Best I Never Thought It Would Happen Podcasts (2025)

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S5 Ep9: INTIWH - Amy MacDonald 36:32

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"We all take music for granted, really. But it's kind of with us through every memorable part of our lives. And to just have it as such a meaningful occupation, but to not properly support the people that make it seems absolutely crazy" - Amy MacDonald Joining Chris for this episode is singer-songwriter Amy MacDonald, who's fate was sealed when she…

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CRC Synod 2025 Post-Plenary Monday 1:09:00

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By Paul Vander Klay

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If I Ruled the World: Creating Chaos with Anele and Sizwe [VIDEO] 1:22:21

17h ago1:22:21

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This round of If I Ruled the World is going down in South Africa. Trevor invites friends-of-the-show Anele Mdoda and Sizwe Dhlomo to give ruling the world a try. Elections. Human Connection. Mandatory commuting. It’s all in the timing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

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Nick whole storyNic's Whole Story: Illness, Demons, Doctors, Family, Baby, Church, Healing. 2018 to 2025 3:10:29

1d ago3:10:29

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Nick was an early Rando. First talk Oct 2018. https://youtu.be/PqL4tjqLACA Next he spoke about the Medical establishment and enduring it. https://youtu.be/sdRmehU9sUY Recently he got in touch and wanted to share his new religious join in his entering an Orthodox church. https://youtu.be/smGcEAdDr1M I thought it would be good to put them all togethe…

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The Protestant Megachurch Conversation You've Been Waiting For 2:36:11

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Eric Hamilton lives in California Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Bridges of meaning https://discord.gg/tWDuYmBB Estuary Hub L…

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I Just Got Shot, and Boy Does It Hurt 36:15

4d ago36:15

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At 11 years old, Tere survives on a raft after her family is murdered and the yacht they were on sinks. Christa is doing volunteer work in Haiti when a 7.0 earthquake hits collapsing the house around her. Brian is a truck driver at a rest stop for then night when his truck is broken into and he is shot. Pretty Litter - Go to PrettyLitter.com/Surviv…

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Nic goes Orthodox and finds Healing and Hope in Community and Liturgy 53:10

6d ago53:10

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This is Nic's third check in. His first "rando" was in 2018 when he was still battling illness. Here was our first talk. https://youtu.be/PqL4tjqLACA In his second one he talked about Jordan Peterson's Russian episode and Benzos. https://youtu.be/sdRmehU9sUY Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Mid…

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What Happened when Kale's Mom learned Fasting was made Optional 1:27:50

8d ago1:27:50

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https://firstthings.com/the-end-of-the-age-of-hitler/ @thekalezelden Living Through The Council https://youtu.be/KV3kcxoUJpM?si=OueK8ZiBtqf25ksr @AndrewKlavan Trump's Nationalism Signals a Return to Strength | R.R. Reno https://youtu.be/g9qCjmF-JAM?si=I1P7uImGlgoyr7Oq @transfigured3673 Kale Zelden & Hank Kruse - The Future of Catholicism https://yo…

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Meet Jon Stewart – One of My Favorite People [VIDEO] 1:46:23

8d ago1:46:23

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Trevor sits down with Jon Stewart in an epic episode of "My Favorite People". The two talk life, comedy, their experiences hosting The Daily Show, and the benefits of keeping one’s mind occupied. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesBy Spotify Studios

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The Success of Bonhoeffer's Religion-less Religion in the Post-War Consensus in America and the CRC 1:35:26

9d ago1:35:26

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@AndrewKlavan Trump's Nationalism Signals a Return to Strength | R.R. Reno https://youtu.be/g9qCjmF-JAM?si=fyX6JbNWE9qcuYMX The Pope and Mussolini: The Secret History of Pius XI and the Rise of Fascism in Europe https://amzn.to/4jLkaK8 (Affiliate Link) https://firstthings.com/the-end-of-the-age-of-hitler/ https://www.crcna.org/sites/default/files…

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From Estuaries to Megas, How we Meet Together is how we Address AI 43:38

