Two seasoned salty programming veterans talk best practices based on years of working with Laravel SaaS teams.
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A no-nonsense (well, some-nonsense) podcast about API design & development, new features in the world of HTTP, service-orientated architecture, microservices, and probably bikes.
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Generating API Specs can be Painful, with Joel Clermont from Mastering Laravel
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27:35In this episode of 'APIs You Won't Hate', the Phil discusses API development with Joel Clermont, a prominent member of the Laravel PHP community. They explore different approaches to building APIs, focusing particularly on the debate between code-first and design-first methodologies. Joel shares his experiences and challenges with generating API sp…
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Finding a code-review style that fits your brain
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16:20Joel and Aaron compare two very different ways to tackle pull-requests—reviewing them commit-by-commit or scanning the whole thing at once. They dig into when each approach shines, how “atomic” commits can help (or hurt) reviewers, and why understanding how your teammate’s brain works is a super-power. Along the way they share practical tips for le…
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Never take hostages: give clients control from day one
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10:55Joel and Aaron explain why every project should start in the client’s own GitHub organization—even when the client has never heard of Git. They share scripts, onboarding tips, and war-stories that show how small setup shortcuts turn into big headaches later. You’ll learn a repeatable way to protect both your reputation and your client’s code base. …
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All about Mocking, with Wiremock's Tom Akehurst
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51:41Mocking is one of those things that started out as a simple idea, and has evolved to support an incredible amount of developer use cases over the years. In this episode of the Podcast, Tom from Wiremock chats with Phil about what mocking is, strategies for not littering OpenAPI doc with mocking details, and ways to keep api dev teams empowered by m…
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Balancing test coverage without chasing 100 percent
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15:41Joel and Aaron unpack how they use code-coverage numbers as a starting signal rather than a finish line. They discuss realistic thresholds, choosing the right tool for each test layer, and why coverage metrics can double as negotiation leverage inside big organizations. Listen in for practical ways to decide what to test—and when to stop. (00:00) -…
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Exploratory coding when requirements are fuzzy
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15:19Joel and Aaron unpack a recent client project where the only spec was “make these two systems talk.” They share how console-level prototypes helped them clarify data mapping, test tricky scenarios, and keep the client looped in without over-building a UI. If you’ve ever had to code first and document later, this one’s for you. (00:00) - Bridging tw…
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Understanding how Stringable works inside Blade views
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10:58Joel and Aaron dig into Laravel’s `Stringable` class and uncover how it can silently skip Blade’s automatic HTML escaping. They explain why that’s both a convenient feature and a potential security pitfall if user input isn’t properly sanitized. You’ll hear practical ways to keep your views safe without losing the API’s fluency. (00:00) - Stringabl…
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Finishing up our discussion on not having time
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11:41Picking up where last week’s “Why ‘no time’ really means ‘no priority’” left off, Joel and Aaron tackle the next hurdle: what to do once the benefits are crystal‑clear but you (or your team) still hesitate. They unpack the hidden frictions—fear of discomfort, stakeholder pushback, or sheer inertia—that keep valuable tasks on the back burner. You’ll…
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Joel and Aaron tackle the common objection, “We don’t have time,” and show why it usually hides a priority problem. They discuss how to convey the true payoff of process improvements by sharing honest before‑and‑after stories instead of vague promises. You’ll leave with practical ideas for getting buy‑in—whether you’re pitching tests, planning habi…
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When validation can protect your app's performance
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12:12Joel and Aaron show how ignoring GET request validation can cause performance issues and open your application to abuse. They highlight the importance of bounding pagination and share tips for using form requests to handle unexpected user input. Now go check out the best/only Laravel validation book (00:00) - Quiz on Laravel’s default pagination li…
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Stick with conventions and avoid overengineering your Laravel app
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8:41Joel and Aaron explore why pushing too many layers of abstraction can backfire in a Laravel application. They highlight the benefits of sticking to the framework’s conventions for long-term maintainability and simpler handoff to future developers. (00:00) - Why framework paradigms really matter (01:00) - When extra abstractions become burdens (03:0…
