Best Andrew Heaton Podcasts (2025)

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Tribalism is Dumb (w/Andrew Heaton) 1:06:09

21d ago1:06:09

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Andrew Heaton is the author of the new book Tribalism Is Dumb and the host of The Political Orphanage podcast. He sits down with Paul to unpack where tribalism comes from, how it is tearing us apart, and how we might fix it. With wit, warmth, and some surprisingly deep evolutionary psychology, Andrew explains how our ancient brains are wired to see…

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What the Hell Is Finland Smiling About? 1:45:58

9h ago1:45:58

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Finland routinely winds up at the top of global happiness surveys. Why? In this episode, I flew to Helsinki to wander around and chat up locals. Trying to figure out why: Their social trust is so teeteringly high How their social safety nets work How this combines to result in their contentedness. So that we can steal all that, and replicate it. Re…

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From Prison to Oprah 56:51

7h ago56:51

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What happens when a suburban soccer mom falls into heroin addiction, commits felonies, and ends up in prison—only to climb back out and become a four-time New York Times bestselling author? In this unforgettable episode, Paul sits down with Lara Love Hardin, author of The Many Lives of Mama Love, a mind-blowing memoir of crippling dependence, incar…

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Most of Us Are in the Middle — So Why Are the Extremes Controlling the Conversation? 40:36

1d ago40:36

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Not Right. Not Left. Not Crazy. Just Real Talk About Politics and People. 43% of Us Aren’t Partisan Left or Right. This Episode Is for You. Reflecting on what it means to be politically independent in a time of increasing polarization. Drawing on personal stories and hot-button issues like Israel/Palestine, redistricting, and public safety, host Co…

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Would you vote for Jesus? 45:20

5d ago45:20

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📬 Subscribe to Paul’s Substack: https://words.paulollinger.com/📖 Learn more about Jonathan Rauch: https://jonathanrauch.typepad.com/What happens when someone who grew up Jewish, gay, and atheist finds deep inspiration in the teachings of Jesus? In this fascinating conversation, Jonathan Rauch returns to the podcast to talk about his new book 'Cross…

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About DC Police Takeover and Treat-o-nomics 1:59:15

6d ago1:59:15

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Andrew Heaton, Jen Briney, and Justin Young as they dive into a lively discussion on the complexities of political identity, the impact of federal intervention in cities, and the nuances of libertarianism. Trump takes over the DC police, is that legal? If so, will it be effective? Also, are kids spending too much on dumb stuff? Is that a recession …

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Matthew D. Taylor: The NAR's War on Democracy & The Path to Rehumanizing Faith 1:26:36

6d ago1:26:36

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Exposing the New Apostolic Reformation's anti-democratic Seven Mountain Mandate and its profound impact on Christian nationalism, urging a return to interreligious dialogue and Jesus' core teachings to rehumanize faith and defend liberal democracy - we're joined by Dr. Matthew D. Taylor to discuss all this and more. Dr. Matthew D. Taylor is a leadi…

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To Make a Terrifying Spoiler Candidate 1:30:54

7d ago1:30:54

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It turns out, young voters (under fifty) are openly hostile to political parties, and are most likely to flip from election to election. This means the game is about to change as Millennials displace Baby Boomers as the largest voting bloc. So what happens? Adam Brandon is a senior advisor at The Independent Center, and the former and final preside…

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Redistricting Wars: Is It Wise to Fight Fire with Fire? Lessons from a Heated Dialogue. 39:54

9d ago39:54

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Principles, Polarization, and the Perils of Partisan Shaming. Let's dive into the heated “Redistricting Wars” in Texas, California, and other states. Using David French’s framework of “Is it legal? Is it ethical? Is it wise?”, Corey examines the legal, moral, and strategic angles of mid-decade redistricting. From explaining the political strategies…

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Thomas Chatterton Williams - SUMMER OF OUR DISCONTENT: The Age of Certainty and the Demise of Discourse 1:00:31

12d ago1:00:31

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What happened between the election of the first black president in 2008 and the reelection of Donald Trump in 2024 that's led to "the age of certainty and the demise of discourse"? Well, as the brilliant writer Thomas Chatterton Williams recounts in his new book, there was the SUMMER OF OUR DISCONTENT. In this episode, we get to sit down with Thoma…

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About the Clinton Subpoena and Trump Firing BLS Secretary 1:55:59

