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Two Shrinks and a Mic

Dr. Andrew Rosen & Dr. David Gross

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Psychologist Dr. Andrew Rosen and psychiatrist Dr. David Gross bring over 30 years of friendship and mental health experience to the mic. Each episode breaks down topics like anxiety, depression, and relationships into real talk you can actually use. Honest, insightful, and easy to understand—this is the conversation about mental health you've been waiting for.
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Oh That's Cool!

Jared Durden

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Jared Durden and Andrew Crocker set out to meet their coworkers at Ozarks Technical Community College. Each episodes introduces a new member of the college who teaches Jared and Andrew something they didn't know before. Join Jared and Andrew on their adventure as they learn about a broad range of fascinating topics, their colleagues, and maybe even friendship.
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Change Happens

EY - Ernst & Young, Jenelle McMaster

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Few have the ability to tell the human stories of driving change in business like EY Regional Deputy CEO and People and Culture Leader for Oceania, Jenelle McMaster. In the Change Happens podcast series, Jenelle reveals how to apply the unique lessons learned by top leaders, who harness the transformative power of change, to tackle the biggest issues businesses face today. Through story and conversation, Jenelle highlights the importance of workplace culture and how leaders are using technol ...
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Growing mentally stronger will change your life and therapist Amy Morin wants to show you how to make it happen. Whether you want to improve your mental health, boost your resilience, gain emotional intelligence, or gain a competitive edge that will help you reach your greatest potential, this show is for you. Mentally Stronger provides therapist-approved strategies for tackling the biggest battle we all face--the one in our minds. Webby Award-Winning Host Amy Morin is a psychotherapist and ...
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Do you ever feel like someone knows exactly how to push your buttons — and it leaves you spiraling long after your interaction? Whether it’s a snide comment, a frustrating situation, or an awkward interaction, triggers can feel like they’re controlling your emotions. But what if those triggers were actually trying to teach you something? Triggers c…
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Work through today’s strategies with a free, interactive too — Episode 230 exercise. Have you ever felt like life has hit you so hard that it knocked the wind out of you? Maybe you're in one of those moments right now, wondering how to even take the next step. In this deeply personal episode, I’m sharing the seven strategies that helped me navigate…
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In this episode of Two Shrinks and a Mic, Dr. David Gross (psychiatrist) and Dr. Andrew Rosen (psychologist) unpack the layered, often misunderstood experience of anxiety. From the history of anxiety as a "wastebasket diagnosis" to its modern-day complexities, they dive into the physical and cognitive symptoms, why language matters when describing …
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Are the stories you tell yourself holding you back? After all, there's always more than one way to tell the same story. You could be a victim of tragic circumstances or a hero who survived them. The way we interpret our past influences our identities, but it doesn’t have to define who we are forever. This week, I’m joined by Lauren Sisler, a sports…
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Are you thriving, or do you feel like you are barely surviving? If you feel stuck in survival mode, you are not alone. It is common, but you don't have to stay there. Survival mode is helpful in a crisis. But staying stuck there too long can leave you feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, and unable to enjoy life fully. Fortunately, there are strategies …
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In this reflective and refreshingly honest episode of Two Shrinks and a Mic, Dr. Andrew Rosen and Dr. David Gross open up about how they stumbled into their professions—and how the field has evolved (and been challenged) over the decades. From imposter syndrome and blank-screen training to the frustrations of managed care and the rising tide of exi…
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You've likely heard about the importance of living abundantly and giving up a scarcity mindset, but how do you actually do that? Knowing how to let go of a scarcity mindset and doing it are two different things. Attachments can weigh us down, keeping us stuck in old thought patterns and limiting our potential for growth and happiness. This week, I’…
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How much control do you have over your life? Do you think life happens to you? Or do you believe you have the power to shape it? On this episode of Mentally Stronger, we’re exploring the psychology of control, also known as "locus of control." Your belief about who or what is in control of your life has a huge impact on your mental strength. Unders…