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Joel and Aaron explore the decision-making process behind hiring or consulting an expert for technical challenges. They discuss examples like adding tests to a large codebase and understanding what questions you need to ask. They also reveal how coaching can help teams avoid common pitfalls and reach solutions faster. (00:00) - Determining why you …
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Joel and Aaron discuss the benefits of having distinct databases for testing and local development. They share how this approach ensures a reliable test suite and avoids conflicts with day-to-day dev work. In the process, they reveal a simpler workflow for setting up new environments and keeping projects stable. (00:00) - Why separate dev and test …
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In this episode, Joel and Aaron discuss the struggles of learning new technology on a late-night side project. They share tips for handling frustration and managing expectations. (00:00) - Late-night MicroPython struggles and revelations (02:15) - Overcoming complex hardware and language hurdles (05:15) - Balancing side projects with realistic expe…
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Rails APIs and Clickfunnels with Rich Steinmetz
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38:35Rich Steinmetz (https://richstone.io/meet-rich) Clickfunnels https://clickfunnels.com/ Developer portal https://developers.myclickfunnels.com/ Bullet Train for Ruby on Rails - https://bullettrain.co/docs/api SuperScaffolding - https://bullettrain.co/docs/super-scaffolding Hyrum's Law - https://www.hyrumslaw.com/ Creators & Guests Rich Steinmetz - G…
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Joel and Aaron explore the value of using concise video demos instead of long emails or scattered screenshots. They discuss which clients benefit from quick visuals and when text is still best. Want to see us on camera? Join the Mastering Laravel community for our live dev calls. (00:00) - Recording brief Loom demos for updates (02:15) - Considerin…
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Examining test layering in multi-tenant requests
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13:32Joel and Aaron debate how to structure multi-tenant API requests and tests. They explore the interplay between authentication, tenant headers, and different levels of validation. In the end, they reminisce about old infomercial freebies and wonder if they still exist. (00:00) - Debating authentication vs. tenant header priority (02:15) - Handling u…
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When to step outside of Eloquent's comfort zone
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12:28Joel and Aaron explore the nuances of when to venture beyond Eloquent in Laravel applications. They discuss specific scenarios where using lower-level database tools might be necessary, while emphasizing the importance of not abandoning Eloquent entirely. The conversation provides practical insights into balancing framework features with performanc…
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Feature flags: Temporary tool or permanent solution?
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10:13Joel and Aaron dive into a friendly debate about the true nature of feature flags in software development. Drawing from their varied experiences across different programming languages and environments, they explore whether feature flags should always be temporary or can serve permanent purposes. The discussion evolves from a simple disagreement int…
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Deciding when to use a new piece of technology
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14:26Ooh, something new was just announced. And I have this project coming up. It could be perfect! But should I use it? On today's episode of No Compromises, Aaron and Joel share a conversation they had along these lines on a recent client project and considering the new Flux library from the creator of Livewire. (00:00) - Discussing potential Flux ado…
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Programmers love geeking out and creating specialized terms and vocabulary. Well I can do that too. In today's episode, we talk about "value objects", put our own special definition on it, and discuss when we might use these in a Laravel project. (00:00) - What I mean by "value object" (03:00) - Nicer to do in newer PHP versions (04:00) - Main use …
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How to deal with things outside your control on a dev project
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10:26Have you ever struggled working with a third party on one of your developer projects? How do you handle that, keeping it professional and also still able to meet your commitments? In today's episode of No Compromises, Aaron and Joel discuss what happened on a recent project and how they think about handling those kinds of difficulties while still h…
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Catching up with Phil, Mike, and Alexander
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48:46Though we've been working together for a long while, it turns out that Alexander, Phil, and Mike had never all recorded a podcast together before. We caught up to catch up on what everyone's been up to these past few months, to talk APIs, and to gab about the future of this very community. Creators & Guests Phil Sturgeon - Host Mike Bifulco - Host …
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JSON fields can be very useful, but when is a good time to include them in your database design? In today's episode of No Compromises, Aaron and Joel use a couple examples from recent projects to talk through reasons they would and would not use a JSON field. (00:00) - Debating JSON fields in database design (03:06) - Configuration options: JSON vs…
