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This is a place for dialogue about 'Christians vs Pharisees: Choosing sides and how to fight for them in the Mormon Civil War' and other collaborations like 'The Loyal Opposition' where Peter Bleakley has teamed up with Nemo the Mormon. At current rates of decline in active membership the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will functionally cease to exist in Europe, most of the rest of the world and several regions of the USA in the next 10-15 years, so radical reforms need to happe ...
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this final conversation Paul shares his conclusions about the Godhead that the text of the Book of Mormon actually describes, and it’s nothing like the ‘Fullness of the Gospel’ deity the LDS Church thinks it is telling us to believe in. We also talk about the what a final jud…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this penultimate episode we try to make some sense of 5 of the biggest conundrums in Mormon theology: 1 - How is God male and female? 2 - Who actually is Jehovah in the Temple Endowment? 3 - Disentangling who is what in the several different Mormon Godheads 4 - Who exactly is…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues As we continue to ponderize how to integrate the religiously ideal with the real in our normal lives, Paul and I discuss what it means to base a religion on the glory described in Mormon scriptures of truth, light and freedom to think for yourself rather than Lucifer’s religion …
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this meaty episode we explore all kinds of aspects of what taking the LDS temple endowment’s promises seriously can unlock for autonomous, ordained men and women empowered to free themselves from authoritarian control by General Authorities and instead replace them as the dem…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In the first of a 2-parter we start to learn what Paul Toscano means by ‘Chapel Priesthoods’ and ‘Temple Priesthoods’. After a much more sophisticated beginning, how did the LDS leaders establish a male-only, correlated bureaucracy that tightly controls every expression of pries…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues How do you solve a problem like Joseph Smith? Can a master manipulator, con artist, skilful storyteller, sexual predator, financial fraudster, and destroyer of printing presses also be a prophet of God? The Apologists for the LDS Church have had to concede enormous amounts of te…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode we wrestle with the conflicting qualities required of the leaders of a religion. Ideally they need to balance a mystical sensitivity for the divine, a calling to challenge society to do better and champion the interests of the poor and oppressed as social justice…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode we dive into the challenges and frustrations of interacting with a religious text. If it is not accurate, literal history, why should we still bother with the Book of Mormon as metaphorically or religiously useful literature? After all, we can learn dozens of pro…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this episode, with reference to powerful visionary experiences of his own and his ancestors, Paul explores the simultaneous relationship between the real and the figurative in the visions and encounters with the divine that lead people to begin or believe in religions. We may…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this third of 12 conversations we discuss how to have a rational faith. What is the difference between using our intellectual reasoning and imagination rooted in all available evidence and lived experience to construct and evolve a belief system personally or collectively, an…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this second of 12 conversations we explore the ultimate theological conundrum: If religion and Gods are real rather than a human invention to help us cope with our own inevitable deaths, how are we to bridge the gap between our existence as limited mortal animals trapped in a…
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Peter, Paul and Mormonism – The 12 Days of Christmas Toscano Dialogues In this first of 12 conversations we explore some of Paul's journey to excommunicated September Sixer and beyond as one of the very few people even trying to be a proper theologian in Mormonism. We start to chew on what Mormonism has to offer Christians who have been wrestling w…
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I grew up in an LDS Mormonism ready to take on the world, fill the world and rescue mainstream Christianity from its fundamental doctrinal flaws. Fearless about an intellectually defendable thoughtful faith and fizzing with big ideas about people, Gods, and our destiny in the stars of a vast universe that could keep up with the expanding realms of …
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With April 2024 General Conference looming in a few days, the Church haemorrhaging members and facing extinction in the coming decade, and a First Presidency in their 90’s and on their very last legs, how about a different kind of General Conference Predictions show? Rather than being hopeful but realistic in our predictions for what the General Au…
