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Advice from a Call Center Geek is a weekly podcast with a focus on all things call center and contact center. Tom Laird, CEO of 600+ seat award-winning BPO, Expivia Interaction Marketing and Ai auto QA startup OttoQa, ICMI Top 25 Contact Center thought leader discusses topics such as call center operations, hiring, culture, technology, and training while having fun doing it!
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Startup life is brutal.There are so many mistakes.Doing that in the call centre industry is even harder - it's an industry of tight margins, productivity and well-established competition.Join Jimmy Hosang, CEO and Co-Founder at SaaS Startup MOJO-CX©, and his Co-Host, and Senior Solutions Consultant, Paul Banks as they discuss everything from recent events, to SaaS Startup fails and wins, Technology, and contact centre myths and truths.
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Welcome to "Automated Analytics Podcast," the podcast where data meets automation to transform the way businesses make decisions. Join us on a journey through the fascinating world of automated analytics, as we explore cutting-edge technologies, industry trends, and real-world applications that are reshaping the landscape of data-driven decision-making. What is Artificial Intelligence? It refers to the development of computer systems that can perform tasks that typically require human intell ...
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Join us for an insightful conversation as Mark Taylor, CEO of Automated Analytics, sits down with Mark Beavan - a standout marketeer he’s proudly worked with not once, but twice. Known for his strategic thinking and no-nonsense approach to solving real marketing challenges, Mark Beavan shares how he’s leveraged Automated Analytics to eliminate time…
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Welcome Back to Season Two of the Automated Analytics Podcast! We’re kicking things off with a twist! This time, I’m not hosting… I’m the guest! In our brand new studio settings in Doncaster, Jordan Smith takes over the mic to interview me, Mark Taylor - Founder of Automated Analytics. We dive into everything that’s happened over the past 10 months…
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Send us a text This episode sounds as good as it gets — huge thanks to Christopher Irwin-Dudek, VP of Marketing Communications at NICE, for joining me. We dive into a wide-ranging conversation covering: The new leadership vision at NICE and what it means for the future Whether NICE sees itself as a CCaaS platform, an AI powerhouse, or both The evol…
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In a world saturated with synthetic voices and emotionless assistants, Hume AI stands out as a genuine leap forward. Far from being just another text-to-speech (TTS) system, their Octave platform is a new breed: the first speech-language model built on a large language model (LLM), capable of understanding not just the words we write, but the emoti…
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Send us a text Everyone’s rushing to add Auto QA. But most are thinking too small. In this episode, I break down what most platforms get wrong, why scoring calls is just the beginning, and what to look for if you actually want impact, not just another dashboard. Before you build your own or sign a contract, listen to this. It’ll change how you see …
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Send us a text In this episode of the Advice from a Call Center Geek podcast, we unveil our highly anticipated 2025 Geek Gauge CCaaS Rankings. We break down the comprehensive analysis of the top 19 Contact Center as a Service platforms, showing which vendors truly lead the pack in 2025. Using a groundbreaking approach that combines ChatGPT's analyt…
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Send us a text In 2025, outsourcing isn’t just about price, it’s about AI, partnership, tech, and long-term CX strategy. In this episode, Tom Laird breaks down exactly what to look for in a modern contact center outsourcing partner and how to build an RFP that separates real CX tech players from the fluff. From AI expectations and data transparency…
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Send us a text EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Are your post-call surveys actually providing meaningful insights, or just creating a dangerous illusion of customer understanding? In this eye-opening episode of Advice from a Call Center Geek, we tackle the uncomfortable truth about those NPS and CSAT metrics your executive team loves so much. The shocking real…
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Send us a text Traditional contact center metrics like Average Handle Time and Customer Satisfaction scores have served the industry well for decades. But as AI transforms how we serve customers, through virtual agents, agent assistance tools, auto-quality assurance, and intelligent summarization, yesterday's KPIs are no longer enough. In this grou…
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Send us a text Most QA programs score agents but don’t actually develop them—and that’s the problem. In this episode, we break down how to move beyond compliance-based QA and use real call insights to coach smarter, faster, and better. You’ll learn: ✅ Why high QA scores don’t always mean high performance ✅ How to shift from traditional QA to coachi…
