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If you are a church planter, soon to be church planter, or leader of an established church, that is looking for more insight and direction on what God is doing through church planting to reach the lost, then this is the podcast for you! Every week, the creators behind Church Planter Magazine, Pete Mitchell and Peyton Jones, deliver a powerful, funny, raw and relevant hour on church planting issues, solutions, and stories. Subscribe to it now for the low-low price of FREE!
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Ep. 317 Zach Windahl - Rediscovering the Beauty, Power, and Story of the Bible
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53:02Many struggle with the Bible not because it’s irrelevant, but because we’ve never been given the full story. My guest today, Zach Windahl, went from confusion and disillusionment to falling in love with Scripture and now he’s helping others do the same. In this conversation, we trace Zach’s journey of rediscovery, unpack the sweeping narrative of t…
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CPP #598 – Emanuel Prinz on What Actually Starts Movements
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50:42Church movements are flourishing all over the world, and there's plenty of people lined up to share the secrets with you. But how many times do those movement "principles" really transfer? Not often. Emanuel Prinz has just finished the broadest research on movements to date, and he's made some discoveries on what factors catalyze movements, no matt…
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Ep. 316 Will Parker Anderson - Writing and Creating in the Tension: Faith, Ambition, and Identity
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55:55In this episode, I talk with Will Parker Anderson—writer, editor, and founder of The Writer’s Circle—about the tension we all feel between productivity and presence, business and ministry, hustle and holiness. Will brings clarity and honesty to the internal battle many creatives face: how do we create from a place of joy, not just ambition? How do …
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Ep. 315 Heather Thompson Day - Your Circumstances Aren't Your Story
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48:18In this episode, I'm joined by Heather Thompson Day, whose insights challenge our perceptions of success, passion, and the presence of God in our lives. Heather boldly explores the idea that our true story isn't found in the circumstances we face, but rather in how we respond to them. We dive into themes from her powerful book, What If I'm Wrong?, …
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CPP #597 – Joshua Branham on What Are You Waiting For?
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56:20God has a pattern of using young and inexperienced people to do his work...and yet we rarely do the same. More often than not, we require leaders and church planters to have many years of experience before we give them any responsibility. The result? The average age of pastors is steadily increasing and, eventually, our leadership pipelines will dr…
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Ep. 314 Daniel Hummel - The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism
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1:02:00In this episode, historian Daniel Hummel joins me to discuss the fascinating rise and decline of dispensationalism, a theological movement deeply embedded in American evangelicalism. Daniel shares his personal journey growing up in a dispensationalist environment, exploring its roots with John Nelson Darby, its influence post-Civil War, and its wid…
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Episode 202: A Look at Colossae and Colossians with Dr. Clinton Arnold
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39:56After nearly four decades of research and patient anticipation, biblical scholar Dr. Clint Arnold joins the Ephesiology Podcast to reflect on his life’s work in the ancient city of Colossae—a city long buried but rich in theological relevance. In this fascinating episode, Dr. Arnold shares the backstory behind his groundbreaking scholarship on Colo…
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Ep. 313 Nicholas McDonald - Rediscovering the Love, Beauty, and Freedom of Jesus in an Age of Disillusionment
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56:09What happens when the gospel you were handed no longer makes sense of the pain, beauty, or complexity of the world you’re actually living in? In this conversation, I sit down with Nicholas McDonald, pastor and author of The Light in Our Eyes, to explore the tensions between disillusionment and hope, escape and embodiment, cynicism and renewal. Nich…
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CPP #596 – Microchurch: Hype or Holy Spirit
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45:01Unlike other hot topics in the ministry world – like discipleship or leadership – not everyone thinks microchurch is a good idea. It's become a polarizing factor: are you pro microchurch or pro megachurch? Is microchurch of the Holy Spirit or the devil? In this episode, Peyton and Pete discuss the controversy and what they think about building comm…
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Ep. 312 Angie Ward - Reimagining Church and Parachurch: From Institutional Competition to Missional Extensions
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47:11What happens when the institutions we’ve trusted start to crumble and we realize they were never meant to carry the weight we gave them? Today, I’m joined by Angie Ward. She invites us into a deep reimagining of the Church, not just as a building or an organization, but as a Spirit-formed people living on mission together. Angie has spent decades i…
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Episode 201: The Roman Roads with Dr. Mark Wilson
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35:51What happens when ancient roads, buried ruins, and early Christian communities collide with the modern missionary imagination? In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Dr. Mark Wilson—renowned scholar and director of the Asia Minor Research Center—joins Michael and Andrew for a captivating journey where archaeology meets missiology. From walking…
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Ep. 311 Naeem Fazal - Encountering Jesus, Creating Beauty, Finding Hope
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50:36Today, we have a powerful and deeply honest conversation with Naeem Fazal, author of "Tomorrow Needs You." Naeem grew up in Kuwait in a Pakistani Muslim family, survived the Gulf War, and eventually found himself in the U.S. grappling with questions of identity, fear, and faith. What followed was a series of raw, spiritual encounters that opened hi…
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CPP #595 – Christina Rivera on Healthy Leadership and Community
