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Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will i ...
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This Morning Walk

Alex Elle + Libby DeLana

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This Morning Walk podcast invites you to experience the transformative power of a simple walk, now part of Blind Nil Audio from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines. Join hosts Alex Elle and Libby DeLana as they share the lessons they’ve learned on their walking paths, both individually and together. Alex - A New York Times BestSelling Author and writing coach living in DC with her husband and daughters - and Libby - a Creative Director based on both coasts with grown children - starte ...
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The Stories We Tell with Joanna Gaines

Blind Nil Audio and Pod People

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New York Times Bestselling author Joanna Gaines invites guests - including podcast-reluctant Chip Gaines - to discuss her new book, The Stories We Tell. Filled with the same wit and hard-won wisdom you expect from the stars of Fixer Upper and Magnolia founders, this four-episode series shines a light on the vulnerable side of Jo as she speaks candidly about doubt and belief, shame and acceptance, and finding strength in self-discovery. Jo writes, “Earlier this year, I wrote down my story—all ...
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This week, the dudes dive into Minnesota’s infamous Surly Laws after a recent trip across the border. Drew confronts his fear of skyrocketing Uber prices, and the guys hatch a plan for the rise of LA Drew. . This episode’s brew? A classy combo of 1792 Small Batch bourbon and some good ol’ mineral water—hydration and intoxication in perfect harmony.…
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From the East Coast to the heart of the Midwest, punk rock veteran Geoff Palmer sits down with Drew to talk songwriting, the Midwest punk scene, and why music still matters. They dive into the creative process, musical roots, and more. Geoff sips on Lakefront Brewery’s “Junk,” while Drew attempts to choke down the classic Pabst Blue Ribbon, America…
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Before taking a pause for the Summer, Carl revisits moments with recent guests Austin Kleon, Debbie Millman, Tom Fishburne, and Gretchen Rubin to pulling together common threads about the hidden stories we tell ourselves about money. Ask yourself the following questions while listening: Where does your money come from and what does it cost you? Wha…
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Drew shares a DJing moment that made his blood boil, the guys mourn the loss of a beloved Milwaukee Buck, and somehow still manage to craft a calming mantra to keep it all together. They also dive into the eternal debate: are books better than their movie adaptations. Drew sips on a 2019 Bourbon County Brand Mon Cheri Stout from Goose Island…
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Austin Kleon has built a life around making art—and making choices. In this candid conversation, the bestselling author of Steal Like an Artist opens up about the cost of creativity, the pressure of success, and the freedom that comes from knowing what’s enough. From turning down life-changing sums of money to driving an old Honda with pride, Austi…
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Cartoonist and former brand manager Tom Fishburne—best known as the creator of Marketoonist—joins Carl for a conversation that flips the script on what it means to take risks. From leaving a stable job with a Harvard MBA to becoming a full-time cartoonist, Tom shares what looked like “career suicide” from the outside became his most stable and fulf…
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Debbie Millman is a celebrated designer, writer, educator, and host of the long-running podcast Design Matters. In this conversation, Debbie opens up about a subject she rarely discusses publicly: her lifelong relationship with money. Together with Carl, she traces the roots of scarcity, shame, and control that shaped her childhood and career decis…
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"You Actually Miss Your Life While You're Trying to Protect It". That’s the provocative idea at the heart of this episode with bestselling author Oliver Burkeman (Four Thousand Weeks). Oliver reflects on how class, money, and time shape our identity and our illusions of control. From childhood popsicle enterprises to awkward dinner bills and the ha…
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Is money ever just about money? Gretchen Rubin, bestselling author and happiness expert, joins Carl to explore the subtle ways our childhood, identity, and and the surprising power of choosing what not to spend money on. From her awe at the simple amount of $100 as a child to the moment she chose not to renew her New York Bar license, Gretchen shar…
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Luke from The Dirty Nil crashes the porch for a no-holds-barred chat with Drew! They dive into the chaos and excitement behind their upcoming summer tour with Heart Attack Man and the release of their explosive new album, The Lash — dropping July 25th. Luke pulls back the curtain on the stories, sounds, and snarls behind their latest singles, "Gall…
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What happens when you’ve checked every financial box—and still feel lost? Carl sits down with comedian, former Facebook exec, and Reasonably Happy author and podcast host Paul Ollinger to explore the emotional weight of money and identity. Paul shares what it felt like to walk away from Silicon Valley at 42, why he once considered himself a "rich l…
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Identity, belonging, and the real meaning of money and Judaism is covered in this episode with Rabbi Shira Stutman. Rabbi Shira and Carl navigate questions of tradition and community in today’s polarized world, the need to hold space for complexity—within ourselves and our institutions—and how embracing discomfort can spark growth, understanding, a…
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Is money dangerous? Could be. Is money powerful? Definitely. Can it corrupt? Of course. Can it liberate? Absolutely. Money is a mirror. —----------------------------- Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/50firespod/ Please direct business inquires to: [email protected] Cover Art: Josh Passler - TheFinArtist.com Music Cre…
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Breanna Rae Blainey is a financial wellness leader, entrepreneur, and co-founder of the Anya Institute for Human Revolution. She and Car unpack themes like control and the emotional energy we attach to our finances, offering practical tools like the "Triple A" framework—awareness, alignment, and action—to help navigate our relationship with money i…