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What if improving your mental health and physical well-being could be as simple as understanding one nerve in your body? Research shows your vagus nerve plays a powerful role in your well-being. This week, I’m joined by Dr. Kevin Tracey, a world-renowned neurosurgeon and pioneering researcher, to explore the vagus nerve and how improving your vagal…
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What if everything you’ve been told about emotions is wrong? Emotional intelligence is important but there's a lot of misinformation about emotions that are holding people back. On this episode, I’m exposing eight common myths about emotions that keep us stuck and make it hard to grow mentally stronger. From the idea that venting your feelings help…
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What happens when two mental health professionals—one psychiatrist, one psychologist—sit down to unpack the history, tension, and surprising synergy between their fields? In this candid and deeply human episode, Dr. David Gross and Dr. Andrew Rosen share personal stories from decades in the field, reflecting on how outdated systems, insurance-drive…
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Do you think of rest as a luxury instead of a necessity? Or maybe you can’t seem to rest even when you try? This week, I’m joined by Dr. Therese Huston, a cognitive scientist and psychologist who specializes in brain health. Dr. Huston breaks down why rest is crucial for building mental strength and shares actionable techniques to give your brain t…
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What if decluttering your life could make room for more energy, joy, and freedom? Have you ever felt weighed down by the physical, emotional, or mental clutter in your life? This week, I’m breaking down five key areas where decluttering can make life simpler and more meaningful. From tidying up your spaces to reassessing relationships, we’re coveri…
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In this powerful episode of Two Shrinks and a Mic, Dr. David Gross and Dr. Andrew Rosen break down the often-overlooked journey from silent suffering to seeking support. They explore how subtle emotional shifts—like struggling to get out of bed, losing interest in life, or constantly spinning in negative thoughts—can be warning signs that it's time…
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Our struggles often feel isolating. But talking about them, even when it's uncomfortable, can be the key to growth and healing. Today's guest, Carnie Wilson, co-founder of the world famous musical group Wilson Phillips, understands the importance of vulnerability. From navigating fame and a multigenerational legacy in music (including her legendary…
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Does your mind race at night? Maybe you replay everything that went wrong during the day? Or maybe you lie awake worrying about tomorrow?You’re not alone. Asking yourself three simple questions every night can calm those thoughts, boost your emotional intelligence, and help you sleep better. These questions only take a couple of minutes to answer, …
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How do you really know when it's time to seek help? In this candid and thought-provoking episode, Dr. Andrew Rosen and Dr. David Gross—psychologist and psychiatrist with over 30 years of friendship and clinical experience—break down the signs that it might be time to seek mental health support. They unpack the lingering stigma around therapy, the d…
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Do you feel like your inner critic is trying to make you hate yourself? That deep-rooted feeling that you’re not good enough can quietly shape your life, but it doesn’t have to stay that way. I’m joined by Dr. Blaise Aguirre, professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and one of the top experts on self-hatred and borderline personality disor…
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Do you struggle to set boundaries that stick? You're not alone. Boundaries protect your time, energy, and mental well-being, yet many of us feel guilty or back down when faced with pushback. Fortunately, boundary setting is a skill, and just like any skill, you can get better with practice. This episode is all about helping you create boundaries yo…
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In the premiere episode of Two Shrinks and a Mic, Dr. Andrew Rosen and Dr. David Gross get real about what it’s like to blend psychology and psychiatry in a field that used to keep them miles apart. With nearly 40 years of collaboration, they reveal what most professionals won’t: the best mental health care happens when egos are dropped and minds s…
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Do you feel heard when you talk to people? Have you struggled to connect deeply with others in challenging moments? Validation could help you build trust, strengthen your relationships, and prevent miscommunications. But validation is often misunderstood. You don't have to agree with someone to validate them. No one knows this better than Dr. Carol…
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Research shows 70% of us will experience trauma at least once in our lives, but many won’t seek therapy to work through it. Whether it’s because therapy doesn’t feel right for you, it’s not accessible, or you want to supplement it with additional strategies, there are many ways to recover from a traumatic experience. From drum circles to spending t…