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1:04:40The weight of spiritual leadership has a tendency to distort our ideas of how to create a healthy culture of community and leadership. Rather than being open-handed and valuing people for their own sake and insights, leaders sometimes become fearful of failure exert too much control. Christina Rivera shares her story of being in high control faith …
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Ep. 310 Margaret Feinberg - Discovering the Holy Spirit from Genesis to Today
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52:54What comes to mind when you hear “Holy Spirit”? For some of us, it’s confusion, baggage, or maybe just silence. We’ve either over-sensationalized it or under-taught it. But what if we’ve missed the depth and presence of the Spirit because we’ve skipped the beginning of the story? In this conversation, I talk with Margaret Feinberg about rediscoveri…
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Episode 200: Presence Based Witness with David E. Fitch
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40:56Welcome to the 200th episode of the Ephesiology Podcast and our series Christ in Your Context, where we explore why Jesus is good news—right where you are. In this milestone conversation, we’re joined by theologian, pastor, and cultural exegete Dr. David E. Fitch. Together, we unpack the complex cultural moment we inhabit and why presence—not progr…
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Ep. 309 Terry Crist Returns - Stop Running and Rest in the Refuge of God
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1:03:54Terry Crist returns to Shifting Culture to talk about the transformative power of rest, the necessity of Sabbath, and finding true refuge in God. Terry, an experienced pastor and insightful communicator, helps us rethink productivity, loneliness, bitterness, and forgiveness, inviting us into a deeper relationship with God's perfect love. In this ep…
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Your character shapes the people around and impacts the effectiveness of your ministry. Mac Lake joins Pete and Peyton in this episode to discuss the ins and outs of leading yourself well. They cover emotional intelligence, teachability, and how to change leadership development from being content-oriented to process-oriented. Resources and Links Me…
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Ep. 308 Emanuel Prinz - What Actually Starts Movements
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53:54In this conversation with Emanuel Prinz, we dig into his latest research, exploring what actually catalyzes movements, the kinds of leaders and teams that sustain them, and what blocks them from taking root. We’ll talk about the personal and spiritual qualities of movement catalysts, why reproducibility matters more than charisma, and how partnerin…
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Episode 199: Covocational Missionary Living with Brad Brisco
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45:41On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael are joined by Brad Brisco, missional strategist and leading voice in co-vocational church planting. Brad shares insights from decades of experience mobilizing church planters, and why the growing reality of co-vocational leadership is not just a necessity—but a strategic, theological re…
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Ep. 307 Shane J. Wood - Encountering Jesus in the Book of Revelation
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54:22For a lot of people, Revelation is the Bible’s great mystery—full of wild images and swirling predictions, often left to collect dust or to stir up arguments about the end times. But beneath all the confusion, Revelation also speaks to something deeply human: our ache for intimacy, our struggle with loneliness, and our longing to know that God is c…
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Did Peyton die? Is the podcast finished? These are the questions you've been asking, and now, there are answers. Peyton Jones returns to the Church Planter Podcast with Pete Mitchell! They catch up in this episode and talk Discipology, ChatGPT, and whether they'll ever have an AI co-host. Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode: Reliant Missi…
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Ep. 306 Molly Worthen - Spellbound: The Power and Peril of Charisma in America
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58:30Charisma is a word we hear all the time, but what does it really mean? Why are some leaders able to draw people in, while others push us away? I’ve been fascinated by this for years, wondering why we’re drawn to certain people, what makes us follow, and how charisma shapes our lives in ways we don’t always notice. In a culture where stories and lea…
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We have conversations about the culture we create and the impact we can make. With different guests each podcast episode, we have in-depth interviews into what it looks like to live in the Kingdom of God and embody Jesus in the world. We long for a more compassionate and love-oriented world to live in. Support the show…
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Ep. 305 Cara Meredith - Church Camp, Conformity, and the Call to Something More
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50:46Today, I’m joined by Cara Meredith, author of the new book Church Camp. We’re digging into the ways camp shapes our faith, our friendships, and our sense of who belongs. We get real about the fun memories, but also the uncomfortable parts—who was included, who was left out, and what messages we picked up along the way. Cara and I talk about how cam…
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Ep. 304 Erin Moniz - Knowing and Being Known: Expanding and Redefining Intimacy
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56:00In today's episode, we're exploring intimacy - a concept that's far more complex than most of us realize. My guest, Erin Moniz, has been studying how we connect, disconnect, and misunderstand relationships in our current cultural moment. We'll dig into some critical questions: What does intimacy actually mean beyond romantic relationships? How have…
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Episode 198: Grappling with Artificial Intelligence with C. Ben Mitchell
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1:01:02Is AI helping us flourish as humans—or quietly unraveling the very things that make us human in the first place? In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, ethicist and cultural commentator Dr. C. Ben Mitchell joins Michael and Andrew for a deeply reflective conversation on artificial intelligence, ethics, embodiment, and what it means to bear God…
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Ep. 303 Kelly Kapic - Embracing Our Limits and Discovering Our Humanity