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A balanced approach to static analysis in Laravel apps
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11:59Static types and tooling have increased the quality of our apps, but sometimes certain features in your Laravel app don't play nicely with static analysis. In today's episode, we talk about how we approach the tradeoffs around making a tool happy without changing how you write code. (00:00) - Our approach to static analysis in a Laravel app (01:30)…
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I write a lot about testing in the Mastering Laravel newsletter. Ever wonder why it's a topic I care so much about? In today's episode, we discuss that question and come up with a few different reasons. (00:00) - Why do we like testing so much? (01:20) - Looking back at how we learned (02:30) - Making it easier to join a project (05:45) - Tests mak…
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What does it really mean when you say you know a particular technology? On today's episode, we discuss this using TypeScript as a specific example. (00:00) - What does it mean to "know" something? (03:15) - Thinking about TypeScript vs strict types in PHP (05:30) - Are you fluent? (06:50) - Silly bit Want help with your Laravel or PHP project? We r…
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Programmers are not shy about telling other programmers when they're wrong. But what can we learn in a situation like his? How can we be wrong with style? In this episode, Aaron and Joel talk about times they've been wrong throughout their career and what they've learned. (00:00) - Aaron admits he was wrong (02:00) - What can I learn from this? (05…
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We can't know everything, so throughout each day we inevitably have questions. On today's episode, we discuss different approaches we have used when we need a little help. (00:00) - Where do you go when you need help? (01:30) - Option 1 - search engines (03:30) - Getting the most out of search results (05:00) - Option 2 - talk to AI (07:00) - Using…
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No more API usage nightmares, with Alex Klarfeld from Supergood.ai
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30:16Supergood.ai OSS on github Alex Klarfeld GitHub LinkedIn Threads / Twitter Creators & Guests Mike Bifulco - Host Alex Klarfeld - GuestBy APIs You Won't Hate
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What does it mean if someone says your app is slow?
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13:42The dreaded bug report: this app is slow. Ok, but what is slow? I have so many questions! In today's episode, we discuss our approach to getting more information out of that initial bug report, and a methodical approach to locate and quantify the slowness. If you'd like help setting up tools like Xdebug profiling, send us a message.…
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Building an API for Global News with Artem Bugara from Newscatcher
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48:31Artem Bugara twitter Newscatcher API On GitHub kotartemiy/newscatcher Research Papers Creators & Guests Artem Bugara - GuestBy APIs You Won't Hate
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Why we have a separate test suite for external services
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18:03Writing tests that communicate with a third party can be a little tricky, but we've found an approach that balances speed and confidence. In today's episode, we share that approach and talk through a strategy of how frequently to run tests that talk to the outside world. (00:00) - Why would your tests ever talk to an external service? (02:30) - Wha…
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Convince me this is a bad idea: how Mercoa built a platform for accounts Payable
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38:13Show notes Sandeep Dinesh LinkedIn GitHub Twitter Mercoa GitHub - mercoa-finance LinkedIn (00:00) - Sandeep Dinesh from Mercoa (15:57) - Debate me! Creators & Guests Mike Bifulco - Host Sandeep Dinesh - GuestBy APIs You Won't Hate
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I don't have time to write an API spec. We're not a giant team. We don't have external users of our API. I've said all these things in the past, but in today's episode, we discuss why you should still consider writing a specification for your Laravel API. (00:00) - Should you write a spec for your API? (01:37) - Thinking through the requirements (0…
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Slowly introducing static analysis without changing everything
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15:13Maybe you've tried to add static analysis to your Laravel app and got scared away by all the errors. In this episode we discuss how we like to introduce PHPStan to large, long-lived projects in a way that doesn't introduce a lot of risk or change. Would you like help introducing Larastan to your project? That's one of many things we can help you wi…
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Designing the API for building Voice Assistants, with Nikhil Gupta from Vapi
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40:19(00:00) - Introduction and Guest Introduction (00:52) - The Future of Voice AI (01:56) - Wapi's Elevator Pitch (03:27) - Challenges and Opportunities in Voice AI (05:11) - Building Voice AI Solutions (11:00) - The Genesis of Wapi (16:39) - API Design and Developer Experience (21:23) - Docker vs Kubernetes: A Developer's Perspective (22:28) - Hello …
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Why isn't this working? It can be frustrating when something doesn't work as expected! In this episode, we talk through a recent issue Joel had with sessions and oauth flows. There are a couple principles that apply more broadly. Next time you're stuck on something, let us help! This episode is sponsored by Mailtrap, an Email Delivery Platform that…
