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How It All Went South

Sean Kipe and Jason Hoch

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Sean Kipe and Jason Hoch have been making podcasts together for a while now and decided to make ‘How It All Went South’ because they realized they had collected so many stories between them over the years. They've worked together on some of the most popular and beloved podcasts out there - In the Red Clay, Fox Hunter, In the Land of Lies, and Drowning Creek. Along the way, Sean and Jason would call each other constantly, always wanting to share even crazier and more wild stories…and they wan ...
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In the Land of Lies

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Sean Kipe tells the story of former Georgia police officer Michael Chapel, convicted of the 1993 robbery and brutal murder of Emogene Thompson and sentenced to life in prison. However, with the recent surfacing of new information, Chapel’s story may have taken a dramatic turn – one that could potentially prove his innocence. Kipe takes a deep dive into Chapel’s past to find the unbelievable truth behind a story that involves corrupt police officers, crime rings, drug trafficking, steroids, a ...
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Jason discusses Lois Gibson, world record holder known for her incredible sketches used to try and solve thousands of cases. Sean discusses the Angie Solomon murder-for-hire case in Franklin, TN. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthpodcast And... get merch at Printify! Fo…
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In this week's episode, Sean discusses the case of Mark Twitchell, the 'Dexter Killer' and Jason dives into the story of Tatsuya Ichihashi, a man on the run for over 2 years following the murder of Lindsay Hawker. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthpodcast And... get mer…
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Jason discusses the shocking events that Paul Templer faced while in Zimbabwe when he came face to face with a rogue male hippo. Sean discusses a recent criminal case that was 'solved' by social media. But there's more to the story here than maybe what you've read. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsou…
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In the sweltering summer of 1989, Patricia Stallings cradled her three-month-old son, Ryan, as she and her husband David rushed to a St. Louis hospital. Little did they know that this frantic trip would be the beginning of a harrowing journey through a labyrinth of medical misdiagnosis, legal missteps, and a mother’s worst nightmare. Follow us on a…
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In this week's episode, Sean talks about a Chinese scheme where multiple hitmen kept passing the buck to someone else to do the job. Jason discusses the fascinating world of fingerprint mutilation and how even famous gangsters have tried to use it as a technique to get away with their crimes. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentso…
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By some crazy coincidence, both Sean and Jason talk about incidents in the air. Sean talks about how a man in Seattle stole a plane and went for a joyride before meeting his untimely death while Jason discusses a prison breakout from the 80s that is the most romantic gesture ever involving Nadine and Michel Vaujour. Follow us on all the socials: In…
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The Barbara Mackle case involved the 1968 kidnapping of 20-year-old Barbara Mackle, who was abducted from a motel in Decatur, Georgia. Her kidnappers buried her alive in a specially constructed box, demanding a ransom from her wealthy family. After 83 hours, she was rescued by the FBI. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth Tik…
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Sean uncovers a ghostly coincidence in the breaking news case about a potential hit of a Ghost Adventures cast member.... ordered by his wife. Jason discusses the shocking 1993 case of James R Scott and how a levee breaking on the Mississippi River sent him to prison for over 30 years. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth Tik…
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On February 28, 1997, two heavily armed bank robbers engaged in a fierce confrontation with the LAPD in broad daylight in the streets of North Hollywood, CA. It is one of the most intense and pivotal gun battles in U.S. police history – and will forever be known as The North Hollywood shootout. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwent…
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Sean allows A.I. to take over his life, falling for the tech hacker that grabbed millions from Facebook and Google. Jason discusses a breaking case of an 80-year old female victim found near the river's edge in Oregon... in a suitcase. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouth…
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While on trial for rape, Brian Nichols overpowered a deputy, stole her gun, and embarked on a deadly rampage. He murdered Judge Rowland Barnes, court reporter Julie Ann Brandau, and Sheriff's Deputy Hoyt Teasley within the courthouse. A massive manhunt for Nichols ensued, causing panic and fear across the Atlanta area. Follow us on all the socials:…
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In this week's episode, Jason discusses the use of so-real-you-can't-believe-it masks that'll make you take a second glance at a suspicious person. Sean discusses the news of a cold case from 1977 set in Hawaii that may have finally been resolved. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howit…
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Christopher Knight, known as the "North Pond Hermit," lived a solitary existence in the Maine wilderness for 27 years, from 1986 to 2013. He survived by stealing supplies from nearby cabins, committing hundreds of burglaries. Knight's secluded life ended when he was apprehended in 2013. His story gained widespread attention due to the extreme lengt…
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If you enjoy How It All Went South, try Slaycation—a darkly comedic podcast exploring murders, mysterious deaths, and disappearances that happen while you’re on vacation. Hosted by a social worker turned true crime enthusiast, her comedy screenwriter husband, and their Emmy-nominated TV producer friend, this gripping series will have you laughing, …