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Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode of Advice from a Call Center Geek, we dive deep into one of the most contested questions in customer service technology: Can artificial intelligence truly demonstrate empathy, and how do we meaningfully measure it? While tech companies tout their AI's emotional intelligence capabilities, we'll cut th…
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Send us a text Tired of the AI hype cycle? In this straight-shooting episode, we're diving into what's actually happening with AI in customer experience operations right now. Not what vendors are promising, not what futurists are predicting, but the real deal from someone in the trenches. You'll discover what's genuinely working, what's still smoke…
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Send us a text As we wrap up another year, it's time for our highly anticipated ACG 2025 Predictions Episode! In this special forecast, we'll dive deep into the future of technology and customer experience, sharing valuable insights from the entire Expivia team. What groundbreaking technologies will reshape the CX landscape? How will AI continue to…
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Send us a text (I apologize for the poor audio on this episode, we had a mic failure, but the content is awesome so I hope you still find value!) In this episode of the ACG podcast we explore the future of contact center outsourcing in 2025. We dive into what a modern BPO RFP should include, moving beyond buzzwords like 'white glove service' and 's…
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Send us a text The way contact centers approach Quality Assurance is undergoing a major transformation, and AI is at the heart of it. In this episode, we explore how advanced tools are enabling intent analysis, uncovering customer behavior patterns, and streamlining QA processes to deliver more meaningful insights. Learn how solutions like OttoQa a…
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Send us a text Black Friday and Cyber Monday are almost here, bringing the year's biggest sales rush! For contact centers, this is the Super Bowl of customer service, and preparation is everything. In this episode of ACG, we dive into updated best practices to help your team stay ahead, deliver exceptional customer experiences, and handle the holid…
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Send us a text In this episode of ACG, we explore how small and medium-sized businesses can harness authentic artificial intelligence to transform their contact centers without overspending. With a flood of so-called "AI" products in the market, we help you distinguish genuine solutions from the fakes to ensure you're investing wisely. Learn how fo…
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Send us a text Join me for an exciting episode where I take a deep dive into the heart of my latest book, False Hustle. Many contact centers and CX leaders are unknowingly sabotaging their own success by focusing on misguided efforts to appear productive. In this episode, I’ll be sharing insights on how to break the cycle of false hustle and transf…
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Send us a text In this episode of "Advice from a Call Center Geek," we dive into the challenging world of dealing with angry customers. Discover five powerful, actionable techniques that can transform heated interactions into opportunities for building customer loyalty. Perfect for contact center managers and agents alike, this episode covers: The …
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Send us a text Did you ever ask yourself what the high-end contact centers are doing differently? In this ACGpodcast, we dive deep into the cutting-edge technologies that set elite customer service operations apart from the rest. This is how we are developing our strategic plan for Expivia. From AI-powered chatbots to advanced analytics, we explore…
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Send us a text The contact center industry is evolving, and with that evolution, contact centers of all types are starting to learn valuable lessons. In this episode, we'll dive into how the BPO landscape is changing, what these changes mean for customers, and the latest AI tools you should be asking for in your outsourcing RFPs. Don’t let the titl…
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Send us a text Join us as we dive into the journey of founding and growing OttoQa, a cutting-edge AI-powered Customer Experience (CX) company. In this episode, we'll share our firsthand experiences, lessons learned, and the challenges we faced in building a fully automated QA platform. Discover the strategies and insights that helped us innovate in…
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Send us a text What if you could transform your call center’s efficiency and agent performance overnight? This episode guarantees you’ll walk away with actionable insights on crafting the ultimate QA forms for both voice and chat channels. We’ll guide you on defining the crucial goals for your QA forms, such as enhancing agent performance, ensuring…
