More Exemplary is an ongoing quest: to determine the ways we can live our lives better and more completely. The path to contentment includes looking deep within as well as connecting with the world around you. I’m connecting with some of my favorite people from different walks of life in order to learn how they find happiness for themselves and enhance the world for others. I’m also drawing on my experience as a licensed therapist to help people figure out how to create nourishing and sustai ...
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S4E1: Burnout Patterns and What To Do With Them (with Monica Helvie)
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29:15It's hardly a secret that therapists (and other helpers) and the best, brightest, and kindest folks out there. But what about when the relentless performance and sacrifice wear us down? On this episode, Monica Helvie, LMFT, sits with me and explains the inner workings of overfunctioning caregivers that lead to exhaustion and burnout- and walks us t…
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S3E9: Stacy's Story, Part II (with Stacy Baker)
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48:45Part II of Stacy Baker's Story! Those of us who supervise (hopefully) understand that the relationship between supervisor and supervisee is as important as any clinical information we could provide. But what about when the supervisory relationship and workplace are tainted by racism and ineptitude? In this two-part episode, I interview Stacy Baker …
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S3E8: Stacy's Story, Part I (with Stacy Baker)
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1:04:09Those of us who supervise (hopefully) understand that the relationship between supervisor and supervisee is as important as any clinical information we could provide. But what about when the supervisory relationship and workplace are tainted by racism and ineptitude? In this two-part episode, I interview Stacy Baker to learn about her experience wo…
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S3E7: Wandering and Delving with Highly Sensitive People (with Lori Cangilla)
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28:21"Highly Sensitive People", while not an official diagnosis, is a description of a group of people that have long gone ignored in our society. In the last 20 years or so, folks have started specializing in working with this group of people. Lori Cangilla was kind enough to join me and provide us with a primer on how people can do good, competent wor…
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If you've done any amount of networking, then you've met a million therapists who say they like working with creative folks. But what does it take to do really good work with creatives? This week, I spoke with entertainment-industry-veteran-turned-therapist Phil Stark about his journey from creating to healing fellow creators. If you enjoy laughing…
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S3E5: Minefields for Those on Therapy's Front Lines (with Ben Esch)
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37:49One of the sad truths about the field of therapy is that there isn't enough positive guidance or mentorship for folks who are new to the field- and the result, often, is exploitation and/or misery. This week, Ben Esch, AMFT, sat down with me to discuss some of the pitfalls and red flags that prelicensed people might encounter in the world of therap…
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S3E4: Harry Gives 'Em the Razzle-Dazzle (with Harry Au)
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36:25Any credible therapist does their own work on their own trauma. However, few therapists have the level of self-love and vulnerability it takes to be able to look at their own role within and effects on the world around them. This week, I was lucky enough to talk to Harry Au, who candidly discusses his own healing journey. Of all the interviews I've…
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S3E3: Discussing High-Demand Groups on a Low-Acuity Podcast (with Melissa Hannan)
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37:41As people become more aware of the abuses being visited by high-demand groups, the need is constantly rising for skilled clinicians who can treat trauma related to cult abuse. This week, I was treated to a highly interesting and informative talk on this topic by Melissa Hannan, who was definitely there of her own free will and not because she was a…
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S3E2: The Blender of Tragedy (with Cynthia Greenburg-Dunlop)
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28:29Grief is one of those universal issues that virtually everyone faces- so why are clinicians so scared to work with it? This week's guest, Cynthia Greenburg-Dunlop, gives us the straight dope on her journey towards focusing on treating grief and the challenges and fulfillment she's experienced along the way. If you quail at the idea of working with …
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S3E1: Finding Your True Kernel (with Djuna Osborne)
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24:22As clinicians, sometimes the road is not so clear- in a field with so many different options for theories, methods, and approaches, how does any of us become a fully-realized therapist while running a business and doing the clinical work? Djuna Osborne has done the hard work to learn about herself, and finally found an incredible modality that allo…
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S2E10 - All The Answers Are Correct (with Rebecca Doppelt)
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32:50Rebecca Doppelt is a clinician practicing in Los Angeles, who has really cool and interesting ways of conceptualizing and working with betrayal. She was kind enough to share with me her own original treatment method, which blends trauma and grief therapy, and how she uses it to ease people's pain and teach them how to re-parent themselves.…
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S2E9 - I Am the Net (with Marissa Esquibel)