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Hey everyone, and welcome to Two Shrinks in a Mic. I'm Dr. Andrew Rosen, and I am Dr. David Gross, psychiatrist. We are two long -term friends and colleagues who have been working together in mental health for, well, longer than either of us probably want to admit. Let's just say over 30 years, and in that time we've seen a lot, how the world's cha…
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Revenge sounds like a good idea sometimes. Whether you want to get back at an ex or you want to hurt a coworker who wronged you, there's a reason why you might fantasize about getting even. It has to do with the way your brain works. Today's guest, James Kimmel Jr., is a researcher at Yale School of Medicine and the author of The Science of Revenge…
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Self-care often gets hailed as the ultimate fix for stress, burnout, and every mental health issue. But self-care is frequently misunderstood. Sometimes, it can be like putting a Band-Aid on a deeper wound. So if self-care isn't the cure-all answer, what really helps for long-term change? That's what I'm talking about today. Some of the things I sh…
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Introducing Mentally Strong! My new program provides feedback, advice, and mental strength-building tools at any time you need them. I've spent over a year working on this, and I can't wait for you to try it! Mentally Strong gives you access to 16 specialized AI mental strength coaches. Whether you want help creating a script to say no to someone o…
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High-functioning depression often goes unnoticed as people hide their struggles behind busy schedules and impressive achievements. But understanding and addressing these hidden challenges can help you find more joy and live a mentally stronger life. My guest is Dr. Judith Joseph, a Columbia-trained psychiatrist, clinical assistant professor, and le…
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Have you stopped to consider what you're feeding your brain every day? You wouldn’t fuel your body with junk food and expect peak performance. But many of us do exactly that with our minds. We doomscroll or binge watch stuff without giving it a second thought. But the things you read, watch, and engage with shape your mental strength. Just like you…
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Do you get so caught up in chasing goals or ticking off your to-do list that you forget to enjoy life along the way? Or maybe you’re stuck and unsure how to bring more fun into your daily routine? Or maybe you think mental strength and joy can't go hand-in-hand? Dr. Tiffany Moon is here to discuss the life-changing power of joy. She is an anesthesi…
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What if your mind could reverse aging? Well, research shows mindset plays a major role in your physical health and your appearance as you grow older. The famous Counterclockwise Experiment shows that your mindset has the power to rewind the clock. Other studies have also shown that specific mental strategies could be the real fountain of youth. Som…
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Do finances cause stress in your relationship? Have you and your partner avoided conversations about money? Or are you stuck arguing over small expenses like groceries and takeout? Money is one of the most significant sources of conflict in relationships, but it doesn’t have to be. Personal finance expert Ramit Sethi, host of the Netflix series How…
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When anxiety creeps in slowly (or skyrockets suddenly), you're going to want fast relief. With the right tools, you can calm yourself down right away. Anxiety is one of the most common mental health challenges, but often the advice given for managing it is long-term lifestyle changes that feel out of reach when you're in a state of panic. As a ther…
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What if breaking free from a victim mindset could help you move forward so you can reach your greatest potential? Whether you're convinced your self-esteem is too low to change or you believe you're a victim of your past mistakes, you can take steps to change your narrative. Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman is a professor of psychology at Columbia Universit…
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When life feels overwhelming, it’s easy to assume the answers are out of reach. But sometimes, the solution to your biggest problem is one you already have. Often, when we’re stuck, it’s not because we lack strength or resources—but because our emotions cloud our judgment and make it hard to see a way forward. The good news is that there's a strate…
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Today, we’re stepping into one of the most urgent conversations in tech right now: bias in artificial intelligence. Tracey Spicer AM is a Walkley Award-winning journalist, author, and longtime activist for gender equity. In this episode, she unpacks the unseen biases coded into the technologies we use every day—and what happens when we leave them u…
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What if the key to unlocking your best mental and physical health lies in a part of your self-care routine that’s been overlooked? Your hormones impact everything from your mood and energy to your brain health and longevity. Today’s guest, Dr. Erika Schwartz, is a pioneer in hormone health and the founder of Evolved Science. With over 30 years of e…
