On Unsupervised Learning we probe the sharpest minds in AI in search for the truth about what’s real today, what will be real in the future and what it all means for businesses and the world. If you’re a builder, researcher or investor navigating the AI world, this podcast will help you deconstruct and understand the most important breakthroughs and see a clearer picture of reality. Follow this show and consider enabling notifications to stay up to date on our latest episodes. Unsupervised L ...
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Startups grow faster and avoid costly mistakes when they learn from those who came before them. In each episode, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member. Tap follow and enable notifications to stay ahead o ...
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The purpose of "FounderStoriez Channel" is to interview Entrepreneurs from around the world to share their story, experience, and wisdom with you so you can learn from them and be inspired.
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The Sourcegraph Podcast is a new show about developer tools and their creators. It can sometimes feel like a full-time job just staying on top of the latest libraries, frameworks, plugins, extensions, CLI tools, and developer apps. We want to help you do that, by giving you a window into the minds of some of the best and brightest people working at the forefront of developer productivity. You'll hear from dev tool company founders, open-source authors, and developer efficiency leaders inside ...
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Inside the VC Game: Conversations with Rising Stars Morgan Gerlak TCV, Jordan Segall Redpoint Ventures, James Green CRV
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44:14Three top-tier rising VCs – Jordan Siegel (RedPoint), James Green (CRV), and Morgan Gerlak (TCV) – pull back the curtain on venture capital. In this candid conversation, these friends and competitors share their journey from career pivots and childhood lessons to competitive deal wins and investment philosophies. Discover how they evaluate founders…
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Ep 68: CEO of Mercor Brendan Foody on Evals Replacing Knowledge Work, AI x Hiring Today & the Future of Data Labeling
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44:03Brendan Foody is the co-founder and CEO of Mercor, a company building the infrastructure for AI-native labor markets. Mercor’s platform is already used by top AI labs to label data, evaluate human and AI candidates, and make performance-driven hiring decisions. They’re operating at the intersection of recruiting, evals, and foundation model develop…
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Rick Smith (CEO, Axon) joined Logan to share the 30-year journey of building a nearly $50B public company behind the TASER, police body cameras, and now AI-powered tools like Draft One. He talks about taking Axon public in the early 2000s, navigating intense public scrutiny, and evolving from a controversial hardware startup into a software and AI …
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Ep 67: Max Junestrand (CEO, Legora) on Differentiating and Pricing AI Apps & How the Legal Industry Will Evolve
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44:09Jacob and Logan sit down with Max Junestrand, founder and CEO of Legora - a rapidly growing legal AI platform (and Redpoint portfolio company). After announcing their Series B last week, Max joined the show to discuss why law is uniquely suited for AI, what it takes to scale an enterprise-ready product across global markets, and a few crazy moments…
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EP 144: Jeffrey Katzenberg & Sujay Jaswa (WndrCo) on What Startup Founders Can Steal From Hollywood
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1:50:37Logan sits down with Jeffrey Katzenberg, Hollywood legend and co-founder of DreamWorks, and Sujay Jaswa, former CFO of Dropbox - together, the duo behind WndrCo. They talk about building enduring companies, bridging tech and media, and what makes a great CEO partnership. The conversation also touches on storytelling as a business superpower and les…
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Ep 66: Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic Sholto Douglas on Claude 4, Next Phase for AI Coding, and the Path to AI Coworkers
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57:45Sholto Douglas, a Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic, joined Unsupervised Learning to break down why coding is the clearest early signal of model progress, how AI agents are already accelerating research, and what it’ll take to unlock real-world breakthroughs in fields like biology and robotics. (0:00) Intro (0:48) Claude 4 (1:30) Capabilities …
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Ep 65: Co-Authors of AI-2027 Daniel Kokotajlo and Thomas Larsen On Their Detailed AI Predictions for the Coming Years
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1:23:27The recent AI 2027 report sparked widespread discussion with its stark warnings about the near-term risks of unaligned AI. Authors @Daniel Kokotajlo (former OpenAI researcher now focused full-time on alignment through his nonprofit, @AI Futures, and one of TIME’s 100 most influential people in AI) and @Thomas Larsen joined the show to unpack their …
