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The Thoughtful Teacher podcast shares the stories of educators who have implemented innovative or creative solutions within their space. These stories and commentaries empower educators by sharing a world of ideas that can enhance pedagogical choices and decrease the isolation many teachers experience. We introduce listeners to school-based educators, thinkers, and researchers who have powerful ideas and innovations that makes teaching and learning more meaningful for your students. We also ...
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Keeping It Real Estate

Mike Roeder & Dan Brisse

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The Keeping it Real-Estate Podcast provides educational content for real estate investors, both new and experienced. Mike Roeder and Dan Brisse interview real estate professionals to gain valuable insights into multifamily investing.
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Join host Dan Brisse as he welcomes Vince Shorb, a leading financial literacy advocate, to Keeping It Real Estate. Vince shares his fascinating journey, from his early ventures into real estate investing in his teens to founding the National Financial Educators Council. Driven by a passion to empower individuals with essential financial knowledge, …
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Every interaction with every student is important, but how we structure (and yes, even plan) our conversations have an enormous impact on how students learn and achieve. In this conversation Erika Bare and Tiffany Burns, authors of Connecting Through Conversation: A Playbook for Talking with Students, share their strategies building connecting rela…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Daniel Fink welcomes back Neal Bawa, the "Mad Scientist of Multifamily," for a timely deep dive into how tariffs, inflation, and shifting market cycles are impacting real estate today. Neal breaks down why 2027 could be a golden window for value-add investors, why Class A properties are unusually attractiv…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Dan sits down with Brandon Hall, CPA and founder of Hall CPA PLLC, to break down some of the most powerful and often misunderstood tax strategies in real estate investing. Brandon shares his insights on everything from bonus depreciation to the real estate professional status designation, helping listeners…
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English teacher and author Matthew R. Kay shares how to build the classroom ecosystem for having meaningful conversations in the classroom, especially conversations about race in America. In this conversation he shares several interventions he uses and discusses how to craft great questions that lead to quality conversations in the classroom.…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, we welcome Michael Beckerman, CEO of CREtech, to discuss the dynamic intersection of technology and real estate. Michael recounts his transformative journey from a career in public relations to spearheading innovation at the helm of the largest conference company in the real estate tech and sustainability …
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Matthew Hawn used to be a social studies teacher until he was fired. He had his day in court and won, but instead of being reinstated the school board appealed. In this conversation, Matt shares his story, his thoughts on teaching controversial issues and how the community and particularly his former students have reacted. Despite many setbacks, he…
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Join us for a profound discussion with Dr. Peter Linneman, whose 45-year career blends scholarly rigor and practical business insight, garnering accolades like the PREA's prestigious Graaskamp Award and inclusion in "100 Most Powerful People in New York Real Estate." His experience, underpinned by academic distinction at the University of Chicago a…
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Join us in this enlightening episode as Beth Azor, a titan of the commercial real estate industry, shares her innovative strategies for revitalizing shopping centers. With extensive experience in Florida's competitive market, Beth reveals how her hands-on approach has transformed the retail real estate landscape. In the second part of the discussio…
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Have you ever noticed that tree-lined streets and neighborhoods with lots of trees seem appealing? Have you ever thought that your school or the area around campus could use more trees? Well, it turns out that trees do more than just make things look nice: having a lot of trees on campus and near a school actually improves achievement (yes for real…
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Ben Joergens is a nationally recognized financial literacy advocate, community leader, and the Executive Director of Financial Empowerment at Old National Bank. With a career dedicated to bridging the financial knowledge gap, Ben has spearheaded initiatives that empower individuals and families to achieve long-term financial stability and success. …
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Join Dan Brisse as he dives deep into Jim Collins' influential book, 'Good to Great,' unraveling the secrets that transform good companies into great ones. In this episode, Dan explores the crucial role of Level 5 leadership, emphasizing the impact of leaders who attribute success to their teams and take personal responsibility for setbacks. Discov…
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In this transformative episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Dan Brisse delves into the powerful 'Four Vs'—Visualize, Vocalize, Vote, and Vicinity. These guiding principles have transitioned him from being a high school dreamer to a professional athlete and a successful real estate investor. Dan shares how adjusting your identity according to these pr…
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Join us on this exciting episode of Keeping It Real Estate, where Dan Brisse dives into the dynamic world of real estate with Athena Brownson, a former competitive skier turned top Denver realtor. Discover Athena's journey from the ski slopes to luxury real estate, highlighting her expertise in creating balanced living spaces and her unique approac…
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Most teachers know that the physical space in schools and classrooms matter for student learning, health and wellness. But often teachers are using guesswork when they make decisions about physical spaces that are conducive to learning. Design consultant Bill Browning and architect Jim Determan are practitioners and researchers on biophilic design.…
