Best sowhatelse Podcasts (2025)

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SWEpisode | Real ID, Slurpees, & Happy Tail Syndrome 1:05:54

6d ago1:05:54

1:05:54

Jayce Elliott takes over the pod this week. Emily is crowned the breastfeeding Queen. Matt’s shopping algorithm is on point and maybe knows him a little too well. Kaitlin and Matt debrief their passport renewal journies (spoiler: it’s a mess). Are Slurpees and slushies the same thing? And Emily educates us about Happy Tail Syndrome. Pure chaos, min…

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Nicole Zasowki Returns | Daring Joy 48:18

13d ago48:18

48:18

Nicole Zasowski is an author and licensed marriage and family therapist (and returning favorite to the pod!) and she's here to talk about her brand-new Bible study, Daring Joy: What Six Women in the Bible Teach Us About the Power of Celebration When it Feels Risky, Complicated, and Even Impossible. We dig into the question: how do we hold on to rea…

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SWEpisode | Baby Norah's Birth Story 1:32:10

20d ago1:32:10

1:32:10

Baby Norah has finally arrived! Matt and Emily recount all the wild, emotional, and chaotic details of Baby Norah’s grand entrance into the world. Plus, Norah makes her podcast debut by contributing some of her own sound effects to the story. Welcome to the SWE chaos, baby girl. Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlin…

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Amber Lia | A Biblical Approach to Gentle Parenting 53:15

27d ago53:15

53:15

Author and speaker Amber Lia joins us to talk about her brand-new devotional, Untriggered: 60 Days of Transformation for Moms Who Struggle With Anger. Amber gets real about what it looks like to parent with grace, even when your kids are driving you crazy. We dive into the sometimes-controversial term "gentle parenting"—why it’s often misunderstood…

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SWEpisode | Date Night Pod Night 1:05:11

1M ago1:05:11

1:05:11

Emily and Matt just had their baby so they’re busy trying to figure out how to keep a tiny human alive. That means it’s date night pod night for Kaitlin and Scott and they discuss very normal topics like: Is Chat GPT a man or woman? Does brushing a toddler’s hair backward make it thicker? Why are ski lifts not regulated? Plus, Scott has a mental br…

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SWEpisode | Sweet Caroline...Bah Bah Bah! 56:02

2M ago56:02

56:02

Caroline's back and she's better than ever! Everyone's favorite other sister returns and we cover everything from the orthodontist to voicemails to Kaitlin’s childhood anxiety to walking pads at work to kebabs and the gym. It’s unhinged and slightly therapeutic...it's Caroline. Get 20% OFF Magic Mind One-Time Purchase or 48% OFF A Subscription http…

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SWEpisode | Adolescence, Transparent Shades, & Divebombing Insects 1:10:58

2M ago1:10:58

1:10:58

Kaitlin finds a tick on her moments before we hit record. Unsurprisingly it wasn’t the only traumatic insect incident of the week. Scott installs a bougie outdoor warm water faucet. We talk about the new Netflix show Adolescence (it’s amazing—go watch it), and we check in on Emily’s pregnancy. Anxiously waiting for labor to ensue is its own special…

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Sheila Wray Gregoire Returns | The Marriage You Want 44:08

2M ago44:08

44:08

Sheila Wray Gregoire is back...for the third time (making SWE history)! A speaker, author, and podcast host, Sheila challenges outdated ideas and offers fresh, research-backed perspectives on what makes a marriage truly thrive. She's here to chat about her new book, The Marriage You Want: Moving Beyond Stereotypes for a Relationship Built on Script…

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SWEpisode | DOWN WITH THE BOOK FAIR!! 1:19:34

2M ago1:19:34

1:19:34

Emily is mere moments away from giving birth. Kaitlin gives Emily a breast pump tutorial. Meanwhile, the sinkhole saga is escalating. We also tackle some very important topics: Why are all Jr.’s men? Kaitlin’s 42 potential Easter outfits The Diet Coke debate—people have opinions. Even the tooth fairy is being impacted by inflation. Food conspiracie…

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Erin Hicks Moon | The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out With God 47:48

3M ago47:48

47:48

Writer, podcaster, and resident Bible scholar, Erin Hicks Moon, joins us for a fun, honest, and thoughtful conversation about faith, doubt, and asking big questions. Erin is the author of the Substack newsletter The Swipe Up, where she tackles God, faith, and American Christianity. She's the Resident Bible Scholar on the Faith Adjacent podcast as w…