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In this episode, Logan is joined by Zach Weinberg (Co-Founder/CEO @ Curie.Bio) and Derek Thompson (writer at The Atlantic) for a candid discussion on the state of U.S. healthcare and scientific progress. They unpack what went right, and wrong, with COVID vaccine policy, the public backlash against mRNA technology, and the ripple effects on trust in…
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Yotam Segev is the co-founder and CEO of Cyera, one of the fastest-growing cybersecurity startups in the world. In this episode, he joins Logan to talk about scaling Cyera from 100 to 550 employees in under two years, what it takes to operate at that speed, and why going slow can actually be riskier. They cover lessons from a tough go-to-market yea…
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Ep 64: GPT 4.1 Lead at OpenAI Michelle Pokrass: RFT Launch, How OpenAI Improves Its Models & the State of AI Agents Today
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47:12In this episode, I sit down with Michelle Pokrass, who leads a research team at OpenAI within post-training focused on improving models for power users: developers using OpenAI models in the API and power users in ChatGPT. We unpack how OpenAI prioritized instruction-following and long context, why evals have a 3-month shelf life, what separates su…
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EP 141 Ben Lamm (Founder & CEO, Colossal Biosciences) On The Breakthroughs Making De-Extinction Actually Possible
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1:25:39Ben Lamm, founder and CEO of Colossal Biosciences, joined the show to talk about the science (and business) of bringing extinct species back to life. Backed by top scientists and investors, Colossal is using advanced gene editing and synthetic biology to recreate animals like the woolly mammoth and dire wolf. Ben walks us through the technology, et…
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Ep 63: Khan Academy Founder/CEO on Salman Khan on Classrooms in 20 years, Rolling out to 1.4M Users & Sal’s Hopes for AI Education
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50:53When Khan Academy launched Khanmigo, Salman Khan thought they might reach 100k users by 2025. Today, they’re at 1.4 million. 🎧 Sal joined us on Unsupervised Learning to talk about AI's role in education— from the vantage point of someone deploying it at scale. As founder of Khan Academy, he’s overseen the rollout of AI tools to over a million teach…
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EP 140: Blake Scholl (Founder and CEO, Boom Supersonic) on Why Supersonic Flight Failed & How Boom is Bringing it Back
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1:35:15Blake Scholl, founder and CEO of Boom Supersonic, is leading the boldest effort in decades to bring back commercial supersonic flight—this time with product-market fit. We talk about what went wrong with the world’s first try at supersonic commercial aircraft (launched in the 70s), why Boeing hasn’t introduced a new plane in over a decade, and how …
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EP 139: Matt Brown (NCAA Expert) on Athlete Pay Drama, Realignment of Power, and Transfer Portal Chaos
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1:49:43College sports are going through massive changes—from athlete pay drama to superconference realignment and transfer portal chaos, not to mention the giant class action lawsuit playing out now. Matt Brown, the publisher behind Extra Points and one of the top experts on the business of college athletics, joined the show to break it all down. We walke…
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Funding Announcement: Anecdotes on Series B Funding, Leadership & Growth | Yair Kuznitsov
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20:24In this episode, we speak with Yair Kuznitsov, CEO and co-founder of Anecdotes. Yair recently led the company through a successful Series B funding round, securing a total of $55 million. Yair provides fascinating insights into the strategic decision to extend Series B rather than rushing to Series C and how Anecdotes is positioned to disrupt the G…
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Ep 62: CEO of Cohere Aidan Gomez on Scaling Limits Emerging, AI Use-cases with PMF & Life After Transformers
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50:44Aidan joined this week’s Unsupervised Learning for a wide-ranging conversation on model architectures, enterprise adoption, and what’s breaking in the foundation model stack. If you’re building or investing in AI infrastructure, Aidan is worth listening to. He co-authored the original Transformer paper, leads one of the most advanced model labs out…
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EP 138: Derek Thompson (Writer, The Atlantic) and Zach Weinberg (Co-founder & CEO, Curie.Bio) Discuss the Tariff Withdrawal and America’s Future
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1:15:48In this episode, Derek Thompson (Writer, The Atlantic) delves into the tumultuous nature of Trump’s trade policies, especially regarding tariffs, and how they impact American manufacturing and global markets. They discuss the constant changes in policy, the resulting uncertainty for industries like automotive and aerospace, and the mismatch between…
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EP 137: Keith Rabois and Zach Weinberg Debate: Are Tariffs a Smart Economic Weapon?