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Send us a text In this ACG episode, we dive into the transformative impact of AI on customer service QA. Hosted by Tom Laird, the CEO of Expivia Interaction Marketing Group and OttoQa, this session explores how ChatGPT and Claude 3 enhance call analysis and agent performance monitoring. Discover effective system prompting and its role in refining q…
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Send us a text Are you overwhelmed by the relentless push to overhaul your contact center with AI? Let's clear the air about the real impact of AI in this industry. My recent talks reveal a surprising fact: many companies are not rushing into AI as believed. In reality, few have a detailed plan or have started implementation. Join me in a practical…
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Send us a text Tune into our latest ACG podcast episode, "Will Auto QA Platforms End the Era of Traditional CX Analytics?" where we dive into the world of customer experience analytics. We’ll explore and compare the tools and techniques behind both Auto QA platforms and traditional analytics methods. This friendly chat is packed with insights about…
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Send us a text Join Tom in this insightful podcast episode recorded at the HDI Philly event held at Princeton University. Delve into groundbreaking strategies and cutting-edge technologies, including AI, to revolutionize your service desk operations. Drawing from his leadership at Expivia, where he expanded the team to over 600 professionals, and h…
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Embark on a journey into the heart of innovation with Alastair from Dyno-Rod, whose career trajectory has soared from humble beginnings at British Gas to the strategic heights of managing a franchise. Sit down with us, Mark Taylor, CEO of Automated Analytics, as we unravel the story of how Dyno-Rod's embrace of AI solutions, with a little guidance …
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Prepare to be at the forefront of recruitment innovation with our latest podcast episode where we're joined by Jason Peecook, Vice President of the USA for Automate Analytics. We're peeling back the curtain on Indeed's transformational updates to their job matching system, a move that is set to alter the landscape of how job seekers and employers c…
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Imagine transforming a struggling pizza joint into a culinary empire spanning across seven states. Heather shares precisely that adventure in our latest podcast, as we explore the legacy of RMC, a Pizza Hut franchisee with a 50-year-old bond with the iconic pizza brand. From humble beginnings, led by Hal McCoy Jr., to their current status as a lead…
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Unlock the potential of AI in boosting public sector productivity with Mark Taylor, CEO of Automated Analytics, as we dissect the recent spring budget's tech-forward vision. This episode promises to shed light on the monumental investment of over £100 million in the Allenturing Institute and what it means for the future of our workforce. Join us fo…
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Send us a text Dive into the transformative journey of OttoQa, where we've uncovered the profound impact of prompts in elevating customer experience (CX) quality assurance (QA) processes. This podcast (taken from a Linkedin Live Event) brings the insights and methodologies from our extensive experience directly to you, focusing on the art and scien…
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Unlock the secrets to a smarter hiring strategy as we sit down with Kristina Gansser from Fourth, the trailblazer in hospitality software solutions. Experience the insider's view on how the world of Automated Analytics is supercharging the applicant tracking game. Discover Kristina's firsthand insights on the challenges and victories in cultivating…
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Send us a text This podcast is based on the presentation I delivered in Miami at the "CX Under the Sun Event" to more than 100 CX professionals who are just beginning their journey with CX AI transformation. During the presentation, I share my views on what is considered "real" regarding AI in the current market, what to be cautious about, and how …
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Send us a text As we step into 2024, the realms of Customer Experience (CX), Artificial Intelligence (AI), and contact centers are poised at the brink of transformative change. Let's explore the exciting, realistic predictions that are shaping the future of these industries. These are part prediction and part wish list for what I would like 2024 to…
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Send us a text Join me, Tom Laird, and John Coulter from Five Star Call Centers, as we journey into a conversation on "Advice from a Call Center Geek." 🔍 Key Highlights: 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰/𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 𝗢𝘂𝘁𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸: What does the horizon look like for contact centers in the next two years? We're discussing trends, challenges, and opportunities that await! 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆 & 𝗥𝗢𝗜: W…
