Hosted by Accenture CISO Kris Burkhardt, the InfoSec Beat podcast is intended for cybersecurity and information security executives, and dives into current trends and tactics. In each episode, Kris and Accenture colleagues from InfoSec, IT and go-to-market teams discuss what it takes to keep client, business partner and enterprise data secure.
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Unusually in-depth conversations about the world's most pressing problems and what you can do to solve them. Subscribe by searching for '80000 Hours' wherever you get podcasts. Hosted by Rob Wiblin and Luisa Rodriguez.
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🔒 Cybersecurity is evolving — and so should you. Razorwire brings the open conversations that give you the edge. Welcome to the Razorwire podcast — your resource for practical advice, expert insights, and real-world conversations on cybersecurity, information security (InfoSec), risk management, governance, security leadership, human factors, and industry trends. Our mission is to help you build a stronger cybersecurity career while supporting a dynamic, agile community of professionals comm ...
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Catch-up on the latest information security news with our Podcast. Also, keep an eye out for our 'Author Interviews' where we speak with industry experts, covering; InfoSec, Cyber Security, IT, project management, and more.
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Catch up on the latest information security news with our fortnightly podcast. Also, keep an eye out for webinars and author interviews, where we speak with industry experts about information security, cyber security, data privacy and much, much more.
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Welcome to the podcast: Sustainable Compliance. Are you passionate about data protection, GDPR, information security, and general compliance? Then, this podcast is dedicated to you. We delve into the intricacies of data protection and compliance. Join us as the host, Jacob Høedt Larsen, interviews experts and discusses the latest trends, insights, and advice within the realm of compliance. We also explore how we can reshape the way we think and organise ourselves around compliance, to forge ...
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#217 – Beth Barnes on the most important graph in AI right now — and the 7-month rule that governs its progress
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3:47:09AI models today have a 50% chance of successfully completing a task that would take an expert human one hour. Seven months ago, that number was roughly 30 minutes — and seven months before that, 15 minutes. (See graph.) These are substantial, multi-step tasks requiring sustained focus: building web applications, conducting machine learning research…
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How Do You Safeguard AI When Development Outpaces Security? With Ante Gojsalić - SplxAI
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46:11Can we secure generative AI before it outpaces our ability to defend it? Welcome back to Razorwire, where we have our finger on the pulse of cybersecurity’s most urgent dilemmas and future threats. I’m your host, Jim and in this episode, I sit down with Ante Gojsalić, CTO and co-founder of SplxAI, to unpick the tangled challenges of securing the ne…
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Beyond human minds: The bewildering frontier of consciousness in insects, AI, and more
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3:34:40What if there’s something it’s like to be a shrimp — or a chatbot? For centuries, humans have debated the nature of consciousness, often placing ourselves at the very top. But what about the minds of others — both the animals we share this planet with and the artificial intelligences we’re creating? We’ve pulled together clips from past conversatio…
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InfoSec Beat: Reacting to and Interpreting Incidents in the News
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28:34Reports of cyber incidents crowd the headlines. How do you separate truth from misinformation? What happens next? Get a behind-the-scenes look at Accenture’s cyber incident response playbook. Accenture CISO Kris Burkhardt and his guests, Adam Long, global lead of Accenture’s Cyber Incident Response Team within Accenture Information Security, and Mi…
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Don’t believe OpenAI’s “nonprofit” spin (emergency pod with Tyler Whitmer)
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1:12:04OpenAI’s recent announcement that its nonprofit would “retain control” of its for-profit business sounds reassuring. But this seemingly major concession, celebrated by so many, is in itself largely meaningless. Litigator Tyler Whitmer is a coauthor of a newly published letter that describes this attempted sleight of hand and directs regulators on h…
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How To Get Your Staff to Actually Care About Cybersecurity
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39:45Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast that challenges conventional thinking about cybersecurity with insight, humour and a dose of reality. In this episode, James Rees is joined by security awareness specialists Amy Stokes-Waters and Jemma to dismantle outdated approaches to security training. From click-through fatigue to the critical importance of cu…
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The case for and against AGI by 2030 (article by Benjamin Todd)
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1:00:06More and more people have been saying that we might have AGI (artificial general intelligence) before 2030. Is that really plausible? This article by Benjamin Todd looks into the cases for and against, and summarises the key things you need to know to understand the debate. You can see all the images and many footnotes in the original article on th…
