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1:02:23Tamice Spencer-Helms (they/she) riffs on wisdom. They take us on a vast, universe-spanning theological journey that is rooted in our bodies, our ancestry, and our feet right here on the ground. In the church and in our culture in America, there is something hidden and pervasive, Tamice says, and it will continue to eat at us until we find it, name …
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Why You Keep Making the Same Mistakes—And Why You Can’t Fix Them Alone
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31:50This episode has it all: people whining in circles, Moses burning out, and a surprise intervention from his father-in-law. We talk about how to spot the toxic patterns in your own life, how community can carry you when you can’t do it alone, and why having someone speak the hard truth isn’t mean—it’s holy. patreon.com/skepticpastor…
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#039: White Christian Nationalism with Angela Denker
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1:05:53We are back with a Special Guest! Author, Pastor, and Journalist Angela Denker joins us tonight to discuss her book "Disciples of White Jesus", The Radicalization of American Boyhood. Everywhere you look from social media to the White House, it is clear that there has been a measurable shift toward White Christian Nationalism that is disproportiona…
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Deconstruction, Patriarchy, and the Atheist Boyfriend Who Got It
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45:15It started with one book. One idea: maybe the Bible wasn’t written outside of patriarchy. That thread pulled Gabie’s faith wide open. In this episode, she shares her journey through doubt, the atheist boyfriend who got it more than her evangelical friends, and how she found a new spiritual home in Not Church. If you’re deconstructing, she’s got one…
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Kevin Sweeney: Where Cosmic Christ meets The Concrete Jesus
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54:31For Kevin Sweeney (author, speaker, spiritual director), Christian faith is all about experiencing God, not in having abstract beliefs about God. And the experiences that have kept him a Christian, even after his first dogmatic teachings about the Bible fell by the wayside, have been at the intersection of the great, transcendent, mystical Cosmic C…
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The Wilderness Sucks - Even Moses Needed a Dance Break
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29:25The Israelites just escaped Egypt, and what do they do first? Throw a party. In this episode, we dive into the songs of Moses and Miriam, explore how feasting and celebration are just as spiritual as prayer and fasting, and talk about why you shouldn’t try to do faith alone—especially when the wilderness hits. Oh, and that manna? Might’ve been natu…
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#038: The Trump Tariff Tumble and Reading Romans Right with Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano
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1:02:35The Trump Tariff Tumble is in full effect, and the global markets are reeling with uncertainty. But one thing you can count on is Dillon & Desimber hitting you with your weekly dose of Faith, Sanity, and Politics! Keith Giles and Matthew Distefano, authors of "Reading Romans Right," will be joining us tonight for a theological dive into the Book of…
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The Bible: What It Is, What It Isn’t, and Why Constantine Didn’t Make It
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47:17No, Constantine didn’t choose the books of the Bible. No, the Bible isn’t a culture manual for modern life. And no, you’re not supposed to just read it—you’re supposed to let it read you. In this episode, we get into what the Bible actually is, how it came to be, and how to study it without turning into a fundamentalist meme. patreon.com/skepticpas…
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Dillon Naber Cruz: Speaking truth to "F@$%wittery" for the Kingdom of God
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58:27“The Tattooed Theologian” has something to say about all of it: racism, LGBTQIA bigotry, ecology, capitalism, fundamentalism, Christian nationalism, “F*CKWITTERY” & the questions — and revelations — that drive his work. This week’s conversation with public theologian Dillon Naber Cruz covers the gamut of his musings about theology through the lens …
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#037: Lies, Lies, and More Lies from the Trump Regime
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1:07:20Lies, Lies, and MORE Lies from the Trump Regime this week... Upsets in Ruby Red District Special Elections... and plenty of Fundamental F*ckwittery to go around... let's talk about it!By Desimber Rose, Dillon Naber Cruz
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Matthew Distefano & Keith Giles: Reading Romans Right
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48:44The authors, Matthew Distefano and Keith Giles, are both accomplished writers and teachers in their own right, as well as being the hosts of the popular Heretic Happy Hour podcast. They are also the co-publishers at Quoir Publishing, an author-focused publishing company that publishes work about life, the universe, and everything. They are also the…
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It’s the part of the Exodus story everyone remembers—God parts the sea, the people escape, Pharaoh gets wrecked. But this week, we dig deeper into how that miracle actually happened (spoiler: strong wind all night), why magical thinking screws up our theology, and how to make rituals that help us actually remember the things we learn instead of jus…
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#036: Dismantling the Country One Executive Order at a Time
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1:09:44Ya'll know what time it is... let's get into the latest news and fundamental foolery all around the United States in the age of Donald Trump -- whether it's the Administration's purge of the Department of Education, Erasure of Historical Contributions of People of Color, or the violation of due process and civil rights. Tune in for your weekly dose…
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Leaving Mormonism, Preaching Atheism, and Finding a More Chill Path
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47:38Dan Beecher was this close to spending two years knocking on doors for Mormonism—then he decided he didn’t believe any of it. In this episode, we talk about his journey from devoted Mormon to full-blown atheist, how he became an evangelist for atheism, and why he now chooses to partner with some religious people instead of trying to convince them t…
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Dina Nina Martinez: Can't erase us--Trans people are here & getting stronger
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48:44In the USA right now, every day brings another attack on transgender identities, lives, and existence. We were eager to check in with Dina Nina Martinez--public servant, activist, comedian, queer minster, and so much more--to understand the current crisis from her point of view. Moreso, we wanted to know where she is turning for hope, community, an…
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This Story Is Not a Children’s Lesson—Boils, Hail, and the Final Plague
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45:19Locusts, darkness, and a final plague so brutal it makes everyone uncomfortable—yep, we’re in the deep end of Exodus now. In this episode, we wrestle with plagues 6-10, Pharaoh’s terrible decision-making, and why we love making desperate promises to God they never keep. Plus, a reminder that even in the worst moments, good things can happen—and rej…
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