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ULTRA ORTHODOX: The Unexpected Price of Leaving with 10 Children

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After decades of suffering in silence and submission in the Hasidic community with 10 children, Beatrice carefully plotted her escape. With some of her children already adults, she snuck out with the youngest 4 who were still very young. The community and older children immediately turned on her and tried to take the youngest kids away in court. After years of custody battles, she kept access to her kids, but the court ordered one son stay in a Hasidic school which gave him no secular education. Beatrice sued the NYC for not regulating the religious Hasidic schools and won! This is how she deconstructed her ideology.

Click here to watch on YouTube

Watch pt 1 here: https://youtu.be/LGXNrG7kIec?si=fnWrmXDKdLKSy3ZF

Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities

Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/

Rights and Religion Forum https://rarforum.org/

Marlene Winell Journey Free- Recover From Toxic Religions https://www.journeyfree.org/

Find and support Beatrice!

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bweber

Website: https://beatriceweber.com/about/

We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page

Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

Venmo @sheliseann

Find us on Social media!

Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

Host Instagram @sheliseann

Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

Twitter @cultstocon

**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:47 Part 1 recap

00:05:33 Getting the court system involved for protection from her ex-husband and even chiIdren

00:10:04 The difficulties of having to leave some chiIdren behind

00:11:31 Beatrice makes a big mistake in court

00:16:21 How Chavie's case impacted others and how Beatrice regained custody

00:19:19 Beatrice can't ignore the corruption any longer and decides to heal from it

00:20:50 It's never really "just hair"

00:21:33 The continuous journey of healing

00:22:57 Tackling the lack of education in the Hasidic community

00:24:27 Discrepancies in what the courts are saying about Beatrice's case

00:25:33 The school refuses to accept Beatrice's son again

00:27:38 How Beatrice's case changed the school system

00:29:58 Beatrice's children's varying reactions to their mother not just leaving the community, but also making large scale change

00:31:35 Has Beatrice ever talked to her older chiIdren about what happened?

00:33:20 Why it's sometimes easier for people stay in their oppressive communities

00:35:21 What made Beatrice leave the Hasidic community altogether?

00:38:22 TW: ED

00:40:30 How others who have left high demand religions helped Beatrice heal

00:45:15 How people in the Hasidic community use Beatrice's story to perpetuate harmful ideologies

00:46:39 Things Beatrice misses from being in the community

00:50:05 Losing your community for your freedom

00:52:22 What makes Beatrice feel fulfilled?

00:54:32 Huffington Post article sneak peek

00:58:38 Exploring yourself as you are, not as someone has told you to be

01:01:20 Resources for leaving high demand religious groups

01:05:00 Linda, listen

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After decades of suffering in silence and submission in the Hasidic community with 10 children, Beatrice carefully plotted her escape. With some of her children already adults, she snuck out with the youngest 4 who were still very young. The community and older children immediately turned on her and tried to take the youngest kids away in court. After years of custody battles, she kept access to her kids, but the court ordered one son stay in a Hasidic school which gave him no secular education. Beatrice sued the NYC for not regulating the religious Hasidic schools and won! This is how she deconstructed her ideology.

Click here to watch on YouTube

Watch pt 1 here: https://youtu.be/LGXNrG7kIec?si=fnWrmXDKdLKSy3ZF

Resources for help leaving Orthodox communities

Footsteps https://www.footstepsorg.org/

Rights and Religion Forum https://rarforum.org/

Marlene Winell Journey Free- Recover From Toxic Religions https://www.journeyfree.org/

Find and support Beatrice!

Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bweber

Website: https://beatriceweber.com/about/

We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page

Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!

Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.

Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!

Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness

Venmo @sheliseann

Find us on Social media!

Instagram @cultstoconsciousness

Host Instagram @sheliseann

Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_

TikTok @cults.to.consciousness

Twitter @cultstocon

**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**

Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:03:47 Part 1 recap

00:05:33 Getting the court system involved for protection from her ex-husband and even chiIdren

00:10:04 The difficulties of having to leave some chiIdren behind

00:11:31 Beatrice makes a big mistake in court

00:16:21 How Chavie's case impacted others and how Beatrice regained custody

00:19:19 Beatrice can't ignore the corruption any longer and decides to heal from it

00:20:50 It's never really "just hair"

00:21:33 The continuous journey of healing

00:22:57 Tackling the lack of education in the Hasidic community

00:24:27 Discrepancies in what the courts are saying about Beatrice's case

00:25:33 The school refuses to accept Beatrice's son again

00:27:38 How Beatrice's case changed the school system

00:29:58 Beatrice's children's varying reactions to their mother not just leaving the community, but also making large scale change

00:31:35 Has Beatrice ever talked to her older chiIdren about what happened?

00:33:20 Why it's sometimes easier for people stay in their oppressive communities

00:35:21 What made Beatrice leave the Hasidic community altogether?

00:38:22 TW: ED

00:40:30 How others who have left high demand religions helped Beatrice heal

00:45:15 How people in the Hasidic community use Beatrice's story to perpetuate harmful ideologies

00:46:39 Things Beatrice misses from being in the community

00:50:05 Losing your community for your freedom

00:52:22 What makes Beatrice feel fulfilled?

00:54:32 Huffington Post article sneak peek

00:58:38 Exploring yourself as you are, not as someone has told you to be

01:01:20 Resources for leaving high demand religious groups

01:05:00 Linda, listen

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