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Divergent Conversations

Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

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Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they sh ...
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Autism Stories

Autism Personal Coach/Doug Blecher

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Autistic people are the true experts of the autistic experience. Autism Stories will help you to live your best autistic life by interviewing autistic people and others in the autism community who share their experiences, stories, and advice with you. Learn how coaching can help you then book a free call with Autism Personal Coach https://autismpersonalcoach.com
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GoalChat

Debra Eckerling

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The GoalChat podcast is your go-to destination for all things goal-setting, productivity, and personal and professional development. Whether you're striving to achieve your career goals, enhance your time management skills, or find motivation to pursue your passion, this podcast is for you. Each week, host Debra Eckerling invites three experts to dive into a special topic. Debra and her panel of thought leaders, entrepreneurs, and creatives share their own experiences, successes, and challen ...
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Creativity isn’t just a spark or a talent—it’s a vital tether to our humanness, especially in a world that can feel overwhelming or isolating for neurodivergent people. Whether you feel energized and alive, or stuck in a season of fatigue, the pursuit and practice of creativity can connect us to ourselves, our aliveness, and our communities. In thi…
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"I'm hoping that what is happening with AI can go down a path that ultimately allows more people to tell their stories more effectively and with less limitations and with less gatekeeping than ever before", says Anthony Leckie. Anthony joins this episode to discuss being the editor for Autism Stories and ethical uses of AI. To learn more about Anth…
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Finding real connection and community as a neurodivergent person can be both beautiful and complicated. We often long for community that gets us, but knowing where to look or how to show up as ourselves can feel uncertain. Having spaces where we feel seen, supported, and not too much isn’t just affirming — it’s important for our well-being. In this…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling has a serious conversation about humor on this week's GoalChat with multi-hyphenate authors Amy Ferris, Mighty Gorgeous and Marrying George Clooney, and Rob Kutner, Snot Goblins and The Jews: 5000 Years and Counting. The panel talks about their experiences and projects - in addition to books, Rob is…
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"Autistic women, especially those of us who are late identified, have spent our entire lives performing outside of our comfort zones just to survive, just to pass, to feel safe. [...] And that caused us chronic burnout, sensory overload, and a disconnection from our authentic selves. So telling us to get out of our comfort zone, it's like pouring w…
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Navigating constant news cycles and the pressure to engage with digital content that often changes by the minute and is expressed with different narratives can be uniquely challenging for neurodivergent individuals. Finding authentic ways to support your mental health, honor limited energy reserves, and cultivate meaningful community has never been…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Substack with Jim Fuhs, Fuhsion Marketing and co-host of Dealcasters, senior publicist Kat Neff from Llewelyn, and post-executive coach for women Viveka von Rosen, Beyond the Dream Board. The trio share their enthusiasm and tips for the platform in this entertaining, informative, and sli…
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"[My book's] about the generational trauma that can come from masking for generations and the complexity of neurodivergence and the complexity of how it can manifest, how it can present, how we can all have this thing in common, but all treat it in really different ways", says Meg Eden Kuyatt. Meg joins us to discuss generational trauma, writing po…
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Grieving the loss of a beloved pet or navigating collective trauma can feel overwhelming, especially for neurodivergent individuals who experience heightened attachment and sensitivity. This episode highlights the raw realities of grief, loss, and emotional processing, and explores the complexities unique to neurodivergent wellness journeys. In thi…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckering talks about Food and Productivity with Sarah Nathan, Megan Porta, and Babette Pepaj. Sarah is founder of NOOISH, a Jewish comfort food brand that has instant matzo ball soup as its first product; Babette is founder of BakeBot.ai, among other food ventures; and Megan is founder of the Pip and Ebby foo…
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"I would go so far as to say that there is a distinct form of people pleasing that autistic people engage in[...]. [...] It's like, this is my personality because it's my mask. I've created this person that whose worth is entirely dependent on how other people perceive me and how useful and how little needs I have, how much I can provide for other …
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Prioritizing wellness and authentic connection is essential for neurodivergent individuals, especially during times of low energy or change. This episode highlights how embracing interdependence, rest, and honest communication can support deeper well-being and resilience within both friendships and professional collaborations. In this episode, Patr…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses graphic novels with Ben Berkowitz, co-writer of The Writer, along with his brother, Max, and actor Josh Gad, and cartoonist Chari Pere of the "Unspoken" Cartoonmentary series, among others. According to them, a graphic novel is a book-length work, where you explore themes and stories (Ben)…
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"A huge part of my early discovery and then building a life that's more resilient to burnout has been understanding my sensory profile, getting to know what actually works for my sensory system, what soothes it, what comforts it, what triggers it", says Dr. Megan Neff. Dr. Neff joins this episode to discuss her Autistic Burnout Workbook. To learn m…
