The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself. This is Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson going around the circle to discuss various topics and how they affect each type.
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An Around the Circle Podcast for those who want to jump into the Enneagram.
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All of the Around The Circle Deep Dives into the Enneagram Types of Pop Culture Figures all in one place!
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Enneagram and Coaching | A Panel Discussion
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1:05:55We brought together Melissa Kircher, Mandy Capehart, Jackie Contessa for a panel discussion on the intersection of Enneagram and coaching. Together, they explore how type-awareness shapes coaching work, from trauma-informed healing and grief integration to identity formation and shadow work. Whether you're a coach or simply Enneagram-curious, this …
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Interviews | Enneagram Eights | Erika Jobes
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42:51The first half of our deep dive into Eights. Apologies for the quality of Jeff's dumb mic! The full episode is at: www.aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and TJ WIlson
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Interviews | Enneagram Sevens | Joel Stabile
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30:23The first half of our deep dive into Sevens. The full episode is at: www.aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and TJ WIlson
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Enneagram and Therapy | A Panel Discussion
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37:06We speak with Lindsay Taylor (1), Michael Shahan (6), and Heidi the Therapist (4) about the art of using the Enneagram in Therapy, and how their own understanding of their own type effects how they seek to help others. Click HERE for the full discussion.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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The Scientific Enneagram | A Discussion w. Danielle Fuller
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54:44For the Full Episode go to | www.aroundthecircle.org What happens when engineers, psychologists, and Enneagram coaches meet in one person? You get Danielle Fuller—founder of Scientific Enneagram, expert in data, and a compelling voice at the intersection of systems theory and personality work. In this episode, we dive deep with Danielle into the sc…
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Friends, Tomorrow our good friend Tyler Zach is beginning his much anticipated Enneasummit online on the Enneagram Instincts. Click here for FREE Access : https://www.tylerzach.com/a/2148111985/gTjkbNt4By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Ashton Whitmoyer-Ober | Enneagram at Work
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53:57For Ashton's 7 Week Training Experience go : HERE For the full interview with Ashton go : HEREBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Interviews | Enneagram Sixes | Dr. Mary Slattery
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30:38As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Dr Mary Slattery, Enneagram Six. You can hear the full interview at : aroundthecircle.org…
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Hunter Mobley | Letting Go, Finding You | Part II
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39:23We are joined again by our friend Hunter Mobley. Hunter' new book releases on May 22 and can be found HERE. Hunter Mobley is an Enneagram teacher who leads a yearlong Contemplative Cohort program at Suzanne and Joe Stabile's teaching center, The Micah Center, in Dallas, Texas.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Hunter Mobley | Letting Go, Finding You | Part I
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45:28We are joined again by our friend Hunter Mobley. Hunter' new book releases on May 22 and can be found HERE. Hunter Mobley is an Enneagram teacher who leads a yearlong Contemplative Cohort program at Suzanne and Joe Stabile's teaching center, The Micah Center, in Dallas, Texas.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Interviews | Enneagram Fives | Jessica Pena, PhD Candidate
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1:07:39As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Jessica Pena, PhD Candidate in Psychology. You can hear the full interview at : aroundthecircle.org…
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On with Tyler Zach | Instincts, Origins, and the Future of the Enneagram Tyler Zach joins us to talk about the June Enneagram Summit he’s hosting—focused entirely on instincts. Go HERE TO SIGN UP. We also explore his work tracing the History of the Enneagram, offering context for where the movement has been and where it may be heading. 🔗 Explore Ty…
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Interviews | Enneagram Fours | Heidi the Therapist
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1:04:58As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Heidi the Therapist.. You can hear the full interview at : aroundthecircle.org…
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Tacos, Toyotas and the Art of Happiness | An Enneagram Event
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26:59Friends, the link to our event is HERE.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Interviews | Enneagram Threes | Enneagram Teacher * Katie Whitlock
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44:45As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Enneagram Coach Katie Whitlock. You can hear the full interview at aroundthecircle.org…
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Interviews | Enneagram Twos | Enneagram Coach * Jackie Contessa
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1:07:01As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Enneagram Coach Jackie Contessa. You can hear the full interview at aroundthecircle.org…
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Kristin Messegee | Enneagram Six | 20 Questions
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1:09:23We welcome the delightful Kristin Messegee. Kristin is an Enneagram Six. She is a coach serving and supporting Enneagram Sixes and she hosts the podcast Life Uninhibited, which is an Enneagram podcast which is tailored for Loyalists. You can find her on Instagram : HERE And her beautiful podcast: HERE…
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Teachers! | with Dr. Billy Schewee and Prof. Kelly Langley Cook