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Send us a text This podcast episode of "Advice from a Call Center Geek", titled "AI Tools in CX: The Truth about ROI," delves into the practical aspects and return on investment (ROI) of AI technologies in the context of contact centers. It critically examines various AI tools like large language model chatbots, analytics, agent assist, and auto qu…
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Send us a text Welcome back to "Advice from a Call Center Geek," the podcast dedicated to enhancing your contact center operations! In today's episode, we dive into the often confusing world of technology for small contact centers. With the holiday season approaching and AI becoming a buzzword, we aim to clarify and simplify your tech choices. Key …
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Send us a text In this episode of "Advice from a Call Center Geek," we jump into expert tips for setting up a successful contact center, drawing from our experiences at Expivia. Learn about optimal team structures, effective management ratios, and strategies that foster efficiency and customer satisfaction. This episode is a treasure trove for anyo…
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Send us a text In this episode of "Advice from a Call Center Geek," we dive into a topic that's known for stirring up plenty of debates and strong feelings: CcaaS platforms. I'm eager to offer my perspective on what's happening in the world of these providers right now. We'll explore the various aspects that make this topic so controversial and why…
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Send us a text Imagine navigating the rapid changes in the Business Process Outsourcing (BPO) industry with the help of Artificial Intelligence (AI). How do BPOs need to adapt and evolve to stay competitive in this AI-driven landscape? That's what we're discussing in this enlightening episode, drawing insights from a seminar at the Google campus an…
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Send us a text This episode is less theory and more "What you need to do!" This audio recording is from the LinkedIn Audio Event we hosted on Friday, November 3, 2023. It's an in-depth discussion that covers all the preliminary steps you should consider before embarking on your journey into Artificial Intelligence. We also explore the various tools…
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Send us a text 𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙍𝙤𝙤𝙢 𝙒𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙚 𝙄𝙩 𝙃𝙖𝙥𝙥𝙚𝙣𝙚𝙙" NICE's remarkable team flew Tom to New Jersey at the White Eagle Hall, to step into "The Room Where It Happened," their exclusive video series that casts a spotlight on the pulse and prospects of Customer Experience (CX). There, Tom's own audio narrative brought to life what we regard as one of our most co…
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Send us a text In this episode of Advice from a Call Center Geek, we take you into the keynote speech that Tom gave at the Google Complex in Boulder Colorado to a group of contact center outsourcing company leaders which was sponsored by NICE, Google, and Outsource Consultants. We've transitioned Expivia from just being a "contact center outsourcer…
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Send us a text Ready for a peek into the AI-driven future of contact centers? Dive in with our special guest, Robbert Dijkstra of Deepdesk. Discover how AI transforms both the agent and customer experience in digital mediums like chat. Robbert shares how automation not only boosts productivity but also reduces repetitive tasks for agents. Grasp the…
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Send us a text Here is a quick min-pod on some initial thoughts on the 350 million dollar purchase of LiveVox by NICE. This is essentially a union of two firms where one's strengths balance out the other's limitations. The Cxone Dialer is mediocre, and certainly not a standout in the industry, whereas CXone continues to be the industry front-runner…
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Send us a text Ready to transform crisis into opportunity? In this episode, we promise to arm you with practical strategies and cutting-edge tools to navigate the choppy waters of crisis management in contact centers. We use our insights and experiences to illuminate the potential of modern Customer Experience tools to mitigate such crises. With ou…
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Send us a text Ready to unlock the secrets of automated QA in your contact center? This episode is brimming with insights about using chatGPT to revolutionize your QA, promising to transform how you approach your work. We walk side by side with you, through the labyrinth of user accounts and databases, right up to crafting prompts for a form from a…
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Send us a text Dive into our mini podcast on our new value add OttoQA! Discover how we're reshaping the landscape of QA for call centers with fewer than 50 agents. Say goodbye to spreadsheet hassles and embrace AI-driven efficiency. Plus, find out how you can become an integral part of our journey as an Alpha and Beta partner. Don't miss this quick…
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