10d ago43:38

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The Protestant Megachurch Conversation You've Been Waiting For https://youtu.be/KkXBUydz_Mw The Chino conference Quest for a Spiritual Home Playlist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7sjwfO3nmk&list=PLYSXopxC8Z9t8H2YsaUOoNv-qSUlFJFlk John Vervaeke and Paul Vander Klay Dialogue about the Quest for a Spiritual Home https://youtu.be/Txw9OscbroE?si=EoSV…

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Any Time You Believe A Man Is God You're Brainwashed 35:46

11d ago35:46

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Amber is 9 years old when her adoptive parents move the family to Utah where they become involved in a fundamentalist mormon cult known as the Zionist society. Khalil is a college student when a friend introduces him and his fiancée to the Nation of Yahweh. Elishah was born into the Tony and Susan Alamo Christian Foundation, where here parents were…

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The Evangelical To Metagelical Pipeline: How the Emerging became Orthodox and Beyond 1:03:16

12d ago1:03:16

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Protestant Megachurch Conversation. https://youtu.be/KkXBUydz_Mw @GospelSimplicity Why Jordan Peterson Confuses Everyone https://youtu.be/N9OqoylG9NE?si=ZlkWqXfD_TOuZ8k_ @rationalityrules @JonathanPageau Rationality Rules - Possibilities and Limits of Metaphorical Truth https://youtu.be/D2Sdas8_c04?si=xr0UiheVQBgF165p https://youtu.be/smGcEAdDr1M N…

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Everybody Wants to Rule the World. Few People Wish to Gain it like Jesus 18:13

13d ago18:13

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Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Bridges of meaning https://discord.gg/tWDuYmBB Estuary Hub Link https://www.estuaryhub.com/ If…

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What if the Prodigal Returns to find a Broken Home? 2:49:58

14d ago2:49:58

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Our regular Friday Estuary Livestream. This week with: Amanda Cedric Roy Jeremy Sandy Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Bridges …

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Megachurches are Evolutions of Sustained Revivalism 14:32

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Taken from a conversation with Eric Hamilton https://youtu.be/KkXBUydz_Mw Conversation with ⁨@mcmosav⁩ https://youtu.be/w9CHtNJD0Mc?si=tTYm_5ycQK-HAxMU ⁨@solamediaorg⁩ Trusting God in the Face of Death: My Last Conversation with Tim Keller https://youtu.be/IAkTnhdQkY8?si=Fr9Ky-qAPTO03IQQ Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channe…

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Post-War-Consensus-Quasi-Religion Penetrates Unseen to Shape Beneath and Betweenodies 1:14:06

15d ago1:14:06

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Understanding John Vervaeke's Advent of the Sacred with Jonathan Pageau https://youtu.be/CsGkQ2HexJE?si=SEcgvSi2t0i3obcN ⁨@SkyNews⁩ Will Putin go nuclear after Ukraine’s daring attacks? Michael Clarke answers your questions live https://www.youtube.com/live/IwMFegcHilM?si=ayqRVewDkCoFEA4o The Rise of Nuclear Fear Weart https://amzn.to/45Njmki ⁨@Lik…

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If I Ruled the World: Tressie McMillan Cottom Throws Down [VIDEO] 56:47

15d ago56:47

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For this round of If I Ruled the World, Trevor and Christiana and joined by friend-of-the-show Tressie McMillan Cottom. They’re trying to find ways to connect people and limit societal rot; one quarterly report, character count, and service job at a time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

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Join an Army of Sensemaking Randos to Resist the AI Mad-Cow Apocalypse 1:04:35

16d ago1:04:35

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⁨@MarkDParker⁩ House of Woo | 3 June 2025 | The City on a Hill https://www.youtube.com/live/0AMOJ_eq5yI?si=LJOFl6jbJezXiIVs ⁨@transfigured3673⁩ John Vervaeke & Jonathan Pageau - Fellowship in the Spirit https://youtu.be/3yk8HtOQBuE?si=zTbxiD1svPA-cinX https://roddreher.substack.com/p/second-thoughts-on-woke-right Paul Vander Klay clips channel ht…

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Picking through the Post Jubilee Jordan Peterson Dogpiling 1:00:49

