Welcome to The Gray Divorce Podcast. Join Divorce Financial Advisor and Retirement Planning Counsellor Andrew Hatherley and guest experts as they help late life divorcees build the financial foundation for a meaningful life after divorce. There is life after divorce!
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This is the place where tech workers come to get smarter about their money. Hosted by CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™, speaker, blogger, and self-proclaimed personal finance nerd Malcolm Ethridge, this show seeks to shake up the traditional approach to personal finance and make concepts such as investing, tax planning, real estate, cryptocurrency, insurance, equity compensation and other executive benefits more accessible to the tech community. Once referred to as the "Stuart Scott of personal ...
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Strengthening Your Mindset for Growth with Nicole Comis
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41:00Andrew is joined by Certified life and mindset coach Nicole Comis. Nicole partners with her clients to break through unconscious patterns, strengthen their mindset, and build the clarity, confidence, and courage to go after what they truly want. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Pleas…
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Gray Divorce meets Silver Divorce with Lisa McCluskey
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36:00Andrew chats with Lisa McCluskey, host of The Silver Divorce Podcast, who talks about her personal journey through divorce after retirement and how it inspired her to launch a platform to support others navigating mid-to-late life divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visi…
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Stock Market Volatility and a Free Book Offer!
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16:17Andrew dives into the recent volatility we’ve seen in the stock market—and how that kind of financial uncertainty can affect those of you going through mid-late-life divorce. He also announces a drawing for a free copy of the new book Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the…
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How can horses help you get through divorce? Learn all about equine facilitated therapy in my chat with Kim Smith LMFT. We discuss examples of the incredible impact horses can have in treating emotional issues. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wis…
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Retirement is an Inside Job with Suzanne Campi
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34:35Divorce represents a major life transition, and when it coincides with retirement, it presents unique challenges and opportunities. In this episode, Andrew sits down with life transitions coach Suzanne Campi to discuss how to navigate retirement successfully. With a background in psychology, Suzanne emphasizes the importance of a holistic approach …
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The Book on Amicable Divorce with Tracy Ann Moore - Grant
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27:53Tracy Ann Moore Grant, founder of the amicable divorce network, returns to the podcast to talk about the publication of her new book Divorce Amicably: Your Roadmap to Resolution. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow And…
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Divorce can be difficult enough in the simplest of situations. But imagine that you live overseas, and you've decided to get divorced. Imagine the added stress of dealing with divorce in a different culture with a different language and different laws. This episode’s guest, Chloe Oudiz, is a divorce and separation coach who specializes in working w…
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Dating after Gray Divorce with Bela Ghandi
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36:35In a special Valentine's Day episode of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew interviews nationally acclaimed dating coach Bela Gandhi. Bela discusses the work she does with gray divorcees, coaching them through the dating process. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend R…
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When to Say No - Setting Boundaries in Divorce with Tracy Gould Sheinin
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35:31Do you know when to say no? Are you a people pleaser who would rather defer to someone else's wishes just to get along? In this episode Andrew talks to Tracy Gould Sheinin, a specialist on setting boundaries. Andrew and Tracy dig into the importance of setting boundaries before, during and after divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful …
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Blue Zones, Ikigai and a Long, Happy Life
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22:27What can a small town called Ogimi on the north end of Okinawa in Japan teach us about living a happy life after gray divorce? What can a mountain village in Sardinia teach us about staying fit? In episode 59 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Divorce financial planner Andrew Hatherley examines 5 Blue Zone communities which seem to have found the secret …
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The Mediation Experience with Attorney Amber Robinson
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42:20In this episode Andrew discusses the inner workings of a mediation session with family law attorney Amber Robinson. Having served as a financial neutral mediator in several mediations with Amber and her clients and other attorneys and their clients, the discussion details what a mediation looks like from the introductory meeting to drawing up the s…
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Dealing with Family and the Holidays with Kathleen Shack, LMFT
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26:42Andrew chats with Kathleen Shack, a marriage and family therapist and divorce coach. They discuss the unique challenges of dealing with gray divorce and families over the holidays. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow A…
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In episode 56 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew discusses the role of the Divorce Chief Financial Officer (or Divorce CFO) in your divorce. While divorce may be a legal process, it’s really about money. Listen to the podcast and find out why it may be wise to hire a Divorce CFO before an attorney! Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if yo…