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Emergency pod: Did OpenAI give up, or is this just a new trap? (with Rose Chan Loui)
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1:02:50When attorneys general intervene in corporate affairs, it usually means something has gone seriously wrong. In OpenAI’s case, it appears to have forced a dramatic reversal of the company’s plans to sideline its nonprofit foundation, announced in a blog post that made headlines worldwide. The company’s sudden announcement that its nonprofit will “re…
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#216 – Ian Dunt on why governments in Britain and elsewhere can't get anything done – and how to fix it
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3:14:52When you have a system where ministers almost never understand their portfolios, civil servants change jobs every few months, and MPs don't grasp parliamentary procedure even after decades in office — is the problem the people, or the structure they work in? Today's guest, political journalist Ian Dunt, studies the systemic reasons governments succ…
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Security Gone Mad: The Fine Art of Overdoing It
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41:41Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast that challenges conventional thinking about cybersecurity with insight, humour and a dose of reality. In this brilliantly unfiltered episode, we're joined by security professionals Iain Pye and Chris Dawson for a no-holds-barred discussion about security measures that cross the line from prudent to preposterous. Fr…
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Serendipity, weird bets, & cold emails that actually work: Career advice from 16 former guests
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2:18:41How do you navigate a career path when the future of work is uncertain? How important is mentorship versus immediate impact? Is it better to focus on your strengths or on the world’s most pressing problems? Should you specialise deeply or develop a unique combination of skills? From embracing failure to finding unlikely allies, we bring you 16 dive…
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InfoSec Beat: The Golden Age of Managed Security Services Reinvention
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20:10Can the way Accenture delivers managed security services be reinvented? Accenture CISO Kris Burkhardt poses this question to guest Rex Thexton, chief technology officer of Accenture Security, who gives a definite yes. Rex shares several exciting opportunities possible in the next 12 to 18 months. Listen to learn more about the prospects of AI-power…
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#215 – Tom Davidson on how AI-enabled coups could allow a tiny group to seize power
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3:22:44Throughout history, technological revolutions have fundamentally shifted the balance of power in society. The Industrial Revolution created conditions where democracies could flourish for the first time — as nations needed educated, informed, and empowered citizens to deploy advanced technologies and remain competitive. Unfortunately there’s every …
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Unconventional Paths to Cybersecurity (AKA keeping your Nan Safe From Hackers)
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41:25How can overcoming personal adversity lead to a successful career in cybersecurity? Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast that delves into the world of cybersecurity by sharing the journeys of its most inspiring figures. Join us for a truly heartwarming episode as we welcome Jemma, the brilliant mind behind CultureGem and a passionate champion for secu…
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Guilt, imposter syndrome & doing good: 16 past guests share their mental health journeys
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1:47:10"We are aiming for a place where we can decouple the scorecard from our worthiness. It’s of course the case that in trying to optimise the good, we will always be falling short. The question is how much, and in what ways are we not there yet? And if we then extrapolate that to how much and in what ways am I not enough, that’s where we run into trou…
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#214 – Buck Shlegeris on controlling AI that wants to take over – so we can use it anyway
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2:16:03Most AI safety conversations centre on alignment: ensuring AI systems share our values and goals. But despite progress, we’re unlikely to know we’ve solved the problem before the arrival of human-level and superhuman systems in as little as three years. So some are developing a backup plan to safely deploy models we fear are actively scheming to ha…
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Mastering the Art of Communication in InfoSec
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42:59In this latest episode of Razorwire, I sit down with the brilliant Stefania Chaplin to explore the often overlooked yet crucial skill of effective communication in information security. Throughout our conversation, we discuss why communication matters so much in our field, especially during critical moments when tensions run high. Stefania brings h…
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15 expert takes on infosec in the age of AI