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Join Mike Roeder in this episode of "Keeping It Real Estate" as he shares key insights from the NMHC Annual Conference. He dives into the latest trends and investment strategies for the multifamily industry in 2025, exploring shifts in the debt market and rental dynamics. Mike offers practical advice on navigating the evolving market landscape, hig…
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In this conversation, self-described "bad student" Jerry Kolber shares insights from his work producing kid friendly media and how good storytelling can help teachers connect with students. Jerry is co-founder of Atomic Entertainment which produces kid-friendly programming like Brain Games and the podcast Who Smarted.…
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Join Mike Roeder on 'Keeping It Real Estate' as we dive into the multifamily market outlook for 2025. In this episode, Mike explores the critical shifts in vacancy rates, rent growth, and the impact of fluctuating supply and demand across the market. Discover actionable insights on where the multifamily sector is headed and how investors can effect…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, we continue our 'Best of 2024' series with a look back at some of the most impactful discussions of the year. Tune in to hear from industry leaders like Eric Decker, a former NFL player turned real estate investor, who shares how his sports career has shaped his investment strategies. We also revisit our c…
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In this episode of "Keeping It Real Estate," we kick off our 'Best of 2024' series with a look back at the most influential discussions of the year. Tune in to hear from industry leaders like Nick Fluellen, who detailed the intricacies of the DFW multifamily market, and Neal Bawa, known as the 'Mad Scientist of Multifamily,' who provided a data-dri…
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Dr. Maggie Brodkerick shares her past experiences as a music teacher and her current work as a professor to tell how teachers can create a culture of caring in their classrooms-while also maintaining academic rigor. Many students are sometimes not connected to teachers or other students for a variety of reasons, but teachers can integrate the arts …
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In this crucial episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Dan Brisse uncovers the escalating issues of fraud within real estate investments, focusing on both leasing and investment scams. He discusses the latest trends and common tactics fraudsters use, such as falsifying documents and rushing lease approvals, and provides actionable advice on how to prot…
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Craig is a FinTech leader with deep expertise in integrating technology into education and offering practical insights for those looking to enter the FinTech industry. With a career that began in the financial trenches of the steel industry and evolved into founding groundbreaking platforms like SPENDiD and MyBudgetReport, Craig has consistently ch…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Mike Roeder explores the essential technique of secret shopping in multifamily investing. He explains how to select the right comps, evaluate property upgrades, and the importance of assessing both competitors and your own properties to optimize business strategies. Dive into practical examples and expert …
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Sonja Strzoda brings over 25 years of expertise in global asset management and financial services, working with Boards, senior executives, and major investors throughout her impressive career. She currently serves on the Boards of WISE (Women Investing in Security and Education), NuVision Federal Credit Union, Knomee, and the California Financial E…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Mike Roeder delves into the critical changes in multifamily underwriting strategies due to evolving economic conditions. He explains the necessity for increased CapEx budgets and the strategic shift towards fixed-rate debt to mitigate volatility in interest rates. Further, Mike emphasizes the importance of…
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Join Dan Brisse as he explores the multifaceted world of business with Travis Hasse, a seasoned entrepreneur and executive with a diverse portfolio spanning the spirits, logistics, and real estate industries. With his strong entrepreneurial spirit and expertise in strategic planning, Travis has driven dynamic growth strategies and positioned his te…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, host Mike Roeder delves into triple net lease investing, highlighting its appeal for stable, predictable returns. Mike explains the fundamentals, benefits, and tax advantages of NNN leases, using the recent acquisition of a Mr. Car Wash property in Sartell, Minnesota as a case study. Whether you're an expe…
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While still a teenager, Sydney Guerette founded a nonprofit where youth run the show solving problems within their communities and promoting mental health. In this conversation Sydney and Scott Lee discuss how she got started on this journey and how educators and caring adults can support youth who are making a difference in their communities.…
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Mark J. Cantrell, founding partner and shareholder of Cantrell McCulloch, Inc. (CMI), began his real estate career in 1984 with Marcus & Millichap, quickly becoming one of the company’s top earners. From 1990 to 1996, he was the leading producer in the company’s Texas offices. In 1997, Mark and his brother Tim founded The Cantrell Company (TCC), fo…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, host Dan Brisse dives deep into the world of multifamily real estate investing, uncovering its unique advantages as a hedge against economic fluctuations and a proven strategy for generating substantial passive income. Dan unpacks the impact of market cycles on property values, emphasizing the critical rol…
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Dylan Steman is a Senior Associate at Northmarq's Minneapolis office, specializing in sourcing and transacting multifamily investment sales throughout the Twin Cities and greater Minnesota. Dylan joined Northmarq in 2023 after spending three years with MRG Realty Partners, where he was recognized as the brokerage's top producer in multifamily inves…