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SWEpisode | If A Tree Falls, Does Suzy Hear It? 1:00:48

3M ago1:00:48

1:00:48

Emily is beyond pregnant. Walkie-talkies are being under-utilized. Baby Carpenter makes an “appearance.” Big Yellowstone discussion, so if you haven’t seen it…you’ve been warned. Does anyone else call butts, “coolies”? Follow up on the facial journey. Matt’s toe still hasn’t fully healed and still looks like a disaster. Scott finally sees an ENT fo…

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Justin and Trisha Davis | Break The Cycles That Hurt Your Relationships and Hold You Back 50:12

3M ago50:12

50:12

Justin and Trisha Davis, founders of RefineUs Ministries, are here for a powerful and honest conversation about rebuilding trust, breaking unhealthy cycles, and creating deeper connection in our most valued relationships. As authors, teachers, and coaches, their mission is to help people walk in truth and healing—and their personal story is a testa…

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SWEpisode | Garrett DeClue, Glass Blinds, & Mr. Pierce 1:20:08

3M ago1:20:08

1:20:08

If you've spent any amount of time listening to SWE, you've heard us talk about Scott and Kaitlin's nephew, Garrett DeClue–player in the Savanna Banana's baseball league and woodsman extraordinaire. Well, Garrett is here, and as they do, things spiral fast! Kaitlin celebrates her birthday with a very painful facial. Emily has a baby shower, and sti…

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Dina Deleasa Gonsar | Recipes to Fill Your Table, Words to Fill Your Heart 1:42:48

3M ago1:42:48

1:42:48

Dina Deleasa Gonsar is an author, speaker, TV personality, and the creator of DishItGirl. You know her from Good Morning America, Fox News, E! News, Married to Jonas, or her podcast She Lives Fearless—but today, Dina Deleasa Gonsar is pulling up a chair to get real about life beyond the kitchen. We talk about her journey through postpartum depressi…

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SWEpisode | Visual Shock, Cuisine Art, & A Dog With No Eyes 1:22:09

4M ago1:22:09

1:22:09

It’s SWE’s birthday, and—shocker—we forgot…again. Emily takes a gestational diabetes test and promptly throws it up all over the parking lot. Matt and Emily are deeply immersed in Yellowstone, and everyone agrees Wicked was a hit. Kaitlin’s life has been completely transformed by sleeping with earplugs. Emily consistently vetoes Scott’s décor ideas…

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Brooke Outland Bryant | A Journey Of Love and Loss 1:19:38

4M ago1:19:38

1:19:38

This week, it's an honor to welcome a dear friend, Brook Outland Bryant. Brook works with Safe Families, an organization that seeks to keep kids safe and families together. We dive into her journey of blending a family through marriage, adopting two boys internationally and a son domestically, and, most poignantly, the birth and loss of her daughte…

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SWEpisode | The Elliotts 1:08:00

4M ago1:08:00

1:08:00

Kaitlin and Scott hold down the SWEpisode fort this week as a stomach bug invades the Elliott household. They chat about grown-up things like microwave covers and saving money, and Kaitlin meets with a spiritual director. Get 45% OFF Magic Mind https://www.magicmind.com/whatelsejan DISCOUNT CODE: WHATELSEJAN Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingracee…

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Emily Holthaus | Raising Financially Confident Kids! 1:03:26

4M ago1:03:26

1:03:26

Emily Holthaus is the founder of Raising Little Millionaires, an organization dedicated to helping parents raise financially confident kids. We dive into practical tips like teaching kids about budgeting, navigating the tricky topic of allowances, and answering the age-old question: Should you gift your kid a car? Plus, we’re breaking down how to h…

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SWEpisode | The B-Team (Caroline & Josh) 1:39:08

5M ago1:39:08

1:39:08

This week, the B-team takes over! Imposters, Caroline and Josh, crash this week’s SWEpisode in Emily and Matt’s absence and bring their own brand of chaos. Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else So What Else WebsiteBy So...What Else?