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1:40:20How the Enneagram Transforms Education. In this episode, Jeff and TJ welcome Dr. Billy Schewee and Professor Kelly Langley Cook to explore how the Enneagram intersects with parenting, teaching, and educational leadership. From college prep to classroom dynamics, the conversation highlights how knowing yourself—and your students—can reshape how we l…
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Interviews | Enneagram Ones | Therapist * Lindsey Taylor
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59:47As you get into Enneagram, it's important to hear more than just theory and descriptions but to hear from your same type about their actual experiences and life **from inside.** Here's is the first half of our interview with Therapist, Lindsey Taylor. You can hear the full interview at aroundthecircle.org…
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The Ten Big Questions | Fives | with Jessica Pena
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1:06:08Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We conclude (!!) our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we're talking with our good friend Jessica, PhD candidate and truly wonderful human being being. This is the only the first hour of our deep dive. You can here stream the full streaming now : HERE…
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Melissa Kircher | Enneagram 5 | Life Coach and Illustrator
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49:55First half of our conversation with the fantastic Melissa Kircher—an Enneagram 5, certified Enneagram and life coach, and the creative force behind some of the most insightful Enneagram illustrations on social media. Her work, showcased at Enneagram & Paths, blends rich understanding with minimalistic design to make complex concepts accessible and …
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part II
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1:43:54For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and TJ Wilson
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part II
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1:42:56For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part I
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2:03:34For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE "Heroes" is finally here. We are starting the deep dive into our favorite heroes in film and their Enneagram types. This is our introduction to thinking hard about Heroism at times like this.…
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The Ten Big Questions | Fours | with Heidi the Therapist
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1:03:27Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We continue our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we're talking with our good friend Heidi, counselor extraordinaire. This is the first hour of our three hour (!) deep dive. You can here that streaming now : HERE…
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Heroes Type 6 | "The Secret of Nimh" | Part I
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2:04:32For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE We are beginning our deep dive into Heroism in Enneagram Sixes. We're thrilled to jump into the world of the Rats of Nimh. Enjoy!By Jeff Cook and TJ Wilson
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For all our best material, go HERE To take a look at our June 27-28 Event : HERE Links to Streaming "The Secret of Nimh" : HERE Or on YouTube : HERE "Heroes" is finally here. We are starting the deep dive into our favorite heroes in film and their Enneagram types. This is our introduction to thinking hard about Heroism at times like this.…
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Instincts | A New Interview with the Art of Growth
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1:31:26All of our Full Interviews, College Courses, and Book Drafts are : HERE Start Here Podcast is Here Our Intro to Instincts is HERE Joel and Jim's Book is HereBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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College Course | Ep 02 | Triads : "Affect Groups and the Centers"
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27:12Here's the link to our work : aroundthecircle.org This is the second of ten episodes pairing five sets of Enneagram Triads. We move to introducing Affect Groups and pair them with the Intelligence Centers. Lots to like here.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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College Course | Ep 01 | Triads : "Stances and the Centers"
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48:21Here's the link to our work : aroundthecircle.org This is the first of ten episodes pairing five sets of enneagram triads. We begin with an intro and the pairing of the Intelligence Centers and the Stances.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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For the the full, free episode: GO HERE Whether you are in a relationship or not, we all engage those with Enneagram types different than ours. Here is our deep dive into each of the types and what we ourselves can work on to succeed in relationships better.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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The Ten Big Questions | Threes | with Katie Whitlock
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43:14Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We continue our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we have Enneagram coach Katie Whitlock speaking about the inner life of Threes. You can connect with Katie's work at : HERE You can find Jackie's Instagram presence : HERE…
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The Ten Big Questions | Twos | with Jackie Contessa
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1:05:30Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We continue our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we have Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa speaking about the inner life of Twos. You can connect with Jackie's work at : HERE You can find Jackie's Instagram presence : HERE…
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The Ten Big Questions | Ones | with Lindsay Taylor
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58:16Find all our stuff at : www.aroundthecircle.org We continue our deep dive into each of the types with the most informed people we know. This time we have the wonderful Lindsay Taylor speaking about the inner life of Ones. You can connect with Lindsey's work at : https://www.hopespringscounseling.net/who-are-we…
