Welcome to Pay or Quit, the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners who are ready to face the unfiltered truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson brings you a show that goes beyond the polished success stories and dives into the real, messy, and often challenging aspects of business ownership. This podcast is designed for those who sometimes feel alone in their entrepreneurial journey, struggle with imposter syndrome, and find themselves on the brink of burnout. We ...
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Crime happens all around us, so why do some stories make the circuit while others do not? What would you do, if you were surrounded by crime, violence, theft, and poverty? These are everyday situations of many individuals across the globe. Persons of Color are often left out of the conversation when it pertains to true crime, until now. We will discuss everything from gang-violence, black on black crime, dissect infamous cases, and even discuss controversial topics regarding persons of color ...
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Send us a text The dangers of becoming too comfortable in business, warning that complacency can lead to failure. A quick-fire challenge with five crucial questions to determine if your business is on the path to growth or just surviving. Topics include systematizing and delegating, regular price adjustments, focusing on strategic work, taking calc…
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Your Personal Brand Matters to Scale Your Business | Drea Buer
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1:00:13Send us a text Mastering Social Media Branding with Drea Buer: Insights from Respect the Brand In this episode, Shawn welcomes Drea Buer, branding expert and founder of Respect the Brand. Drea shares her journey from various jobs to becoming a successful branding professional. The discussion covers the importance of personal branding, tips on conte…
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Your Business is Worth $0 Until You Fix These 3 Things. Then it becomes irresistible!
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6:19Send us a text Why Your Business Is Worth Nothing Until You Fix These Issues In this episode of the Payer Quit podcast, Shawn Austin Johnson discusses the harsh reality that many businesses are unsellable and essentially valueless until critical issues are addressed. Drawing from personal experience and examples, Shawn outlines three key strategies…
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The Heartbeat of Business Success | Peter Hernandez
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59:54Send us a text Figure this out, and your business will thrive. In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' host Shawn Austin Johnson dives deep into the real challenges of business and relationships with special guest Peter Hernandez, founder of mypmh.com. From discussing the importance of culture and relationships in business to navigating the toughest mome…
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The Most Powerful Wisdom I've Collected Over 12 Years
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19:21Send us a text In this episode of Pay or Quit, I’m sharing the most powerful quotes I’ve collected over 12 years—wisdom that has shaped my journey as an entrepreneur. From legendary leaders to personal insights, these lessons will challenge your mindset, help you navigate risk, and push you toward financial and business success. Don’t just listen—t…
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Send us a text Practical strategies for entrepreneurs to deploy their profits while growing their wealth. Shawn Johnson shares a recent mentoring session he had with a friend who sought his advice on a current financial decision he was facing and his mindsets and strategies needed to achieve financial freedom. He shares insightful anecdotes and act…
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Do you Have to Choose Between Success and Family? | Berenice Brito
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38:59Send us a text Balancing Success: Career, Relationships, and Entrepreneurship with Berenice Brito Shawn Johnson, along with his guest, Berenice Brito, discuss the misconception that success in career and relationships can't coexist. Joined by guest Berenice Brito, a nurse turned coach, they explore overcoming limiting beliefs, the importance of set…
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Transforming Financial Defaults into Intentional Design
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55:15Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Financial Freedom: The Intersection of Entrepreneurship and Personal Growth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of financial education, personal growth, and overcoming a 'happens…
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What It Takes To Be A Millionaire: 3 Principles to Becoming Rich
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39:04Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Mindset and Financial Discipline for Wealth Building A dive into essential principles for building and maintaining wealth. They discuss the importance of reshaping mindset, setting clear financial goals, and the…
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From Pastor to Entrepreneur: I Built a Thriving Business in a New Industry from Scatch | Cody Stovall
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46:41Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Scaling a niche entertainment business in multiple cities: Cody Stovall, a pastor who turned his passion for escape rooms into a thriving business. Cody shares the challenges he faced in opening venues, dealing with famil…
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Helicopter Sales CEO: How Grit Got Me to the TOP Disrupting an Industry | Halsey Schider
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49:50Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Professional Helicopter Pilot to Successful CEO Entrepreneur Halsey Schider shares his journey from being a professional helicopter pilot to founding Sellacopter, a breakout helicopter sales company that is disruptin…
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Are You Making This Fatal Business Error That's Killing Your Business?