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Struggling with feelings of not being “good enough” or questioning your legitimacy, even as your achievements grow, is a common but often isolating experience for neurodivergent professionals. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the complexities of “not good enough” schemas, impost…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling speaks with Marcia Macomber, Kandas Rodarte, and Chris Stone about having fun with tech. Marcia Macomber is a radio host and website/graphic designer, Cornucopia Creations; Kandas Rodarte is an accountability coach and host of the Gratitude Geek Podcast; and Chris Stone, who co-hosts Dealcasters Liv…
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"But for me, at least, music has always emphasized my emotions with an internal soundtrack, if that makes any sense, it's as much a part of my brain and internal dialogue as anything else, really", says Mitch Boucher. Mitch joins this episode to discuss rejection sensitive dysphoria and his love of baroque music. To learn more about Mitch and his m…
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Navigating the healthcare system and advocating for needs can be a frustrating and invalidating experience, especially for neurodivergent individuals who exhibit interwoven behaviors associated with OCD, autism, or Tourettes. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, and Dr. Stacy Gree…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Social Media with grandfluencer Kristen Coffield, Active Grandparenting; octogenarian TikTok star Annie Korzen, author of The Book of Annie; and the anti-caterer/author Chef Rossi, The Raging Skillet. Kristen, Annie, and Rossi have all used the power of social media to share their voice …
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"That's kind of where I stepped in with, yes, if I want to help people to improve their quality of life, I need to understand what quality of life looks like for autistic people", says Becca Lory Hector. Becca makes her return to Autism Stories to discuss the research from her and her team regarding quality of life for autistic people. To learn mor…
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Dealing with chronic health issues can often feel like a neverending battle, especially when it seems like there’s no clear path to improvement. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss their personal battles with chronic health conditions. They provide an insightful analysis …
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Sustainability with eco-conscious founders Noah Bleich, The TeaBook (he calls it "Sustainabili-tea"), chocolate educator Ruth Kennison of The Chocolate Project and Rick Nahmias, Food Forward Inc., which recovers surplus produce and distributes it to agencies who feed the hungry. While th…
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"I think that's one of the things that's helped me [...], writing about it, right. Writing about these characters that are not afraid to advocate for themselves. [...] And think about how can I be more like my main character?", says DeAndra Davis. DeAndra joins this episode to talk about her new book All the Noise at once. In this compelling, movin…
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Neuroimmune systems often intertwine with chronic health and neurodivergence, leaving neurodivergent individuals grappling with things like energy management, chronic fatigue, or other long-term health conditions. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Dr. Mel Houser, an A…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling celebrates the quarter year with Stacia Crawford of Stay Ready Media and community builder Keith Spiro. Stacia and Keith are both featured in Deb's latest book, "52 Secrets for Goal-Setting and Goal-Getting." The panel shared some of their wins so far for 2025, along with upcoming goals. Stacia spen…
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"It was actually fascinating because going into [The Traitors], I thought the missions would be the thing that I would like the least. [...] But the missions for me in my season were actually great and really exciting because there was always an element of strategy involved in the sense that you could make choices to further your own game in our mi…
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Neurodivergent individuals can sometimes feel overwhelmed by emotions or struggle to understand their own stress responses, and entrepreneurship can add another level of intensity to this experience. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Yunetta Smith, a licensed clinicia…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Branding with Ivonne Ribeiro, iBrandStrategist; Stan Robinson, Jr., Social Sales Link; and Troy Sandidge, Strategy Hackers®. The panelists share their takes on what branding is - Ivonne: Your reputation; Troy: proximity, positioning, power; Stan: What people say about you when you are no…
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"That diagnosis when I got it, just really floored me, because I've always been verbal, very verbal, and I'm very outgoing, [...] I just have always been what I am, and things just didn't work out right, and I just kept trying", says Marilyn Roy. Marilyn joins this episode to discuss being diagnosed with autism in her sixties. If you could subscrib…
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For adults who are questioning if they are Autistic, ADHD, etc., there is often an exploratory and somewhat confusing phase where they feel in between two different identities. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Jak Levine-Pritzker, ADHD coach and founder of Authentica…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about empowerment in honor of Women's History Month. Her guests: Karen Wang Diggs, author of "The Book of Awesome Asian Women," among others: Joanna Dutra, Motivator-in-Chief, The Creative Confidant; and Dayna Steele, author, entrepreneur, activist, and so many other things. A huge part of emp…
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""The services [Autistic Black Coders] are going to be providing is that it's going to be a business service that is providing people in the black community that are going to be [...] getting into tech and learning the software engineering side to become a full stack developer eventually", says Oluwaseye Ogunfidodo. Oluwaseye joins this episode to …