13d ago1:55:59

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With Heaton out on vacation, Jeremiah Johnson — from Infinite Scroll and the Center for New Liberalism — joins the panel as they cover the House’s sweeping subpoenas of Bill and Hillary Clinton, along with a host of former DOJ officials, in its expanding Epstein probe. They debate whether any outcome can satisfy the public’s bipartisan appetite for…

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Greg Lukianoff is Worried About Free Speech 1:27:57

14d ago1:27:57

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Greg Lukianoff is the President of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, and along with Nadine Strossen, is the author of "The War on Words: 10 Arguments Against Free Speech--And Why They Fail."By Andrew Heaton, Greg Lukianoff

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Cheering Murder, Losing Our Soul: A Call Back to Our Shared Humanity 36:36

16d ago36:36

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How Did We Get Here? From Outrage to Applauding Atrocity In this edition, host Corey Nathan offers a timely and deeply personal reflection on a disturbing trend in society: the growing tendency to dehumanize one another. We unpack two tragic incidents that sparked widespread and even celebratory reactions online—mass murders of corporate executives…

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Fires, ICE, and Faith — Rev. Dr. Matthew Colwell on Immigration, Loss, and Rebuilding Community 1:15:36

20d ago1:15:36

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What if ICE visits our church? How are we doing after the LA Fires? And how can the Church help to rebuild and heal? In this heartfelt episode of Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes back the Reverend Dr. Matt Colwell, Senior Pastor of Knox Presbyterian Church in Pasadena, CA. A theologian, author, and …

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About The EPA and The Deaths of 80s Stars 2:04:10

20d ago2:04:10

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The gang tackles the EPA’s decision to revoke the “endangerment finding,” a foundational ruling that enabled greenhouse gas regulations since 2009. Framed by Administrator Lee Zeldin as the biggest deregulatory move in U.S. history, the move sparks fierce debate over climate science, legal precedent, and the limits of executive power. Then, they re…

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But Gene Epstein Hates the Fed 1:12:15

20d ago1:12:15

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Does the Fed achieve its own stated goals? What are underlying ethical or practical issues with it? Soho Forum founder and economist Gene Epstein joins to make the case against the Federal Reserve. The SoHo Forum: https://www.thesohoforum.org/ Uncut Gene Epstein interview on the Federal Reserve: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h_8wTj-0VrlMWsrtI6iI…

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What the Hell Does the Federal Reserve Do? 1:29:27

21d ago1:29:27

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What is the purported aim of the Federal Reserve? Why is it independent, or shoot for 2% targeted inflation? In part one of our series on the Fed, Jeremiah Johnson of the New Liberal podcast joins to explain, discuss, and field objections.

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Misunderstood, Mislabeled, and Still Thinking About It: What to Do About Rumination 37:54

22d ago37:54

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Ever get stuck in those mental loops after heated conversations around politics and religion? Let's talk about it! In this episode, host Corey Nathan opens up about the all-too-common habit of rumination—going over those difficult conversations or moments of conflict again and again. Drawing from a powerful personal story, Corey explores what rumin…

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Finding Purpose, Building Wealth, and Staying Grounded in Uncertain Times with Jorge Meza 51:36

27d ago51:36

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In today's economic and political climate, how can we all keep our heads while everyone else is losing theirs? Talkin' tariffs, budget deficits, the Fed, interest rates, and all kinds of fun stuff! In this episode of Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other, host Corey Nathan welcomes long-time friend and investment advisor Jorge Meza…

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About Stephen Colbert and Redistricting 1:59:57

27d ago1:59:57

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The gang unpacks CBS’s decision to end The Late Show and retire the franchise entirely, as Stephen Colbert hints at political pressure behind the move. With late-night peers rallying in support and Colbert defying the network’s financial rationale, the panel debates whether satire is being sidelined in a polarized media landscape. They also explore…

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How to Become Rich Serving in Congress 1:00:14

28d ago1:00:14

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How can an unscrupulous person get elected to high office and make a buck by abusing public trust? To look into this matter we speak with former congressman (and former lobbyist) Scott Klug.By Andrew Heaton, Scott Klug

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Mastering the Minefield: How to Spot Escalation, Avoid Traps & Build Better Dialogue 39:54

30d ago39:54

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan explores how we can navigate difficult conversations around politics and religion with more grace and effectiveness. Drawing on personal experiences, spiritual grounding, and practical techniques, Corey shares what to look out for when a conversation is going sideways and how to communicate better even in the most…

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Trump 2.0, John MacArthur, and America's Numbed Conscience: A Special Roundtable with Lori Adams-Brown and William Wright 1:12:54