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Married to the Mortgage with Jennifer Brown, CDLP®
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38:03Andrew chats with Jennifer Brown, a Certified Divorce Lending Professional. They discuss the various mortgage financing options available to divorcing couples, including potential mortgage assumptions. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorc…
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The Danger of Free Time - Retirement and Gray Divorce with Marianne Oehser
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34:31Andrew chats with Marianne Oehser, a Certified Retirement and Relationship Coach. They discuss the link between retirement and late life divorce and the danger that an unstructured, poorly planned retirement can have on a marriage. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transc…
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In Episode 53 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew discusses the effects of taxes on your divorce settlement. Failing to plan for the after-tax effect of your marital settlement agreement can result in you coming out with much less money than you thought! Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 sta…
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Andrew attends the 2024 Nevada Family Law Conference and provides some key takeaways to help your divorce case. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divorce Solutions. Follow Andrew on LinkedIn too!…
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What You Need to Know About QDROs with Shann D. Winesett
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30:59Andrew chats with Shann Winesett, a family law attorney and experienced QDRO preparer. They discuss the importance of the QDRO in retirement plan division in divorce. They discuss common mistakes that are made in preparing QDROs and how to avoid potential financial grief in the future. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe …
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Special 50th Edition of The Gray Divorce Podcast
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16:22Andrew celebrates the 50th episode of the podcast by reviewing your five favorite episodes. He also discusses the origins of the podcast In the hope that it might inspire listeners to get started on their own creative projects. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend …
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In Episode 49 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew discusses the question of whether money can buy happiness. He discusses recent research that suggests a high degree of correlation between money and happiness. He discusses previous research which suggested limits to the correlation and tries to find some common ground. Thanks for listening! We'd be…
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Business Valuation in Divorce with Jennifer Allen CPA, ABV
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28:29Andrew chats with Jennifer Allen, a business valuation specialist based in Las Vegas. They discuss the importance of business valuation in divorce. How do business buyouts work? What does she look for in business financials to detect attempts to undervalue the business? What happens when each party brings in their own business valuation expert? Tha…
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Life After Gray Divorce - Rebuilding Overseas with Jeff Opdyke
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46:38In episode 47 of The Gray Divorce Podcast Andrew chats with writer and international traveler Jeff Opdyke. Jeff went through a midlife divorce at age 50, after a 25-year marriage. Shortly after the divorce his life was shaken again when he lost his job. But Jeff is now flourishing. He's remarried, living overseas and writing professionally and crea…
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Finding Hidden Cash in Divorce with Laurie Dyke CPA, CFF, CFE
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29:26In Episode 46 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with Laurie Dyke, a Certified Public Accountant, Certified in Financial Forensics and Certified Fraud Examiner. They discuss some of the ways a spouse may hide cash or intentionally undervalue marital assets, such as a business, in divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd …
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Resetting after Gray Divorce - The Importance of Gratitude
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15:58In Episode 45 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew discusses the importance of practicing gratitude both during and after divorce. He discusses the psychological and physical benefits of gratitude and offers some tips on how to bring more gratitude into your life while going through or emerging from divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very gratef…
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83. Improving Your Relationship with Money with Hanna Horvath
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34:27In this episode of Tech Money Live, Malcolm chats with special guest, Hanna Horvath, of Bankrate and "Your Brain on Money," to discuss her work as a personal finance writer, and her passion for helping people understand the ways in which their background, social conditioning, and personalities all influence the way they think and handle and talk ab…
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In Episode 44 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I discuss the legal costs of divorce. I look at four different divorce processes; traditional litigious divorce through the courts, Collaborative Divorce, mediation and the Amicable Divorce Network and discuss the financial costs of each. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to th…
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Living Abroad After Gray Divorce, Part 2 with Jennifer Stevens, Editor of International Living
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49:13In Episode 43 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with the editor of International Living magazine Jennifer Stevens in the second of a two-part discussion. They discuss the results of International Living’s Global Retirement Index, an annual survey of the best countries in the world to retire. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if yo…
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82. Beyond Bitcoin: Is there More to Crypto?