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Jason discusses the case of Victor Bernal, director of zoos and parks for the interior state of Mexico, along with 4 accomplices, showed up to purchase a gorilla in a hanger in Miami. But Bernal and his crew didn't know was that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had set up a sting. Sean discusses the case of Charlie Javice, accused of fraud in a $…
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The Fred Roehler case centers on the 1981 deaths of Verna Roehler and her son, Douglas Johnson, who drowned during a boating trip near the Channel Islands, California. Initially deemed an accident, suspicions arose due to inconsistencies in Fred Roehler's account and the discovery of head injuries on the victims. Investigations revealed substantial…
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In this episode, Sean discusses the tragic murder case of the Candy family in Oklahoma, where husband and father Jonathon Candy killed all but one of his family members, then turned the gun on himself. Jason discusses the infamous case of Michael Fay from 1993, a teenager who received a controversial caning at the hands of the Singaporean governmen…
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On January 13, 1982, Air Florida Flight 90 crashed into the Potomac River shortly after takeoff from Washington National Airport. The Boeing 737-200, bound for Fort Lauderdale, Florida, with a stop in Tampa, encountered difficulties during its ascent. The plane struck the 14th Street Bridge, a busy thoroughfare connecting Virginia and D.C., before …
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Jason discusses the case of Johnny Gosch, a boy who disappeared in 1982 in Wes Des Moinse, Iowa while delivering newspapers. Forty-two years later, the case remains unsolved. Sean shares the story of the kidnapping of Jessica Alba while on a movie set in the 1990s. Little is known since the incident of what really happened that day. Follow us on al…
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In 1986, Jacqueline Lard, a realtor in Stafford County, Virginia, was found murdered in a wooded area after disappearing from her office. The case remained unsolved for nearly 40 years until DNA evidence linked her murder to the 1989 murder of Amy Baker in Fairfax County. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitall…
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Sean discusses the case of Jack Snyder, a Michigan teen who was murdered after offering two teenagers a ride home after spotting them walking in the cold. Jason finds a way to connect a timber rattlesnake, a stolen car, an open bottle of whiskey and Uranium to a man in Oklahoma looking to make... super snakes? Follow us on all the socials: Instagra…
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David Paul, a prominent figure in the 1980s savings and loan crisis, was the head of CenTrust, a major financial institution in Florida. In 1990, federal regulators seized CenTrust Tower due to the bank's unsound financial condition, reporting significant losses. Paul was accused of draining millions from the failing institution, using the funds fo…
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Jason discusses the use of cadaver dogs in searching for bodies surrounding open cases and uncovers the case of Sandra Anderson, a renowned dog handler who trained cadaver dogs, particularly her dog Eagle. They gained national recognition for their work in locating human remains. However, it was later discovered that Anderson had been planting evid…
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The Station nightclub fire, during a 2003 Great White concert, killed 100 people and injured 230. The fire was started by pyrotechnics igniting flammable acoustic foam in the walls and ceiling. The club was overcrowded, with 462 people in a venue with a capacity of 404. The fire spread rapidly due to the lack of sprinklers and a series of other ter…
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Sean discusses the news this week of a French woman who was scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars by someone claiming to be Brad Pitt, who the woman thought she was in a real relationship with. Jason also goes full imposter mode by breaking down the incredible chameleon of the 1950s, Ferdinand ‘Fred’ Waldo Demara, Jr. Follow us on all the…
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Listener Discretion Advised. Colleen Stan was kidnapped in 1977 by Cameron and Janice Hooker and held captive for seven years. During her captivity, she was subjected to extreme physical and sexual abuse, including being confined to a box for long periods. Cameron manipulated Colleen into believing that she was a slave and that an underground organ…
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In this episode, Jason explores the world of competitive eating and the not-so-surprising deaths that have resulted from the sport while Sean goes to a dark place to discuss the Dennis and Cynthia Perkins case. Listener discretion is advised. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwe…
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Jason is all in on psychics with this episode on Dorothy Allison. Who is she? Dorothy Allison was a self-proclaimed psychic detective from New Jersey. She gained some notoriety for her work on the Atlanta child murders of 1979-1981 and for her appearances on television shows like "Unsolved Mysteries" and "Secrets of the Unknown." Follow us on all t…
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Sean discusses the case of two Singaporean nationals who were arrested and are facing charges in U.S. District Courts in Florida and California, respectively, in connection with a massive cryptocurrency theft worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Jason opens up the dictionary and learns a new term - salami slicing. Follow us on all the socials: In…
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In 1989, a man named Alexi Indris-Santana was accepted to the prestigious Princeton University based on not only his intellect but also his incredible back-story of being a self-educated ranch hand with a 1410 SAT score. The school was so taken with Santana, that they agreed to defer his enrollment one year so that he could care for his sick mother…
