Best Two Guys And The Cloud Podcasts (2025)

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ARSON, EXPLOSIONS, CHAOS - China's Been Hit Harder Than We Thought - Episode #261 2:07:10

16h ago2:07:10

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This week has been a disaster for China. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Free Xiaban Superchat goal episode Amusement Parks in China - https://www.youtube.com/live/6YI6vLuDqEY?si=i_ugjC_TcRqcTG7z Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightso…

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EP99-03-V3: Suno 4.5 Fun, LlamaCon, How We'll Interface with AI Next 1:34:07

1d ago1:34:07

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Get your AI workspace: https://simtheory.ai ---- 00:00 - Fun with Suno 4.5 09:20 - LlamaCon, Meta's Llama API, Meta AI Apps & Meta's Social AI Strategy 26:06 - How We'll Interface with AI Next Discussion: 45:38 - Common Database Not Interface with AI 1:03:46 - Chris's Polymarket Bet: Which company has best AI model end of May? 1:06:07 - Daily Drive…

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WNiCF - March 2025 - News 25:56

5d ago25:56

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Send us a text In this episode of What's New in Cloud Phenops, Stephen Old and Frank discuss the latest updates in cloud computing, focusing on Azure, Google Cloud, and AWS. They cover the retirement of certain Azure virtual machines, the introduction of serverless GPUs, and the benefits of Amazon Bedrock for cost transparency. The conversation als…

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You're About to See China Collapse - In Fact, it's Already Begun - Episode #260 2:00:05

8d ago2:00:05

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Ekster is offering up to 30% until May 19th, and customers will get an additional 10% off if they use our code. Go to http://partner.ekster.com/chinashow and use Discount code - CHINA Listen now to the NPR Politics Podcast, only from NPR – wherever you get podcasts. Bridges and buildings fall down as it appears China's poor quality concrete, tofu d…

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From AI Models to AI Systems and The Future of Vibe Gaming: An Average Talk 52:50

9d ago52:50

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Try Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai 👋 No episode this week but we thought we'd instead share a recent talk we did on from AI Models to AI Systems. ---- Try the games and things we built here: https://simulationtheory.ai/0664143e-f61a-4c65-bb05-62da2d22553f --- Thanks for listening, back next week with regular episode.…

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They’re Lying! China is Losing The Trade War in a BIG Way - Episode #259 1:52:49

15d ago1:52:49

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This trade war with China is getting very desperate for China. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightsounds Track : Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U Some sources - https://www.theguardian.com/n…

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EPo99.02-experimental: OpenAI's Gaggle of Models: o3, o4-mini & GPT-4.1 & Future GPT-5 Systems 1:31:06

17d ago1:31:06

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai like and sub xoxox ---- 00:00 - Initial reactions to Gaggle of Model Releases 09:29 - Is this the beginning of future GPT-5 AI systems? 47:10 - GPT-4.1, o3, o4-mini model details & thoughts 58:42 - Model comparisons with lunar injection 1:03:17 - AI Rap Battle Test: o3 Diss Track "Greg's Back" 1:08:12 - Thoughts…

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Trade War Reality Hits China Way Harder Than They Thought - Episode #258 2:10:20

22d ago2:10:20

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This trade war with China just got very real for people in China. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts China in the 90s - https://youtube.com/live/uYIG2tcgDOw Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightsounds Track : Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann …

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EP99.01: Google Cloud Next, Agent2Agent, MCPs, Agent Development Kit, Is Llama4 a flop? & Grok API 1:42:45

23d ago1:42:45

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai -- Get the official Simtheory hat: https://simulationtheory.ai/689e11b3-d488-4238-b9b6-82aded04fbe6 --- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The Wrong Pendant? 02:34 - Agent2Agent Protocol, What is It? Implications and Future Agents 48:43 - Agent Development Kit (ADK) 57:50 - AI Agents Marketplace by Google Cloud 1:00:46 - Firebas…

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China’s Tariff Response Chaos Homemade Weapons Explode Around Country - Episode #257 2:05:35