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52:18Debate between Keith Rabois and Zach Weinberg on what tariffs are actually trying to accomplish. One core theme: Tariffs aren’t fully about “bringing back factories,” but rather a negotiation tool to eliminate foreign trade barriers - ultimately aiming to increase free trade, not restrict it. We also got into: - What each of them would do if they w…
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Ep 61: Redpoint’s AI Investors Break Down What Separates Enduring AI Companies from the Hype
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43:28At Redpoint’s annual meeting with investors, Redpoint partners Scott Raney, Alex Bard, Patrick Chase and Jacob Effron shared unfiltered thoughts on some of the most topical questions in AI today, where value will accrue, which industries are best positioned for defensibility at the application layer, and more. (0:00) Intro (0:39) AI Investment Land…
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EP 136: Zach Weinberg (Co-Founder & CEO, Curie.Bio) on The Tariff Trap, Self-Inflicted Recession Risk, and Open AI’s Fundraise
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1:14:03In this freeform episode, Logan sits down with Zach Weinberg (Co-Founder and CEO of Curie.Bio) to break down two of the biggest storylines in tech: tariffs and AI. They banter through the core arguments for and against tariffs, including national security, domestic employment, and negotiation power. Plus, they revisit what’s happened in past trade …
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Ep 60: Swyx and Alessio (Latent Space) on What has PMF Today, Google is Cooking & GPT Wrappers are Winning
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1:01:30To unpack some of the most topical questions in AI, I’m joined by two fellow AI podcasters: Swyx and Alessio Fanelli, co-hosts of the Latent Space podcast. We’ve been wanting to do a cross-over episode for a while and finally made it happen. Swyx brings deep experience from his time at AWS, Temporal, and Airbyte, and is now focused on AI agents and…
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Box CEO Aaron Levie joined the show to share his perspective on how AI is reshaping the enterprise landscape. He shared what his customers are actually thinking about when it comes to AI, the shift from closed to open-source models, and why the biggest opportunities might not be in flashy consumer tools but in workflow automation and data-rich ente…
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Ep 59: OpenAI Product & Eng Leads Nikunj Handa and Steve Coffey on OpenAI’s New Agent Development Tools
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44:37Two weeks ago, OpenAI released its set of tools to help developers build agentic systems. Today on Unsupervised Learning, Nikunj Handa (Product Lead) and Steve Coffey (Eng Lead) answer some of the biggest questions around how developers should be thinking about building in the agentic paradigm in 2025. (0:00) Intro (0:53) OpenAI’s Vision for Consum…
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I Was on the Verge of Death Twice - Tomer Tagrin Cancer Battle & Yotpo Success
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1:03:19In this powerful episode, Tomer Targin CEO of Yotpo, shares his extraordinary journey of surviving stage 4 lymphoma twice while building a successful company. Tomer reveals how cancer transformed his approach to leadership, family, and life itself. Through meditation, gratitude, and unwavering positivity, he turned devastating diagnoses into fuel f…
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After unveiling 45 new product announcements this week, Zoom CEO Eric Yuan joined the show to share how he’s thinking about the future of work. He shared how he prioritizes which features to build, his approach to rebuilding company culture, what he’d do differently if he were starting Zoom today, and much more. (00:00) Intro (01:14) Eric Yuan on Z…
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How Orca Security became a $1B+ Cloud Security Company | Gil Geron CEO Orca
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54:23"The biggest risk isn't failing—it's not pushing yourself far enough." — Gil, CEO of Orca Security In this episode, we dive deep with Gil Geron, CEO & co-founder of Orca Security. With over $600M in funding and a unicorn valuation, Gil reveals the mindset that's disrupting the cloud security landscape. This isn't your typical success story. Gil ope…
