A podcast about all things learning Cantonese, hosted by a teacher and a student. We upload conversations in Cantonese meant to help students improve their listening ability, while also highlighting the global Cantonese-speaking community.
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Recorded inside the historic school room in the Wing Sang Building, The School Room shares stories connected to the Chinese Canadian Museum’s exhibitions and programming. Join host Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee, CEO of the Chinese Canadian Museum, and a special guest each month as they go in-depth on Chinese Canadian experiences.
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Ming Wong | Speculative Futures: Cantopop and Transnational Chinese Identity
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27:24Between 1984 and 1997, in the lead up to the handover of Hong Kong from British rule back to Chinese sovereignty, over 300,000 Hongkongers emigrated to Canada. With them, they not only brought over their families and dreams for a better future, but also the sounds of home through Cantopop and the laserdiscs their favourite artists came to life on. …
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Chih-Chien Wang | Archival Letters for Hope
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30:57Born in Taiwan and living in Montreal since 2002, Chih-Chien Wang is an artist who uses photography, video and objects and at times integrates text, performance and sound into his work, which explores the ordinary moments of everyday life that reflects his understanding of people, society and the city where he lives. He has shown his work across Ca…
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Howie Tsui | Stones, Bones, and Diasporic Longing
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27:06Born in Hong Kong, raised in Lagos and Thunder Bay, Vancouver based artist Howie Tsui works in ink brush, sound sculptures, lenticular lightboxes and installation, constructing tense, fictive environments that undermine venerated art forms and narrative genres, often stemming from the Chinese literati tradition. He employs a stylized form of derisi…
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This episode features an interview with Dr. Zoe Wai-Man Lam, a lecturer in Cantonese at the University of British Columbia and the main instructor and curriculum advisor for the Cantonese Saturday School at the Mon Keang School in Vancouver’s historic Chinatown. Dr. Lam has a PhD in Linguistics from the University of British Columbia as well as bot…
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Stella Zheng | Illustrating Dr. Wally’s World
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17:34Based in Vancouver, Stella Zheng is an artist and illustrator who utilizes a mix of traditional Chinese art-making tools and digital mediums to create illustrations that explore the intricacies of the Chinese diaspora and her identity. She strives to use illustration to present honest, multifaceted, and nuanced representations of Chinese culture th…
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Janet Wang | Making Art in Chinatown About Chinatown
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25:51A second-generation settler of Chinese heritage, Janet Wang is a Vancouver-based visual artist and educator working within a traditional painting practice, integrated with sculptural installation practices and digital media. Her creations explore the construction of identity through the appropriation and disruption of social patterns and familiar g…
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Morris Lum | Behind the Scenes: The Photography of C.B. Wand
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18:02Morris Lum is a Trinidadian-born photographer and artist whose work explores the hybrid nature of the Chinese-Canadian community through photography, form and documentary practices. His work also examines the ways in which Chinese history is represented in the media and archival material. Currently based in Mississauga, Ontario, Lum’s work has been…
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Karen Tam | “Made in China”: The Chinatown Curio Shop
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14:05Karen Tam is a Montreal-based artist and curator whose research focuses on the constructions and imaginations of cultures and communities. In her installations, she recreates Chinese restaurants, karaoke lounges, opium dens, curio shops and other sites of cultural encounters. Tam’s deep engagement with archival and collections research has also led…
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Marjorie Young | Chinatown Connections: Strathcona and Beyond
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23:48Strathcona is Vancouver’s oldest residential neighbourhood. Bordering Chinatown and the Downtown Eastside, it has historically been home to the working class, including the Chinese, Japanese, Jewish, Irish, Ukrainian, and Black communities. While gentrification has caused significant change and displacement of some of these communities, the neighbo…
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Dianne Leong Man | Connected Across Oceans: The South African Chinese Diaspora
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32:29How do Chinese diasporic experiences in South Africa differ from those in Canada? In this episode, Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee sits down with Dianne Leong Man, co-author of "Colour, Confusion, and Concessions: The History of the Chinese in South Africa", to learn about the country with the highest population of Chinese living in Africa and its community…
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Janet Bradley Worthington | Family Separation: The Story of Mah Tin Yick and the Oriental Home and School
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30:22The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1923 is the only immigration law in Canadian history to have prevented a particular group from entering the country on the basis of race, specifically barring people of Chinese descent from legally entering Canada from 1923 until 1947 with very few exceptions. Preventing entry denied many prospective Chinese people oppo…