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47:21In this episode of Tech Money Live, Malcolm chats with special guest, Ryan Rasmussen, of Bitwise Asset Management to discuss cryptocurrency as an entire asset class beyond Bitcoin. The pair delve into into broader landscape of cryptocurrencies, including the emerging technologies and diverse applications that are shaping the future of finance. Whil…
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Coaching Stepparents at all Stages of Life with Maria Natapov
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37:48In Episode 42 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with Stepparenting Coach Maria Natapov. They discuss Maria’s focus on helping her clients confidently blend their families through all stages of life. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser D…
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81. How to Build an Investment Portfolio from Scratch
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26:20In this episode of Tech Money Live, Malcolm lays out a playbook for how to construct an investment portfolio from scratch. Inspired by a recent blog post and feedback received from the Tech Money community, Malcolm walks through his own approach to investing, and also shares plenty of helpful resources for investors at all phases on the journey. Jo…
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Living Abroad After Gray Divorce, Part 1 with Jennifer Stevens, Editor of International Living
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36:41In Episode 41 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with the editor of International Living magazine Jennifer Stevens in the first of a two-part discussion. They discuss some of the benefits of living internationally and some of the key concerns that people moving overseas may have. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe…
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Working with Men as a Relationship Engineer with Bob Wischer
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39:37In Episode 40 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with Life and Health Coach Bob Wischer. A self-described “relationship engineer” Bob is the founder of Heart Forged Coaching and the host of the Men Becoming Better Men podcast. They discuss Bob’s focus on coaching men after mid-late life divorce after he experienced his own mid-life divorce. …
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Working with Women as a Divorce Coach with Nanette Murphy
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40:38In Episode 39 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, Andrew chats with Life, Health, and Divorce Coach Nanette Murphy. They discuss Nanette’s focus on coaching women through mid-late life divorce after she experienced her own mid-life divorce after decades of marriage. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us …
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Estate Planning and Gray Divorce with Attorney Amanda Wedl
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33:36In Episode 38 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I chat with attorney Amanda Wedl. We discuss the topic of estate planning and gray divorce. What are some “must dos” and “must avoids” for older divorcees to ensure that their last wishes are fulfilled, whether they die after the divorce or even during the divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very gratef…
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80. The State of the Tech Worker with Alex Kantrowitz
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56:13In this episode, Malcolm Ethridge sits down with Alex Kantrowitz, Founder/CEO of Big Technology to discuss many different topics affecting tech workers, such as whether mass layoffs in tech are finally done, the likelihood that AI actually replaces knowledge workers, as well as Alex’s own journey from working in tech to reporting on it. Join the Te…
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All About Pre-Nups and Post-Nups with Attorney Molly Rosenblum
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29:30In Episode 37 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I chat with attorney Molly Rosenblum. We discuss the topic of prenuptial and postnuptial agreements. What are they and why should a couple have a pre-nup before marriage or get a post-nup after marriage? Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Plea…
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Divorce and Finances - A Chat with Carol Lee Roberts, IDFA President
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34:02In episode 36 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I am interviewed by Carol Lee Roberts, president of the Institute for Divorce Financial Analysts. In our conversation, we talk about the role of the Certified Divorce Financial Analyst in divorce, and I share my experience working with older divorcing people. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if …
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Important Retirement Plan Changes: The Implications for Late Life Divorce
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10:36In Episode 35 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I discuss the impact of recent congressional legislation relating to retirement plans. The Secure Act 2.0 contains 92 new provisions which could affect the financial decisions of people getting divorced, both in the short run and the long run. Download the checklist of the issues covered in the SECURE Act …