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A traditional workplace can be really challenging for neurodivergent individuals, and if a workplace culture is made to be one-size-fits-all, the chances are high that it won’t fit for many neurodivergent people. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Lyric Rivera, founder…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses podcasting with Erik Fisher and Jürgen Strauss. Erik hosts Beyond the To Do List and Jürgen hosts the InovaBuzz podcast; Debra hosts Tastes Buds with Deb, as well as GoalChat. Podcasting is a gateway to conversations, relationship development, and information. The three talk about the valu…
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"One of the rules is that you don't discuss certain topics in public. And those topics include things like sex and body parts. So it can be hard to overcome that taboo and realize that a sexual or reproductive health appointment is exactly the appropriate place to discuss these topics", says Stephanie. Stephanie joins this episode of Autism Stories…
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Sensory meltdowns and shutdowns can be deeply misunderstood and unsettling experiences, whether you've faced them personally or seen a loved one struggle. For many Autistic individuals, dealing with overwhelming sensory stimuli is a recurring battle. The space between feeling in control and experiencing a complete sensory meltdown or shutdown can b…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about community with Mike Brennan, Creative Chats; Jessie-Sierra Ross, Straight to the Hips, Baby; and David Shriner-Cahn, Smashing the Plateau. You can't reach your goals on your own; you need like-minds, supporters, and resources. Mike, Jessie-Sierra, and David share their experiences creati…
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"In the film [Sensory Overload], it's based on the premise that 20% of the population has significantly higher sensory processing than everyone else, it's a large proportion of people", says Burnett Grant. Bernard and Burnett return to Autism Stories to discuss their involvement in the documentary Sensory Overload coming to Hulu this week. To learn…
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Navigating a world packed with all sorts of seemingly mismatched sensations, either overstimulating or understimulating, and having passionate interests that can appear as all-consuming to others, can be challenging and greatly impact the way we build relationships and even just get through the day. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr.…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling discusses well-being with artist and synesthete Heather Eck; speaker, advocate, and founder of The Miracle Project Elaine Hall; and author, astrologer, and expert in dreams Dr. Michael Lennox. The panel, who also share advice and experience in Debra's 52 Secrets for Goal-Setting and Goal-Getting, ta…
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"We're still paying [airline] customers, [...] I feel like wheelchair users or people that use mobility aids should still be treated like human beings and seen as valuable as just any other person that is using a service", says Jay Manuel. Jay joins this episode to discuss traveling with mobility aids and his tv show that will be coming to the tv c…
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Navigating the identification, assessment, and diagnosis of ADHD as an adult can be confusing and overwhelming. This mini-series on ADHD focuses on demystifying the diagnostic criteria and making the process clearer and more understandable. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, div…
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On this episode of GoalChat, host Debra Eckerling talks about Focus with Ed Brill, Jeff Goldberg, and Christine Toy Johnson. Since Ed is in product leadership, Jeff is a sales problem solver (The Sales Pro Network) and a stand-up-comic, and Christine is a playwright and actor, we approached the topic from tech, sales, and creative standpoints. As "…
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"A place where we spend a lot of time is in front of our laptops, computers and phones, and in many cases those spaces aren't very calming because the colors and other things on websites can be very overwhelming. So [the] calmspaces.org website looks to address this", says Marion Hersh. Marion joins this episode to discuss the creation of the calm …
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Navigating the world with ADHD can present unique challenges, particularly when it comes to motivation and productivity. Whether it's the difficulty of getting started on mundane tasks or the complexities of staying engaged over time, the rollercoaster of emotional ups and downs can be hard to manage. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and D…
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On this week's GoalChat, Liz Heiman, Dave Sanderson, and Brynne Tillman join Debra Eckerling to talk about Networking. Liz is CEO and chief sales strategist, Regarding Sales; Dave is a speaker, #MiracleOnTheHudson survivor, and publisher of "Moments Matter" magazine; Brynne is CEO of Social Sales Link and host of the Making Sales Social podcast. Th…
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"Many leaders are fearful of coming out, so to speak, with being neurodistinct. That's unfortunate. There is a popular statistic that 20, 25% of Fortune 500 CEOs identify as neurodivergent or specifically dyslexic, but they only talk about that in private circles", says Grant Harris. Grant joins this episode to discuss his work as a certified diver…
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It’s common for ADHDers to feel these waves of inspiration that may lead to a romanticized version of the future that would come by acting on them. However, if action is taken, it alternatively might be accompanied by the ADHD tax—financial burden, over-commitment, broken dreams and promises, feelings of guilt and regret, etc. In this flashback epi…
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On a productive GoalChat on Productivity, host Debra Eckerling speaks with Chris McKenney, founder and CEO of Mango, publisher of Debra's latest, "52 Secrets for Goal-Setting and Goal-Getting;" Troy Sandidge, founder of Strategy Hackers®; and behavioral epidemiologist and entrepreneur Kate Wolin. The trio all have secrets featured in 52 Secrets. Pr…
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"Autism is my divinity, so I am grateful to my mind for being different. I am grateful to my parents for being my support system. Gratitude is my attitude. Always be grateful for this life because this life was lived once", says Navneet Kulkarni. Navneet and Padma Jyothi join this episode to discuss Indian non-speaking autistics and the power of gr…
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