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The Cessationist Debate: Have Miraculous Gifts Ceased?

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What if the miraculous gifts recorded in scripture were specifically tied to a historical moment and purpose? In this thought-provoking episode, we explore cessationism—the theological position that sign gifts like tongues, prophecy, and miraculous healing ceased with the apostolic age.
The conversation begins by unpacking four distinct cessationist perspectives, from classical views that tie these gifts directly to the apostles to more pragmatic approaches that allow for rare occurrences in unreached mission fields. We distinguish between God's sovereign ability to perform miracles and the specific authenticating signs given to validate the apostles' ministry.
Our guest Cory Reckner shares candid personal experiences from charismatic churches where practices like being "slain in the spirit" and speaking in tongues created more confusion than clarity. This leads us to examine how the biblical purpose of tongues at Pentecost served as a reversal of Babel's division, bringing nations together rather than separating them.
We tackle common objections from continuationist thinkers like Mark Driscoll, NT Wright, and Dr. Michael Brown, examining where category errors might confuse prayer's power with apostolic sign gifts. Drawing insights from B.B. Warfield's "Counterfeit Miracles," we consider how psychosomatic effects, poor medical diagnoses, and folklore can explain some modern miracle claims.
Whether you're questioning tongues-speaking experiences, trying to understand why God seems to perform miracles differently today, or simply seeking biblical clarity on spiritual gifts, this episode offers thoughtful perspectives that honor scripture's authority while acknowledging God's continuing power to answer prayer and intervene providentially in our world.

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Chapters

1. Introduction to Cessationism (00:00:00)

2. Four Types of Cessationist Views (00:10:05)

3. Personal Experiences with Charismatic Churches (00:20:16)

4. Speaking in Tongues: Historical Purpose (00:32:42)

5. Category Errors in Continuationist Arguments (00:45:38)

6. NT Wright and Psychosomatic Experiences (00:58:08)

7. Faith Healing and Medical Diagnoses (01:09:18)

8. The Apostolic Office and Miraculous Signs (01:20:59)

20 episodes

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What if the miraculous gifts recorded in scripture were specifically tied to a historical moment and purpose? In this thought-provoking episode, we explore cessationism—the theological position that sign gifts like tongues, prophecy, and miraculous healing ceased with the apostolic age.
The conversation begins by unpacking four distinct cessationist perspectives, from classical views that tie these gifts directly to the apostles to more pragmatic approaches that allow for rare occurrences in unreached mission fields. We distinguish between God's sovereign ability to perform miracles and the specific authenticating signs given to validate the apostles' ministry.
Our guest Cory Reckner shares candid personal experiences from charismatic churches where practices like being "slain in the spirit" and speaking in tongues created more confusion than clarity. This leads us to examine how the biblical purpose of tongues at Pentecost served as a reversal of Babel's division, bringing nations together rather than separating them.
We tackle common objections from continuationist thinkers like Mark Driscoll, NT Wright, and Dr. Michael Brown, examining where category errors might confuse prayer's power with apostolic sign gifts. Drawing insights from B.B. Warfield's "Counterfeit Miracles," we consider how psychosomatic effects, poor medical diagnoses, and folklore can explain some modern miracle claims.
Whether you're questioning tongues-speaking experiences, trying to understand why God seems to perform miracles differently today, or simply seeking biblical clarity on spiritual gifts, this episode offers thoughtful perspectives that honor scripture's authority while acknowledging God's continuing power to answer prayer and intervene providentially in our world.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Introduction to Cessationism (00:00:00)

2. Four Types of Cessationist Views (00:10:05)

3. Personal Experiences with Charismatic Churches (00:20:16)

4. Speaking in Tongues: Historical Purpose (00:32:42)

5. Category Errors in Continuationist Arguments (00:45:38)

6. NT Wright and Psychosomatic Experiences (00:58:08)

7. Faith Healing and Medical Diagnoses (01:09:18)

8. The Apostolic Office and Miraculous Signs (01:20:59)

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