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2:35:54"There’s almost no story of the future going well that doesn’t have a part that’s like '…and no evil person steals the AI weights and goes and does evil stuff.' So it has highlighted the importance of information security: 'You’re training a powerful AI system; you should make it hard for someone to steal' has popped out to me as a thing that just …
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Spotlight on Technology: Mastering Attack Surface Management
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48:45In our latest episode, join me, James Rees, for a chat with Nick Palmer from Censys about the critical importance of attack surface management. With 25 years of experience in the industry, Nick explains how today's threat landscape has evolved dramatically, with attackers now discovering vulnerabilities within hours rather than weeks. We explore th…
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#213 – Will MacAskill on AI causing a “century in a decade” – and how we're completely unprepared
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3:57:36The 20th century saw unprecedented change: nuclear weapons, satellites, the rise and fall of communism, third-wave feminism, the internet, postmodernism, game theory, genetic engineering, the Big Bang theory, quantum mechanics, birth control, and more. Now imagine all of it compressed into just 10 years. That’s the future Will MacAskill — philosoph…
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Data Use and Access Bill - The DPO perspective
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44:28In October 2024, the Data Use & Access Bill (DUAB) was introduced to Parliament, proposing changes to data protection rules in the UK. But what is the impact of the Bill, and what will it mean for you – the practitioners responsible for compliance in day-to-day business? Join us for a practitioner-focused discussion with Data Protection Officer Dom…
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Emergency pod: Judge plants a legal time bomb under OpenAI (with Rose Chan Loui)
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36:50When OpenAI announced plans to convert from nonprofit to for-profit control last October, it likely didn’t anticipate the legal labyrinth it now faces. A recent court order in Elon Musk’s lawsuit against the company suggests OpenAI’s restructuring faces serious legal threats, which will complicate its efforts to raise tens of billions in investment…
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AI Data Harvesting - Who Really Owns Your Digital Footprint?
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49:46In this episode of Razorwire, we’re looking into the contentious realm of AI and data privacy. This week, I’m joined by Amy Stokes Waters, CEO of The Cyber Escape Room Company, and Ryan Mangan, a chartered IT professional and Microsoft MVP, to explore the ethical implications of feeding our personal data into AI systems. Join our discussion on rece…
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“Data protection isn’t about law or tech—it’s about understanding how they work together” - with Yagmur Sahin
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35:41Guest: Yagmur Sahin, Information Governance and Data Protection Manager at Data Privacy Simplified Host: Jacob H. Larsen, Wired Relations In this episode, Jacob H. Larsen sits down with Yagmur Sahin, a qualified lawyer with dual master’s degrees in law and cybersecurity, to discuss her unique career journey into data protection. Yagmur shares insig…
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#139 Classic episode – Alan Hájek on puzzles and paradoxes in probability and expected value
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3:41:31A casino offers you a game. A coin will be tossed. If it comes up heads on the first flip you win $2. If it comes up on the second flip you win $4. If it comes up on the third you win $8, the fourth you win $16, and so on. How much should you be willing to pay to play? The standard way of analysing gambling problems, ‘expected value’ — in which you…
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#143 Classic episode – Jeffrey Lewis on the most common misconceptions about nuclear weapons
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2:40:52America aims to avoid nuclear war by relying on the principle of 'mutually assured destruction,' right? Wrong. Or at least... not officially. As today's guest — Jeffrey Lewis, founder of Arms Control Wonk and professor at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies — explains, in its official 'OPLANs' (military operation plans), the US is com…
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Inside Incident Response: Turning Chaos into Cohesive Teamwork
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47:29Our latest episode brings in security expert Iain Pye, who shares military tales with me, your host James Rees, about what really happens when everything goes wrong. We get stuck into the nitty-gritty of incident response - the sleepless nights, the pressure from executives, and how to keep your team going when they're running on fumes. From ransom…
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#212 – Allan Dafoe on why technology is unstoppable & how to shape AI development anyway
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2:44:07Technology doesn’t force us to do anything — it merely opens doors. But military and economic competition pushes us through. That’s how today’s guest Allan Dafoe — director of frontier safety and governance at Google DeepMind — explains one of the deepest patterns in technological history: once a powerful new capability becomes available, societies…
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Emergency pod: Elon tries to crash OpenAI's party (with Rose Chan Loui)
