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Dads And Daddies

Brian Rubin-Sowers and Judson Morrow

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Dads and Daddies features frank, unrehearsed conversations between one Gen X Dad of two and one Millennial self-identified ‘Daddy,’ with a focus on their personal stories of sex, love and marriage, plus topics spanning parenthood, Daddyhood, family, friendship, identity, money, addiction & recovery, and so many more that reveal the deeply intimate details of what it means to live life as adult gay men today.
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Credo Podcast

Matthew Barrett

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Welcome to the Credo Podcast where doctrine matters. Eavesdrop on conversations between Matthew Barrett and top theologians about the most pressing and important theological issues today.
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Comparing their week on the apps, Judson laments an aborted mission, and Brian comes up against ageism. Brian shares a glowing review for the Broadway play, “John Proctor is the Villain.” The two then welcome to the podcast Nathan H. Lents, author of The Sexual Evolution: How 500 million years of sex, gender, and mating shape modern relationships. …
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It’s Dads and Daddies’ 50th Episode! To celebrate, Judson and Brian dedicate this week’s episode to the listeners by responding to FIVE Go Ask Your Dad questions! Ranging from a listener struggling with a toxic friends-with-benefits situation to one who wants help being verbal in bed, to another who wants to ensure his partner’s first hookup outsid…
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Judson shares a moment of pride felt as a Daddy for a Son. Brian reflects on four weeks without sex outside of his marriage. The two discuss feedback from a listener who feels that they prescribe open relationships as being right for everyone and doesn’t agree. They then begin preparations for summer by going deep into the anxiety brought on by vac…
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Judson tells Brian about his first week back at work, which wasn’t without its shocking moments. The two then recount their double date at the new Broadway musical they both loved, Just In Time, starring Jonathan Groff as Bobby Darin and co-authored by previous Dads and Daddies guest Isaac Oliver. Judson and Brian then welcome Sex & Intimacy Coach,…
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Judson comes to the end of his sabbatical and reflects on everything it has brought him, including a significant amount of sex over the past week. Brian recounts the night he took his family to Kylie Minogue’s first-ever concert at Madison Square Garden. The two are then joined by Carson McCalley and Jack Dodge, hosts of the YouTube series and podc…
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Judson and Brian return to The Cockpit downstairs at Daniel Nardicio’s Redeye NY for their second live show! Having just reunited with Judson after three weeks apart, Brian regales him with stories he’s been waiting to share about his daughter hearing him and his husband having sex, his struggles using AI to help navigate a Grindr conversation, and…
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Judson and Brian are reunited after Judson returns from three weeks of globetrotting with his husband. He recounts highlights of his restorative trip to Sri Lanka, plus a sexy 36-hour layover in Istanbul. Brian happily reports on his recent stress reduction, having survived a dreaded business trip and having come to the annual end of his seasonal b…
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Recorded last September, Judson and Brian share some unusual propositions they’ve each received on the apps before delving into a discussion of the lost art of cruising. They delineate the steps to proper cruising, reminisce about cruising successes and fails they’ve experienced over the years, and make a case for bringing cruising back in the curr…
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Recorded last May, Judson and Brian share the details of their travel over Memorial Day Weekend ‘24 - Judson to Austin for a weekend of naked yoga, where he performed a stand-up set and met his spirit animal, and Brian to London for a celebration of his tenth wedding anniversary, where he and his husband saw a number of shows and enjoyed a playdate…
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Judson shares learnings from time spent with his 95 year-old father-in-law, and checks in on Brian’s stress-induced vision impairment to ensure he’s addressing it with the proper amount of self-care. The two then enter into a discussion about affection–what constitutes affection, how important it is to each, and how it manifests in their relationsh…
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Judson helps Brian turn his frown upside down by making him reframe how he looks back on the past week, and challenges Brian to think about managing his stress with lessons about the mind-body connection Judson has taken from the works of Gabor Mate. The two then welcome the brilliant and hysterical actor and comedian Jeff Hiller, co-star of HBO’s …
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Judson puts a label on his relationship with Brian and reports on his experience Daddying a third alongside his husband. Brian recounts a magical night attending Jinkx Monsoon’s Carnegie Hall debut and shares the highlights of his family’s trip to Puerto Rico over the midwinter break. The two then examine how vanity manifests for so much of the gay…
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Judson and Brian compare Valentine’s Day plans and reflect on their first Valentine’s Day dinners with their now-husbands. They then share the news about their second live show and first Dads and Daddies party on Friday, March 28, at the Cockpit in Hell’s Kitchen, New York City. Judson recounts an emotional week at work, having survived a significa…
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Judson and Brian compare how they are attempting to find balance and peace in unsteady times and provide updates about how they were each happily surprised this week by some unexpected playtime. Brian talks about time spent with his kids before getting on his soapbox about the unrealistic expectations for parents set by the cartoon show "Bluey." Th…
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Brian and Judson compare notes: first, on masturbation–how frequently they do it, why they do it, and when–and, second, on how frustrating the logistics of hookups can be, particularly if they take place in New Jersey. Brian then looks to Judson for guidance on making hookups happen that include his husband, and what ‘playing together’ looks like i…
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Judson recounts a perplexing dream, and Brian shares news of his renewed sexual activity. They gush over the return of "Severance" before welcoming "Big Brother" icon Will Wikle, whose diverse career spans mainstream entertainment, sex work, and now psychiatry, having opened his own practice, Peace Park Psychiatry. Will regales them with a series o…
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Brian recounts his first week of recovery from his lower eyelid surgery and hears Judson’s perspective on their trip to Sephora with Brian’s kids. Judson shares a lovely Daddy/Son experience and talks about how he navigates some of the challenges of a corporate job. The two then talk kissing–from their first kisses to practicing on their pillows to…