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Sean discusses the stalking case of teenager Emma Walker while Jason is all-in ending the year calling out some of the dumbest robberies. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthpodcast And..…
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Sean discusses the gruesome murder of Tim McLean, a 22-year-old carnival worker, who was traveling on a Greyhound bus in Canada. The murder was committed by Vince Li, a Chinese immigrant, who stabbed McLean unprovoked and then decapitated him in front of horrified passengers. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode …
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Jason discusses murder cases that were tied to daytime television shows in the 90s and 2000s while Sean goes deep into an emerging type of addiction. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthp…
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Jason discusses the Friendly murders that took place in Palm Springs, California in 1978. The victims were Edward and Sophia Friendly, a wealthy couple with ties to prominent families, and their maid, Francis Williams. The murders were particularly gruesome, with all three victims shot in the head at close range. The initial investigation focused o…
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Jason is fascinated by a recent tarantula smuggling incident out of Peru and Sean shares more dumb criminal stories... including the Great Cat Shaver. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouth…
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Sean discusses the case of Jennifer Wilbanks, a bride from Duluth, Georgia who went missing days before her wedding in 2004. Despite an extensive search involving local and federal law enforcement, Wilbanks was eventually found in Albuquerque, New Mexico, claiming to have been abducted and sexually assaulted. However, she later confessed to fabrica…
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Jason and Sean discuss the case of Jessy Kurczewski, who was convicted of murdering her friend and caretaker, Lynn Hernan. Hernan was found dead in her home, initially thought to be a drug overdose, but toxicology reports revealed a fatal dose of tetrahydrozoline, the main ingredient in eye drops. Kurczewski was suspected due to her suspicious beha…
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Sean discusses the notorious Slenderman case out of Waukesha, Wisconsin while Jason stays closer to home with the developing case of Melissa Wolfenbarger's murder. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howi…
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The wild story of Joe Passalaqua, a former Olympic hopeful turned gym owner who became in a series of crimes. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthpodcast And... get merch at Printify! Fol…
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Jason discusses the legendary granny jewel thief Doris Payne. Sean takes on the case of Calum Simpson in the UK. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouthpodcast And... get merch at Printify! …
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Jason and Sean discuss the murder plot of Andre Montgomery, grandson of Miss Robbie, who founded the famous soul food restaurant Sweetie Pie’s in St. Louis. The restaurant was the setting for a popular reality series on the Oprah Winfrey Network. Tim Norman, Miss Robbie’s son, was convicted of conspiring to murder Andre. You can also watch full vid…
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Jason discusses the North Dakota case involving the scam and murder surrounding a $30 million dollar inheritance. Sean finds a story about how something as simple as a sugar water solution lead to one man's painful death. Then, Jason and Sean talk The Anarchist's Cookbook and Faces of Death. You can also watch full video versions of this episode an…
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Sean and Jason discuss crimes related to food including one about two men who started a meth lab in a Taco Bell in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and another on a man who killed a Chinese restaurant delivery driver over duck sauce. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @how…
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Sean discusses the Chicago Poopgate scandal that followed The Dave Matthews Band for years. Jason dives into the case of the two women named Mary Morris who died in the same city just three days apart. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth Tik…
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Sean discusses the Ash Street Shootout and how Army Staff Sergeant, Bill Foulk returned from deployment in 1989 to find his Tacoma, Washington neighborhood overrun by drug dealers and gang members. Foulk and his neighbors tried to work with the police and city council to address the issue, but they were met with inaction. Frustrated, Foulk installe…
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Sean discusses a recent case of a deceased man set to donate his organs, with medical officials discovering he wasn't actually dead. Jason discusses the case of the Kamal family murders in Dover, Massachusetts. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwent…
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Sean Kipe and Jason Hoch discuss the case of Guy Heinze Jr., who was convicted of murdering eight members of his family in Brunswick, Georgia in 2009. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the socials: Instagram: @howitallwentsouth TikTok: @howitallwentsouth YouTube: @howitallwentsouth…
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If you've ever watched the movie or tv series, 'Fargo' you're familiar with the claims that 'this is a true story'. Though long proven untrue, Jason discusses how there are parts of the movie that ARE based on real events. Sean discusses the tragic and shocking death of child actor Judith Barsi, who starred in The Land Before Time, All Dogs Go to H…
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Debbie Collier, a 59-year-old mother, sent her daughter a cryptic Venmo message one afternoon. Jason and Sean talk about the mystery behind what happened to Debbie Collier after this, and the controversy surrounding the police's investigation. You can also watch full video versions of this episode and every episode on YouTube. Follow us on all the …
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