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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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Matt Chittim and Jason Macaluso

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Join hosts Matt Chittim and Jason Macaluso as they bring you up to speed on the leading stories at the intersection of business and endurance sports. Matt and Jason deliver breaking news, as well as deep dives and guest interviews on the topics that are impacting the endurance sports world. So pour yourself a cup of coffee and plug into the BSD.
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The Road to the Trials has returned for season three and we are fired up! We will be bringing you a yearlong, behind the scenes, look at the training and racing of some of America's best runners as they prepare for the Olympic Marathon Trials on February 3, 2024. In this amazing season we will be following Nell Rojas, CJ Albertson, Sara Vaughn, Dani Moreno, Nico Montañez, Carmen Graves, Ramiro “Curly” Guillen and Jereny Rivera.
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In this conversation, Henry Abbott discusses his transition from sports media to writing a book on injury prevention, "Ballistic: The New Science of Injury-Free Athletic Performance." Blending cutting-edge science with gripping storytelling, award-winning data journalist and competitive amateur athlete Henry Abbott reveals that we are on the cusp o…
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In this conversation, Kristin Johnson shares her inspiring journey from a first-time 3:59 marathoner to achieving a sub-three-hour marathon. She discusses her early experiences with running, the challenges of balancing motherhood and training, and the importance of community in her running journey. Kristin reflects on her training methods, the emot…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Boston Marathon Preview Where we’ll all be for Boston weekend The Runna App and future of AI coaching Breaking news from Lindsey Hein about her pickle ball career Getting nerdy about the trail racing scene Is Des Linden running the USATF 50M cham…
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In this conversation, best-selling author and endurance coach Matt Fitzgerald discusses his new book "Chasing Mastery: 25 Lessons to Cultivate Your Full Potential in Endurance Sports." Matt emphasizes the importance of self-regulation, the role of genetics, and the impact of environment on athletic development. He also shares insights on the psycho…
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In this engaging conversation, Haftu Knight shares his remarkable journey from Ethiopia to becoming one of the fastest marathoners in US history. He discusses his recent success at the McKirdy Micro Marathon where he ran 2:09:38. That performance made him the 22nd fastest marathoner in US history and the fastest Texas marathoner ever (he broke Alan…
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In this engaging conversation, Haftu Knight shares his remarkable journey from Ethiopia to becoming one of the fastest marathoners in US history. He discusses his recent success at the McKirdy Micro Marathon where he ran 2:09:38. That performance made him the 22nd fastest marathoner in US history and the fastest Texas marathoner ever (he broke Alan…
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Fresh off breaking 2:10 at the McKirdy Marathon and setting the Austrian National Record, Aaron Gruen joins us to share his remarkable journey as an runner and international caliber musician, discussing the balance between his rigorous training, medical school, and music career. He reflects on the importance of mentorship and how it has shaped his …
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Sarah Crouch was one of the best American long-distance runners of the 2010's and has transitioned to best-selling novelist. During her collegiate career at Western Washington University, she was an NCAA Division II All-American thirteen times and won the 2011 NCAA Division II National Championship in the 10,000m. In one of her first races as a pro…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: Tommie at The Speed Project Steph Bruce signing with Tracksmith Trail and Ultra races we’ve been watching Show notes: Tommie Runz fundraiser for Release Recovery Foundation: https://fundraisers.hakuapp.com/tommie-runz?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZTEFLEX7kaqPI…
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Today on the “My Favorite Workout” series we are joined by Erika Kemp. Erika is a 6 x All-American at NC State and a 2 x U.S. Champ (15k and 20k). She is also the fastest U.S. born black woman in the marathon and has 12th fastest time in the marathon all-time by a U.S. woman. Erika is currently based in Providence, R.I. and sponsored by Brooks In t…
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The “My Favorite Workout” series is back and we are joined by Nathan Martin. Nathan is one of the best American runners from the 10 mile up to the marathon. He finished 7th at the 2024 Olympic Trials Marathon, PR'd the half marathon last weekend at the U.S. Championships where he finished 9th. Nathan holds fastest marathon clocked by a Black man bo…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: NCAA Indoors Matt’s basketball league NYC Half Recap The nitty gritty of form for sprinters and distance runners The unknown man (Matt Richtman) that ran a 2:07 marathon at the LA Marathon Keira D’Amato's career All-time greats in the sport Matt’s upcomi…
