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Can snorting sugar cure lung diseases? Should you be terrified of IVF? Are people in Japan really having less sex? Join Gid M-K for the sensationalist science podcast, looking at sensationalist media headlines and the science that sits behind them.
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Call It Like I See It

James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana

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Call It Like I See It proves that news and social commentary does not have to be manipulative or sensationalist to be interesting, so join hosts James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana as they take a weekly look at notable news stories, opinion pieces, or products of our culture and break down what they see.
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss what stood out in the new Netflix documentary “America’s Team: the Gambler and His Cowboys,” which focuses on the NFL’s Dallas Cowboys, their dynastic run in the mid-1990s, and the wild cast of characters that defined the organization at that time. America’s Team: the Gambler and His Cowboys (Netflix) Boys Will…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss a couple of the laws from Robert Greene’s bestselling book “The 48 Laws of Power,” particularly looking at the extent to which the laws hold up as society has evolved in the nearly 3 decades since the book was published. The 48 Laws of Power (Bookshop.org)By James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the public reaction to the American Eagle jeans advertising campaign which features Sydney Sweeney and makes a direct play on the word jeans and the idea of genetics, culminating in quote “Sydney Sweeney has great genes.” The guys also consider what it means for the public discourse that stirring up controversy…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana reflect on an interesting point made in Yuval Noah Harari’s book “Nexus,” about the witch hunting era in Europe following the spread of the printing press and how that time shared many of the characteristics we see in our modern, post Internet society. The guys also discuss whether, in light of how things turned out in…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the Washington state law that would require that clergy from any religion to report to authorities any child abuse, including sex abuse or pedophilia, that they learn about, even if they learn about it during a confessional, and discuss the Trump administration’s effort to fight the law in court based on…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the reaction to the death of Hulk Hogan, particularly in light of how popular he was at his height of fame and how he remained in the public eye even after his popularity waned. The guys also consider how the evolution of American culture can be seen through his public life and whether the kind of popularity Ho…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the theory that human languages evolved in order to facilitate gossiping, which was raised in the book, Sapiens, by Yuval Noah Harari, and consider the ways our modern societies may illustrate this theory and also how recent trends may work to undermine how humans have traditionally used gossip to their advanta…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss jury duty, how it fits into American civic life, and consider why so many Americans seem to dread serving on juries, even though jurors are granted so much power. Jury duty is rare, but most Americans see it as part of good citizenship (Pew Research Center) Selected for jury duty? Here’s why this civic service …
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider what the Trump Administration’s efforts to gaslight the public on the Jeffrey Epstein files says about both Donald Trump and his MAGA followers, and discuss why Trump so far is having such a hard time getting his followers to fall in line on this issue. Pam Bondi’s botched handling of the Epstein files (CNN) R…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at some recent research that suggests marijuana use may be connected to some serious health problems, including life threatening cardiovascular issues, and consider whether this means that legalization efforts have been misguided or counterproductive. Smoking weed and consuming THC-laced edibles linked to e…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to Elon Musk’s talk of starting a new political party, the America Party, and consider the reasons why Musk cannot be taken seriously with something like this, and the reasons why Musk has to be taken seriously with something like this. The guys also discuss how third parties have played a key role in many electi…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the recent comments from Superman director James Gunn about how he expects that his Superman movie will be offensive to some because it’s about kindness, particularly in light of the way many studios and creatives have kowtowed to criticism when it was received from certain sectors of the public. James Gunn: So…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to Zohran Mamdani's win in the Democratic Party’s New York City mayoral primary and the political frenzy that it sparked, which included attacks coming not just from members of the Republican Party but also members of Mamdani’s own Democratic Party. The guys also discuss how Mamdani calling himself a Democratic S…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the increasing dominance of private equity in the US economy and what may be contributing to it, and also consider how some approaches that have commonly been favored by private equity, when deployed in more and more areas in the economy, may end up working against the interests of most stakeholders. “We…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss Tunde’s recent business trip to Israel which had him on the ground in Israel when Israel and Iran began exchanging missile attacks. The guys go through what it was like to be in a place when missiles can be seen and felt flying overhead and the perspective on life that you can get when you go to bed knowing mis…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to Disney and Universal, two of the biggest players in Hollywood, going after the generative