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30:53Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Why Small Businesses Fail: The Gritty Truth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson explore the common reasons why small businesses fail, drawing insights from a local restaurant's closure. They discuss the importan…
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Master Delegation: Let Go of Control and See Your Business Scale
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30:44Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Delegation: From Tasks to Leadership In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of effective delegation for entrepreneurs, emphasizing the transition from managing everyday tasks to lea…
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From Helicopter Pilot to Retired at 39 | Shawn Johnson
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39:40Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Shawn Johnson: Financial Freedom, Leadership, and Overcoming Entrepreneurial Challenges Exploring financial freedom, the journey from employee to entrepreneur, and the emotional trials of leadership. Insights on impactful…
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Turning Trails into Triumph: How Courage Will Drive You Further Than Ever | Tony Cline
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36:34Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Redefining Success: Courage, Health, and Financial Wisdom with Tony Cline In this episode, Tony Cline delves into his redefined vision of success, emphasizing peace, morality, and quality of life. He shares his battle wit…
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From Impossible to Achievable: A World Record Mindset | Chad Hymas
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44:47Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Chad Hymas: Transforming Tragedy into Triumph In this thought-provoking episode, Chad Hymas shares his inspirational life story, beginning with a tragic accident that left him with severe disabilities. At the age of 27, a…
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Killing Complacency: From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Mogul | Marty Hofmann
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44:00Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Investing and Beyond In this episode, Marty Hofmann shares his journey from an agricultural upbringing to becoming a serial entrepreneur with ventures in real estate investment and alpa…
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Employee Retention Expert: Exact Formula So Your Employees Never Leave | Clint Pulver
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50:08Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here The Secret to Workforce Retention: Clint Pulver’s ‘I Love it Here’ and the Power of Mentorship In this episode, Clint Pulver, Emmy Award winner, speaker, pilot, and author, discusses his book 'I Love It Here,' which revea…
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S1: E8 Spinning your wheels and can't gain traction. Do This
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27:45Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here The Gritty Truth: Success, Complacency, and Entrepreneurial Struggles In the season finale of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the complex emotions and setbacks that come with both near wins an…
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S1: E7 Asking For Feedback Can Turn Against You?
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49:18Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Strategies for Effective Masterminds and Real Estate Investing In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into the importance of providing feedback and the best ways to share experiences ra…
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S1: E6 B Players Are Toxic in Your Business
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57:50Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into contentious business topics, including the impact of B players in a team, the advantages of value maxing over fee maxing, the importance of bui…
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S1: E5 The Secrets to Building a Championship Team
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26:06Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the essential components of building a championship team in the business world. They start by discussing the foundational elements like m…
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Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Welcome to Pay or Quit, the podcast where Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the real secrets of property management—from landlord-tenant relationships to investment strategies and everything in between. In this …
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S1: E3 The Worst Property Manager, How Fee Maxing Ruined Property Management
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33:31Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here In this episode of the "Pay or Quit" podcast, hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson dive deep into the world of property management. The episode kicks off with a discussion on the critical importance of timing when introduci…
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S1: E2 Navigating the Culture Clash: Mergers, Acquisitions, and the Pain of Integration
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47:00Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Navigating the Complex World of Property Management In this episode of 'Pay or Quit', hosts Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson delve into crucial aspects of property management, emphasizing the importance of proper timing when …
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S1: E1 From Startup to 7-Figure Exit: Scaling A Property Management Empire
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43:43Send us a text To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Launching New Beginnings: A Dive into Business Ventures This podcast episode marks the launch of a new series where the hosts (Tony Cline & Shawn Austin Johnson), two small business veterans, discuss their personal journe…
