Join us as we share what it's like to build and launch a bootstrapped startup while working for yourself full-time. Benedikt is working on Userlist, and Benedicte is establishing herself as a Gatsby expert and developer advocate for hire.
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The Ruby on Rails Podcast, a weekly conversation about Ruby on Rails, open source software, and the programming profession. Co-hosted by Nick Schwaderer. Edited by Peachtree Sound.
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Episode 537: Userlist with Benedikt Deicke
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28:17Benedikt used to be a freelance software engineer and co-founded Userlist in 2017 as a side project with his co-founder Jane Portman. They went full-time on it in 2020. Benedikt enjoys database query optimization just as much as pushing around pixels on the front-end Show Notes https://userlist.com/ https://slowandsteadypodcast.com/ https://bsky.ap…
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Benedikt finishes a few projects. Benedicte and the Pirate family are busy packing. With Leo mainly focusing on the redesign project, Benedikt wraps up other projects: two new features and their migration to Dragonfly Cloud. He also shares why it’s challenging to pick up business books when you’re running a business. Just two weeks away from their …
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Benedicte shares her goals for the year. The Userlist team goes deep into their redesign project. Benedicte recently met up with her mentor group for a planning session and shares her goals and projected timeline for the next two years. Meanwhile, Ola has been taking charge of the user interviews for Galleon. And with just 4 weeks before their grea…
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Episode 536: Better With Becky with Becky Searls
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39:20Becky Searls is a teacher-turned-trainer, but her true passion is learning and continuous growth. She shares everything she learns through her business, Better with Becky, which recently launched its first product: a strength-training app called Build with Becky (which she built in collaboration with her husband Justin using Ruby on Rails) Show Not…
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Don’t code the thing, talk to people first
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42:25The Userlist team is undertaking their next big project. The Pirate family spends a nice vacation at the cabin. Keeping up with their quarterly planning, Benedikt and the Userlist team have decided on their big project for the second quarter: the UI redesign. Feeling excited and a bit nervous about the project, Benedikt hopes that doing it in phase…
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Today we’re continuing our series of highlighting startups building with Rails. Every app eventually runs into scaling requirements. Whether that’s from a spike in traffic or persistent growth. That’s why we have autoscaling. Judoscale is a tool to make autoscaling easy. Adam joins us to talk about building Judoscale with Rails Show Notes https://j…
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Episode 534: Good Enough with James Adam and Cade Truitt
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34:59Good Enough is a company that makes Rails apps. They have quite a few products and all of them are built on Rails. Today James and Cade join the show to tell us about building a small software company with Rails. Show Notes letsjelly.com/rails https://goodenough.us/ Sponsors Hosting for The Ruby on Rails Podcast is provided by Fireside.fm. If you w…
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Benedikt and Benedicte share how they’re leveraging AI to help with their current projects. For their Galleon Gateway project, Benedicte’s been working with Claude to come up with a Laravel implementation that she can feed to Cursor. While it’s going well for a couple of her projects, here’s one thing that AI can’t help with just yet: time zone bug…
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Benedicte and Benedikt talk about vibe coding and more. Recently named one of Norway’s Leading Women in Tech for 2025, Benedicte feels honored and realizes the importance of having role models in your life. And despite feeling scattered these past weeks, she’s getting to know the API katas for Outseta and was also able to deploy the first version o…
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The Userlist team is wrapping a couple of product stuff up. Benedicte and her Pirate family are testing a new sport. With the first quarter of the year almost coming to an end, Benedikt and the Userlist team are working on finishing and shipping a couple of projects including their transactional messages API. He’s also figured out how to do partial…
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Episode 533: Catching Up With Nick Schwaderer
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30:15Nick dropped by the (virtual) studio to talk about how things have been going in the ruby community. Sponsors Hosting for The Ruby on Rails Podcast is provided by Fireside.fm. If you want to start a podcast and are looking for hosting, visit fireside.fm/rails to get started. Alright, let’s talk about deploying code without having a full-blown panic…
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Benedicte feels recharged. Benedikt shares the bright side of a customer cancellation. After the crazy beginning to her year, Benedicte is feeling recharged and productive. With the support load down, she finally released the article on WeWeb + Outseta and a companion expansion guide to the integration. Benedicte and Ola are also working on their l…
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Episode 532: Hotwire Native with Joe Masilotti
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36:13Today's guest is Joe Masilotti, who wrote Hotwire Native for Hotwire Developers. Joe is known as the Hotwire Native guy - he helps Rails developers build web-powered iOS and Android apps with Hotwire Native. He joins the show to talk about how Hotwire Native can help you build mobile apps out of your Rails apps. Show Notes Hotwire Native For Rails …