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Amy Richter founder of Music Workshop shares how music education can be transformative experience for students. In this conversation, Amy shares that funding cuts at her children's school meant no more music education. She decided to take action and find a solution by founding the non-profit Music Workshop. Now Music Workshop is available to 6 mill…
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Jakob Andersen is an Executive Managing Director in Newmark's Multifamily Capital Markets division in Dallas, Texas. He joined Newmark in 2012, partnering in the Private Client Services division. Before this, he served as the Director of Real Estate at Archangel Capital Partners, a local senior living developer. His expertise in multifamily markets…
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I’m excited to introduce this limited series featuring leaders in personal finance, including educators, coaches, fintech innovators, and content creators, all advancing financial wellness. We’ll explore how to scale financial initiatives, gain exposure, and address the business side of financial education. If you're passionate about improving fina…
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Bola Sokunbi, founder of Clever Girl Finance, is a 5x bestselling author, speaker, and leader of one of the largest personal finance media and education platforms for women in the U.S. As a Certified Financial Education Instructor and finance expert, Bola provides unparalleled insight into crafting high-quality content that engages and builds thriv…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, Dan Brisse sits down with Tim Gertz, CPA, Tax Partner, and Wealth Strategist at Provision, to dive deep into the essential year-end tax strategies every real estate investor needs to know. Tim shares expert insights on proactive tax planning, maximizing capital gains efficiency, and leveraging bonus deprec…
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Ellis Cropper is a leading advocate and educator in the elementary school financial literacy space. Retired Army Major Cropper, a Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC®) and Certified in Long-Term Care (CLTC®), has been a financial professional with New York Life since 2018. As an Massachusetts Financial Educators Council Advisory Board Member, he i…
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In this episode of Keeping It Real Estate, host Dan Brisse explores the 18-year U.S. real estate cycle, a critical framework for investors seeking to make informed decisions. Based on economist Homer Hoyt’s research, Dan breaks down the four key phases—recovery, expansion, peak, and recession—and discusses where we currently stand in this historic …
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Bobby P. Kinzer is the President of the Literacy Institute for Financial Enrichment, Inc. (LIFE) and a Certified Financial Education Instructor dedicated to teaching financial literacy and economic empowerment to youths, adults, and senior citizens. With nearly 31 years of service at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Robert brings a…
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Marc is known for his listening and language mastery, which is why his clients regard him as a committed, trusted ally. Prior to founding a successful individual coaching practice, he managed a startup sales training and coaching company. At Ontocore Marc helps clients achieve remarkable results, including more than doubling top-line revenue, acqui…
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This episode features a conversation with Vince Shorb, CEO of the National Financial Educators Council. In this wide-ranging conversation we discuss the problems many K-12 educators face in developing a quality personal finance program at all grade levels and Vince shares his ideas for improving outcomes and implementing serious reform initiatives.…
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Evelyn Magley is a history-making visionary, philanthropist, and the first woman to own a professional men’s sports league in the United States. As the owner and CEO of The Basketball League (TBL), she leads an organization that goes beyond professional basketball to provide affordable family entertainment, support local communities, and empower pl…
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In this episode, Dan Brisse breaks down the complex world of Treasury yields and their crucial impact on real estate investing. We'll dive into 2024's market volatility, explore key economic reports like jobs data, CPI, and GDP, and examine how global events drive shifts in the debt market. Whether you’re a seasoned investor or new to the game, Dan…
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Whether you're a seasoned investor or new to multifamily syndications, it's crucial to partner with a trustworthy and capable general partner. In this episode, Dan and Mike dive into the key criteria for selecting the best general partnership team to maximize your investment success. Keeping it Real Estate is brought to you by Granite Towers Equity…
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Education researcher and advocate Dr. Nancy E. Bailey shares why educators should be concerned about literacy programs that claim to be based on the "Science of Reading". While there is no consensus on what the term "Science of Reading" means, many reading programs may only meet the literacy needs of some students. In this conversation we discuss w…
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In today’s episode, Dan Brisse dives deep into the key leadership principles you need to create your desired outcomes, especially as you navigate the unique challenges in today’s economy. Drawing on over a decade of real estate experience, Dan shares actionable insights that apply not just to real estate investing but to any arena of life. Whether …
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Matt Hince brings over 20 years of leadership experience from his time in the Air Force, specializing in cyber mission teams. As a training supervisor, he has played a pivotal role in developing the next generation of cyber professionals. Recognized for his expertise in leading red team drills and conducting tabletop exercises, Matt has provided cr…
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In this episode of the Keeping It Real Estate Show, co-host Mike Roeder breaks down the latest on CMBS delinquencies and the surge in commercial real estate foreclosures. With delinquency rates rising over 5% and foreclosures rising to levels not seen in nearly a decade, Mike explores the key drivers behind this trend, including high interest rates…
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