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What if there was a General Conference of the leading LDS Loonbats selling dangerous brutal parenting, energy healing mumbo jumbo, porn addiction paranoia, anti-science propaganda, child rescuing fraud with celebrity donors, thought-stopping Blind Faith and end time prepper visions of imminent apocalypse? All curated by notorious ‘Visions of Glory’…
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As I continue to map out a pathway for radically reforming the LDS Church to avoid its imminent self-destruction that is already authorised by its scriptures and written constitution, things just got wild! This episode will begin to guide you through the astonishing parade of scammers and lunatics with their own visions for the rescue and future of…
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The 11A 'Take Back Control' miniseries will resume soon, but here is a special treat. Maven crossed the world to join me in the Sceptred Isles and review an extraordinary and rare encounter in Online Mormon World. Brian Hales, regarded as the leading expert on Joseph Smith's Polygamy having published a trilogy about it, went on Michelle Stone's pod…
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As the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints falls into its final self-inflicted spiral to destruction here in the UK, around the world, and even in its American heartlands, it's time to get real. After 5 years of exploring the causes and solutions for this crisis, in this miniseries I will make the strongest case I can for what has gone wron…
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As we conclude the Bradgate Episodes 10 series things get truly crazy. Imagine if despite the Church officially disavowing all racism in and out of the Church, past and present, in its 2012 statement and 2013 Race and the Priesthood Gospel Topics Essay, and everything President Nelson has been saying to the Mormons and the NAACP about moving on fro…
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In this episode Bradgate reaches the day of reconning. Brad Wilcox's fellow Young Men General Presidency member Ahmad Corbitt is quickly brought in to rehabilitate him in his next youth fireside. It should have been perfect - Brad sort of apologises without being specific about much, and his token black friend spins a yarn about how cosmopolitan Br…
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In this episode we experience and discuss the very best and very worst of Brad Wilcox - a fantastic General Conference talk that would have transformed by experience as a youth but came 3 decades too late, and his nosedive into weak apologetics, sexism and racism in his infamous Alpine Tri-Stake Youth Broadcast. We also have some serious thoughts a…
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In this episode we finish analysing what Brad Wilcox said in his online fireside Sunderland, England Stake hosted before launching into his Alpine Tri-Stake Disaster, and the rehabilitation that made everything worse, in the following episodes. I also do my best to keep up with developments in the shocking exposure by Associated Press reporter Mich…
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In this episode we spend some time dipping into the Covid Lockdown online fireside Sunderland, England Stake hosted with my favourite kosher LDS apologist, historian Patrick Mason, as a contrast to the approach of Brad Wilcox and other General Authorities and apologists like him. Patrick talked a lot of sense, addressing directly the trust-threaten…
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BRADGATE!! WHAT THE CHURCH MUST LEARN FROM THE FALL AND ATTEMPTED REHABILITATION OF BRAD WILCOX EPISODE 10B - BRADGATE!! WHO IS BRAD WILCOX? AND WHAT DID HE TEACH THE TEENAGERS OF THE BRITISH ISLES? As we celebrate the first Platinum Jubilee of a reigning monarch in our entire history this week this is the first of two episodes exploring what Brad …
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BRADGATE!! WHAT THE CHURCH MUST LEARN FROM THE FALL AND ATTEMPTED REHABILITATION OF BRAD WILCOX EPISODE 10A - THE STATE OF THE DISUNION There is so much to chew on as we process what Brad Wilcox, Elementary School Teacher, BYU Professor of Ancient Scripture (with no relevant qualifications whatsoever), internet sensation and Counsellor on the Young…
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Here is my presentation at the awesome recent Sunstone UK conference in Birmingham. - Find out the current state of play at the Battle’s Front! - 25 brilliant ideas in Mormonism that are worth fighting to defend and restore! - How exactly we could make the reconstruction happen in time before defeat becomes inevitable? It was a great event with lot…