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Benedikt and Benedicte share their plans for 2025.By Benedikt Deicke, Benedicte Raae, and Brian Rhea
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Episode 531: Taking Over Fireside with John Nunemaker & Garrett Dimon
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33:47This year, I want to expand the show in a new direction. I want to hear from startups and companies that are building with Rails. Today's episode feature John Nunemaker and Garrett Dimon who recently acquired Fireside.fm, the podcast hosting platform we use for this show. We talk about what it's like taking over a Rails app that was under different…
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2024: Wins, struggles, and everything in between
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32:07Benedikt and Benedicte take a look back at the highlights of their 2024.By Benedikt Deicke, Benedicte Raae, and Brian Rhea
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Episode 530: Ask Elise Anything hosted by Rachael Wright-Munn
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37:13In this episode, Elise responds to listener submitted questions on everything from her career journey to how cooking relates to coding. With special guest host, Rachael Wright-MunnBy Elise Shaffer
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After a couple of eventful weeks, things are finally slowing down for the holidays. Queen Raae’s let-it-snow script Userlist’s Conversion Goals feature Things have been pretty busy on the product side for Benedikt and the Userlist team: launching the Conversion Goals feature, releasing new workflow node types, and more. And after working around a h…
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Episode 529: Catching Up With Nick Schwaderer
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31:35This episode is a little off the Rails, but it was still fun catching up with our co-host, Nick Schwaderer.By Elise Shaffer
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Benedicte and Benedikt share life and work updates, and some debugging horror stories. Benedicte and her Pirate family have been low key sick all month. Despite feeling under the weather, they were able to bake and pack more than 100 cookies for the Christmas Market at school. She finished her Xano + Outseta (XO) Vanilla Demo for Outseta, and is do…
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Episode 528: Working In Tech With ADHD with Chris Ferdinandi
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37:50In the last few years, there’s been more awareness about ADHD in adults. We’ve learned that it’s more than hyperactivity and it’s not a deficit of attention. Many working in tech have ADHD and because we have a world built for neurotypicals, there can be unique challenges for those working in tech with ADHD. Today, Chris Ferdinandi joins the show t…
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Too old for fun and modular startup furniture
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46:23Benedikt is in productive mode. Benedicte plays around with Xano. Benedicte is done with fun and modular furniture A fun fact about the world’s first 4G network To cope with the stressful events in the world, Benedikt went into productive mode these past week. They’ve made great progress with their company triggers, built some command line tools to…
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Episode 527: Evangelizing Rails with Irina Nazarova
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30:36We all love Ruby on Rails. You may remember that my first episode on this show was about whether Rails was still relevant. In the last few years, there’s been so many exciting things coming to Ruby and Rails. I have felt that excitement in the community. I’ve felt it at conferences and in my conversations with many of you. Today, Irina Nazarova joi…
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Benedicte is winning at her quarterly goal. Benedikt makes great progress with company triggers. Benedicte makes the Twitter-viral butter chicken recipe With only two months left in the year, Benedicte is crushing her quarterly goal: to have an enjoyable everyday life. At Whee, she’s pushing the boundaries of their Make plan, and will be testing ou…
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Episode 526: Rails World with Robby Russell
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31:58Nick and I recorded an episode at Rails World with Robby Russell. This is a test of new format we're running where we discuss Rails News. Robby joins us to talk about the Rails Developer Survey that ran this summer. WE also chat about all the new things announced at Rails World. Sponsors Thanks to Buzzsprout for sponsoring our Rails World coverage …
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Benedikt comes back from MicroConf. Benedicte returns from their fall vacation. Benedicte’s view while coding on the boat Benedicte and tech are in a situationship Benedikt is feeling a bit drained after having an eventful time at MicroConf. While the conference itself was great, he experienced interesting things along the way: from getting flights…
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Benedicte and Benedikt talk about how taking breaks actually help your projects, and more. The power of breaks, a story in three parts Leo’s talk at EmberFest Benedicte’s excited for the wins at her fractional roles: they’ve just launched their Framer plugin at Outseta; and she discovered the wonders of Make.com while creating a Stripe webhook for …
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Episode 525: Catching Up With Ruby Central with Marty Haught
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29:23Ruby Central has been a foundational part of the Ruby community since 2003. They organize Ruby Conf and Rails Conf and maintain critical Ruby infrastructure like rubygems.org. With Ruby Conf Chicago just around the corner and new initiatives at Ruby Central, we thought it would be a good time to catch up with our friends at Ruby Central. Marty Haug…