29d ago2:05:35

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle ofD3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! The tariffs are wreaking havoc on China, and there's a crazy thing happening with all the pressure it's under. Support the show h…

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EP99: Diss track ft. Gemini 2.5 Pro, Amazon's Nova Act Computer Use & The Future of Async AI Tasks 1:13:57

1M ago1:13:57

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Join Simtheory and create an AI workspace: https://simtheory.ai ---- Links from show: DIS TRACK: https://simulationtheory.ai/2eb6408e-88f9-4b6a-ac4d-134d9dac3073 ---- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Will we make 100 episodes? 00:48 - Checking back in with Gemini 2.5 Pro 03:30 - Diss Track: Gemini 2.5 Pro 07:14 - Gemini 2.5 Pro on Polymarket 17:32 - Amazon Nova A…

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Nightmare - Devastating Earthquake Exposes China's Horrific Building Quality - Episode #256 2:05:50

1M ago2:05:50

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Ekster is offering up to 30% until May 19th, and customers will get an additional 10% off if they use our code. Go to http://partner.ekster.com/chinashow and use Discount code - CHINA The Myanmar/Thailand earthquake has revealed some very, very nasty truths. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.c…

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EP98: Gemini 2.5 Pro Sponsored Episode, GPT-4o Image Generation & Vibe Coding Gone Wild 1:41:18

1M ago1:41:18

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Create a Simtheory workspace: https://simtheory.ai Compare models: https://simtheory.ai/models/ ------ 3d City Planner App (Example from show): https://simulationtheory.ai/8cfa6102-ed37-4c47-bc73-d057ba9873bd ------ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - AI Fashion 01:13 - Gemini 2.5 Pro Initial Impressions: We're Impressed! 38:24 - Thoughts of Gemini distribution and …

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Chaos Ensues as China Releases Poison Purple Clouds on Locals - Episode #255 2:06:40

1M ago2:06:40

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Purple factories, travel shills, China is really not hiding their ambitions now. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightsounds Track : Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U Some sources - https://www…

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EP97: Moore’s Law for AI agents, OpenAI's new audio models, o1-pro API & When Will AI Replace Us? 1:37:18

1M ago1:37:18

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Create an AI workspace on Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai --- Song: https://simulationtheory.ai/f6d643e4-4201-475c-aa82-8a96b6b3b215 --- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - OpenAI's audio model updates: gpt-4o-transcribe, gpt-4o-mini-tts 18:39 - Strategy of AI Labs with Agent SDKs and Model "stacks" and limitations of voice 25:28 - Cost of models, GPT-4.5, o1-pro ap…

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WNiCF - Interview with Amit - The Importance of Automation in Cloud Cost Management 43:33

2M ago43:33

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Send us a text In this conversation, Amit Saar shares his journey from software engineering at Microsoft to founding OpenOps. He focuses on the challenges and solutions in FinOps. He highlights the need for automation, accountability, and balancing innovation with governance in managing cloud costs. Amit points out the fatigue that engineering mana…

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What China's Hiding Will Blow Your Mind! - Episode #254 2:10:45

2M ago2:10:45

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! There's so much insanity in China right now. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.p…

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WNiCF - February 2025 - News 24:54

2M ago24:54

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Send us a text In this episode, Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois discuss the latest updates in cloud FinOps. With news from AWS, Google and Azure, including enhanced computing capabilities, database updates, and pricing changes. For once there are also some sustainability news. That makes me happy!By The FinOps Guys - Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois

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EP96: Gemini Native Image Generation & Editing, OpenAI's Agent SDK & Will Manus AI Invade USA? 1:12:46

2M ago1:12:46

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai ---- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Gemini Flash 2.0 Experimental Native Image Generation & Editing 27:55 - Thoughts on OpenAI's "New tools for building agents" announcement 43:31 - Why is everyone talking about MCP all of a sudden? 56:31 - Manus AI: Will Manus Invade the USA and Defeat it With Powerful AGI? (jokes) ---- Tha…

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WNiCF - Interview with Henk - Time series, forecasts and anomaly detections, all hard problems to crack. 38:12