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Magic methods are okay in the right context
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12:06"Magic" methods and properties show up several places in Laravel, as well as third-party packages. They can make certain things easier and less verbose, but there is a trade off. In this episode, we discuss a few different contexts where we like and avoid magic accessors. We'd really appreciate it if you share the show with other Laravel devs. This…
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Unkey's Globally Distributed API key generation - with cofounder James Perkins
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43:44Unkey: https://unkey.com OSS on GitHub: https://github.com/unkeyed/unkey James Perkins GitHub Twitter (@james_r_perkins) Creators & Guests James Perkins - Guest Mike Bifulco - HostBy APIs You Won't Hate
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Admins can do everything in the app, right? Today we discuss a couple reasons why you may want to consider not letting an admin have access to every single feature in your app. 🎉️ Episode 100 is a huge milestone for us. Thank you for listening! This episode is sponsored by Mailtrap, an Email Delivery Platform that developers love. Try for Free at M…
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Don't get overwhelmed by errors in your application
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11:55Have you ever turned on error tracking in a long-lived app and then got overwhelmed by all the errors happening? We talk through some strategies to not get overwhelmed and make a case that you really should be monitoring this in production. Would you like help with your legacy app? We have a ton of experience making legacy apps a joy to work within…
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We've talked about coding standards before, but this time we approach it from a slightly different angle. Does the way you're code is formatted affect your ability to understand it? Brains are interesting things. Is your code slower than you'd like? We specialize in Laravel performance optimization and we can help! Contact us to discuss.…
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APIs for websites that don't have APIs, with Suchintan Singh from Skyvern
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38:42Skyvern https://www.skyvern.com/ Skyvern is Open Source! https://github.com/Skyvern-AI/skyvern Launch on Y Combinator's site: https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/skyvern Suchintan Singh (YC S23) on LinkedIn Creators & Guests Mike Bifulco - Host Suchintan Singh - GuestBy APIs You Won't Hate
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You launched a hobby project and then it starts to get some traction. What next? How do you get a more solid foundation under your app when it comes to database hosting? In this episode, we discuss the common phases we see a database go through during an app's life. And if you'd love some help moving your database or tackling performance issues, gi…
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Building a unified API on the shoulders of OSS with Robin Guldener from Nango
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32:33Robin Guldener from Nango talks to mike about building an open, unified API, the value of building on top of Open Source products, and building a growing product team on this episode of the podcast. Nango.dev - Open, Unified API Nango on GitHub Robin Guldener on LinkedIn Creators & Guests Mike Bifulco - Host Robin Guldener - Guest…
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Are you really going to need that abstraction?
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11:59Interfaces are a great tool for writing maintainable applications, but it is possible to go "too far" with abstraction. Or maybe, it's a bad use of time to write an abstraction up front before you really know you need it. We discuss some trade-offs and examples. (00:00) - Life before interfaces in PHP (02:30) - Going too far with interfaces (04:45)…
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Building a developer brand and simple API for email, with Zeno Rocha from Resend
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42:01Zeno's flash->javascript demo with HTML5, Wormz https://zenorocha.github.io/wormz/ Zeno Rocha @ZenoRocha on Twitter @zenorocha on Threads Dracula theme React email Resend.com Resend Forward Broadcasts - marketing emails Batch email sending - send 100 emails with one API call Creators & Guests Mike Bifulco - Host Zeno Rocha - Guest…
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Should you change application code to support a test?
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11:32When you're writing a test it can be so tempting to just "tweak" some app code to make it easier to write that test, but we discuss why that might not be a good idea. We also talk about some app changes while writing tests that are beneficial to the overall project. (00:00) - Sometimes changing code makes testing easier (01:30) - Different types of…
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Princess Beef Heavy Industries, Vacuum, Wiretap: API linting & Compliance with Quobix
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55:55Quobix - Dave Shanley's site. Code is art daveshanley/vacuum on GitHub - the world's fastest OpenAPI 3, OpenAPI 2 / Swagger linter wework/speccy on GitHub - Well Spectually 🤓 Enforce quality rules on your OpenAPI 3.0.x specifications. Wire⚡️Tap - is the world’s coolest OpenAPI compliance and testing tool, from Quobix Battle of the API Ratings from …
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