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What if the boldest career move you ever made was stepping away? Neha Ruch, founder of Mother Untitled and author of The Power of Pause, joins Carl to unpack the layered experience of pausing a high-powered career to prioritize family — and rediscover a deeper sense of self. Neha shares her journey as the daughter of Indian immigrants, growing up a…
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Poet, Zen teacher, and memoirist Henry Shukman joins Carl for a conversation that explores what it truly means to live freely. Through stories from Henry’s life—including his youthful encounters with a wandering tramp named “Speedy” and the spiritual revelations that shaped his memoir One Blade of Grass—they dive into profound ideas of freedom, eno…
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Singer-Songwriter Susan Werner joins Carl for a deeply personal conversation that weaves together her upbringing on a midwest farm, her financial philosophy, and how it intersects with her pursuit of creative integrity. From the sound of coins jingling in her father’s pocket as a young child to the smell of manure—“the smell of money” on an Iowa fa…
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What should we do to protect our finances and investments right now? First off, when markets get scary? We should avoid chasing predictions. It turns out that creating financial resilience is not about making perfect predictions about what’s coming next. It’s about building a life that can adapt to whatever arrives. This approach works, regardless …
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Carl tackles the fear and uncertainty that often accompanies volatile markets (are you feeling a little bit of that right about now?), with a reassuring reminder that market fluctuations are normal. Carl emphasizes the importance of staying focused on long-term goals rather than reacting emotionally to short-term market movements. —----------------…
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Making tough financial decisions can be overwhelming, especially when emotions and biases come into play. In this mini episode of 50 Fires, Carl shares a powerful mental tool he calls The Overnight Test. This simple yet effective exercise helps navigate the inertia of holding onto investments, properties, or even routines that no longer serve us. T…
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Peter Singer may be, as The New Yorker calls him, the planet’s “most influential living philosopher." He has written the classic text Practical Ethics, The Expanding Circle, The Life You Can Save (which gave rise to the organization of the same name) and Pushing Time Away (an account of the life and fate of his grandfather, a victim of the Holocaus…
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Katie Gatti Tassin, the creator of the Money with Katie Podcast, joins Carl to explore the personal and philosophical sides of money. Katie shares her journey from launching a personal finance blog to selling it to Morning Brew, and how that experience reshaped her views on wealth, work, and independence. Together, they dive into Katie’s early memo…
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At 54 years old, Kevin Dahlstrom has discovered the secret to ‘enough.’ A four-time CMO, founder, rock climber, father, and husband, Kevin joins Carl to explore themes of career control and the true importance of aligning one’s life with personal values. They discuss strategies for gaining control over one’s career, the significance of unstructured…
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Celebrated author Pam Houston describes her extraordinary journey with Carl in this inspiring episode —from a childhood shaped by financial anxiety to finding solace and purpose in the natural world. Pam shares the remarkable story of how she bought her beloved ranch in Wyoming with just 4.7% down and a signed copy of her first book, the life lesso…
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Joshua Becker is best known as a minimalist. He’s the founder of Becoming Minimalist and the bestselling author of books like The Minimalist Home and The More Of Less. In this episode, Carl and Joshua discuss the paradoxes of wealth and happiness, the impact of cultural expectations on spending, and the importance of aligning financial decisions wi…
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Libby is joined for a walk by entrepreneur and Creative Mornings founder Tina Roth Eisenberg. Tina walked around the snowy pond near her house, where they discussed the origins of Creative Mornings, a global creative community prioritizing face-to-face interaction in an ever digitized world. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram…
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What happens when passion meets financial reality? In this episode of 50 Fires, Carl sits down with artist Daren Thomas Magee, the creative mind behind Real Fun, Wow. Daren opens up about the challenges of making a living as an artist, the unfiltered realities of financial ups and downs, and his unique approach to staying grounded despite financial…
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Have you ever caught yourself making a decision about money—big or small—and thought, Wait. Whose voice is that in my head? Is this really me? Or is it the voice of my parents, a professor, society, or maybe even fear? Dr. Gena Gorlin understands this deeply and has spent significant time unraveling this pattern of thinking. As a clinical psycholog…
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Libby is joined for a walk by meditation teacher and "Live Awake" podcast host Sarah Blondin. Sarah joined Libby on a snowy walk near her home in Canada, where she lives with her family and this walk is a reminder to hold the tender moments of our lives with gratitude and love. Keep in touch: https://www.thismorningwalk.com/ Instagram: @thismorning…
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Alex and Libby reconnect to share their words of the year for 2025. Alex shares her transformative fitness journey in 2024, revealing how she embraced her body and mind through intentional wellness choices—without focusing on numbers on a scale. Libby reflects on turning 63 soon and redefining strength in all aspects of her life, from physical resi…
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What happens when you spend $200,000 a year but only make $30,000? In this lively episode, Carl dives into the numbers with Joel Stein—one of America’s wittiest cultural commentators—to explore his unique experiences with money. From renting Lamborghinis to hosting billionaires at Burning Man, Joel’s journalism career has granted him access to expe…
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