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SWEpisode | Sinkholes, Boxbollen, & CarMax 1:08:58

5M ago1:08:58

1:08:58

New year, same chaos. Welcome to 2025, SWEople! Kaitlin gets a new phone and promptly forgets how phones even work. “Chip it!”—don’t worry, that’ll make sense later. Meanwhile, Route 80 East literally falls into the earth, trapping us in Western Jersey. And what does one do when stuck in traffic and desperately needs to pee? Post-Christmas, we’ve o…

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Donna-Jean Breckenridge, Part 2 | All Things Homeschooling 55:21

5M ago55:21

55:21

This week, we’re thrilled to bring you Part 2 of our conversation with Donna-Jean Breckenridge. If you enjoyed Donna-Jean's story in Part 1, you won’t want to miss Part 2, where we dive deep into the world of homeschooling! Donna-Jean shares her passion for education, offering insight into common questions like: Can homeschooled children get enough…

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Donna-Jean Breckenridge, Part 1 | Donna-Jean's Story 1:37:46

5M ago1:37:46

1:37:46

This week, we’re bringing you Part 1 of an incredible two-part conversation with Donna-Jean Breckenridge. Her story was so inspiring and rich with insight that we couldn’t fit it all into one episode! Donna-Jean is a mom, grandmother, widow, author, speaker, and co-founder of Ambleside Online—a free Charlotte Mason-based homeschool curriculum. In t…

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SWEpisode | Christmas Skeletons, No-Wheel Drive, & Theo From DSW 1:24:27

6M ago1:24:27

1:24:27

Scott manages to order a lifetime supply of Fabletics apparel. Kaitlin orders her own not-so-secret Santa gift from Matt and ships it to the wrong address. But shoutout to Theo from DSW for saving the day. Emily’s henna brows are failing. What’s up with all the Christmas skeletons on people’s lawns? Matt calls Emily passive-aggressive…yikes. Kaitli…

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The Sisters | Henna Brows, Leggings, & OG Christmas Movies 1:00:13

6M ago1:00:13

1:00:13

They’re back! The Chicola Sisters come in clutch this week to dish on life’s most pressing topics: Emily's brand new eyebrows, favorite childhood Christmas movies, and Caroline's complete lack of skill for baking sourdough bread. But it wouldn’t be a Sisters episode without some sibling spice—Caroline spills the tea on childhood trauma caused by Ka…

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SWEpisode | Play-Doh's Closet, Patrick "Homes" & Revisiting Christmas Cards 1:11:49

6M ago1:11:49

1:11:49

Emily fainted. Scott gets the most ill anyone has ever been. (We’re so healthy.) Kaitlin gets a big pay day from selling her clothes. Why do some people put absolutely no effort into their Christmas lights? The Elliott family takes the leap into Christmas cards. Let’s bring back church directories!! MAGIC MIND BLACK FRIDAY SALE - GET 50% OFF! https…

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Brenda Yoder | Simple Secrets for a Compelling Life 59:17

6M ago59:17

59:17

In this episode, I sit down with Brenda Yoder, licensed counselor, speaker, educator, and author of Uncomplicated: Simple Secrets for a Compelling Life. Brenda shares insights from her Mennonite upbringing, offering timeless lessons from Amish and Mennonite values, including resourcefulness, folk knowledge, and cultivating contentment. We also tack…

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Jill Savage | No More Perfect Marriages 1:07:47

7M ago1:07:47

1:07:47

Jill Savage is a speaker and author of No More Perfect Marriages. In this episode, we sit down to have a heartfelt and honest conversation about relationships. Jill opens up about her and her husband's journey through infidelity and the hard work of rebuilding trust. We dive deep into the subtle "slow fades" that can erode relationships, how attach…

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SWEpisode | Kaitlin Gets A Library Card 53:53

7M ago53:53

53:53

It’s Election Week, so naturally, we don’t talk about it. Scotty has fallen ill so sadly SWE is reduced to three (Ts and Ps for Scott). Kaitlin gets a library card. Apparently libraries are still a thing. We check in on the sour bread dough journey and discuss Emily’s “pregnancy brain”… Emily has a few gaps. Matt and Emily are going to Disney, so E…

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Lisa Steven | Empowering Teen Moms To Self-Sufficiency 51:17

7M ago51:17

51:17

Lisa Steven is the author of A Place to Belong, a former teen mom and co-founder of Hope House Colorado, a sanctuary for teen mothers that empowers them to strive for personal and economic self-sufficiency and to understand their significance in God’s sight. Together, we dive deep into the realities of generational poverty, exploring the difference…

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SWEpisode | Bingeing Listeria Waffles 1:14:50

7M ago1:14:50

1:14:50

Frozen waffles get canceled because of a listeria outbreak—right after Emily spends a month binging frozen waffles for breakfast. Jayce battles pneumonia and Kaitlin… well, sort of cares. Emily and Matt might just have the worst luck with cars of all time. Emily gets caught being less than truthful. And Kaitlin nearly runs head-first through the be…