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51:18If you're like me, you probably know what it feels like to chase after a never-ending to-do list, trying to squeeze every bit of productivity out of your days, only to end up exhausted and wondering if you're missing something vital. Today's conversation might be exactly what you need. My guest is theologian and author Kelly Kapic. Kelly is a profe…
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CPP #592 – How Technology is Shaping the Church
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24:53Forces far beyond our reach are shaping the world around us, and the Church is not built for the community of the future. This episode features a presentation by Chestly Lunday to the heads of technology for major corporations. In it, he explains how the Church got to its current point, why we need to change, and what about our churches need to cha…
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Ep. 302 Arianna Molloy - How We Can Find and Maintain a Healthy Calling
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57:11Today we're talking about something that impacts all of us - our calling and how we can pursue meaningful work without burning out. I'm sitting down with Arianna Molloy, author of "Healthy Calling," to unpack what it really means to live out our purpose without getting crushed by pressure and expectations. We'll explore some critical questions: Wha…
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Ep. 301 Eric Clayton - Finding Peace Here and Now
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57:14We are living in a world that seems to be unraveling at the seams - where chaos, polarization, and anxiety have become our default settings - we need a different way of being. Today, I'm sitting down with Eric Clayton, who's been wrestling with the question: What if peace isn't just the absence of conflict, but a transformative way of living? Eric'…
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Ep. 300 Manny Arango - Crushing the Chaos of Our Lives
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54:19Chaos isn't just a word, it's the underlying current of our human experience. Today, we're diving deep with Manny Arango into the biblical roots of disorder, exploring how chaos existed before sin and how God's design always intended for humans to bring order to the wild. We'll unpack the six-step cycle of chaos in scripture, examine why peace isn'…
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Ep. 299 David Sunde - Homegrown Disciples: Faith Formation in the Family
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56:24What if discipleship isn’t something we outsource, but something we embody, right where we are? In this episode, I sit down with David Sunde for a grounded and hopeful conversation about raising homegrown disciples. We talk about parenting, presence, and the slow, incarnational work of forming our families in the way of Jesus. David invites us to m…
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Ep. 298 Andrew Arndt Returns - How the Story of Jesus Changes the Way We See Everything
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52:51Andrew Arndt is back on the podcast today. He’s a pastor and author who's challenging how we typically understand the gospel. His new book, "A Strange and Gracious Light," explores what it means to see Jesus as a living presence that intersects with our real, complicated lives. We'll discuss how the gospel isn't just about personal salvation or aft…
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Episode 197: Christograms and Christian Graffiti with Dr. Daniel Hays
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57:18On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael talk with Dr. Danny Hays, Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at Ouachita Baptist University and expert in Old Testament and archaeology. They explore the fascinating world of early Christian graffiti, focusing particularly on the Ichthus Christogram—an eight-spoked symbol etched int…
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Ep. 297 A.J. Swoboda - A Teachable Spirit
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49:02A.J. Swoboda is back on the podcast for the third time. This time we are sitting down to talk about A Teachable Spirit. He hit on something that I think is sorely missing in this world today: being teachable. In a world often drawn sharply into polarized camps, where dialogue seems overshadowed by ideological extremes, cultivating a teachable spiri…
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The Fully-Funded Church Planter #2 – Why You Need to Fundraise
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44:01If you're church planting in difficult soil rather than church starting, then it may not be possible to be self-sustaining in the standard three years that many organizations and donors expect. The economics play by different rules and so should your fundraising strategy. In this episode, Demeko share his experience planting in Houston and why it w…
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There's a geography of limitation that exists not on any map, but in the quiet territories of our own making. Stories that whisper: this is as far as you'll go. Today, we are talking with Mary Marantz - a woman who understands that our beginnings are not our boundaries. Growing up in a single-wide trailer on the tippy top of Fenwick Mountain, she l…
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Episode 196: The Underwater Bascilica with Dr. Mark Fairchild
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34:21On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael talk with Dr. Mark Fairchild, retired professor of Bible and Religion at Huntington University and renowned biblical archaeologist. They explore one of the most fascinating discoveries in early Christian history: the underwater basilica of Nicaea. Together, they unpack the rich spiritua…
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Ep. 295 David Zahl Returns - The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World
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50:57Today, we’re getting into the raw, unvarnished terrain of human longing - that aching space where despair meets unexpected grace. I’m excited to welcome back David Zahl on the podcast. He isn't here to offer another self-help platitude, but to explore something far more profound: how we find relief in a world that constantly demands more, faster, b…
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CPP #591 – Eric Bennett on Near-Death Experiences, Gen Z, and the Future of Faith
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55:02What happens when someone dies and comes back? In this episode, Chestly Lunday sits down with Eric Bennett, creator of the Round Trip Death podcast, who has interviewed hundreds of people who have experienced near-death experiences (NDEs). With nearly 2 million downloads, Eric’s conversations explore the intersection of spiritual encounters, scient…
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Ep. 294 Jared Brock Returns - Right-Sizing the Devil: Who is He Really?