17d ago1:00:49

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https://thisisleisfullofnoises.substack.com/p/why-cant-we-look-away ⁨@MercuryBlack-TheLunatic⁩ Why Am I So Disappointed In Jordan Peterson? https://youtu.be/qYBATInrKyo?si=3WNNDAGTj6Bs8irB ⁨@PFJung⁩ What it's like to watch Jordan Peterson fall apart... (from a fan's perspective) https://youtu.be/_wUNp0AmjiY?si=8kXEumZv3l8zXDET ⁨@PFJung⁩ It's time…

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S5 Ep8: INTIWH - Victoria Canal 37:04

17d ago37:04

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"The thing that he said that struck me most was, you don't get people's attention more by being louder... you make them want to lean in when you pull back. The moments that resonate the most are when I pull back" - Victoria Canal In this episode of Chris' podcast, he's joined by singer-songwriter Victoria Canal. A globe-trotting childhood, with all…

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Frustration with Jordan Peterson's Failure to Embody a Religious Generative Future 38:40

18d ago38:40

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@GospelSimplicity Why Jordan Peterson Confuses Everyone https://youtu.be/N9OqoylG9NE?si=cLTLVJe7c5hW2oXj @MercuryBlack-TheLunatic I'm More Ethical Than Jordan Peterson/Shocking: ChatGPT Knows Who I Am/My 1st Time Using AI https://youtu.be/kMmrfO0iivc?si=egRFsKd8voaDyxUU @AerialView The Video That Made Jordan Peterson Famous https://youtu.be/CM7jp…

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Should Christians Get the Sunday Paper? Sunday Edition 44:30

18d ago44:30

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Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Bridges of meaning https://discord.gg/tWDuYmBB Estuary Hub Link https://www.estuaryhub.com/ If…

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I Didn't Even Have Enough Time To Think About What Was Happening 41:09

18d ago41:09

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17 year old Danielle is attacked by her mother’s boyfriend who stabs her repeatedly and leaves her for dead. Deborah is part of a crew delivering a yacht when it sinks along with their life raft. Gordy and Betty are terrorized in their home by an escaped convict before he takes them with him as hostages. This Episode is sponsored by BetterHelp Apar…

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How Jesus' Ascension Comforts a World Suspicious of the Administration of Earth from Heaven 24:15

20d ago24:15

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By Paul Vander Klay

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When Everything Fails to Help our friend from Falling into Despair 2:58:33

21d ago2:58:33

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Carla Groom Sam Ewing Alex Luna Zac Parsons Matt Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Estuary Hub Link https://www.estuaryhub.com/ …

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Why Paul Vander Klay will never be President of Synod. Hint: It's the Vibe-shift 1:39:11

21d ago1:39:11

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@crcna Synod 2025 - Convening Session (May 28, 2025) https://www.youtube.com/live/Qwsg2fruqfg?si=U9KsljSZ64eiZgZt https://www.thebanner.org/news/2025/05/mix-of-experienced-new-officers-for-synod-2025 https://www.thebanner.org/news/2024/05/synod-2024-elects-four-midwest-pastors-as-officers https://www.abideproject.org/about @abideproject CRCNA Syn…

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Church Domicide. How McMo Became Unchurched but kept his Faith 1:50:12

22d ago1:50:12

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You can join @mcmosav on weekend livestreams on Saturday and Sundays Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Estuary Hub Link https://…

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Why so Angry? Behind the Scenes at the Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheist Jubilee Viral Video 1:16:57

22d ago1:16:57

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@jubilee https://youtu.be/Pwk5MPE_6zE?si=f1UPe2JE-jYt6GTf Jordan Peterson vs 20 Atheists | Surrounded Greg's Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuv_NjqDsT4-iwqc8lZfexw Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://ww…

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Meet Esther Perel – One of My Favorite People [VIDEO] 2:12:43

22d ago2:12:43

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In another "My Favorite People" episode, Trevor sits down with Esther Perel. This time around, Esther reflects on her early life experiences and how those experiences have shaped her life and career. They also discuss the importance of “friction” as an essential element of a life well lived, and why we should all maybe be hanging out at the laundro…

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Is Mikhaila Trying to get Jordan Peterson out of his slump? 39:42