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Our man Tommie Runz is taking on The Speed Project SOLO! In this episode we get into the backstory, the funraising, the training, and the reason why he's heading to the desert for 340 miles of madness. Check out his announcement here! You can support his effort to support the Release Recovery Foundation here. Less than 2 weeks till we get to follow…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: Natosha Rogers marathon result Kallup McCoy’s running journey What enneagram is Matt? Des and Kara’s 10k Helping Peter find love for the 10,000m The Speed Project Thank you to our sponsor: Cure Hydration ⁠⁠Curehydration.com/relay⁠⁠ and use the code “relay” f…
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In this conversation, Matt Hohnholt shares his inspiring journey from a non-runner to the Masters Marathon World Championships. Matt discusses his early experiences in sports, the challenges he faced, and how he discovered a passion for running later in life. He reflects on his training, the importance of consistency, and the mental aspects of raci…
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In this episode of the Rambling Runner Podcast, host Matt Chittim discusses the balance between skill development and enjoyment in running. He emphasizes the importance of marginal gains while also highlighting the need for runners to find joy and adventure in their training. By comparing running to other sports like basketball and golf, Matt illus…
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Today on group chat, we have Peter Bromka, Kofuzi, and Tommie Runz. Episode Rundown: US Half Marathon Championships Yared’s mile world record attempt Josh Kerr pulling out of Milrose Games Clayton Young’s vulnerability on YouTube Notable documentaries in sport Thank you to our sponsor: Cure Hydration ⁠Curehydration.com/relay⁠ and use the code “rela…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Peter Bromka, and Tommie Runz. Episode Rundown: Nikki Hiltz on a tear this weekend Dawn Harper Nelson as a commentator Grand Slam Track versus Indoor World Championships Gate River Run this weekend USA Half Marathon Championships Tommie’s high volume training Kofuzi’s adventures in Morocco Thank yo…
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This is an episode with the most interesting man I follow on Strava. Adrian Massie shares his unique journey from an unhealthy lifestyle to becoming a multi-sport athlete and a local running legend. He discusses the pivotal moment that led him to embrace running, the importance of enjoying the process, and how his previous athletic experiences have…
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Today on group chat, we have Laura Thweatt, Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka, and Matt Chittim. Episode Rundown: All of the world records that went down this weekend The race walk world record Tyreek Hill versus Noah Lyles Who is the fastest in the NFL? Matt's record breaking neighbor Media recommendations: Love is Blind Season 8 Peter’s writing in podca…
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In this engaging conversation, Corinne Shalvoy shares her journey as a multifaceted figure in the running community, discussing her experiences as a top runner, coach, commentator, and advocate for women in sports. She reflects on her recent participation as a racer and broadcaster at the Black Canyon 100k, the challenges of live commentary, and th…
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In this conversation, Kallup McCoy II shares his journey of preparing for a transcontinental run while raising awareness and funds for his mental health and substance use recovery non-profit. He reflects on his past experiences, including the Trail of Tears run, and discusses the mental, emotional, and physical challenges of endurance running. Kall…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Millrose games recap Sodium Bicarbonate The end of the Bowerman Track Club era Lindsey’s spring season of events Superbowl Sunday Media recommended: The Warm Hands of Ghosts Win the Inside Game David Sedaris books All the Hacks podcast Take on Barilla’s Protein Pasta Winte…
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This episode covers the significance of February 1st as a pivotal date for setting and achieving goals, particularly in the context of New Year's resolutions. We emphasize the importance of maintaining the goals set in January while refining the methods to achieve them. Finally, we discuss how to plan effectively and stay committed to your aspirati…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, Laura Thweatt, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Indoor track recaps from the weekend Mike’s race and experience in Miami Shelby Houlihan’s return to racing Grand Slam meets to be broadcasted by CW Sports, Peacock, and NBC Balancing travel, work, and running Looking ahead to the Mara…
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Today on group chat, we have Tommie Runz, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka. Episode rundown: Logging your shoes on Strava, yay or nay? New contracts rolling out for professional athletes Brooks is having a moment! The upcoming half marathon champs The Eugene Marathon and Tommie’s work there Show notes: Grant Fischer’s Race Workout: https://www.youtub…
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The “My Favorite Workout” series is back and we are joined by American Record holder and Central Park Track Club coach Roberta Groner. Roberta shares her two favorite workouts that will help you in shorter races and marathon training Career Highlights: 8 American Records 45+ in the 8k, 10k, 12k, 10m, and Marathon US Olympic Trials Marathon Qualifie…
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In this engaging conversation, Maurice shares his journey as a dedicated runner, emphasizing the importance of resilience, community, and personal growth. He discusses his impressive run streak of over 3,300 days, the challenges and triumphs of setting and achieving running goals, and the significance of building an in-person running community. Mau…