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Meghan Ryan Asbury | Building a Life You Love Without Having Everything You Want 56:14

7M ago56:14

56:14

This might just be the most relatable topic of our generation. Meghan Ryan Asbury joins us to chat about her book, You Are Not Behind: Build a Life You Love Without Having Everything You Want. We talk about how to find true satisfaction between where you are and where you want to be; how to avoid manipulating our hopes; how to deal with unmet expec…

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SWEpisode | Someone New Is Coming To SWE 1:30:52

8M ago1:30:52

1:30:52

A member of the SWE team is pregnant. Hint…it’s not Scott. And contrary to popular belief, nor is it Kaitlin. Scott and Matt go golfing and are now obsessed. Kaitlin finally admits she has a shopping problem. Emily’s everlasting-simmering-scented-pot draws a lot of attention at a recent family party. Scott is never more offended than when he’s give…

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Clarissa Moll | A Real Conversation About Teen Grief and Life After Loss 47:06

8M ago47:06

47:06

Clarissa Moll is back and she's here to talk about her new book, Hurt, Help, Hope. She co-wrote it with her daughter and it's all about teenage grief. Today we chat about; the difference between intuitive and instrumental grievers, spiritual guidance for dealing with grief, what to do if you have regrets about the person you lost, the hidden gifts …

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SWEpisode | Dirty Soda, Julia Roberts, & The Sour Bread Dough Ministry 1:12:14

8M ago1:12:14

1:12:14

Kaitlin’s sour bread dough journey is going VERY well! Scott is committed to making his smart phone as dumb as possible. Kaitlin discovers Scott’s secret stash of Magic Mind. Julia Roberts. Emily and Kaitlin are supporting their families financially with online shopping returns. Kaitlin’s car eats her credit card. Get 20% OFF Magic Mind https://www…

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SWEpisode | Dough...What Else? 58:12

9M ago58:12

58:12

Emily and Kaitlin get into a bidding war over a Cape May sweatshirt and things turn physical. Scott turns into the hulk when he drinks coffee. Kaitlin’s lettuce edge socks are Scott’s new favorite women’s sock. Barrel jeans are an interesting choice society is making. And everything you’ll ever need to know about sour bread dough. Get 20% OFF Magic…

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SWEpisode | Follow For More Parenting Tips 1:09:38

9M ago1:09:38

1:09:38

Wait...Walmart fashion is having a moment...I'm OBSESSED. Does anyone understand how thrifting actually works? Scott reveals his secret thrifting past. Parker goes flying. Matt’s (never used) razor subscription saves the day when Emily discovers the superiority of men’s razors. Emily and Kaitlin go on a walk from hell. #VoteForScott Get 20% OFF Mag…

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SWEpisode | Kaitlin Goes Down A Waterslide 1:08:06

10M ago1:08:06

1:08:06

Emily chose a career she’s allergic to. Scott doesn’t know when summer ends. Matt annoys the heck out of everyone on the internet with his incessant posting on Facebook Marketplace. Kaitlin has read so many books that she’s starting to unknowingly reread books. Local “newspaper” shouts out local hero, Kaitlin Elliott, for “saving” a man’s life. Get…

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The Elliotts | A Most Romantic Date Night 1:08:38

10M ago1:08:38

1:08:38

Kaitlin and Scott have a cute little date night (meaning…they sat down to record this podcast together). They discuss RIVETING topics like Kaitlin’s hair (again) and nails (again). They discuss Scott’s deep desire to save people from the rain and Kaitlin’s desire to let them soak and deal with their own life choices. Scott also wants to go on a mar…

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The Sisters | Prime Day, Body Suits, & The Great Gnat Invasion 1:07:11

10M ago1:07:11

1:07:11

Kaitlin, Caroline, and Emily reminisce about Kaitlin’s bad highlights. Caroline’s apartment gets overrun with gnats, she inhales a bottle of Raid, finds a stray cat, and has a close encounter with an opossum…all in one day. Emily struggles to do basic math. Kaitlin makes an Amazon Wishlist so friends and family can buy her gifts (yes this includes …

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The Crowd Favorite, Banana Ball, & The White Room 1:25:47