AI company Midjourney for copyright infringement and consider why they may be taking action now as well as how this move could influence the extent to which generative AI will be held to existing legal standards for copyr…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the debate about trans women participating in women’s sports that seems to pop up fairly regularly, and consider whether there are really two good faith sides to the debate and whether it is likely, or possible, that a consensus among reasonable people can be reached at some point in the future. World Bo…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at some of the more insightful life lessons illustrated by the boy, the Englishman, and the Alchemist himself, in Paulo Coelho’s international bestselling book, “The Alchemist.” "The Alchemist" (paulocoelho.com)By James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider why President Trump has seemingly met some resistance coming from the right, and even from former allies like Elon Musk, in getting his so called “Big Beautiful Bill” through the Republican controlled Congress, especially since the Republican party has for a long time displayed an almost complete fealty to the…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the how the “future” was envisioned in the Back to the Future” movie trilogy, specifically “Back to the Future 2,”and discuss how present times match up with what was imagined in the 1989. Are we living in Back to the Future? Scientists reveal what the cult film got right… and wrong (Daily Mail) One of t…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to reports about the extent to which South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy Mace and her staff have been using things like bot armies, burner accounts and other social media techniques to boost her public profile and perception (and not just while campaigning but also while she has been in office), and consider wheth…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to the super realistic Veo 3 AI video generator that was recently released by Google, and consider whether it’s time to start worrying about the capabilities of AI - and about what it may do to us. The guys also discuss whether the nature of our culture will compel us to continue down this path, even if we know i…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at recent trends in how NBA basketball is being played and consider the concepts like “pace and space” are giving younger teams a leg up on older teams, particularly because the NBA has historically been dominated by veteran teams, not young ones. The guys also consider whether the NBA’s television broadcas…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at a recent analysis from ISeeCars that suggests Tesla’s are the deadliest cars on the road based on the fatalities per mile driven, particularly in light of Gilbert Arenas’s claim that it was a steering wheel malfunction led to his son Alijah’s accident that resulted in Alijah being in a coma for days. Gil…
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Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman joins James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana to discuss his new book, “The Folly of Realism: How the West Deceived Itself About Russia and Betrayed Ukraine” and how over the past few decades, a short term transactional approach to international relationships as opposed to a long term values based approach…
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In this special crossover event with Call It Like I See It podcast and the Disruption Now podcast, Rob Richardson joins James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana to take a look at what’s going on with the manosphere and consider why there is so much focus on masculinity in our culture. The ‘Manosphere’? It’s Planet Earth. (New York Times) What is the Manospher…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the “Die With Zero” rule from hedge fund manager and best-selling author Bill Perkins, which has picked up some steam recently in wealth management and retirement circles, and consider why its goal idea of maximizing experiences lived requires some to overcome not just psychological hurdles but also evol…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider whether American society needs GLP-1 drugs because of the way they work on people’s brains to help them eat less, particularly because the food industry in America apparently has gotten so good at formulating foods that work on people’s brains to make them eat more. The guys also consider why so many people fe…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the recent trend that has some people abandoning the use of sunscreen based on claims that it is not necessary or actually could be bad for your health. Most Sunscreen Isn't Bad For You and Using it Will Help Prevent Skin Cancer (Discover Magazine)By James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at a recent quote from Charles Koch and consider whether in the current moment, we are witnessing a shift in Americans values on things like free markets, and whether the chaos and conflict in our society may be the cause. The guys illustrate the point through at a recent story about a potential executive o…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider why so many Americans so say the care about freedom and free markets embrace sports league drafts, which operate to take away players freedom to choose where to live and work and to negotiate a salary. Is the NFL Draft Illegal? (Sports Lawyers Association)By James Keys, Tunde Ogunlana
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at some of the more intriguing topics in Yanis Varoufakis’ book “Talking to My daughter About the Economy - A Brief History of Capitalism,” which is alternatively titled “How Capitalism Works and How it Fails.” This book, which was first published in 2013, details the rise of market societies and how things…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider the extent to which the framework of the United States government, as expressed in the Constitution, is falling, and how a failure to heed George Washington’s warning is driving it off the cliff (01:52). The guys also react to the new research that suggests that adult humans don’t age linearly but rather have …