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Stephanie Barron Hall | "Enneagram in Real Life"
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1:07:18Steph's Book : HERE Around the Circle Membership : HERE We had a delightful time with the Stephanie Barron Hall who gave us a sneak peak into her new book "Enneagram in Real Life." We spoke for over two hours about an insight of hers, she called "Thresholds." Again, if you'd like to enjoy the full discussion go : HERE…
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In this episode, we explore how the Enneagram can guide your reflections on the past year and help you set intentions for the future. Using the framework of past, present, and future, we provide practical insights for growth and balance. Key highlights include: Understanding how each Enneagram type engages with time. Reflecting on past lessons to s…
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The Ten Big Questions | Nines | with Beth McCord
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40:46Click HERE for our Patreon. For all of Beth's excellent books : HERE ___ We continue our series asking the most informed folks we know deep dive questions about their Enneagram type. Beth is a world class enneagram scholar, author of multiple books and stellar human being. You can listen to the full version of the interview HERE…
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New To This! | 50 Enneagram Questions (Submitted From Our AI Overlords) | Part I
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42:52For the Second half : CLICK HERE We had a guest fall through, but no worries. We ask Chat to give us its top 50 questions about the Enneagram. Jeff had a great time with this list; TJ was not impressed.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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The Enneagram is a tool. It unveils your natural strengths, how you solve problem, and where those like you may struggle. Enneagram is about personality type, about how we are wired. and ultimately about being a healthy person. This podcast is a front door. This will get you in and familiar with yourself and your type. There are thirty episodes, bu…
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For the Second half : CLICK HERE We had a guest fall through, but no worries. We ask Chat to give us its top 50 questions about the Enneagram. Jeff had a great time with this list; TJ was not impressed.By Jeff Cook and TJ WIlson
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Lord of the Rings | Conclusion | Frodo and Faramir
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1:28:52In the grand finale of our Lord of the Rings typing series, Jeff and TJ take on the final—and perhaps most nuanced—characters of Tolkien’s epic. This week, the focus is on Frodo and Faramir, two deeply reflective and emotionally complex figures whose journeys illuminate the heart of the Enneagram. As the discussion dives into Faramir’s longing to b…
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Lord of the Rings | Part VII | Merry and Legolas
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1:17:43Join Jeff and TJ as they dive deep into the Enneagram typings of two iconic Lord of the Rings characters: Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck and Legolas. Is Merry a loyal caretaker Type 2, and what does his relationship with Pippin reveal about his journey? Could Legolas's competitive nature and sleek precision point to him being a Type 3, or does his kee…
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Lord of the Rings | Part VI | Gollum, Denethor, Galadriel, Arwen
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1:40:37In Part 6 of our epic Lord of the Rings Enneagram series, we dive deep into the personalities of four iconic Middle-earth characters. Join Jeff and TJ as they explore the complexities of Gollum’s internal struggle, Denethor’s volatile relationships, Galadriel’s ethereal wisdom, and Arwen’s steadfast devotion. How does the Enneagram reveal the deepe…
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Lord of the Rings | Part V | Éowyn, Pippin, Gimli, Théoden and Boromir
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1:36:53We jump into the first round of deep dives with Éowyn, Pippin, Gimli, Théoden and Boromir.By Jeff Cook and TJ Wilson
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Lord of the Rings | Part IV | Gandalf, Eowyn, Samwise, Elrond, and Wormtongue
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1:24:39We start our mistyping conversation by dive deep into Fives and Sixes. From Gandalf’s wisdom and power struggles to Samwise Gamgee’s steadfast loyalty, each episode unpacks motivations, fears, and dynamics in Middle-earth. In this episode, we kick off a multi-part series with spirited debates on Gandalf’s complexity—Type 5 or 8?—Elrond’s reserved w…
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The Muppet's Christmas Carol | Part II (Repost)
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1:54:40Part II, Friends! We type all the characters and walk through the film.By Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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The Muppet's Christmas Carol | Part I (Repost)
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56:23So, I listened back through these two episodes and even though I knew what we were going to say and what was coming, I cried all the way through. So I wanted to offer them back up to you as you enjoy theBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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We got to sit down again with Joey Schewee to not only ask her 10 new questions, but to have her ask a new set of ten questions to us! We loved this time, and if you'd like to hear the second half of this conversation go to : www.aroundthecircle.orgBy Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
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Lord of the Rings | Part III | Typing Discussion | Aragorn
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1:01:41Watching The Lord of the Rings during Christmas break is like stepping into a realm of timeless adventure and camaraderie, where the heartwarming bonds of friendship mirror the season's spirit of togetherness. The sweeping landscapes and epic battles transport you to Middle-earth, offering a perfect escape from the everyday hustle, all while the st…
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