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Episode 524: Writing Code Using AI with Landon Gray
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28:39Large language models are everywhere now. They’re changing the way we work, from tools code completion tools like Copilot, to audio generation apps like Suno.ai. Apple recently announced huge updates with generative AI for all of their platforms. Adobe, Canva, and Google have all added AI to their products. It seems like every vendor is building th…
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Benedikt comes back from a short vacation. Benedicte talks about their struggles with estimated arrivals at Whee. EmberFest Prior to his vacation in Munich last week, Benedikt and the Userlist team pushed a few of their upcoming features into production. He’ll also be meeting Leo for the first time in person this week at EmberFest in Dublin. With s…
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Episode 523: Welcome Back, Nick Schwaderer
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31:52Our illustrious cohost Nick is back from parental leave! We talk about life as a parent and coder, committing to Ruby on Rails, being coworkers and finding time for hobbies. I'm looking forward to recording with Nick again.By Elise Shaffer
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Benedicte and Benedikt talk about their hobbies. EmberFest Cards Against Artisans Now that the school year has started, Benedicte is enjoying a freer mental space. With this, she decided that her focus project for next quarter will be “Lovely Everyday Life” so she can do activities that make her everyday life lovelier. Benedicte also recently atten…
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Episode 522: Mentoring Junior Devs with Adam Cuppy
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39:42A recent focus of many in the community has been expanding the community. We all love Rails and want to create the best community possible. Part of this focus has to include early career devs. We need to expose them to Rails and mentor them into the senior developers and tech leaders we need in the future. Adam Cuppy joins the show today to teach h…
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Episode 521: Euruko with Muhamed Isabegovic
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27:50EuRuKo (European Ruby Konferenz) is the largest and longest running annual Ruby conference in Europe, since 2003, that brings you all the good news about Ruby and its friends. Every year it takes place in a different European city, the location being chosen by participants. Today's guest is Muhamed Isabegovic, who has taken over organizing Euruko t…
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Benedikt and Benedicte talk about this year’s unusual summer pace, bug fixing, and more. With most people going on vacations during the summer, businesses usually anticipate things to slow down a bit for the season. But unlike previous years, it looks like businesses are not seeing much of a summer slump this year. Benedikt and the Userlist team ha…
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A summer of heat waves, tropical storms, and everything in between
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33:35Benedicte shares stories from their summer at the cabin. Benedikt talks about their latest product improvements. The summer brought nice summer nights and tropical storms in Scandinavia, giving Benedicte and her pirate family some memorable cabin office life experiences. She also shares that they’ve fixed up a part of their property and listed it o…
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Episode 520: Backend Accessibility with Hilary Stohs-Krause
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36:29In our last episode, we talked about Web Accessibility. But, did you know that there are accessibility concerns on the backend and in our interactions with our teams. Hilary Stohs-Krause joins the show to tell us more about how we can be more accommodating to our teams. Show Notes Simple writing "Disability Impacts All of Us" (CDC) - https://www.cd…
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The What, Why, & How of Data Modeling with Dan Singerman
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48:16Today, we’re joined by Dan Singerman, founder and director of Reason Factory. He talks to us about why you should consider the user’s mental model when creating software, why it’s important to have consistent vernacular across your system, and more. Reason Factory Follow Dan on Twitter Chapters (00:36) - Dan’s background and what his consultancy do…
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Episode 519: Joel Hawksley on Web Accessibility
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37:53Joel is a staff software engineer at GitHub, working on user interface architecture and strategy. For the last several years, he has been part of the team working to improve the accessibility of GitHub.com. He also leads development of the ViewComponent framework. Today, he joins the show to teach us about Web Accessibility Show Notes Joel's RailsC…
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Simplifying Developers’ Lives with Ivar Østhus
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44:14Today, we’re joined by Ivar Østhus, CTO and co-founder of Unleash. He talks to us about the inspiration behind Unleash, why they have two different APIs in their platform, and more. Unleash Check out Unleash on GitHub Follow Ivar on Twitter Follow Unleash on Twitter Chapters (00:33) - What is Unleash? (01:05) - Tall tale about the inspiration behin…
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It’s another bittersweet episode as our hosts talk about wins and some sad news. Whee! wins the Oslo environmental prize Queen Raae and her family on the way to the cabin office The past couple of weeks have been a whirlwind for Benedicte: attending Lillian’s flute recital, spending a spa day with Salma (@whitep4nth3r on Twitter) in Larvik, and tra…
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Episode 518: Live From The Rails Conf Hallway Track!