10M ago1:25:47

1:25:47

Emily gives Kaitlin the greatest compliment of her life. The saga continues with the curse of Matt and Emily’s HVAC. Kaitlin and Scott go on a trip to Maryland and revisit the site of Scott’s most “profound” spiritual experience. They also get to see their nephew pitch in front of 40,000 people. His name is Garret Declue. He plays Banana Ball. He’s…

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SWEpisode | Mrs. Kritz, Downward Pedagogy, & The Curse Of The HVAC 1:28:06

11M ago1:28:06

1:28:06

Emily gets FIRED UP about her and Matt’s latest HVAC debacle. Kaitlin’s driving is starting to become a genuine hazard for the general public. Everyone debates lazy vacations vs. excursion vacations. Kaitlin gets into a sticky situation with her fake nails. Everyone (except Scott…cough cough…) finally listens to Lights On with Carl Lentz and shares…

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SWEpisode | Dog Attacks, Inside Out 2, & The Return of Carl Lentz 1:18:40

11M ago1:18:40

1:18:40

Kaitlin and Emily are experiencing a dog attack epidemic. Nick Canon hosts a Father’s Day meet and greet…for his own children. Matt and Scott have strong feelings about the latest Pixar movie, Inside Out 2 (it might be the greatest movie ever made). The gang gets into politics for the first time...and last. And everyone shares their thoughts on Car…

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SWEpisode | Toadstools, Icks, and Gun Metal 1:10:28

12M ago1:10:28

1:10:28

Scott's inability to pronounce words in proper English is starting to cause mass confusion. Apparently Toad from the Mario universe has a different name?? Kaitlin nearly has an encounter with a home intruder. Matt and Emily finally upgrade to a king bed and forget how beds work. Scott has a debacle with a watch Kaitlin gifted him. Follow Kaitlin on…

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Meredith Miller | Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From 54:31

12M ago54:31

54:31

Meredith Miller is a pastor, parent, and writer with over 20 years experience in children’s ministry and curriculum. Meredith was Curriculum Director for the children’s ministry at Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago, Illinois, where she created the framework for lessons that responds to the latest research on kids and faith formation. In 2019…

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SWEpisode | Just The Two Of Us 48:49

1y ago48:49

48:49

While Matt and Emily are off developing gambling habits in Atlantic City (or ya know, attending a Veterinary conference), Kaitlin and Scott cuddle up on the couch for an Elliott’s only episode. It’s been a wild ride of a week in the Elliott household, so buckle up folks! Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.…

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Emily P. Freeman | How To Walk Into A Room 55:15

1y ago55:15

55:15

Emily P. Freeman is a New York Times bestselling author of six books, including the book she’s here to chat about today, How to Walk into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away. Kaitlin and Emily discuss when it is time to walk in and out of metaphorical rooms in our lives, why it’s okay to change your mind, and the four step…

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SWEpisode | How Does Kaitlin Survive? 1:13:10

1y ago1:13:10

1:13:10

SWE Team takes a deep dive into water (not literally...like, drinking water). Kaitlin undergoes her most difficult life trial yet, glue on nails. Kaitlin almost burns her house down with her air fryer/oven/toaster/broiler. Thankfully Emily strongly endorses the fire blanket to keep us all safe. Kaitlin severely over-trusts her GPS when driving and …

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Harrison Scott Key | The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told 1:01:43

1y ago1:01:43

1:01:43

Author Harrison Scott Key joins us to talk about his book “How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told.” Harrison shares his story of his wife having an affair (twice) and how they were able to reconcile their marriage; how he leaned into his faith and church community during the darkest time of his life; how his wife felt about him w…

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SWEpisode | One Tree Hill, The Pur, & Casa Bonita 58:31

1y ago58:31

58:31

Emily and Matt are watching One Tree Hill and stuck in 2005. Kaitlin almost ruins holidays for her children by letting them listen to her own podcast. Filtered water is taking up too much space in Scott’s life. No one can figure out if it’s “say your piece” or “say your peace.” Mark Driscoll gets booted off stage at a men’s conference. And Casa Bon…

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SWEpisode | The Solar Eclipse, Easter Outfits, & The Importance of Stretching 1:02:28

1y ago1:02:28

1:02:28

Happy Solar Eclipse Day! Kaitlin and Scott are flying directly into the heart of the solar eclipse....maybe as we speak. Scott is ancient and his body is failing him. Every illness ever has passed through the Elliott household this year. The gang chats Easter outfits and Kaitlin's potentially risqué (not actually) Easter shorts. And Matt comes up w…

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