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Guest Episode: Jennifer Feeley, Part 3 (English)
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28:24This episode features the conclusion of our conversation with Jennifer Feeley. Where in previous episodes we discussed specific Hong Kong literature that Jennifer has translated, here she shares some advice for anyone interested in getting into literary translation. We are also thrilled to announce that since taping this episode, the American Liter…
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Lillian Dyck | Stubborn Advocacy: Growing up Chinese-Indigenous
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27:17Dr. Lillian Eva Quan Dyck’s life has been one of many firsts. The first Indigenous female senator, first Canadian-born senator of Chinese descent, and first Indigenous woman in Canada to earn a PhD in science. Lillian has blazed trails in the sciences and Senate for her work in reforming the Criminal Code to consider harsher penalties for crimes ag…
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Lori Fung | Olympic History: The First Chinese Canadian Gold Medalist
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26:52The Los Angeles Summer Olympics in 1984 marked the first time an Olympic gold medal was awarded to a Chinese Canadian athlete. Lori Fung’s gold in the newly debuted sport of rhythmic gymnastics not only made history as the first Chinese Canadian and Japanese Canadian gold medalist, but also as the first ever rhythmic gymnastics gold medalist. On th…
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Guest Episode: Jennifer Feeley, Part 2 (English)
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16:51This episode features the second portion of our conversation with the award-winning literary translator Jennifer Feeley. Where last time we learned about her journey to Cantonese and her work translating the poetry and prose of the Hong Kong author Xi Xi, this time we hear about her recent translation of the psychological thriller Tongueless, by La…
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Chun Hon Chan: The First Chinese Canadian Olympian
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29:12Chun Hon Chan was the first Chinese Canadian to compete in the Olympic Games, participating in the weightlifting competitions at the Mexico City 1968 and Munich 1972 Summer Games. Standing at just 5'2" and weighing in at 120 pounds, his appearance and strength defied expectations during a time when Chinese men were stereotyped as physically weak. O…
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Guest Episode: Jennifer Feeley, Part 1 (English)
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32:01In this episode we interview the award-winning literary translator Jennifer Feeley. Jennifer has helped introduce English-language readers around the world to a variety of works of Hong Kong poetry and fiction. She has been particularly prolific this year—her translation of Lau Yee-Wa’s novel Tongueless came out in June, and her translation of Xi X…
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Learning Tip: Measure Words/量詞 (loeng6 ci4), Part 1 (粵/Eng)
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15:19Measure words (also referred to as "classifiers" in linguistics, or 量詞/loeng6 ci4) appear in multiple languages, but they have some special functions in Cantonese. Today we begin to discuss what to watch out for when studying or teaching them, as well as some of the ways that their usage differs between Cantonese and Mandarin.…
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Shelley Niro | Cafe Daughter: A Story of Chinese-Cree Identity
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18:48Shelley Niro (Mohawk) is a multidisciplinary contemporary artist, best known for her work in photography, painting, sculpting, beadwork, multimedia, and independent film. On this special episode celebrating National Indigenous History Month, host Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee and Shelley discuss the challenges surrounding representations of Indigenous peo…
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Conversation: Reading and Writing for Cantonese Speakers (粵, w/《絮言狂想》)
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30:04In this episode, we are joined by Israel, Kenny, and Samuel from the podcast seoi6 jin4 kwong4 soeng2. In that podcast, the trio uses Cantonese to discuss learning just about every other language in the world, and we highly recommend it to listeners of Chatty Cantonese. Another portion of our conversation appeared on the seoi6 jin4 kwong4 soeng2 fe…
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Charlayne Thornton-Joe | Victoria Chinatown: Creating Community with Community
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22:31Charlayne Thornton-Joe is perhaps best known for her stint as a city councilor in Victoria, where she tirelessly advocated for diverse cultural groups, including that of her own Chinese heritage. Today she serves as the Visitor Experience and Facilities Coordinator for the Chinese Canadian Museum’s Victoria exhibition in Fan Tan Alley, working toge…
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Gordon Jin | Another Chinese Head Tax? The 1906 Newfoundland Chinese Immigration Act
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23:29For many, Newfoundland is not usually the first place that comes to mind when thinking of the Chinese Canadian diaspora. While Canada and the United States closed their doors to Chinese immigration until the 1940s, Newfoundland, still a British colony, was the last place in North America to remain open to Chinese, albeit immigration came with a hef…
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Arlene Chan | Generational Activism: Documenting Chinese Canadian Belonging
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30:33What does it mean to serve your community? On this International Women’s Day special episode, host Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee sits down with Arlene Chan, author, historian, activist, and daughter of Jean Lumb – the first Chinese Canadian woman to be inducted into the Order of Canada for her own community activism. Tune in to learn about the work these …