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26:01While at Rails Conf, I caught up with several attendees and organizers to discuss their experiences. These quick interviews have been collected for this episode. Our Guests: Trevor John https://github.com/trevorrjohn Joshua Paine https://github.com/midnightmonster/activerecord-summarize David Hill https://github.com/Esmale Alex Mitchell @a_mitch on…
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Today, we’re joined by Anthony Eden, co-founder of DNSimple. He talks to us about the difference between DNS and domain registration, what ephemeral data is, and more. DNSimple How DNS Works Follow Anthony on Twitter Connect with Anthony on LinkedIn Chapters (00:35) - What is DNSimple? (01:24) - DNS versus domain registration (02:44) - DNSimple’s t…
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Benedikt shares a bittersweet update at work. Benedicte talks about Whee. Whee The Userlist team went into hiring mode these past couple of weeks as a team member will be saying goodbye soon. On the upside, Benedikt has successfully completed the drum course and will be rewarding himself with some new gear. Benedicte shares how Whee works, and the …
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Episode 517: Rails Conf 2024 Crossover: Off The Rails
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29:32At Rails Conf 2024, I gathered several of our favorite ruby podcasters for a giant crossover episode! In this episode we have: Drew Bragg from Code and the Coding Coders Who Code It - https://podcast.drbragg.dev/ Julie J from Ruby For All - https://www.rubyforall.com/ Jason Swett from Code with Jason - https://www.codewithjason.com/ Joël Quennevill…
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Today, we’re joined by Mathias Hansen, co-founder of Geocodio. He talks to us about the challenges of dealing with geodata, how opening up data helps improve accuracy for everyone, and more. Geocodio Follow Mathias on Twitter Chapters (00:52) - What is Geocodio? (04:01) - Geocodio’s tech stack (06:46) - Data models and flexible pricing (10:13) - Ch…
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A Journey from SaaS to Self-Discovery with Shai Schechter
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1:01:24Shai Schechter chats with Benedikt and Benedicte about his journey with RightMessage and what he’s been up to these days. Feelings Wheel Follow Shai on Twitter Check out Shai’s website Explore Shai’s reading list Both coming from software backgrounds and coming into the online marketing world, Shai and Brennan created RightMessage to have marketing…
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The Two Hard Things in Software Development with Benedikt Deicke
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47:33Today, we’re joined by Benedikt Deicke, co-founder and CTO of Userlist. He talks to us about why naming things and cache invalidation are hard, why it’s a good idea to denormalize your data sometimes, and more. Userlist Real Time Analytics with PostgreSQL Follow Benedikt on Twitter Follow Userlist on Twitter and LinkedIn Visit Benedikt’s website Ch…
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Episode 516: Catching Up On The Rails Foundation with Amanda Perino
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32:28Over the last year, the Rails Foundation has been hard at work on several initiatives. After a successful Rails World last year, they’ve been working on the program for this year’s Rails World in Toronto. The Rails Foundation has also been working on several other initiatives that are very important to our community. Amanda Perino, Executive Direct…
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Benedicte enjoys the mix of remote and in-person activities that comes with her several fractional roles. Benedikt tries to get back into the work groove. Whee Urlbox Benedicte is enjoying the mix of her fractional roles with Outseta and Whee, giving her the best of both worlds of remote and in-person work. She also shares details about their upcom…
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