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Dani and Rae visit three cold cases: Brenda Marie Johnson, a mother who disappeared without a trace in 2016; brothers Derrick Jackson and James Edwards, who were murdered by an intruder likely after their mother in 1990; and 13 year-old Veronica Taylor who was sexually assaulted and brutally murdered in her neighborhood in 1987. Want to know more? …
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CASE 60: Stephen Shawn Austin and Rochelle Thomas-Stubblefield
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36:18Dani and Rae visit two cold cases: Stephen Austin, who has been missing without a trace since 1997, and Rochelle Thomas-Stubblefield, a pregnant student suspected to have been murdered by her boyfriend with no sign of her body since 2015. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc In…
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Continuing with missing persons, Dani presents the case of Asha Degree, a 9 year old who went missing in 2000. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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What Will You Do? started by talking about missing Black people, and we wanted to revisit that and alert you to the case of Danielle Nicole Alexander, who has been missing since October 2005. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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After just over two years, Rae and Dani are here to give you a few updates on the first case they ever covered: Kendrick Johnson. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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In the third and final episode of the Samuel Little series (and the finale of season 3!), Dani walks Rae through Samuel Little's trials before the duo discusses their final thoughts on this case. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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In the second episode of our Sam Little series, Rae discusses as many of his known victims as they possibly could. In turn, they and Dani discuss the survivors, and the focus the media has paid to Little's few white victims. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwyd…
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Today, Dani introduces our listeners to Samuel Little, America's most prolific serial killer. This is the first of three-episode series on the man behind 93 gruesome murders of women across the United States over the span of 30+ years. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Insta…
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30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS HAS ENDED! Today, Dani and Rae join forces to share their thoughts on the series and the things they've learned Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 30 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! We're at the end of the road, people! And to finish us out, Rae shares the story of another serial killer that targeted Detroit: Shelly Andre Brooks. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 29 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Rae scrounges up what little information there is on the perpetrator behind Lansing's Summer of Terror, Matthew "Chilly" Macon. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 28 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS: Today, Dani shocks Rae with the story of Walter Ellis, a man whose life of petty crime turned out to be rife with murder. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 27 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Rae tells Dani all about Paul Durousseau a serial killer who may have begun his bloody career in Germany. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 26 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today Rae tells Dani all about the Carr brothers who were responsible for the Wichita Massacre during the week of December 7-14, 2000. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 25 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani continues to infuriate Rae with the case of Chicago serial killer Hubert Geralds, who terrorized their hometown at the same time as Andre Crawford. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 24 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani sets out to enrage Rae with the story of Chicago serial killer Andre Crawford who hunted in the city's red-light district. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 23 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani tells Rae the story of Eugene Victor Britt, a serial killer who got caught because of his Hardee's uniform. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 22 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS. Today Rae and Dani discuss Ivan Hill an LA thief turned violent serial killer. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 21 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today we bring you the case of Harrison Graham, serial rapist, killer, and necrophile of Philadelphia. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 20 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! We're 2 thirds of the way done, y'all! Today we talk about Anthony McKnight a serial rapist and murderer from Oakland, CA. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 19 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani and Rae reunite and discuss the Sunday Morning Slasher who terrorized Detroit in the 1970s. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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Day 18 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Rae talks about the long, convoluted case of the Grim Sleeper, now known as Lonnie David Franklin Jr., a murderer with a pension for sexual assault who had a 14 year period of dormancy in his nearly two-decades-long career. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @w…
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CASE 42: Ray Joseph Dandridge & Ricky Jovan Gray
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19:31Day 17 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani talks about the case of an uncle-nephew duo who went on a killing spree in Pennsylvania & Virginia in 2006 after one or both of them killed Ricky Gray's wife, Treva. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc…
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Day 16 of 30 DAYS OF SERIAL KILLERS! Today, Dani brings the case of Craig Price, a gang affiliate burglar turned murderer and family annihilator. Want to know more? Want to see for yourself? Visit www.wwydpodcast.com. TikTok: @wwydpodc Twitter: @wwydpodc Instagram: @wwydpodc
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