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If you could write a letter to the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that they were obliged to actually read instead of just forwarding it to your Stake President to deal with without reading it as they usually do, what would YOU want to put in it? This is a vanishingly rare, once in a lifetime opportunity for a fa…
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Apostle Jeffrey Holland ruffled a lot of feathers in a speech at BYU last week in which he bullied the faculty that they should turn metaphorical muskets against LGBTQ students, their allies, and critics of the Church, and prioritise being propagandists over credible academics even if it means the university losing accreditation for its courses, or…
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There will be a few more 'Episode 6 - The Thought Police minisodes', but it's time to deliver the long-promised Episode 7, which will probably have 2 minisodes. Here I explore what I think are the doctrinal and organisational strengths of Mormonism that could still save it from its current freefall into oblivion, and even enable it to become a majo…
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- MY INVITATION TO AN APOSTASY TRIAL - THE WOMEN AT IT AS WELL - THE SHAME GAME - MRS B TRIES TO BE A PHARISEE - REASONED PROGRAMMING - THE C WORD - PETER THE PERSECUTED CULTIST - MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER AND HOW IT WAS MEANT TO BE FROM HUGH B My part on the Mormon Civil War is heating up as I have been invited to a trial for Apostasy, but this provide…
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- THE CONSPIRACY TO SILENCE - ROLL THE ROLE MODELS IN GLITTER - LIMITED LIVED LIVES - TYPOGRAPHY CHRISTEMPOROI - HISTORY HUBRIS - PRIDE. LAZINESS. COWARDICE. - DOUBTING THE DOUBTS ABOUT THE DOUBTERS - MAGNA AMERICANA BLOWHARDS - THE LAZY LEARNERS AND LAX DISCIPLES IN CHIEF - SANTA MUERTE IS THE GODDESS WHO CHOOSES THE PROPHETS OF THE PHARISEE MORMO…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 6C - AN ANCIENT EVIL AND A PURE DELIGHT - IT’S FUN TO LIVE IN FEAR OF THE S.C.M.C. - AN ANCIENT EVIL AND A PURE DELIGHT - STEPPING UP AND MOVING EVER ONWARDS - ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN MORMON OR A PHARISEE MORMON? This minisode 6C has a lot of laughs and hop…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 6A - THE THOUGHT POLICE ‘Claims being currently circulated are based on a narrow perspective and limited information’ - HONESTY - THE LAWYER AND THE TRUTH BOMBS - BALANCE - DO AS YOU’RE TOLD, KEEP QUIET AND WAIT TO DIE - WHO ARE THE LORD’S ANNOINTED?…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 6B - THE THOUGHT POLICE: POSTMODERN PANTOMIME AND THE MURAL MASSACRE - IF THE PROPHET IS A LIAR, WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE TO TELL YOU? - FACT-PROOF PHARISEES - POSTMODERN PANTOMIME - THE MURAL MASSACRE - THE BETRAYAL OF THE MORMON ARTISTS…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 5C - THIS IS YOUR PLACE IN THE PHARISEE FINANCIAL FEUDAL SYSTEM: THE MORMON MIDAS TOUCH - THE MORMON MIDAS TOUCH - THE SKEPTICAL ACHILLES HEEL - YOUR PARTY IS OVER - ‘OTHERS DID RECEIVE GREAT LEARNING BECAUSE OF THEIR RICHES’ - ‘PLEASE SIR, CAN I HAVE S…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 5B - THIS IS YOUR PLACE IN THE PHARISEE FINANCIAL FEUDAL SYSTEM: ‘TOODLE PIP, TITHING!’ - TOODLE PIP, TITHING - THE MARX BRETHREN PRESENT: THE THREE RICHEST STOOGES IN THE WORLD - FULL STEAM BACK TO THE FUTURE WITH DALLIN - LIBERATE THE CAPTIVE MISSIONA…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 5A - THIS IS YOUR PLACE IN THE PHARISEE FINANCIAL FEUDAL SYSTEM - THE STOCKDALE PARADOX - MAMMON MIA! - THIS IS YOUR PLACE IN THE PHARISEE FINANCIAL FEUDAL SYSTEM - THE SWORD OF VENGEANCE HANGETH OVER YOU - SABBATH OR SOULS?…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War Episode 3 – IT’S A TRAP! How the ‘Pharisee Mormon’ General Authorities have been setting up the young adults for Disillusionment, Divorce and Disempowered Women this year… AGAIN - A NEW HOPE - THE FARCE AWAKENS - THE DESERET EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - THE ROGUE ONE …
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 4 - WHY THE CHURCH REALLY CRASHED How Boyd K Packer Provoked The Virtual Vengeance of a Wrathful God - DEMOCRACY OR MONARCHY? - WHAT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA REALLY TELLS US - HOW BOYD K PACKER RUINED MY LIFE - THE VIRTUAL VENGEANCE OF A WRATHFUL GOD - THE GENE…
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War Episode 2 - MORMONISM HAS WORKED FOR ME BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYONE? - WHO ARE THE REAL PROPHETS? - WHITE MALE CISGENDER HETERONORMATIVE PRIVILEGE - PONDERISE EMERITISE AND DECOLONISEBy Peter Bleakley
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Christians v Pharisees: Choosing Sides And How To Fight For Them In The Mormon Civil War EPISODE 1 - 15% AND FALLING - Active membership is falling fast - Racism and thinking Africa will save us - The empowering internet revolution - The Silver Fox foretold the faithful future - What are the real problems and how can we solve them?…
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