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E97 - Bayes and Calcium Before Diltiazem in Atrial Fibrillation
Manage episode 485721723 series 3496059
Train the Best. Change EMS.
Howdy, y'all, I'm Dr Jeff Jarvis, and I'm the host of the EMS lighthouse project podcast, but I'm also the medical director for the new EMS system we're building in Fort Worth Texas. We are looking for an experienced critical care paramedic who is an effective and inspiring educator to lead the initial and continuing training and credentialing of a new team of Critical Care Paramedics who will be responding to our highest acuity calls. The salary is negotiable but starts between $65,000 and $80,000 a year for this office position. Whether y'all wear cowboy boots or Birkenstocks, Fort Worth can be a great place to live and work. So if you're ready to create a world-class EMS system and change the EMS world with us, give us a call at 817-953-3083, take care y'all.
We covered a paper in episode 81 that suggested treating atrial fibrillation with rapid ventricular response in the field could lower mortality. But it also drops BP a bit. Could pretreating these patients with calcium lower the risk of hypotension? Dr Jarvis puts on his nerd hat and uses Bayesian analysis to assess a new randomized, placebo-controlled study that looked at just this thing. Why is he going off on this Bayes thing? Because he’s been reading a couple of book on it and wanted to take it for a spin.
Tables:
Charts:
Bayesian Distributions:
Citation:
1. Az A, Sogut O, Dogan Y, Akdemir T, Ergenc H, Umit TB, Celik AF, Armagan BN, Bilici E, Cakmak S: Reducing diltiazem-related hypotension in atrial fibrillation: Role of pretreatment intravenous calcium. The American Journal of Emergency Medicine. 2025;February;88:23–8.
2. Fornage LB, O’Neil C, Dowker SR, Wanta ER, Lewis RS, Brown LH: Prehospital Intervention Improves Outcomes for Patients Presenting in Atrial Fibrillation with Rapid Ventricular Response. Prehospital Emergency Care. doi: 10.1080/10903127.2023.2283885 (Epub ahead of print).
3. Kolkebeck T, Abbrescia K, Pfaff J, Glynn T, Ward JA: Calcium chloride before i.v. diltiazem in the management of atrial fibrillation. The Journal of Emergency Medicine. 2004;May 1;26(4):395–400.
4. Chivers T: Everything Is Predictable: How Bayes’ Remarkable Theorem Explains the World. Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2024.
5. McGrayne SB: The Theory That Would Not Die. how Bayes’ Rule Cracked The Enigma Code, Hunted Down Russian Submarines & Emerged Triumphant From Two Centuries of Controversy. New Haven, CT, Yale University Press, 2011.
98 episodes
Manage episode 485721723 series 3496059
Train the Best. Change EMS.
Howdy, y'all, I'm Dr Jeff Jarvis, and I'm the host of the EMS lighthouse project podcast, but I'm also the medical director for the new EMS system we're building in Fort Worth Texas. We are looking for an experienced critical care paramedic who is an effective and inspiring educator to lead the initial and continuing training and credentialing of a new team of Critical Care Paramedics who will be responding to our highest acuity calls. The salary is negotiable but starts between $65,000 and $80,000 a year for this office position. Whether y'all wear cowboy boots or Birkenstocks, Fort Worth can be a great place to live and work. So if you're ready to create a world-class EMS system and change the EMS world with us, give us a call at 817-953-3083, take care y'all.
We covered a paper in episode 81 that suggested treating atrial fibrillation with rapid ventricular response in the field could lower mortality. But it also drops BP a bit. Could pretreating these patients with calcium lower the risk of hypotension? Dr Jarvis puts on his nerd hat and uses Bayesian analysis to assess a new randomized, placebo-controlled study that looked at just this thing. Why is he going off on this Bayes thing? Because he’s been reading a couple of book on it and wanted to take it for a spin.
Tables:
Charts:
Bayesian Distributions:
Citation:
1. Az A, Sogut O, Dogan Y, Akdemir T, Ergenc H, Umit TB, Celik AF, Armagan BN, Bilici E, Cakmak S: Reducing diltiazem-related hypotension in atrial fibrillation: Role of pretreatment intravenous calcium. The American Journal of Emergency Medicine. 2025;February;88:23–8.
2. Fornage LB, O’Neil C, Dowker SR, Wanta ER, Lewis RS, Brown LH: Prehospital Intervention Improves Outcomes for Patients Presenting in Atrial Fibrillation with Rapid Ventricular Response. Prehospital Emergency Care. doi: 10.1080/10903127.2023.2283885 (Epub ahead of print).
3. Kolkebeck T, Abbrescia K, Pfaff J, Glynn T, Ward JA: Calcium chloride before i.v. diltiazem in the management of atrial fibrillation. The Journal of Emergency Medicine. 2004;May 1;26(4):395–400.
4. Chivers T: Everything Is Predictable: How Bayes’ Remarkable Theorem Explains the World. Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 2024.
5. McGrayne SB: The Theory That Would Not Die. how Bayes’ Rule Cracked The Enigma Code, Hunted Down Russian Submarines & Emerged Triumphant From Two Centuries of Controversy. New Haven, CT, Yale University Press, 2011.
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