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Ep 58: Google Researchers Noam Shazeer and Jack Rae on Scaling Test-time Compute, Reactions to Ilya & AGI
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1:09:28On the latest episode of Unsupervised Learning, Jacob is joined by two of the most influential minds in AI today. 🔹 Noam Shazeer, co-inventor of the Transformer 🔹 Jack Rae, Research Director at DeepMind and one of the leads behind Gemini’s Flash Thinking We got to ask them all of the top-of-mind questions in AI today about where we are, where we’re…
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Ep 133: Flexport CEO Ryan Petersen Breaks Down the Global Impact of Trump’s New Tariffs
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1:18:37As tariff drama continues to heat up, Ryan Petersen, CEO of Flexport (one of the hottest freight forwarders in the world) came on the show to unpack the impact. Ryan also dives deep into the hidden world of US shipping, opportunities for AI automation in logistics, reflections on building Flexport, and some supply chain conspiracy theories. (00:00)…
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Ep 57: Former CTO of Meta Mike Schroepfer on the Path to Powering the AI Revolution
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44:47On today’s Unsupervised Learning, Mike Schroepfer (ex-CTO of Meta and founder of Gigascale Capital) reveals why energy is a key bottleneck holding AI progress back. Mike discusses how we can scale energy production to democratize AI globally and explores AI’s role in climate change. He also reflects on a decade as Meta’s CTO and how AI coding is tr…
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Ep 56: Distinguished Engineer at Waymo Vincent Vanhoucke Unpacks the Breakthroughs and Bottlenecks of Self-Driving
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1:13:01Waymo is an autonomous driving technology company with the mission to be the world's most trusted driver. The company operates a 24/7 public ride-hail service and provides over 150,000 trips each week across San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Austin, making mobility more accessible, sustainable, and safer for everyone. In this week’s episode …
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EP 132: Yamini Rangan (CEO, Hubspot) On Sales and Marketing Frameworks That Win in the Age of AI
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1:15:00Yamini Rangan, CEO of HubSpot (a $40 billion leader in the CRM space) shares how AI is transforming go-to-market strategies, the key lessons Yamini has learned as a first-time CEO, and the sales tactics she’s mastered. She also discusses the challenges of navigating major business pivots, including how companies can successfully transition into AI-…
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Ep 55: Head of Amazon AGI Lab David Luan on DeepSeek’s Significance, What’s Next for Agents & Lessons from OpenAI
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43:49David is an OG in AI who has been at the forefront of many of the major breakthroughs of the past decade. His resume: VP of Engineering at OpenAI, a key contributor to Google Brain, co-founder of Adept, and now leading Amazon’s SF AGI Lab. In this episode we focused on how far test-time compute gets us, the real implications of DeepSeek, what agent…
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EP 131: Andy Price (Artisanal): Executive Hiring Advice from the Founder of Tech’s Top Recruiting Firm
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1:30:48Andy is the founder of Artisanal Ventures and Artisanal Talent, one of Silicon Valley’s top search firms. He’s helped build leadership teams at companies like Databricks, Snowflake, Confluent, Abnormal Security, AcuityMD, and many more. In this episode, he shares… - How founders can differentiate in the talent war today - Maximizing the success rat…
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EP 130: Matt Mullenweg (Co-Founder WordPress): WordPress Controversy, Future of Open Source AI, and Navigating Backlash
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1:04:52The recent controversy between WordPress and WP Engine put Matt Mullenweg (Co-Founder of WordPress, CEO of Automattic) under intense online scrutiny. In our conversation, he shared lessons from the controversy and managing through crisis, as well as this thoughts on the future of open source AI and more. (00:00) Intro (01:17) Controversy with WP En…
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