24d ago39:42

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⁨@thekalezelden⁩ Jordan Peterson Tacks Back: Fat Thor JBP or Teacher/Therapist JBP? https://youtu.be/8fKFNKEcgaA?si=MYvH77X-KA_D0ldP ⁨@JordanBPeterson⁩ Jordan Peterson Answers Calls: Advice, Mental Health, Family Dynamics | Mikhaila Fuller | EP 548 https://youtu.be/vHnIaVR-RXc?si=blzrFXvm7jUMRtvV I made this on Friday May 23 two days before the…

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S5 Ep7: INTIWH - Theodore Shapiro 36:10

24d ago36:10

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"I have a very vivid memory of seeing 'Raiders Of The Lost Ark' when I was nine and that was a very profound experience for me, because I loved the movie. I was very aware of what that music was doing to my experience..." - Theodore Shapiro In this episode Chris explores a whole new world of music making in the company of composer Theodore Shapiro.…

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Brad East's World without Goldilocks Protestantism 1:08:45

25d ago1:08:45

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https://firstthings.com/goldilocks-protestantism/ https://x.com/PaulVanderKlay/status/1925913677833593078 https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/how-elites-abandoned-the-masses https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2025/05/97979/ https://lorenrichmondjr.substack.com/p/what-will-the-church-of-the-future https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/megachurch-ge…

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I Could Hear My Heart Beating In My Eardrums 38:58

25d ago38:58

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Lori and Pat are on an RV trip in Baja Mexico when they are attack by two armed men who begin to fire into the vehicle. David is out for a jog when he is caught in a tornado on the Stones River Greenway. Kevin is home alone when he is viciously attacked by an intruder wielding a knife. Pretty Litter - Go to PrettyLitter.com/Survived to save 20% on …

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Should Christians Get the Sunday Paper? Would you Eat with People who Do? 46:00

27d ago46:00

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Paul Vander Klay clips channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX0jIcadtoxELSwehCh5QTg Midwestuary Conference August 22-24 in Chicago https://www.midwestuary.com/ https://www.meetup.com/sacramento-estuary/ My Substack https://paulvanderklay.substack.com/ Estuary Hub Link https://www.estuaryhub.com/ If you want to schedule a one-on-one conversation…

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Is Post-Liberal American Going Orthobro or Catholic? Or will Protestants Adapt to Save the Culture? 2:37:57

28d ago2:37:57

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Paul Rene Nicoles Michael Sartori Neal Deadalus Joseph Lambrecht Alex LunaBy Paul Vander Klay

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The Collapse of the Neo-Evangelical Ecosystem, and the Recession of "Cultural Engagement" 1:40:11

29d ago1:40:11

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⁨@solamediaorg⁩ Trusting God in the Face of Death: My Last Conversation with Tim Keller https://youtu.be/IAkTnhdQkY8?si=y5A32_I3rciSVIkZ ⁨@HolyPostMedia⁩ 669: From Common Good to Culture War—Lessons from the Q Conference with Katelyn Beaty https://youtu.be/PfeApWQJ4DE?si=0ahWXaJ86qMjy8-z ⁨@SpeakLifeMedia⁩ Wes Huff's BEST MOMENT on Andrew Schu…

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The Perfect Algorithm for Finding Love? with Christian Rudder [VIDEO] 1:12:17

29d ago1:12:17

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Trevor and Christiana are joined by Christian Rudder (co-founder of OkCupid and author of Dataclysm) to try and determine: Is a healthy dating app possible? They talk through how online dating has shifted since the “hope and change” moment of the early 2010s, and how data and technology can help and hurt our attempts at finding love. Learn more abo…

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Against Christianity, No such thing as Judaism, and other helpful Theological Haiku 54:15

30d ago54:15

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⁨@mcclungmuseum⁩ 20th Anniversary Lecture, Judaic Studies: Daniel Boyarin: No 'Judaism' In Josephus https://youtu.be/9iL3NZrxp28?si=qTMYKBvgFfqlvb_- ⁨@ClassicsForAll⁩ Tom Holland: Did Religion Exist in the Ancient World? https://youtu.be/ZeCTC_r4vMI?si=LyYbV4aWt5Z6aly9 https://bengresik.substack.com/p/crcna-inside-baseball-1-religion Against Chri…

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The Social Weapons You Create Will Be Used Against You 48:18