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57:29On Monday Musk made the OpenAI nonprofit foundation an offer they want to refuse, but might have trouble doing so: $97.4 billion for its stake in the for-profit company, plus the freedom to stick with its current charitable mission. For a normal company takeover bid, this would already be spicy. But OpenAI’s unique structure — a nonprofit foundatio…
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AGI disagreements and misconceptions: Rob, Luisa, & past guests hash it out
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3:12:24Will LLMs soon be made into autonomous agents? Will they lead to job losses? Is AI misinformation overblown? Will it prove easy or hard to create AGI? And how likely is it that it will feel like something to be a superhuman AGI? With AGI back in the headlines, we bring you 15 opinionated highlights from the show addressing those and other questions…
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#124 Classic episode – Karen Levy on fads and misaligned incentives in global development, and scaling deworming to reach hundreds of millions
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3:10:21If someone said a global health and development programme was sustainable, participatory, and holistic, you'd have to guess that they were saying something positive. But according to today's guest Karen Levy — deworming pioneer and veteran of Innovations for Poverty Action, Evidence Action, and Y Combinator — each of those three concepts has become…
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The Cost of Being a CISO Part 2: Ethics, Leadership and Strategic Impact
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50:28Welcome back to Razorwire! I'm your host, Jim, and in this second part of our CISO Dilemmas series, we welcome back security experts Oliver Rochford and Richard Cassidy. Moving beyond the challenges covered in part one, this episode explores the rewarding aspects of the role while taking a frank look at the ethical issues security leaders regularly…
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If digital minds could suffer, how would we ever know? (Article)
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1:14:30“I want everyone to understand that I am, in fact, a person.” Those words were produced by the AI model LaMDA as a reply to Blake Lemoine in 2022. Based on the Google engineer’s interactions with the model as it was under development, Lemoine became convinced it was sentient and worthy of moral consideration — and decided to tell the world. Few exp…
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#132 Classic episode – Nova DasSarma on why information security may be critical to the safe development of AI systems
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2:41:11If a business has spent $100 million developing a product, it’s a fair bet that they don’t want it stolen in two seconds and uploaded to the web where anyone can use it for free. This problem exists in extreme form for AI companies. These days, the electricity and equipment required to train cutting-edge machine learning models that generate uncann…
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Making the basics right still matter in InfoSec, wíth Susanne Bitter
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34:23Episode Summary: In this episode of Sustainable Compliance, host Jacob H. Larsen talks with Susanne Bitter, a seasoned information security and data protection expert with over 15 years of experience. Susanne shares her insights on the transformative role of AI in cybersecurity, the challenges of governance and supply chain risks, and why getting t…
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InfoSec Beat: Careers in Information Security – Governance, Risk and Compliance
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33:28This episode of the InfoSec Beat podcast focused on careers in information security features a conversation between Accenture CISO Kris Burkhardt and Paul Kunas, who led our Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC) function for almost 10 years. Paul’s career journey involved security roles at Accenture and other companies and ultimately a return to A…
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#138 Classic episode – Sharon Hewitt Rawlette on why pleasure and pain are the only things that intrinsically matter
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2:25:43What in the world is intrinsically good — good in itself even if it has no other effects? Over the millennia, people have offered many answers: joy, justice, equality, accomplishment, loving god, wisdom, and plenty more. The question is a classic that makes for great dorm-room philosophy discussion. But it’s hardly just of academic interest. The is…
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Cybersecurity 2025 – Predictions from the Experts
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47:40Surviving and Thriving in the 2025 Cybersecurity Landscape: Predictions and Strategies Welcome back to Razorwire! Join me, Jim, as we forecast the major trends and changes for 2025 that are set to reshape the cybersecurity industry. Joining me are cyber veterans and regular guests Oliver Rochford and Richard Cassidy. As cybersecurity becomes increa…
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#134 Classic episode – Ian Morris on what big-picture history teaches us
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3:40:53Wind back 1,000 years and the moral landscape looks very different to today. Most farming societies thought slavery was natural and unobjectionable, premarital sex was an abomination, women should obey their husbands, and commoners should obey their monarchs. Wind back 10,000 years and things look very different again. Most hunter-gatherer groups t…
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#140 Classic episode – Bear Braumoeller on the case that war isn’t in decline