2M ago38:12

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Send us a text We discussed the challenges of working with time series data, particularly in the context of machine learning and AI, highlighting the complexity and the need for automation in feature engineering. The importance of balancing accuracy and complexity in model creation was emphasized, with a focus on avoiding overfitting and ensuring m…

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So Embarrassing! - China Was Forced to Respond to Us - Episode #253 2:12:10

2M ago2:12:10

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Use code FACTORPODCAST at https://factormeals.com/factorpodcast to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box! China's deep water fishing fleets are out of control, and taking over the world. We also got China to change. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Cartoon feat. Jür…

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Absolute Anarchy - China Doesn’t Want You To See This! - Episode #252 1:50:05

2M ago1:50:05

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Chinese society is tearing apart at the seams, and no one is talking about it. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://soundcloud.com/nocopyrightsounds Track : Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U Some sources - https://www.c…

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EP95: Why does GPT4.5 exist? Claude 3.7 Sonnet Has Arrived & Working with Claude Code Agent 1:45:31

2M ago1:45:31

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Join Simtheory to try GPT-4.5: https://simtheory.ai Dis Track: https://simulationtheory.ai/5714654f-0fbe-496f-8428-20018457c4c7 === CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Reaction to GPT4.5 Live Stream + Release 12:45 - Claude 3.7 Sonnet Release: Reactions and First Week Impressions 45:58 - Claude 3.7 Sonnet Dis Track Test 56:10 - Claude Code First Impressions + Future…

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WNiCF - January 2025 - News 32:12

2M ago32:12

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Send us a text January 2025 FinOps news. Instances/Compute https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/announcing-smaller-machine-types-for-a3-high-vms - The A3 Ultra machine type is available in the following region and zone: St. Ghislain, Belgium, Europe - europe-west1-b https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/compute/first-google-axion-process…

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CCPs Worst Nightmare Unfolding - China’s Destruction Month - Episode #251 1:32:00

2M ago1:32:00

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China is experiencing a MASSIVE boom in intentional destruction of factories and more. It's out of control, and we think we know why. The Hill article - https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5155350-youtube-promoting-pro-china/ Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts Cartoon feat…

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WNiCF - Interview - Cloud FinOps 2025: insights and predictions with Anthony 44:34

2M ago44:34

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Send us a text In this chat, Frank, Stephen, and Anthony share their thoughts on how cloud computing and AI have evolved from 2024 to 2025. They discuss the growth in the GPU market and how views on cloud versus on-premises solutions have changed. They also talk about the quality and performance of AI models and consider the environmental impact of…

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EP94: Does Grok 3 Change Everything? Plus Vibes & Diss Track Comparison 1:30:41

2M ago1:30:41

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai ---- Grok 3 Dis Track (cringe): https://simulationtheory.ai/aff9ba04-ca0e-4572-84f4-687739c7b84b Grok 3 Dis Track written by Sonnet: https://simulationtheory.ai/edaed525-b9b6-473b-a6d6-f9cca9673868 ---- Community: https://thisdayinai.com ---- Chapters: 00:00 - First Impressions of Grok 3 10:00 - Discussion about…

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Chinese People Shocked We Can Read Their Signs - China Embarrassed -Trying to Hide it - Episode #250 2:12:15

3M ago2:12:15

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! If you thought things in China were calming down. You thought wrong... Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show X…

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EP93: GPT-5, Grok 3 & Claude 4? Plus AI Agents Economic Impact & Inevitable Disruption of SaaS 1:42:12

3M ago1:42:12

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai Community: https://thisdayinai.com --- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Anthropic Economic Index & The Impact of AI Agents 18:00 - Hype Vs Reality of Models & Agents 31:33 - Dream Agents & Side Quest Background Tasks 56:60 - How All SaaS Will Be Disrupted by AI 1:21:10 - Sam Altman's GPT-4.5, GPT-5 Roadmap 1:28:50 - Anthropic …

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Are Big YouTubers Being Paid to Shill for China? - Episode #249 2:14:51

3M ago2:14:51

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Use code adv50off at https://factormeals.com/adv50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box! Chongqing China, so many videos with the same script! People are wandering into the streets to be run over on purpose. Why? China's economy is sliding into a hole, and from the experts point of view, will probably never come out of it. Food sa…