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider whether nontraditional economic measures like the brothels spending or beer sales may be able to tell us more about where the economy is going than the stock market (01:02). The guys also look at some new research into a small diet tweak that could match the health and weight loss benefits of intermittent fast…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the ongoing measles outbreak in the southwest United States and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s apparent about face on the importance of the measles vaccine (01:22). The guys also consider whether the rise in caffeine consumption, whether through energy drinks or coffee and tea products, and the deaths that seem to be …
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss a few things that stood out in Martin Gurri’s 2014 book “The Revolt of the Public and the Crisis of Authority in the New Millennium,” which looks at how digital technology has ushered into a new era of information access altered the power balance between the public and elite institutions in societies around the…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to the numbers that suggest that young men are having a tough time holding down romantic relationships, at least relative to historic trends (01:16). The guys also try to make sense of the rise in what look like apologist attitudes and conversations about Hitler and the Nazi’s we have seen recently coming from fi…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the growing consensus that appears to be forming that the Covid-19 virus originated from scientific research and was accidentally released from a lab in Wuhan, China (01:25). The guys also break down the overwhelming evidence that firing employees deemed as low performing doesn’t work boost overall produ…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the ongoing global AI development race and consider in light of its recent development technologies like DeepSeek and Manus, whether China may be poised to overwhelm the US from a capability standpoint. New Chinese AI agent draws DeepSeek comparison (Axios) The west is already losing the AI arms race (Th…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana consider what it means that the US economy continues to become more and more reliant on spending by the top 10% of earners, and discuss how this is the exact opposite of how the US built to largest middle class in the history of the world in the 20th century (01:15). The guys also take a look at the concept of news fat…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to some recent studies into how Ozempic and other GLP-1 type weight loss drugs may be changing not just people’s bodies but also our economy and boosting the GDP (01:21). The guys also consider what the move by the Trump administration to replace Air Force Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. as chairman of the Joint Chiefs…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the Great Migration, the factors that drove it and how this mass redistribution of Black Americans already in the US played such a huge role in the evolution of the country we see it today (01:26). The guys also consider whether pro sports all-star games like the NBA All Star Game and the NFL Pro Bowl have outl…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the Firehose of Falsehood propaganda model that was developed by Russia and discuss how over the last decade, it has influenced many forms of communication and become ubiquitous in social media feeds (01:15). The guys also react to the controversy over the signing of the Black National Anthem, “Lift Ever…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the NFL’s position that its diversity efforts in hiring make the league better, and put this against the backdrop of the current public hostility seen towards DEI policies (01:20). The guys also react to the lawsuit filed by a Detroit woman who claims a Lyft driver refused to give her the ride she because she w…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana break down what is happening with the TikTok ban and immediate reinstatement in the US and take a closer look at the direction things seem to be heading in now. (01:20). The guys also discuss the sentiment that seems to be held by a large segment of the sports watching public that that the National Football League is r…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the criticism artists like Nelly and Snoop Dogg have received for performing at events connected to the Inauguration of President Trump and discuss what people who may not have voted for Trump in November should be expected to do now (01:09). The guys also consider whether you can in fact train yourself …
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to the wild Netflix documentary “Jerry Springer: Fights, Camera, Action” and consider how it may have been just a precursor to what society has become (01:31). The guys also discuss some of the recent efforts by European officials to reign in the Big Tech titans like Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg, and consider wh…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana take a look at the recent settlement related to alleged violations of user’s privacy by Apple’s Siri assistant, as well as the revelation that the Elon Musk shared a massive amount of data collected by the Telsa Cybertruck that exploded on New Years Day and discuss the jarring extend to which our own tech devices are s…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana discuss the revelation that Texas Republican Kay Granger, a member of Congress, has been absent from her job and living in an assisted living facility for dementia patients for the past few months (01:48). The guys also consider the power of online negativity has, which may even extend to being able to reshape our perc…
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James Keys and Tunde Ogunlana react to Drake’s accusations that Universal Music Group and Spotify conspired to illegally boost Kendrick Lamar’s hit song “Not Like Us,” and consider the implication of his claims from a Technofeudalism perspective. (01:29). The guys also consider whether the label “ultra processed” is being used too generally in refe…
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