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2:48:03Is war in long-term decline? Steven Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature brought this previously obscure academic question to the centre of public debate, and pointed to rates of death in war to argue energetically that war is on the way out. But that idea divides war scholars and statisticians, and so Better Angels has prompted a spirited deba…
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Supercharge Your Security Budget in 2025: Smarter Investments, Stronger Defence
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48:39Ever wonder how to get the most out of your cybersecurity budget without leaving your company vulnerable? Hey there, it’s Jim from Razorwire! In this episode, I sit down with cybersecurity pros Chris Dawson and Iain Pye to chat about smart spending when it comes to your cybersecurity budget. Whether you’re a big enterprise with a hefty budget or a …
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2024 Highlightapalooza! (The best of The 80,000 Hours Podcast this year)
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2:50:02"A shameless recycling of existing content to drive additional audience engagement on the cheap… or the single best, most valuable, and most insight-dense episode we put out in the entire year, depending on how you want to look at it." — Rob Wiblin It’s that magical time of year once again — highlightapalooza! Stick around for one top bit from each…
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#211 – Sam Bowman on why housing still isn't fixed and what would actually work
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3:25:46Rich countries seem to find it harder and harder to do anything that creates some losers. People who don’t want houses, offices, power stations, trains, subway stations (or whatever) built in their area can usually find some way to block them, even if the benefits to society outweigh the costs 10 or 100 times over. The result of this ‘vetocracy’ ha…
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The Cost of Being A CISO Part 1: Personal, Professional & Organisational Challenges
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58:38Join us for part one of our two-part series examining the world of Chief Information Security Officers. This episode welcomes back Richard Cassidy, Field CISO at Rubrik, and Oliver Rochford, former Gartner analyst and founder of Cyberfuturist. This episode offers insights that will give you insight into what makes security leadership successful - a…
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#210 – Cameron Meyer Shorb on dismantling the myth that we can’t do anything to help wild animals
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3:21:03"I really don’t want to give the impression that I think it is easy to make predictable, controlled, safe interventions in wild systems where there are many species interacting. I don’t think it’s easy, but I don’t see any reason to think that it’s impossible. And I think we have been making progress. I think there’s every reason to think that if w…
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#209 – Rose Chan Loui on OpenAI’s gambit to ditch its nonprofit
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1:22:08One OpenAI critic calls it “the theft of at least the millennium and quite possibly all of human history.” Are they right? Back in 2015 OpenAI was but a humble nonprofit. That nonprofit started a for-profit, OpenAI LLC, but made sure to retain ownership and control. But that for-profit, having become a tech giant with vast staffing and investment, …
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Humans vs AI: Building a Security Culture That Actually Works with Noora Ahmed-Moshe
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49:14As AI reshapes cybersecurity threats, understanding how scams are evolving has never been more critical. Welcome to Razorwire. I'm Jim, and today I'm talking with Noora Ahmed-Moshe, VP of Strategy and Operations at Hoxhunt. We'll explore how AI is transforming cybersecurity threats and what that means for protecting ourselves and our organisations.…
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#208 – Elizabeth Cox on the case that TV shows, movies, and novels can improve the world
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2:22:03"I think stories are the way we shift the Overton window — so widen the range of things that are acceptable for policy and palatable to the public. Almost by definition, a lot of things that are going to be really important and shape the future are not in the Overton window, because they sound weird and off-putting and very futuristic. But I think …
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Why Schools Need DPIAs: Claire Archibald on Protecting Student Privacy
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33:09In this episode, Jacob Høedt Larsen, talks to Claire Archibald about: Claire's Background: Claire Archibald, a legal director at Browne Jacobson, specializes in data protection and information governance in education, with a strong passion for children’s and staff privacy in schools. Path into Data Protection: Claire’s career began in regulatory la…
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#207 – Sarah Eustis-Guthrie on why she shut down her charity, and why more founders should follow her lead
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2:58:39"I think one of the reasons I took [shutting down my charity] so hard is because entrepreneurship is all about this bets-based mindset. So you say, “I’m going to take a bunch of bets. I’m going to take some risky bets that have really high upside.” And this is a winning strategy in life, but maybe it’s not a winning strategy for any given hand. So …
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