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49:01Today, we're having a conversation that will challenge what you think you know about the devil, evil, temptation, and spiritual warfare. Jared Brock is back with us - if you remember our last incredible conversation about Jesus, where we unpacked the human life of Christ and the political imagination of his time, you know Jared brings profound theo…
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Ep. 293 Sister Monica Clare - From the Ad Agency and Stand-Up Comedy to Becoming a Nun
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48:09Today, we're diving into the journey of Sister Monica Clare - a woman who went from working in advertising and doing stand-up comedy to becoming a nun. Her story is a powerful testament to finding who you truly are and discovering a deeper connection with God. We'll explore her path of discernment, her experiences in religious community, and how sh…
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Episode 195: What Actually Starts Movements with Emanuel Prinz
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46:48On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael sit down Dr. Emanuel Prinz—researcher, author, practitioner, professor, and soon-to-be PhD in International Theological Education. With stories of rebel leaders laying down their weapons and whole villages turning to Christ, Emanuel invites us into a world where communal conversion, cat…
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We live in a world often defined by borders, fear, and division, but what if we could reimagine migration not as a threat, but as a sacred journey? Today, we're diving into a conversation that challenges what we think we know about immigrants, hospitality, and what it truly means to love our neighbor. I'm sitting down with Isaac Villegas, a Mennoni…
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In this episode, Brooks Hamon sits down with Pastor Jeff Kapusta of Lifepoint Church in Wilmington, NC—a seasoned church planter, leader of a thriving faith community, and author of the new book Fully Alive: God’s Will for Everyone Everywhere. Jeff shares the surprising journey that led him to write Fully Alive—including a vocal cord injury that si…
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Ep. 291 John Kasich - How Faith Communities are Building Hope From the Bottom Up
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48:12Today, we're sitting down with John Kasich, former Governor of Ohio and a passionate advocate for community-driven change. In his new book 'Heaven Help Us', Kasich explores how faith institutions can be powerful catalysts for solving local problems. We'll dive into stories of everyday people who are making real differences in their communities, fro…
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We have a bonus episode for you today. I was recently on the Follow 2 Lead podcast hosted by Tony Miltenberger. And Tony was recently on Shifting Culture, so we decided to give you a glimpse of each other's shows by airing our episodes. So, enjoy. Let me know what you think. Find the Follow 2 Lead podcast anywhere you get podcasts. Subscribe to Our…
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Episode 194: Researching Missiology and Archaeology
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54:15On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael dive into the soil, stones, and stories of Asia Minor to uncover how the early church lived out its faith amid empire, beauty, and persecution. Join us as we welcome guests Michelle Wegner, Dave Brunelle, and Wade Mantlo—fellow travelers who recently returned from a transformative archa…
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Ep. 290 Aimee Byrd Returns - Unmasking the Faces We Hide Behind
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52:54Today, I'm talking with Aimee Byrd—an author who often pushes us to question norms we usually take for granted. If you've ever felt the pressure to put on a mask or hide parts of who you really are, you'll find this conversation meaningful. In her latest book, "Saving Face," Aimee dives into the masks we all wear, the ways we conceal ourselves, and…
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CPP #589 – Aubrey Sampson on What We Find in the Dark
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49:41Sometimes life hits you unexpectedly. Sometimes it's hard to feel the presence of God. Sometimes you just need a break. In this episode, Aubrey Sampson shares her experiences with grief, including the death of her best friend and co-planter. She explains why we need to practice lament and how to model these situations for our churches. Resources an…
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