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Are you Climate Curious? If you care about the world, but find the current conversation about climate change confusing, scary or boring – then this might be the podcast for you. Join TEDxLondon and co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst as we lift the lid on the climate emergency by speaking to the world’s leading and most relatable climate pioneers. Find out why cities are key to the climate fight, why we need to tackle systemic problems (and not just plastic straws), and why we’re all a bit c ...
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The Web of Us

Claire Wathen

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The Web of Us explores the visible and invisible connections that shape our world. Hosted by Claire Wathen, Visiting Fellow at the University of Oxford Saïd Business School, and produced by Josie Colter and Ben Beheshty at Studio Goldstar, this podcast invites you to explore how networks show up across everything from our brains and natural systems to our communities and workplaces. Guests from Oxford and around the world share unexpected career paths, insights from their fields, and reflect ...
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Gamers are getting playful in the name of climate action, and it’s working! Featuring a digital wardrobe entrepreneur, a creative coder, an urban greening technologist, and a climate meme shitposter, Climate Curious asks – how are games encouraging people to play their way into being an environmentalist? Recorded live at Sexy Climate Change and Now…
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What drives someone to swap a job at Goldman Sachs for a one-way ticket to the Congo? Journalist and mathematician Anjan Sundaram joins Climate Curious to share his journey from elite institutions to some of the most dangerous places on Earth, reporting on climate conflicts and the lives – and deaths – of the world’s bravest environmental defenders…
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Sci-fi film-making can be sustainable, says film professor and filmmaker Dr. Itandehui Jansen on the Climate Curious podcast. From filming in natural light, walking to set, and not creating set-builds, Itandehui shares the low-carbon filmmaking approaches that helped her to create the experimental sci-fi film ‘Itu Ninu’ – a story of two climate mig…
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“There may well be measures that we can take on a temporary basis to cool the Arctic and to prolong Arctic sea ice”, says Brad Ack, the CEO of Ocean Visions. He joins Climate Curious to discuss how the ocean can play a central role in re-stabalising the climate. From its role in providing zero carbon food and energy and cleaning up carbon pollution…
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Who gets labelled a criminal in the fight for climate justice – and why? In this episode of Climate Curious, filmmakers Becky Burchell and Sophie Austin discuss the making of their latest documentary, Climate Criminals?, a documentary that retells the stories of frontline climate activists, in their own words. From Just Stop Oil’s Stonehenge protes…
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What if the answers you’re searching for are already within you? