Best Vert Run Podcasts (2025)

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Beyond the Cutoff Russell Strattons Resilience at WSER 50:00

2d ago50:00

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Join hosts Coach Loretta and Coach Lindsay from Ornery Mule Coaching as they welcome athlete Russell Stratton to the Dirt Podcast. In this candid conversation, Russell shares his experience at the Western States Endurance Run, where he faced the tough reality of a DNF (Did Not Finish) after missing the cutoff at the Last Chance aid station. Togethe…

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172. Ken Seals | Content, Community & Change: Navigating Trail Running Media with The Ultra Minute 1:05:39

4d ago1:05:39

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Ken Seals is a trail runner, storyteller, and the creator of The Ultra Minute, a newsletter and media platform that covers the evolving world of trail and ultra running. I was a guest on Ken’s platform to dive deep into the state of running media today—and we had such a rich conversation that it felt like a necessary one to share. We talked about h…

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265. Western States 100 Failure, Being Human in Public, and Growing the Hard Way 1:36:28

6d ago1:36:28

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Western States 100 ended in a DNF at mile 62. It’s partially the normal story of a race that didn’t go to plan due to simple errors with hydration leading to a cascade of physical issues. But it’s also a lot more complex than that, like life is always more complex than the simple narratives. This episode tries to share the complex story while it’s …

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Kettles Grit and Getting Through It Lily Medinas Midwest Super Slam Journey 42:48

12d ago42:48

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On this episode of The Dirt with Coach Loretta and Coach Lindsay, we’re joined once again by Ornery Mule Coaching athlete Lily Medina for a raw and inspiring recap of her second race in the Midwest Super Slam: the Kettle Moraine 100. Lily opens up about the tough patches she faced on the trail and how she pushed through the lows to make it to the f…

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264. Western States 100 Goals, Fears, and Dreams! Plus a Sports Science Study of the Decade! 1:16:18

13d ago1:16:18

1:16:18

We're here! It's race week for the Western States 100. This episode talks through how we're feeling before the moonshot. Hopefully there are helpful similarities to all of the big, scary things in your lives! We also break down a new study that feels like the Manhattan Project of sports science, testing "replicability" in the field. You know it's s…

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171. Katie Asmuth | Identity, Resilience & Racing: A Journey Through Western States and Beyond 1:14:03

20d ago1:14:03

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In this episode, Katie Asmuth—elite ultrarunner and Western States finisher—joins Francesco to reflect on the emotional highs and lows of racing, recovery, and personal growth in the sport of trail running. They explore Katie’s connection to Western States, the identity challenges athletes face, and how she balances motherhood with high-level train…

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263. "No Secrets" Q+A on Western States 100 Strategy, Climbing Faster, Passive Heat v. More Training, Weight Vest Use, Life Meaning, and More! 1:48:38

20d ago1:48:38

1:48:38

Our favorite episodes involve answering listener questions in a "no secrets" style. That means we might be right, we might be wrong, but we'll always be honest (and hairy!). We started with a game theory analysis on how we think this year's Western States 100 will play out. This is the type of conversation that athletes have before every race, but …

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Midwest Super Slam Madness with Ornery Mule Coaching athlete Lily Medina 48:59

24d ago48:59

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This episode of The Dirt, Coaches Loretta and Lindsay sit down with special guest and Ornery Mule Coaching athlete Lily Medina, who’s deep into one of the craziest ultra running challenges out there—the Midwest Super Slam of Ultras. That’s five 100-mile races—Mohican, Kettle Moraine, Burning River, Hallucination, and Indiana Trail—crammed into just…

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262. Western States Pressure, Passive Heat and Hemoglobin, Using Downhills to Build Strength, New OTQ Standards, and Fueling To Take A Hit! 1:41:40

27d ago1:41:40

1:41:40

This episode was such a fun mix of science, emotions, and hot tubs that could cook a turkey! We started with some thoughts on Western States, less than 3 weeks out from the race. Does embracing the stage also mean embracing social media posts telling you that you aren’t being picked to perform well? Our argument channeling Tyrese Halliburton of the…

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170. Kameron Harder | Strength Training for Runners: Principles, Performance & Integration 53:44

1M ago53:44

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In this episode, Kameron Harder—physical therapist and strength training expert—joins Francesco to dive into the world of strength training for runners. They explore why strength training is essential for trail and road runners, how to structure it efficiently, and common mistakes to avoid. Kameron also shares insights from his work in remote physi…

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Running on Passion 35:44

1M ago35:44

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Join Coach Loretta and Coach Lindsay as they share their latest race experiences and upcoming challenges. Lindsay reflects on her adventures and Cruel Jewel and upcoming races San Diego Rock and Roll Marathon and the Jackal -5 back to back marathons. Loretta discusses her time volunteering at the Love For Lily Charity event at Colfax Marathon and p…

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261. Kilian's Western States Training Video, Jim Walmsley Isn't Racing (!), Weird Broccoli Sprouts Science, and A New Bicarb Gel! 1:41:19

1M ago1:41:19

1:41:19

We gulped down some pungent juice before recording this amazing episode! The main topics were the two big pieces of news: Jim Walsmley won't be racing Western States, and Kilian Jornet is making training videos now. Jim is the GOAT and we gave him an 85% chance of winning just last week. He's the supermassive black hole at the center of the Western…

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260. Why High Carb Fueling May Improve Body Composition, Controversial News, Weight Vest Warm-Ups, and Workout Intensity! 1:47:03

1M ago1:47:03

1:47:03

This episode was a total joy with toe warmers in all the right places (and some of the wrong ones)! The main scientific topic was a new study on how high carb fueling may improve heat adaptation. We broaden that out to a question from a listener on the old "calories-in, calories-out" framework, and why that doesn't apply to athletes from evolutiona…

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Porta Potty Panic Other Trail Tales 36:50

2M ago36:50

36:50

From porta potty panic to legendary race shorts, Coaches Lindsay and Loretta share listener-submitted stories that prove every trail runner has a hilarious tale. Laugh with us — because if it’s not weird, it’s not ultrarunning. Whether you're a seasoned ultrarunner or just here for the chaos, this one’s for you. Because if you can’t laugh at yourse…

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259. High Carb on a Budget, Western States Uncertainty, How Ketones Might Enhance Recovery, Uphill Treadmill Guidelines, and "Depletion" Runs! 1:46:51

2M ago1:46:51

1:46:51

We had a ridiculous amount of fun recording this episode! The main science topic was on a new pre-print study on post-exercise ketones, showing higher carb storage and lower glycemia in athletes taking them. Is it possible that high carb has a special interaction with post-exercise ketones that might be at the heart of recent performances? It's unc…

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169. Max & Moi | Vert.run Co-founders in the future of trail running coaching, AI coaching and the release of Vert Pro 58:24

2M ago58:24

58:24

🎙️ In this episode, Max & Moi sit down with Francesco to dive into the state of running and trail running coaching apps—and introduce Vert Pro, the first fully automated coach built specifically for trail runners of all levels. They break down how Vert Pro works, why it’s shaking up the coaching game, and how Vert.run is leading the way in innovati…

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258. Quad Rock 50 Mile Record and the Western States Moonshot! High Carb (150 g/hr), Big Hydration (1 L/hr), and Heat Breakthrough 1:43:34

2M ago1:43:34

1:43:34

Endurance sports are in the midst of a revolution that will change everything about what we think humans can do. This week at the Quad Rock 50 Mile, we felt it firsthand. David set a 14-minute course record at this classic, steep Colorado race. We break it all down, "no secrets" style. Topics: high-carb fueling, big hydration totals, why heat train…

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257. "No Secrets" Q+A on Extreme Carb Totals (200 g/hr!), Minimum Dose Heat Training, Sodium Intake, Speed for Ultras, and Hydration Sensors! 1:44:53

2M ago1:44:53

1:44:53

Our favorite episodes are these Q+As where we answer listener questions on all of the hottest topics! It's called a "No Secrets" Q+A because we try to take you behind the curtain, speculating about ideas that might not be talked about in public very often. Let's get spicy! The main topic was Cam Wurf's reported 200 grams of carbs per hour at Ironma…

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‘Big in Japan’, with Marcel Höche

2M ago

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Marcel Höche is back on the show and he’s calling in from Japan with an update on his never ending racing season. We talk what races he’s ran in between finishing is masters degree and he gives us an behind the scenes look at his exciting new business venture: Sunn Nutrition, a brand new high carb drink mix. Links Marcel on Singletrack Marcel Höche…

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331: 'Big in Japan', with Marcel Höche 1:19:03

2M ago1:19:03

1:19:03

Marcel Höche is back on the show and he’s calling in from Japan with an update on his never ending racing season. We talk what races he’s ran in between finishing is masters degree and he gives us an behind the scenes look at his exciting new business venture: Sunn Nutrition, a brand new high carb drink mix. LINKS Marcel on Singletrack Marcel Höche…

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256. High Carb Domination, Steep Races and Vert, Heat Suit Guidelines, Increasing Stride Power, and Kilian’s Western States Prep! 1:33:47

2M ago1:33:47

1:33:47

We put on our space cowboy outfits for this great episode! The main topic centered on the almost-ubiquitous use of higher carb intakes in recent races, from the Canyons 100k to the Boston Marathon to the cycling classics. What once seemed optional is now mandatory. Where do the next breakthroughs come from? We outline some ideas to try to catch the…

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Fail Fast: Ultrarunning & Problem-Solving 44:26

2M ago44:26

44:26

Ultrarunning teaches us how to adapt, stay calm in chaos, and turn failure into fuel. In this episode, Loretta and Lindsay share real race stories, quick-thinking strategies, and how to carry lessons from the trail into everyday life. Whether you're chasing a finish line or navigating challenges off the trail, this one's for you. Listen now to embr…

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‘Where Did (and Does) the Livestream Go?’, with Jeff Pelletier

2M ago

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This weekend is a massive weekend of trail racing with several high profile events all over the world. The Canyons Endurance Runs by UTMB is happening in Auburn, California, and unlike last year, there’s no livestream. I sit down with Jeff Pelletier, king of trail storytelling to discuss the history and the challenges for current version of livestr…

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330: ‘Where Did (and Does) the Livestream Go?’, with Jeff Pelletier 56:44

2M ago56:44

56:44

This weekend is a massive weekend of trail racing with several high profile events all over the world. The Canyons Endurance Runs by UTMB is happening in Auburn, California, and unlike last year, there’s no livestream. I sit down with Jeff Pelletier, king of trail storytelling to discuss the history and the challenges for current version of livestr…

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168. Rod Farvard | Every dog has its day. Reflections, hopes and expectations ahead of the 2025 Canyons 100k 1:07:12

2M ago1:07:12

1:07:12

I had the pleasure and privilege to share three weeks of altitude training in Mammoth Lakes with Rod, seeing his hard work, commitment and self believe, learning a lot from him. It’s been roughly a year since Rod Farvard's name really came into the spotlight. Rod definitely had a breakthrough season in 2024, with the win at Canyons and the second p…

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255. The Shocking Shoe Study That Changes Everything, Boston Marathon Reactions, Creatine for Endurance, and Resting Heart Rate! 1:43:46

3M ago1:43:46

1:43:46

Our minds were blown by the Boston Marathon right before recording this great episode! The main topic was a new study on the Puma R3 super-shoe, conducted by a top researcher. It showed a shocking 3% improvement in running economy relative to the previous generation of super-shoes, with a universally positive response among study participants. We d…

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Trail Runner University - Training Plans Unpacked Speed - Vert Couch to 5k and mileage challenge 13:05

3M ago13:05

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In this episode of *The Dirt Podcast*, Coaches Loretta and Lindsay explore essential training programs tailored for Trail Runner University. Whether you’re aiming to improve your speed, conquer vertical climbs, or embark on your first 5K, this episode has something for everyone. We’ll break down: **Speed Development**: Discover our 10-week program …

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254. How Heat Training is Changing the Game, Protein Needs for Endurance, VO2 Max Numbers, Workout Success v. "Failure," and What Comes After Disaster! 1:40:10

3M ago1:40:10

1:40:10

We put sensors in all the right places before this HOT episode! The main discussion was on the emerging science of heat training, centered around a 2025 study that showed 3 x weekly sessions could sustain hematological adaptations from an altitude camp. Heat training is no longer just about being ready for hot weather. It's about helping our blood …

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Mid to Back Pack: Embracing the Journey of Every Runner 46:53

3M ago46:53

46:53

In this episode of **The Dirt**, Coaches Loretta and Lindsay dive into the unique journey of mid to back of the pack runners. They explore the challenges faced during training, from pacing to mental hurdles, and share practical tips to enhance your running experience. What You'll Learn: - **Understanding Your Journey**: Discover the common obstacle…

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167. The Biggest Races to Watch in 2025: What’s Coming in Trail Running 1:02:38

3M ago1:02:38

1:02:38

What’s Coming in Trail Running in 2025? Clearly, 2025 is shaping up to be an exciting year for trail running. In this episode we examine the key races and their storylines, athletes to watch, new trends and predictions, strategies and advancements in performance. Guest: Max Keith For those of you who want to give training with Vert.run a try, you c…

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253. New Science on Protein Needs, Unbreakable 2, VO2 Max Estimates, Carb Loads, Torpedo Bats, and Cross Training Intensity! 1:38:45

3M ago1:38:45

1:38:45

We put on our finest white spandex for this amazing episode! The main topic was a new review study on protein needs for endurance athletes. The authors used a cool method of isotope labeling to argue that endurance athletes need more protein than traditional recommendations. The nutrition revolution is not just about carbs! And this one was full of…

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Running Stronger with Age Tips for Longevity in the Sport 51:35

3M ago51:35

51:35

In this episode of "The Dirt," hosts Coach Loretta and Coach Lindsay dive into the critical topic of aging athletes. Join us as we explore the physiological changes that come with age, effective injury prevention strategies, and the importance of nutrition for maintaining performance. We’ll also discuss how to adjust your training to accommodate th…

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252. How Running May Impact The Brain, Plus Q+A on Body Image, Heat Suits, Sweat Testing, and Nose Breathing! 1:28:32

3M ago1:28:32

1:28:32

We pondered the genetics of smelling ants before this great episode! The main topic was a new study that found the brain may use myelin lipids for fuel during low glucose conditions like marathons. This could have massive implications for how we think about fueling and fatigue resistance, including for cognitive function. Our big theory: fueling is…

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DNF Growth Recovery Mindset 55:50

3M ago55:50

55:50

Join hosts Coach Loretta and Coach Lindsay on The Dirt Coaches Edition as we explore the DNF (Do Not Finish) recovery mindset. Discover how to process your feelings and grief, tackle common DNF reasons and implement effective strategies moving forward. *In this episode you'll learn: *How to embrace a growth mindset *Practical do's for training, fue…

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166. Florian Reiter | Running is for everyone. Reasons why we run, vulnerability and comparison, growth and success 1:16:17

3M ago1:16:17

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Florian Reiter is a runner, coach, podcaster and physiotherapist from Austria. I was a guest in Florian’s podcast Running Free and it was a great chance to touch on many relevant topics related to running, so we thought it would be fun to do a follow-up episode, and here we are. We talked about the reasons why we run, how these reasons change over …

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251. Big Alta 50k and The Story Athletes Rarely Tell, Plus Q+A on Kilian to Western States, Bike v. Treadmill, and Sauna v. Hot Tub! 1:43:11

3M ago1:43:11

1:43:11

We took off our armor for this incredible episode! The main discussion might have been one of our most important (and fun) ever: the Big Alta 50k DNF, failure, and what it truly means to go for it. David raced Big Alta because it was somewhere that he couldn't hide. We needed to gather data about what happened at the very edge of human capabilities…

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250. The Mystery of Fatigue Resistance, Race Week Feelings, Episode 250 Reflections, Outside Mag Revolt, and Fun Sponsorship News! 1:24:44

4M ago1:24:44

1:24:44

We celebrated the 250th recording for this great episode! The main topic was a new study on fatigue resistance. How do you actually improve performance after multiple hours of work? It’s the greatest mystery of endurance, and whoever solves it will have a big advantage. We think that we have some answers for training, fueling, and the nervous syste…

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165. Josh Wade | Transgrancanaria Classic podium finish, strategy and preparation 57:42

4M ago57:42

57:42

Josh Wade is a professional trail runner for The North Face coming from England. Josh took third at the Transgrancanaria Classic this year, running an incredible race and surpassing all his expectations. In this episode we go into the details of Josh’s race, from how he managed his strategy to how he handled the preparation leading up to it. We als…

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249. Heavy Lifting and Fatigue Resistance, Carbs After Exercise, Cramp Prevention, Cadence, and Health in Training! 1:42:50

4M ago1:42:50

1:42:50

We lifted some styrofoam plates painted like metal before this great episode! The main topic was a new study showing improved fatigue resistance for athletes doing heavy lifting twice per week. Yes... we regret to inform you that we think you should probably have a squat rack nearby. Prepare your butts. We also answered a question on carb intake af…

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248. Zone 2 and Why It Matters, Heat Training Questions, Pre-Workout Carbs, and Trail Supershoe Follow-Up! 1:34:46

4M ago1:34:46

1:34:46

We brought some very sore legs into this great episode! The main topic was a new study on "Zone 2 Training," which gathered a panel of experts to review what Zone 2 means and why it matters. Our theory is that Zone 2 training is interacting with high-carb fueling to drive some of the performance revolution! We also talked about a new study on heat …

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‘Through the Lows to the Highs’, with Michael Eaton

4M ago

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Michael Eaton, Brooks Trailhead store manager and host of the Trail Running Film Festival in Seattle joins Singletrack to share his person running journey from running cross country in his youth back in Kentucky to this year’s training block for OCC in Chamonix. We chat about the challenges of life, the highs and lows that come with that, and the p…

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329: ‘Through the Lows to the Highs’, with Michael Eaton 56:20

4M ago56:20

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Michael Eaton, Brooks Trailhead store manager and host of the Trail Running Film Festival in Seattle joins me to share his person running journey from cross country in his youth back in Kentucky to this year’s training block for OCC in Chamonix. We chat about the challenges of life, the highs and lows that come with that, and the peace that can be …

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164 | Personal updates, racing plans and what we're looking forward to ahead of the 2025 season - with Max Keith 56:41

4M ago56:41

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Today I’m sitting down with Max Keith to share some reflections as we approach the core of the 2025 season, which kicked off in big fashion with races like Black Canyon, Tarawera and Transgrancanaria. Athletes are racing as fast as ever, races are getting more competitive, brands are investing more and more, participation in trail races is increasi…

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247. High-Carb and Health, Trail Supershoe Study, Racing Frequency, Pros and Cons of Stretching, and Building Toughness! 1:40:18

4M ago1:40:18

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We put on some supershoes for an extra boost for this great episode! A main topic was a question we get a lot: whether high-carb fueling during training is healthy in a broader sense. We not only think it's healthy, we think that the question is best asked another way: how much healthier is fueling your training than the alternative of underfueling…

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