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Brian’s nine year-old asks the big question. Judson spreads the word about the Instagram purchase that has changed his life. The two chat about some of the latest TV they’re obsessing over. Judson and Brian then dive deep into an exploration of intimacy–with their husbands, with their friends and with their hookups.This week’s episode ends with a G…
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Brian celebrates his first rave review on The Blowers, and Judson details his experience of the “Solid Gold” exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum. The two then welcome to the podcast the inimitable JIMBO the Drag Clown, winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race All-Stars Season 8 and current star of Drag the Musical off-Broadway. JIMBO talks about his journey from be…
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Happy Birthday to Judson! After a mini birthday party for everyone’s favorite Daddy, Judson and Brian also celebrate the 13th anniversary of Brian’s first date with his now-husband and the first anniversary of the text exchange between Judson and Brian that resulted in this podcast. The two compare notes on their New Year’s Day polar plunge experie…
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Judson laments having missed an opportunity to have a chance encounter with Luigi Mangione. Brian reflects on the past year and how it has changed him and his relationship. The two are then joined by adult content creator Guy Woof. Guy talks to Judson and Brian about his crush on John Oliver, his transition from locksmith to porn performer, the bus…
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Judson tells Brian about the night he invited a hookup to stay for dinner, and how it evolved into a beautiful sharing of grief. Brian shares a story about a hookup that went against most of his own rules, in what he views as a culmination of a year of learnings from Judson. They are then joined by award-winning porn actor and social media star Jon…
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Recorded on December 13, it’s Brian’s birthday! Brian describes his plans to celebrate, which exhausts Judson just by hearing them listed out. Judson shares a glowing review for Ricardo Tavares’ bathhouse-based “Morning Glory” sex party, which led to one of Judson’s top 3 hookups of 2024. The two compare stories of “setting traps” on the apps. They…
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Judson and Brian commiserate over sudden end-of-year demands at work and compare notes on the time they will spend with family over the holidays, including how they each set (or try to set) the necessary boundaries. Judson then educates Brian on the concept of “fraysexuality” before welcoming writer, performer, curator and creator/host of the podca…
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Judson and Brian catch up on the Thanksgiving preparations in Brian’s home, compare family rules to keep Sondheim out of Sundays and show tunes away from the dinner table, and recap their experiences recording their first live show. They then discuss the various iterations of family in their lives - the biological families they grew up with, their …
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It’s Judson and Brian’s first live show! Recorded at The Cockpit downstairs at Daniel Nardicio’s Redeye NY, a towel-clad Judson and Brian chat about Judson’s 7th anniversary off crystal meth, Brian’s elder daughter’s 9th birthday party, and reviews of Anora, Wicked, and the Broadway musical version of Death Becomes Her before welcoming one of the m…
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Judson and Brian alternately celebrate and lament the actual arrival of fall as Brian prepares for the coming season of birthdays and holidays in his household, including a fashion show-themed slumber party for his 9-year-old, and Judson prepares for his father’s celebration of life. They then dive deep into an exploration of the ins, outs, highs, …
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Judson and Brian recap their initial reactions to the election results, including Brian’s escape to the new Broadway musical Maybe Happy Ending and the new movie A Real Pain. Judson shares the music, TV show, and book getting him through the week. They then move into a deeper exploration of Self-Care. They discuss what Self-Care means and looks lik…
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Recorded this past March (don’t worry, Judson is back on the apps by now), Judson and Brian chat about taking fashion cues from younger generations, making sex efficient, parents’ influence over their kids’ tastes, and go deep into the myth that gay men with money are entirely self made. They explore how each approaches financial responsibilities a…
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Judson shares some very personal news before moving into a recap of his recent trip to Las Vegas. Judson and Brian are then joined by award-winning playwright, author and performer Isaac Oliver. Isaac gives the two a sneak peek into his exciting projects–the upcoming Broadway musical ‘Just In Time’ starring Jonathan Groff, for which he’s co-writing…
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Judson and Brian compare their pop diva icons and share their review of the super fun DRAG: The Musical. Judson prepares to be best man at his brother’s Las Vegas wedding and Brian may have met his match when it comes to prioritizing kissing. The two then go deep into the subject of group sex – the logistics of making it happen, how to make sure ea…
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Inspired by the change of seasons and the approach of the winter holidays, Judson and Brian chat about Jewish Christmas Envy and Judson’s penchant for making matzo balls. They then celebrate Judson’s wedding anniversary and National Coming Out Day by sharing their stories about how they each came out to their parents. They close with a Go Ask Your …
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Judson celebrates his patriotism and then elaborates on three curious text messages he sent Brian over the course of the week. Brian tells Judson about taking his family to Council Bluffs, Iowa, to see Chappell Roan in concert. The two are then joined by the amazing Molly Roden Winter, New York Times bestselling author of More: A Memoir of Open Mar…
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Judson counsels Brian on his continuing saga of the hookup that just won’t happen. The two are then joined by Dr. Israel Martinez, author of the new book, “Enhancing Pleasure for Gay Men: A Clinical Guide for Healing and Acceptance Through Better Sex.” Israel talks to Judson and Brian about shame and validation, the concept of Responsive Arousal, h…
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Judson analyzes his recent ambivalence about sex and reveals he’s having a “Bottom Autumn.” Brian shares his daughter’s follow-up questions on the sex talk and comes clean about why he may have sounded so jealous on the recent Jealousy episode. The two then compare how they each answer the age-old question asked on the apps, “Into?,” and dive into …
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