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#93 Joey Rios, NASA and UTM: Solve Something Right Now
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In this episode we sit down with Dr. Joey Rios, Chief Technologist for the Aviation Systems Division at NASA Ames Research Center, for a discussion on the evolution of Unmanned Aircraft Systems Traffic Management (UTM). Joey takes us through the early days of UTM development, reflecting on the foundational principles, the initial use cases, and how the vision has evolved over time. We dive deep into the challenges of airspace design, the reasoning behind the U.S. federated model, and how it compares to other global approaches. Joey also shares his perspective on current operations, including the Dallas Operational Evaluation site and how safe BVLOS operations at scale might evolve within and outside of the Mode C veil.
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1. #93 Joey Rios, NASA and UTM: Solve Something Right Now (00:00:00)
2. Challenges in Airspace Design and Maintenance (00:05:22)
3. Understanding UTM and Its Evolution (00:08:07)
4. Federated vs. Centralized Airspace Management (00:11:58)
5. Basic Principles When Designing UTM (00:14:08)
6. Current UTM Operations Vs. How Originally Envisioned (00:18:39)
7. The Dallas Operational Evaluation Site (00:20:53)
8. BVLOS Operations and Safety Considerations (00:22:28)
9. Deconfliction in and outside of the Mode C veil (00:23:49)
10. Sharing Intent: A Real World Example (00:31:36)
11. Profitability and Viability in the UAS Industry (00:38:38)
12. Global Perspectives on UAS Regulations (00:41:30)
13. Interoperability and Data Exchange Challenges (00:47:15)
14. Automation and Future Air Traffic Management (00:51:03)
15. You're Not Going To Be The Only One In The Airspace (00:53:12)
16. Advice for Aspiring UAS Professionals (00:59:56)
17. Solving The Hard Problems (01:01:29)
18. Acknowledging Key Contributors in UTM Development (01:05:23)
19. Final Thoughts and Takeaways (01:07:58)
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