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25:49S2E9: I Am the Net (with Marissa Esquibel) Marissa Esquibel is a thriving therapist in Claremont, CA, and the host of the Codependummy Podcast. Marissa shares with me the harrowing tale of starting a business right at the beginning of the pandemic, and how she helped herself overcome the setbacks and fear so that she can help others.…
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S2E7: Obsessing Over OCD (with Jackie Shapin)
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28:45My friend and colleague Jackie Shapin has been getting a lot of training in the area of OCD recently, and was sharing with me some of the amazing things she's learned about how this disorder affects people, the unexpected ways it shows up, and most importantly, how it's treated. This conversation was a learning experience for me, and I hope it will…
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S2E8: Fairy Tale Syndrome (with Erline Maingot)
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33:20As we launch into a new presidency, a new year, and hopefully a new era in how we treat one another, I took the opportunity to discuss Peace and Contentment with podcaster and friend Erline Maingot. Erline's viewpoints are always interesting to me, and she's not afraid of hard questions. Enjoy!By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S2E6 - Perfect Daughter Tells the Truth (With Michelle Lange)
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27:15Alcoholic families are shaped differently than families without an addict. Nick interviews Michelle Lange to learn some of the issues and obstacles faced by people who grow up with an alcoholic parent.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S2Ep5: I Can Love You and Be Disappointed By You (with Eliza Steel)
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29:40By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S2E4: Love is a Choice, Love is a Verb (with Mandie Carroll)
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28:38In the season where are all perennially torn between eating delicious things and meeting others' expectations for how we should look, how do we make our choices? How do we love ourselves when we're told so often that we're not enough? Nick speaks with personal trainer Mandie Carroll, the owner of rockthebodyyourein.com, to discuss the right ways to…
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S2E2: Like a Tarantula Molting Out of Its Skin (with Tiffany McLain)
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26:42An amazing podcast with my friend and colleague, Tiffany McLain discussing how to kick some ass in business and in life.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S2E3: Living with a Narcissist (with Amoret Kaufman)
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30:39Tune in to this episode to hear Amoret's story and as we discuss all things related to narcissism.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S2E1: Turning Toward the Wound (with Ariel Hirsch)
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28:06This week, Nick speaks with LA-based therapist and master embroiderer Ariel Hirsch, MFT on the subject of healing. I always enjoy picking Ariel's brain about broad topics, because I am always rewarded with wisdom. Enjoy!By Nick Bognar, MFT & Ariel Hirsch
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S1E7: The Whitest Conversation Ever (Season 1 Finale)
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1:03:47In the last episode of Season 1, I brought back nearly all the guests from the first season to discuss our personal and professional responses to the racism that -although it has existed for centuries- is just now becoming more visible to people like us on a daily basis. This conversation, like the profession of psychotherapy itself, was populated …
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S1E6 Testing the New Limits (with Sarah Kate Valatka)
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31:03In this episode, I talk with Blacksburg, Virginia-based therapist Sarah Kate Valatka about the ways our lives were beginning to take shape during the beginning of the coronavirus.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S1E5: Love and Happiness in Spite of Trauma (with Kirstin Carl)
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32:46I spoke with Los Angeles-based Kirstin Carl, MFT, about the work that traumatized people can do to rebuild their self-esteem and find love and contentment. People who are survivors of trauma often feel the most alone and helpless of any of us- and Kirstin's voice is an important one for them to hear.…
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S1E4: Because I Choose To (With Clint Berry)
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38:53I spoke with my friend Clint Berry, who always has a fresh outlook on troubling times. Clint shared with me the ways that he finds contentment, and accesses unconditional love for the world around him. I've always valued Clint's perspective- both because it's so positive, and also because it's often really, really different from my own.…
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S1E3: Deep, Deep Thinkers (with Rose Kormanyos)
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42:25I spoke with Cincinatti therapist Rose Kormanyos about the work of therapy with individuals and couples who are highly intelligent and deeply cerebral. Rose had a lot to say about existential contentment vs. joy, which is always at the center of the happiness conversation.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S1E2: Don't Be Afraid Of the Dark (with Holly Anderson)
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28:05During this episode, Holly Anderson and I brave the challenges of wind-battered sound to discuss Holly's practice with highly successful women, and the fears that hold people back from leading the lives that they want.By Nick Bognar, MFT
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S1E1: Fertilizer is Literally Shit (with Jenn Fredette)
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49:12In the inaugural episode of More Exemplary, I talk with Virginia-based therapist Jenn Fredette, LPC, and we embark on a swear-laced discussion on the different ways that she and I work with anger, and the ways that we seek happiness in daily life.By Nick
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