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EP92: o3-mini, Deep Research, Gemini 2.0 Flash & Pro + lols 1:46:27

3M ago1:46:27

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai ---- "Don't Cha" Song: https://simulationtheory.ai/cbf4d5e6-82e4-4e84-91e7-3b48cb2744ef Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/track/4Q8dRV45WYfxePE7zi52iL?si=ed094fce41e54c8f Community: https://thisdayinai.com --- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - We're on Spotify! 01:06 - o3-mini release and initial impressions 18:37 - Reasoning m…

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Holy S*** Chinese Streets Exploding Randomly All Over China - DeepSeek Exposed - Episode #248 2:10:40

3M ago2:10:40

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle ofD3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! From the DeepSeek psyop to stupid robot propaganda, to panda scandals, there's so much in this episode. @laowhy86 DeepSeek video …

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EP91: Is Deepseek R1 a Sputnik Moment? Farewell to o1 & Throw Away AI Software 1:25:34

3M ago1:25:34

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai --- LINKS FROM SHOW: - Built to Reason (an o1 Tribute song): https://simulationtheory.ai/3f3ff70d-afef-4372-a9a5-26b22824c383 - Sputnik Moment Song: https://simulationtheory.ai/4317176e-5c0d-49b9-801b-b686113624fd - Episode 91 Notes: https://simulationtheory.ai/b64f40ce-dab8-40b7-89a1-f24d17296f5a CHAPTERS: 00:0…

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WNiCF - December 2024 - News 34:31

3M ago34:31

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Send us a text A little late, but as they say, better late than never. You can provide feedback, ideas, proposals for interviews at send us an email at [email protected] Have a fantastic 2025 and JanuaryBy The FinOps Guys - Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois

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Is China Behind the "Hollywood Fires"? - Episode #247 2:07:15

3M ago2:07:15

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There's an insane amount of fake AI content about the fires in Los Angeles, and it looks like China is spreading them around the internet for its own twisted goals. Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts China Fact Chasers - Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/ChinaFactChase…

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EP90: Consoles of the Future, Deepseek-R1, Gemini-Thinking, Create with Code, Operator & Stargate 1:18:03

3M ago1:18:03

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Join Simtheory and use Create with Code: https://simtheory.ai Community: https://thisdayinai.com ----- VOTING: Code challenge winner: https://simulationtheory.ai/e2875acf-33c3-4a96-97a1-14b8d815a49a BOOM factor on Deepseek: https://simulationtheory.ai/f98a591d-7726-42d3-afaf-53b8c29fa21e ----- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Computer Use, Agents, Collaborators D…

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Rednote - China is Scrambling to Keep Influence over Americans - Episode #246 2:06:00

3M ago2:06:00

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle ofD3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! Laowhy86 TikTok video - https://youtu.be/J3Zbm5NjOjg?si=o0dFK20wKRPDnUgU China is trying to push people to new app in the event o…

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China’s Own Jan 6th - Episode #245 2:02:40

4M ago2:02:40

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Use code adv50off at https://factormeals.com/adv50off to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box! 100,000 people stormed the place. China's societal pressure is at a boiling point. GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! and JOIN TO WATCH THE ROYAL RUMBLE - Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/adv…

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EP89: Nvidia's Agentic Vision, State of AI Agents, o3 Thoughts & Deepseek V3 1:22:26

4M ago1:22:26

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai Community: https://thisdayinai.com ----- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - The next step for agents... 00:45 - NVIDIA's CES Keynote Recap + Agentic Vision 13:33 - State of AI Agents in 2025 24:55 - Thoughts on o3 announcement & it's impact on AI agents 32:44 - Is o3 worth $2,000 per task and 13 minutes? 36:22 - More thoughts of…

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TikTok Ban - We Just Found a Dark Secret with Bytedance - This Changes Everything - Episode #244 2:09:20

4M ago2:09:20

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle ofD3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/adv to get this offer! TikTok is a problem, and this new finding is very damning. Also, China's new fighter jet, Christmas trees in flames across China,…

