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Four Hundred & Nineteen

Gretchen DeBacker, Matt Killam and Kevin Mullan

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Join co-hosts Gretchen DeBacker, Matt Killam & Kevin Mullan as they welcome various guests from across NW Ohio. Each episode only one of the hosts knows the guest, which will undoubtedly lead to fun, unscripted, and truly organic conversations about life, work, and our favorite people, places and things around the the Toledo area (aka the "Four Hundred & Nineteen". Tune in every month to meet (or re-meet) some truly incredible people (and Matt). Want to join our live show? Click the "web" ic ...
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I Was There Too

Matt Gourley

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If you're like Matt Gourley (Superego, Drunk History, Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend), then you know all the classic movie and television scenes so well it's like you were in the room when they happened. Well, you weren't. And neither was he. But the people Matt interviews were! Listen in as they tell the inside stories of how cinema and television history was made from a fly-on-the-wall perspective you've never heard. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In this episode, we sit down with Matt's guest, Lori Hauser, CEO of Toledo’s beloved Imagination Station. Since taking the helm in 2008, Lori has transformed this hands-on STEM museum into a thriving learning environment that’s fun, collaborative, and inclusive. We get into her leadership journey, her mythical ex-boyfriend, and why Imagination Stat…
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He runs an award-winning social media account, but more importantly than that, Gretchen's guest is a true civil servant. Capt. Bobby Chromik joins us to talk about the Lucas County Sherriff's office and how he built one of the most prolific social media accounts in the region. Thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Management WorkSpring…
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It was bound to happen... On this episode of The Four Hundred & Nineteen, both Gretchen and Matt invited the same guest. Luckily, Gretchen took the lead and Rev. Gayle was far too comfortable leading Matt on. Regardless of how she got here, we had a great discussion about life, Toledo, faith and more. Thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Managemen…
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When our next guest had his own podcast, Kevin was guest #1 (technically 0, because it never released), so naturally Kevin waited until Season 2 to welcome him on. This episode, Kevin welcomes one of his closest friends and favorite elected officials - District 5 City Councilman, Sam Melden to talk family, work, and all things Toledo. Thanks to our…
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Gretchen welcomes one of her dearest friends, and not surprisingly he's connected (perhaps even related) to her co-hosts as well. Phil Skeldon is a true servant leader, a member of a powerhouse Toledo family, and an impassioned advocate for social justice and equity in every sense of the word. Thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Management WorkSp…
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It's a special 419 Day release of The Four Hundred & Nineteen. We love our Metroparks, and our guests and listeners do to. It's why nearly every guest has mentioned area Metroparks among their favorite amenities around the region. On this episode, Matt welcomes his boss, friend, and fashion inspiration, Dave Zenk, Director of Metroparks Toledo as o…
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In this episode of The Four Hundred & Nineteen, Kevin welcomes Dr. Amerah Archer—Toledo native, scientist, globetrotter, educator, and advocate for advancing youth educational opportunities. Dr. Archer shares her inspiring journey from working in a Chemistry lab to shaping young “Scientists” at Scott High School, and speaks candidly about the evolv…
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In this episode of The Four Hundred & Nineteen, Gretchen welcomes the dynamic Lexi Staples—artist, activist, and advocate for Toledo’s creative and LGBTQ+ communities. As the driving force behind events like Toledo Pride and a champion for local artists, Lexi shares her journey, the impact of inclusive spaces, and the power of using creativity to f…
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We are LIVE from Stone Cut Bistro, the newest restaurant by the Hajjar brothers, and it's no suprise that Gretchen has pushed the envelope yet again... Instead of a surprise guest, we welcome a surprise guest CO-HOST, from Q105, Eric Chase. Eric's guest is a Sylvania native who's worked with Beyonce and Eminem, and he does it all from here in NW Oh…
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Matt's first guest of 2025 has his finger on the pulse of the local arts scene, and the organization he leads - The Arts Commission of Toledo - has been the lifeblood of local arts for almost 50 years (he's not old enough to have been there that long...). We had a great conversation with the incomparable Marc Folk and explored his origins as an art…
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It's Gretchen's first guest of the year and she couldn't have selected somebody with more energy, passion for the community, or as Liam Neeson would put it "a very particular set of skills." She's not gonna track you down and hurt you with them, but Raina Dawson could certainly send you a perfectly typed letter. One thing we know for sure, you are …
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We kick off 2025 with an iconic Toledoan! Kevin invites his longtime friend, and former Juvenile Court Judge, Judge Denise Navarre Cubbon for an engaging conversation about her path to the bench, love for the community and growing up in Toledo. Special thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Management WorkSpring (formerly The Employers Association)…
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In a rare twist of the format of the show, Kevin invited a guest that he's never actually met in person. That didn't stop him from admiring the work that Jacob Parr does and his passion for Toledo. Safe to say you won't find anybody who wants to fly Toledo's flag more than Jacob. Sponsors: Workspring Whetro Wealth Management…
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For the 100th and final (for now) episode of I Was There Too, Matt finally gets to sit down with his long-sought guest, actress Brooke Smith. She joins Matt to discuss her role as Catherine Martin aka the girl in the well in the 1991 horror film The Silence of the Lambs. Catherine chats about having to gain weight for the role, reading with three d…
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Gretchen welcomes a Toledo native, daughter of legendary Toledoans and the new development director for one of Toledo's most impactful non-profit organizations, Erin Baker. We talk about life, work, family and more and we're confident you'll love Erin's passion and energy just as much as we do! Thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Management Works…