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William Ping | The Newfoundland Paper Trail: Tracing Heritage Through Food and Writing
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18:02What do a photo album restaurant directory, steamed broccoli, and an autofiction novel have in common? All three were used by William Ping in reconnecting with his late grandfather, William Ping Sr, who was one of about 300 Chinese men to settle in Newfoundland when the Newfoundland Chinese head tax was in effect. On this month’s episode, William P…
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Julie Eng | Magical Legacies: The Life of Tony Eng
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23:00Chinese Canadian magician Tony Eng (1946-2008) was a beloved fixture in the Victoria, B.C. bar, restaurant, and entertainment scene for more than thirty years. His long list of accomplishments include running his own magic shop that was frequented by locals and tourists alike, establishing his unique magic show that drew inspiration from his Chines…
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Guest Episode: Allan Lau and Duck Lau, Part 2 (粵語)
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36:54Born and raised in Canada, Allan Lau is a versatile musician, doing everything from orchestrating movie scores to crafting commercial theme tracks for multinational corporations. He is also a voice artist and bass singer, bringing to life video game characters and movie trailers. Duck Lau Cho Tak is an award-winning Hong Kong musician/composer acti…
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Mel Yip | Before it was a Museum: Stories from the Wing Sang Building
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27:41Though museums typically house pieces of history, rarely are museums themselves housed within historic buildings. The Chinese Canadian Museum is a unique exception to this with its location inside the Wing Sang Building, the oldest brick building in Vancouver Chinatown and a heritage building listed on the Canadian Register of Historic Places. On t…
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Rick Wong | War Tales: Force 136 and a Clandestine Love Story
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29:17During World War II, thirteen Chinese Canadian men were hand-picked to serve as the first recruits of Force 136, a British Special Operations Executive unit whose mission was to blend in and infiltrate enemy lines in Japanese-occupied Southeast Asia. On this Remembrance Day special episode, host Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee is joined by Rick Wong, whose …
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Catherine Clement | The Paper Trail: A Story of Chinese Exclusion
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32:21In this inaugural episode of The School Room, the podcast of the Chinese Canadian Museum, host Dr. Melissa Karmen Lee sits down with curator Catherine Clement to discuss her exhibition, The Paper Trail to the 1923 Chinese Exclusion Act. To learn more about the Chinese Canadian Museum and book tickets, visit https://www.chinesecanadianmuseum.ca/.…
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Guest Episode: Allan Lau and Duck Lau, Part 1 (粵語)
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33:10Welcome to Season 3 of Chatty Cantonese! We start things off with a double-interview with two notable figures from the world of Cantopop, Allan Lau and Duck Lau. In addition to talking about their own musical experiences, the pair explain some Cantopop history and how newbies can learn more about the genre and its connection with Hong Kong culture.…
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Learning Tip: Thanking in Cantonese, do1 ze6 vs. m4 goi1 (English/粵語)
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23:11Inspired by a listener question, this episode addresses an issue all beginning Cantonese students face: in thanking someone, when should you use do1 ze6 (多謝) and when should you use m4 goi1 (唔該)? The underlying principle becomes clear with the help of a few hypothetical situations. Transcript and vocabulary…
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A discussion about where Hongkongers found cool refreshment in the olden days leads Raymond to share some unique drinks. Wonder what "a monk jumping into the ocean" is? Or how you could drink "veggie honey?" Listen to find out. Vocabulary and transcriptBy Chatty Cantonese
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Bernice Chan is a reporter whose career has stretched across the Pacific, reporting for both the South China Morning Post in Hong Kong and CBC in Vancouver. She also hosted the award-winning podcast Eat Drink Asia. In the second part of our interview, we talk about our favorite dim sum picks, why Hongkongers love trying new flavors, and where on Yo…
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Bernice Chan is a reporter whose career has stretched across the Pacific, reporting for both the South China Morning Post in Hong Kong and CBC in Vancouver. She also hosted the award-winning podcast Eat Drink Asia. In the first part of our interview, we talk about the trajectory of her career and the influence Hong Kong had on how she learned Canto…
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Learning Tip: SFPs 4 - gwaa3, wo3/bo3, wo4, and wo5 (English/粵語)
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12:15How can this be happening?! In this episode, we dig into SFPs (sentence final particles) useful for expressing surprise, reacting to information that should have been known previously, or relaying sketchy things someone else said that you disagree with. References: Basic Sentence-final Particles in Hong Kong Cantonese, by Yuen-lam Tsang Transcript …
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A little chat about time in the digital age... How do we stay focused when there are so many distractions out there? And what do you call a "bedside table" in Cantonese? Transcript and vocabularyBy Chatty Cantonese
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Guest Episode: Gina Anne Tam, Part 2 (English, 粵語)