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Unrest, Revolt and Pure Destruction - The China They Don't Want You to See - Episode #243 2:15:10

4M ago2:15:10

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Go to https://ground.news/SerpentZA to see through media bias and better understand the world. Subscribe through my link for 50% off the unlimited access vantage plan - the best deal of the year! China is not looking good right now GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! and JOIN TO WATCH THE ROYAL RUMBLE - Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show…

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WNiCF - November 2024 - News 40:05

5M ago40:05

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Send us a text In this episode, Frank and SteveO reflect on the year's developments in cloud computing, discussing significant updates from AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud. Thank you to all the listeners!!!By The FinOps Guys - Stephen Old and Frank Contrepois

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DEVASTATING - China Military Drone Attacked It’s Own Olympic Stadium!?! - Episode #242 1:25:40

5M ago1:25:40

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AG1 is offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You’ll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box! So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/ADV to get this offer! China really isn't slowing down with outlandish things happening... every single day... GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! and JOIN TO WA…

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EP88: The Finale: 2024 Best Moments, Future Agents, Gemini 2.0 & OpenAI's 12 Days of Christmas 1:58:15

5M ago1:58:15

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Thanks for listening and all of your support in 2024! ------ Get an AI workspace: https://simtheory.ai Join our community: https://thisdayinai.com ------ 00:00 - "So Chris This Week" flash back 01:35 - OpenAI's 12 days of attention seeking 09:02 - Gemini 2.0 Announcements, Rap Battle & Agents Discussion 39:55 - Gemini Deep Research Feature 50:14 - …

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"RUIN NATION" - Chinese People Are Destroying Everything on Purpose - Episode #241 1:47:40

5M ago1:47:40

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Head to https://factormeals.com/50adv and use code 50adv to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping! "If I can't succeed, no one can" - this attitude is taking over China, and it's not good for anyone. GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! and JOIN TO WATCH THE ROYAL RUMBLE - Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://w…

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EP87: Initial Reactions to OpenAI's o1 & ChatGPT Pro 47:41

5M ago47:41

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o1 Available Soon on Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai Join our community: https://thisdayinai.com ---- Proving why we are the #1 average AI podcast. Apologies for interruptions and audio quality. Back to regular average programming next week. Thanks for listening! ---- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Initial OpenAI o1 Thoughts & Reactions 12:00 - OpenAI o1 System…

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CHINA IN CHAOS - Rampages, Explosions, Collapses - Actually out of Control - Episode #240 1:44:45

5M ago1:44:45

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Every week of November, AG1 will be running a special Black Friday offer for a free gift with your first subscription, in addition to the Welcome Kit with Vitamin D3+K2. So make sure to check out https:// DrinkAG1.com/adv to see what gift you can get this week! China is actually out of control. GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! - Support the show here and …

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China's HYBRID WARFARE - Spy Ship Caught Destroying Vital Undersea Cables? - Episode #239 1:31:20

5M ago1:31:20

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Cables cut, gold discovered, Chinese police station found, and so much more. GET THE HOLIDAY DEAL NOW! - Support the show here and see the Monday Exclusive show Xiaban Hou! - https://www.patreon.com/advpodcasts China Fact Chasers - Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/c/ChinaFactChasers Cartoon feat. Jüri Pootsmann - I Remember U https://sound…

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EP86: CLAUDE WHO? 1:14:19

5M ago1:14:19

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Join Simtheory: https://simtheory.ai ---- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Model Tunes (GPT-4o Better at Creative Writing) & Google Gemini Experimental Releases 03:13 - AI Rap Battle: How Creative is the New GPT-4o Vs Claude Sonnet 3.5? And is Suno v4 any good? 13:38 - The "fine tune" and "test time compute" trend & Gemini EXP-1121 release 30:32 - DeepSeek-R1-Lit…

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WNiCF - October 2024 - News 36:53

5M ago36:53

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Send us a text In this episode, Frank and SteveO discuss the latest updates in cloud computing for October 2024, covering significant announcements from AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud. They delve into new features, pricing changes, and innovations in cost management, data storage, and AI integration. The conversation also highlights insights from the…

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