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The incredibly talented actor Toby Huss joins Matt to discuss his role as Ray Nelson in the 2018 slasher film Halloween. Toby talks about director David Gordon Green letting him improvise, being attacked by fire ants while filming, and how his character might have turned out to be deaf. Plus, Toby talks about his other various film and TV roles whi…
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Actress P.J. Soles joins Matt this week to talk about her role as Lynda van der Klok in the 1978 John Carpenter classic Halloween. P.J. talks about why the way she said “totally” secured her role in the film, what it’s like to shoot a sex & death scene all at once, and her thoughts on her legendary death scene being recreated at Halloween Horror Ni…
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In this episode of The Four Hundred and Nineteen, Matt welcomes Nick Morgan, founder of Glass City Improv, to explore the power of improvisation in communication, storytelling, and everyday life. From the stage to the boardroom, he offers practical insights for anyone looking to enhance their communication skills and create meaningful interactions.…
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Accomplished actor and rapper Carlos Leal joins Matt to discuss his role as Tournament Director in the 2006 James Bond film Casino Royale. Carlos shares never before told stories about his original role as the croupier, why he believed for 24 hours that he was going to be the villain after his audition, and falling asleep in his chair while filming…
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Matt is joined by the wonderful actor, Tony Way. Tony chats about his time on Game of Thrones as Sir Dontos Hollard, his experience playing backgammon with Diana Rigg, and shares a very surprising I Wasn't There Too. So sit back, brew some tea and enjoy this very British episode of I Was There Too. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more in…
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We had the chance to sit down with NEW University of Toledo Women’s Basketball Coach Ginny Boggess, and she brought some incredible energy and insights to the conversation. From her coaching journey to the challenges and triumphs of leading a Division I program, Ginny gives us a look at what it takes to build a winning team both on and off the cour…
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Comedian, writer, and actor Taran Killam joins Matt to talk about his role as Hamilton in the 2013 period drama 12 Years A Slave and his time at Saturday Night Live. Taran chats about doing magic in an ultimately cut scene, director Steve McQueen giving a pillow a second take, and pushing for the top hat. Also, we hear about Taran’s audition experi…
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The great Andy Daly joins Matt to discuss his role as Mailroom Worker in the 2011 film, Transformers: Dark of the Moon. Andy talks about auditioning for Michael Bay as the director sat on the floor, doing a product placement scene for an item Michael Bay referred to as “China milk,” and having a stuntman who looked nothing like him get slammed agai…
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He's a lover of live music and moving trains and he's Gretchen's 6th most favorite person in Toledo (her words). He's the man behind Toledo.com, tune in to hear the incredibly talented, passionate, and funny John Eikost on this episode of The Four Hundred Nineteen. Thanks to our sponsors: Whetro Wealth Management The Employers Association…
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Matt goes out in the field to Amity Island itself, the beautiful Martha’s Vineyard, to talk to the locals about the 1975 blockbuster, Jaws. Join Matt as he visits the Jaws bridge location, an actor from the film, Chief Brody’s house, The Chappy Ferry, and more. There is even talk of a recent shark attack to add to the experience. Enjoy!This episode…
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Matt and guest co-host Paul Rust are joined by actors Robbi Morgan, Melanie Kinnaman, and Shavar Ross of the Friday The 13th franchise live from the Dynasty Typewriter theater in Los Angeles! They talk about how Robbi feels about being the first of many deaths to kick off the franchise as Annie the hitchhiker, Shavar aka Reggie the Reckless not kno…
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Lace up your hiking boots and pick a bunk because your stay at Camp Crystal Lake is just beginning. In this free and full-length primer episode of 'In Voorhees We Trust With Gourley and Rust,' you’ll learn why Matt and Paul love the Friday the 13th franchise so much, what they expect to learn about themselves in revisiting it, and how they plan to …
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We are LIVE from the patio of the beautiful Glass City Metropark with not one, not two, but THREE incredible women who share their passion, talent and heart with Toledo every single day. Plus, our friend and sponsor Tim Whetro joins us to kick off the show. First up on this episode, Kevin welcomed the CEO of Connecting Kids to Meals, Wendi Huntley …
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In part two of a special two-part episode, wonderful writer Ben Blacker (Hex Wives, Thrilling Adventure Hour) interviews Matt all about his experience hosting I Was There Too. Matt shares stories about the dream guests that got away, how he puts his guests at ease before interviewing them, and more as they look back at the some of the funny, weird,…
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Veteran of the Vietnam war, actor, and technical advisor Dale Dye joins Matt to talk about how he became the military technical advisor for Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, and more. Dale talks about his mission to meet with Oliver Stone to help bring more realism to Hollywood films, how Oliver Stone helped him get the acting bug, an…
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Our latest episode of the Four Hundred Nineteen Podcast, featuring none other than Billy Mann! Billy is a true Toledo powerhouse—bringing his energy, passion, and insight to everything he does. In this episode, we dive deep into his journey with the Boys & Girls Club of Toledo, the lessons he’s learned along the way, and his vision for the future o…
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In part one of a special two-part episode, wonderful writer Ben Blacker (Hex Wives, Thrilling Adventure Hour) interviews Matt all about his experience hosting I Was There Too. Matt shares where the idea for the show came from, his preparation process for interviewing his guests, and his dream guest list as they look back at the some of the funny, w…
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The wonderful Yeardley Smith (The Simpsons, Small Town Dicks Podcast) returns to join Matt to discuss her role as Putter Jacks in the 1985 film The Legend of Billie Jean. Yeardley also talks about her experience as the sassy virgin secretary on Herman’s Head, her first film Heaven Help Us, and jumping onto the fast moving train that was Sports Nigh…
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