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Much has changed since I wrote my book 13 Things Mentally Strong People Don't Do. Smartphones now dominate the world, news spreads over social media, and new conveniences have reshaped how we interact with the world. While the principles of mental strength remain the same, we need to adjust our strategies to stay mentally strong. Some of the things…
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Send us a text In this special episode of Oh That's Cool, we sit down with Dr. Tracy McGrady, Provost at Ozarks Technical Community College, for a heartfelt and inspiring conversation as she prepares to retire this May. Dr. McGrady reflects on her journey through higher education, shares stories from her time at OTC, and offers wisdom on leadership…
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Do you feel self-disciplined when you have a good routine? But are there times when you crave a little spontaneity and adventure? Exploring new places, doing different things, and mixing things up can be key to personal growth and more joy in life. But it's important to find a balance. Alex Hutchinson knows this better than anyone. With a PhD in Ph…
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As a therapist, I've seen how therapy can be a powerful tool that helps people transform their lives. But, therapy isn't the only way to improve your mental health. There are many other ways that don't involve talking. Whether you're not interested in therapy, you didn't find it helpful, or therapy isn't accessible, you don't need to see a professi…
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What if the secret to healing your mind lies in the small choices you make every day? Today’s guest, psychiatrist and best-selling author Dr. Drew Ramsey, shares powerful insights on how modern habits are impacting our mental health and how we can reclaim mental fitness through intentional lifestyle changes. Dr. Ramsey is a leading expert in nutrit…
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When life feels overwhelming, busyness often becomes our go-to escape. But what if staying constantly busy isn’t a solution, but a way to avoid dealing with what’s really bothering us? This week, we’re exploring why we cling to busyness and how it might be holding us back from true growth. Whether you’re burned out, anxious, or unsure how to face y…
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Are you stuck thinking, "This is just who I am?" Think again. Science shows your personality might not be as fixed as you think. Olga Khazan knows this firsthand. As a journalist and author, she embarked on a journey to change her personality. And now she's discovering what she learned. Some of the things we discuss are: The five core personality t…
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When life throws you curveballs, it’s not just one problem to tackle. Often, challenges arrive like dominos, and it can feel impossible to move forward. That's why it's important to build resilience. Whether you're dealing with personal loss, financial struggles, or emotional roadblocks, there are science-backed strategies that can help you handle …
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If you haven't already, be sure to go back and listen to Part 1 of this episode with renowned social demographer Bernard Salt, where he lays the groundwork for understanding the dynamics at play in our society. From the housing market to the care economy and labour force participation, Bernard explores the challenges and opportunities ahead, advoca…
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What if the secret to building mental strength lies in magic? Today’s guest, New York Times bestselling author Brad Meltzer, reveals insights on resilience, empathy, and personal transformation using the metaphor of magic tricks. Brad is a celebrated novelist, children’s book author, and storyteller whose viral University of Michigan commencement s…
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Do you catch yourself scrolling through social media and suddenly feeling like you're not doing enough? Whether it’s someone’s dream vacation, the perfect family photo, or an impressive career milestone, comparison culture can quietly erode your confidence and mental strength. But it doesn’t have to. In today's episode I talk about how constant com…
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Do you dislike conflict? Do you feel like you need to win arguments? Conflict can actually improve your relationships when you know how to handle it well. My guest today is Dr. John Eliot. He's a renowned advisor to professional sports teams, coaches, and athletes who specializes in health and performance enhancement. He is also the co-author of th…
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Personal growth isn't about a monumental overnight transformation. Instead, it's a series of small consistent actions that shape us over time. Some of the things I share are: The psychology and science behind the compound effect How micro wins can boost confidence and lead to significant success The science behind tiny habits The biggest mistake th…
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Do you feel awkward in video meetings? Do your text messages get misunderstood? Do you worry about the tone you convey in your emails? Virtual communication can be tricky — unless you know the strategies to master it. Professor Andrew Brodsky says virtual communication can help us grow closer and get more done once we understand the science behind …
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