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27:29This episode features the second half of our discussion with Dr. Gina Anne Tam, Associate Professor of History at Trinity University, and author of Dialect and Nationalism in China, 1860 – 1960 from Cambridge University Press. In this episode, we talk about the relationship between Mandarin and Cantonese in teaching and academia, as well as English…
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Guest Episode: Gina Anne Tam, Part 1 (English, 粵語)
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33:36This episode features the first half of our discussion with Dr. Gina Anne Tam, Associate Professor of History at Trinity University, and author of Dialect and Nationalism in China, 1860-1960 from Cambridge University Press. In this episode we talk about the distinction between “dialect” and “language” and what it means for Cantonese. Check back nex…
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Learning Tip: SFPs 3 - zaa3, ze1, zek1, and zaa4
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16:46More sentence final particles in this episode, this time centering around ones beginning with "z." They can be helpful for talking about quantity, degree, and justification--like when you're talking about that person who's "just" a friend... Episode transcript and vocabularyBy Chatty Cantonese
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Conversation: Written vs. Spoken Cantonese (粵語)
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13:17Pop quiz: How would you write "Give me that book" in Cantonese?「畀嗰本書我」or 「給我那本書」? The answer is... well, complicated. But where might you read the former vs. latter? In this episode we chat about the different ways Cantonese is written, as well as the fancy term "diglossia." Don's Snow's Cantonese as Written Language Vocabulary and transcript…
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This episode features the second part of our conversation with Jade Wu, where we discuss her publishing process and some of the ways her students have taught her over the years. Resources suggested at the end of the episode: Language Reactor Hong Kong Connection Rhapsody in Lingo CantoTalk Resonate Literary Magazine Episode vocabulary and transcrip…
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Part one of our interview with Jade Wu, author, podcaster, and teacher of Cantonese, Taishanese (Toisanese), and Mandarin. She has published textbooks for teaching all three languages, with Learn to Speak Taishanese I having come out just this year. In this episode we talk to Jade about what got her into writing textbooks, as well as some of the di…
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This week we talk about two more important SFPs, gaa3 (㗎) and laa3 (喇). Raymond has examples aplenty, while Cameron seems to have air conditioning on his mind. Vocabulary and transcriptBy Chatty Cantonese
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Following up on the last episode about Cantonese stand-up comedy, Raymond challenges Cameron with some Cantonese "爛gag," or anti-humor jokes. Word play and facepalming abound. Vocabulary and transcriptBy Chatty Cantonese
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Guest Episode: Vivek Mahbubani, Part 2 (粵語)
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18:57This week features the second half of our discussion with Vivek Mahbubani, a bilingual stand-up comedian from Hong Kong who performs in both Cantonese and English. He has appeared in local film, TV, and radio, and he also co-hosts the podcast Ho Ho Hong Kong. This week we look into Vivek’s tips for learning Cantonese, and the role that humor can pl…
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Guest Episode: Vivek Mahbubani, Part 1 (粵語)
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18:07This week features the first half of our discussion with Vivek Mahbubani, a bilingual stand-up comedian from Hong Kong who performs in both Cantonese and English. He has appeared in local film, TV, and radio, and he also co-hosts the podcast Ho Ho Hong Kong. This week’s portion touches on his experience growing up in Hong Kong, linguistic specifici…
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Learning Tip: Intro to Sentence Final Particles and the Uses of "aa" (English/粵語)
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16:21In the first of a series of episodes on Sentence Final Particles (SFPs), we look at how just one syllable can change the feeling of a Cantonese sentence. Using aa as an example, we run through how shifts in the tone of that syllable can further impact how the sentence is received. SFPs can be a bit of a challenge, but they are also part of what mak…
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Conversation: Updating Old Movie Lines (粵語)
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11:44Have you ever watched an old movie and wondered if some of the lines might be spoken differently today? This week, Cameron challenges Raymond to a game where he has to take lines from Cantonese movies from the 50s and 60s and update them for a contemporary audience. Some of the lines include phrases that are used less in contemporary Hong Kong, whi…
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Guest Episode: Chaakming Lau, Part 2 (粵語)
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24:06This episode features the second part of our interview with Dr. Lau, Chaakming, a long-term researcher and proponent of Cantonese in Hong Kong, his previous projects include words.hk and HamBaangLaang, and now he's also developing various other language resources. Dr Lau is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Linguistics and Modern Language…
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Guest Episode: Chaakming Lau, Part 1 (粵語)
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21:39This episode features the first part of our interview with Dr. Lau, Chaakming, a long-term researcher and proponent of Cantonese in Hong Kong, his previous projects include words.hk and HamBaangLaang, and now he's also developing various other language resources. Dr Lau is an Assistant Professor at the Department of Linguistics and Modern Language …
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