1M ago48:18

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⁨@triggerpod⁩ How the Woke Left Created the Woke Right - Andrew Doyle https://youtu.be/cXcd_3JhYFM?si=1p6tZqzzQriRU1rA As the Post-War Spirit Hierarchy Weakens It's More Important to See How Jesus Loves in Conflict https://youtu.be/qR0UpN9-evw?si=DlhgE15Bi6xljJzd ⁨@WhiteStoneName⁩ Is This Little Corner of the Internet demonic? https://www.youtube…

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What Scott Adam's Cancer Announcement and Planned Death Means in a Wobbly Secular Para-social World 31:07

1M ago31:07

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⁨@RealCoffeewithScottAdams⁩ Episode 2844 CWSA 05/19/25 https://www.youtube.com/live/4NPIr9cNZA4?si=RggY9Tw5SR-osAZO ⁨@transfigured3673⁩ The Ontology of Spirit in Jonathan Pageau and John Vervaeke - Part 2 - Pneumatology https://youtu.be/iiTAI_r31Ts?si=hJxTxJFx6t4x2p4t ⁨@TheTelepathyTapes⁩ ⁨@Netflix⁩ The Four Seasons | Official Trailer | Netflix…

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S5 Ep6: INTIWH - ALT BLK ERA 38:34

1M ago38:34

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“Because we write in so many genres, it’s always exciting to song write. Because today it’s like, we can write a D+B song and tomorrow we can write an Emo song. So it doesn’t get boring, because there’s always a new genre that you haven’t written in” - ALT BLK ERA In this episode Chris is joined by not one, but two guests - sisters Nyrobi and Chaya…

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Potential Living Stones Conference Brainstorming-Input 4:37

1M ago4:37

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Link to the Google form for speaker ideas: https://forms.gle/Mw3E5sxCtuxJvjDu9By Paul Vander Klay

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A Castrated Slave Finds Resonance in the Suffering of the Son of Man 37:43

1M ago37:43

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Ethiopian EunuchBy Paul Vander Klay

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We're Never Going to Get Out of This Alive 37:37

1M ago37:37

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Sharon is abducted outside her home by a man with a knife who blindfolds and assaults her. Al and Linda are snowmobiling with their daughter on a frozen lake when their sleds fall through the ice along with Al. Misty and her friend Tanya are walking home from a part when hey are attacked by a man with a baseball bat who leads them into the woods. A…

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How Christianity Went Endemic 34:02

1M ago34:02

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Acts 15By Paul Vander Klay

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Can a Christianity Shaved of Ethnic Heritage Resolve the Western Individualist's Meaning Crisis EDITED 1:01:35

1M ago1:01:35

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Cut down version of previous full Friday May 16 LivestreamBy Paul Vander Klay

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Can a Christianity Shaved of Ethnic Heritage Resolve the Western Individualist's Meaning Crisis full 2:57:34

1M ago2:57:34

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Friday LivestreamBy Paul Vander Klay

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Naive Materialism Governing the AI Apocalypse in a World Awakening to Spiritual Principalities 1:11:14

1M ago1:11:14

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@InterestingTimesNYT Robot Plumbers, Robot Armies, and Our Imminent A.I. Future | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat https://youtu.be/wNJJ9QUabkA?si=rTdZUBOP6rRCZM_r @TheTelepathyTapes Episode 7: Telepathy is the Tip of the Iceberg https://youtu.be/lwmREg36OYU?si=DTt6A6szjIiiUDS6 @EzraKleinShow Educating Kids in the Age of A.I. | The Ezra Klein …

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Anxiety over the Post-Liberal Wobble 1:46:51

1M ago1:46:51

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@JordanBPeterson When the Right Goes Too Far | Dr. James Lindsay | EP 544 https://youtu.be/aYGNTFY4ZIQ?si=v_62gO6QGV3f-c2F @LibertyLockdown The tragic decline of Jordan B. Peterson https://youtu.be/b_dqRw2I4sk?si=BwobDvQ8uS4mF7id @EchoChamberlain The Decline of Jordan Peterson https://youtu.be/Ta0hwiff5Sc?si=QGchXcUokxPzEYqu Jason Staples: Paul a…

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