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Today on group chat, we have Kofuzi, Peter Bromka, and Laura Thweatt. Episode Rundown: Houston marathon and half marathon recap Recapping Kofuzi’s race in Houston Kofuzi’s reflections on working with the Runna app Joe Klecker’s half marathon debut The rivalries being built up Josh Hoey’s American Record in the indoor 1000m Take on Barilla’s Protein…
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Ever wonder what it's like to live and train in Boulder? Would it be the dream of many miles on soft surfaces in thin air? Or the nightmare of never feeling like you've trained enough, leading to burnout, injury, and dejection? Laura Thweatt and Peter Bromka are joined by the unofficial and not self-anointed "Mayor of Boulder Running" Brian Schroy!…
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This week on group chat, we have Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, Tommie Runz, and Kofuzi. Episode Rundown: Will Laura become a shoe tester with Kofuzi? It’s race week for Kofuzi! What we’re looking forward to in 2025 Ingebrigtsen’s marathon (and his tattoo game!?) Woody Kincaid and Joe Klecker’s marathoning career and Joe's half marathon debut What’s o…
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In this episode of the Rambling Runner podcast, I share my journey through athletic challenges, focusing on my experiences with running higher mileage, personal growth, and the importance of finding balance in training. I reflect on my attempts to increase mileage, the mental and physical toll it took, and how I ultimately reassessed my goals to cr…
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Today on group chat, we have Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, Laura Thweatt, and Lindsey Hein. Episode Rundown: Laura’s transition in her career and continuing to chase high level running while deciding her career path New things to look forward to with our Chat With a Pro series What shoes will Laura be trying on next? Will Peter finally coach Lindsey …
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In this conversation, Téo Wallace shares his journey from starting running to lose weight to becoming a dedicated amateur runner, the challenges he faced (including a grueling 31-mile run in the middle of summer), the mindset shifts that helped him overcome obstacles, ending with back-to-back marathons in six weeks ending in a PR. Téo emphasizes th…
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Natalie Mitchell has proven that even long-term dedicated amateur runners can get faster, even into their 50's. She's a shining example of what's possible. Not only that, she's a dedicated coach who has also been assisting with two of her children's high school team. The boys squad, on which her son Josh is a senior, just won the 4A California titl…
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This week on group chat, we have Kofuzi, Lindsey Hein, Peter Bromka and Tommie Runz. Each of the hosts share their favorite moments in the running world in 2024 including their favorite moment in the pro running scene, their own personal favorite running moment, and their favorite moment watching their friends crush their running goals! Media recom…
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In this conversation, Matt interviews Arthur Blue, an accomplished ultra runner and military veteran. They discuss Arthur's journey from a traditional athletic background to embracing ultra running, influenced by his military experiences. Arthur shares insights on the challenges of his first ultra marathon, the lessons learned from failure, and the…
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In this episode, host Matt Chittim shares insights on winter running challenges, post-marathon recovery strategies, and how to maintain fitness during the holiday season. He emphasizes the importance of staying active, adapting workouts for winter conditions, and finding ways to keep up with fitness goals despite busy schedules. Matt encourages lis…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Laura Thweatt sitting down for a girls chat! They talk all things turkey trots, recap the results of the Valencia Marathon, and give a rundown of the start lists for CIM this weekend! At the end, they also share some of their favorite books, shows, and movies they've been consuming! Media recommendation…
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Cindy Vink's marathon progression is the dream of nearly all dedicated amateur runners who step up to the 26.2 mile distance. Two years ago she ran her first marathon in 4:36. A high quality effort, especially when you factor in her lower mileage training. Two years later, in her third marathon, Cindy ran a blistering 3:14! In this episode, Cindy d…
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Stef & Peter recap their amazing day running the NYC Marathon. Stef paced former Relay member Caroline Su, while Peter ran until his leg locked up, then tried to enjoy it as much as possible. From the ferries to the busses, emotional support dogs to cheer crews across all boroughs, they can’t recommend racing NYC enough. This episode features Stef …
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Last weekend Lindsey Bradley set a PR and a course record at the Indy Monumental Marathon. Like many times in her running journey, Lindsey had to overcome a significant hurdle on her way to victory (in this case, a hard fall after getting clipped by a fellow runner). In this fascinating episode, Lindsey details her amazing running journey, includin…
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Allie Caminiti is back on the podcast with some important information for runners of all abilities who are having trouble with feelings of shame in their running, and in themselves. In this episode, she provides valuable information what is "shame," how to recognize if it affecting us, the sneaky ways it can hide in our lives, and how we can overco…
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