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In Episode 34 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I discuss the two very important financial planning tools to help you before, during and after the divorce process, your budget and your net worth calculation. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Divor…
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Reverse Mortgages and Gray Divorce with John Drennen, CDLP
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34:01In Episode 33 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I chat with Certified Divorce Lending Professional John Drennen. We discuss the topic of reverse mortgages, an often misunderstood financing option for older homeowners. You can download the Client Data File here. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 s…
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All About Gray Divorce and the Origins of the Podcast
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30:52In Episode 32 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I am a guest on Real Talk Las Vegas, a YouTube program hosted by Las Vegas realtor Joe DiRaffaele. Joe and I talk about how the Gray Divorce and how The Gray Divorce Podcast came into being. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Tran…
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Should I Stay or Should I Go? Discernment Counseling with Linda Hershman, LMFT
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36:23In Episode 31 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I chat with Marriage and Family Therapist Linda Hershman. We discuss the subject of discernment counseling, a short-term counseling approach designed to deal with the question of whether you should stay in your marriage. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give…
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Know Yourself! The Wheel of Life - Tools for Growth after Gray Divorce, Part 4
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15:29In Episode 30 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I discuss the coaching tool known as The Wheel of Life. I review the tool, discuss how you might use it in your life and offer a few thoughts as to its efficacy. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retirement or Wiser Div…
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Know Yourself! Ikigai - Tools for Growth After Gray Divorce, Part 3
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16:02In Episode 29 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I discuss the Japanese concept of Ikigai, or meaning and purpose in one's life. I review the concept and offer some practical tips on how you might find some ikigai in your life. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit Transcend Retire…
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In this episode, I chat with Pet Custody Mediator Karis Nafte. Karis discusses the key issues that can arise in the process of deciding who keeps the pets in divorce. We also discuss the special situations of older adults and their pets. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please visit …
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In this episode, I talk about the team approach to divorce. Attorneys specialize in the law. But divorce is about money and emotions are involved. Listen to why it makes sense to bring in other professionals to help you get through the process. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give us 5 stars! Please…
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The Perils of DIY Divorce with Attorney Philip Spradling
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32:53In this episode, I chat with Attorney Philip Spradling. Philip discusses the problems that can arise when couples decide to divorce themselves without the assistance of an attorney. DIY divorce can be just as problematic as a long, drawn-out contentious divorce. Thanks for listening! We'd be very grateful if you'd subscribe to the podcast and give …
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How to Shape a Life of Money and Meaning with Brian Portnoy
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35:46In this episode, I chat with Brian Portnoy. Brian is one of the world's leading experts on the psychology of money. Our discussion focuses on his book The Geometry of Wealth. We discuss the important distinction between being rich and being wealthy and the role money plays in what Brian terms “funded contentment.” Thanks for listening! We'd be very…
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Ready for Divorce? A Chat with "Recovering" Divorce Lawyer Karen Covy
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38:14In this episode, I chat with “recovering” attorney and divorce coach Karen Covy. Karen talks about her dislike for the divorce system in the United States and how she transitioned to work as a divorce coach. Karen distinguishes between the work of a divorce coach and a therapist and encourages divorcing parties to a team approach to divorce. Thanks…
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Real Estate Financing and Divorce with Tami Wollensak, CDLP
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31:53In episode 23 of The Gray Divorce Podcast, I talk to Tami Wollensak, a Certified Divorce Lending Professional based in Chicago, Illinois. We discussed the important role of divorce mortgage planning in the divorce process and how a divorce mortgage professional can work with a family law attorney to help their client with future financing or refina…
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