1M ago1:12:54

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Trump 2.0 - 6 months in. How's it going? (And other light comedy...) In this milestone 300th episode, Corey is joined by two insightful friends: Lori Adams-Brown, host of A World of Difference podcast, and William Wright, co-host of the Faithful Politics podcast. Together, they reflect on six months of the Trump 2.0 administration, rising Christian…

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China Hates These Two People 1:37:32

1M ago1:37:32

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Melissa Chan and Badiucao have both been exiled from the People's Republic of China; the former as a journalist and the latter as an artist and political cartoonist. They join the show to discuss censorship and authoritarianism in China, and their new book, "You Must Take Part in Revolution: A Graphic Novel."…

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About Rescissions and AI Companions for Kids 1:57:36

1M ago1:57:36

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The gang unpacks the “Rescissions Act of 2025,” a narrow House-passed bill aiming to slash $9.4 billion from foreign aid and public broadcasting, prompting a tight Senate battle over what many see as symbolic cuts. They also examine a new UK report showing kids increasingly treat AI chatbots like best friends—raising concerns about safety, misinfor…

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Puck CEO, Sarah Personette 59:05

1M ago59:05

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This week, Paul sits down with Sarah Personette, CEO of Puck, the fast-growing news outlet the New York Times described as “Vanity Fair for the Substack era.” From her ambition to become a CEO at age seven to her senior roles at Facebook, Universal-McCann, and Twitter – which ended after Elon Musk bought the company, Sarah unpacks what it takes to …

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The Skipper's Moral Compass: A Navy SEAL Commander on Ethical Leadership & Navigating Today's Political Waters 1:18:11

1M ago1:18:11

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In this episode, we welcome Dr. Roger Herbert—retired Navy Captain, former SEAL commander, professor of ethics, and distinguished academic. Dr. Herbert’s career spans from leading undersea special operations to teaching future naval officers at the U.S. Naval Academy. We explore Dr. Herbert's remarkable journey marked by leadership, ethics, and pro…

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BONUS EPISODE| THE CHOSEN SERIES: IN CONVERSATION WITH ABE BUENO JALLAD (Big James) 14:34

1M ago14:34

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Send us a text In celebration of 'The Chosen' - Season 5, debuting on July 13th, Cheryl sits with the brilliant Abe Bueno Jallad who plays the beloved disciple ‘Big James’! This is a must-listen episode as Abe shares on how 'The Chosen' has impacted his personal life, how he’s evolved the character of James and the global impact The Chosen has arou…

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Do You Want To Be Right Or The Relationship? Why We Insist on Being Right in Politics & Beyond 35:54

1M ago35:54

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In this solo episode, host Corey Nathan shares a personal story that explores a fundamental question many of us face in political and relational discourse: “Do you want to be right, or do you want the relationship?” Prompted by a real-life interaction following his attendance at a local rally, Corey examines how we navigate our convictions, the cos…

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About the Epstein Files and Tucker's Iranian Interview 1:46:39

1M ago1:46:39

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The gang covers the DOJ’s final report on Jeffrey Epstein, which found no client list, no evidence of blackmail, and confirmed his death was a suicide. The lack of new revelations sparked backlash from conspiracy-minded corners of the internet, but the panel debates whether the case is finally closed. Then they examine Tucker Carlson’s interview wi…

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The Two Times We Invaded Canada 31:44

1M ago31:44

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Ever wonder why Canada didn’t become the 14th colony during the American War of Independence? It turns out, America invited Canada to join. Then, when they turned down the invitation, invaded. Then again in 1812. In this episode we return to States that Weren’t: Canada. Plus, how Nova Scotia and Newfoundland almost became states. www.ThePoliticalOr…

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The Last Starfighter 1:11:59

1M ago1:11:59

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In “The Last Starfighter” (1984) a young man has his sword-in-the-stone moment playing an arcade game which propels him into heroic intergalactic adventure. Brett Weaver joins to discuss the movie, the Hero’s Journey, and to talk about what a sequel or remake would look like. LINKS: Heaton’s Otamatone Odyssey https://youtu.be/3BMGPv5RnOQ…

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Mike Madrid on the Latino Electorate, Trump's Win in 2024 and What It Means for the Soul of America 1:22:36

1M ago1:22:36

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In this episode, host Corey Nathan welcomes back political consultant, author, and Substack contributor Mike Madrid. A renowned expert on Latino voters and co-founder of the Lincoln Project, Mike brings his profound insights on American politics, identity, and democracy. Together, Corey and Mike explore deeply personal stories, historical context, …

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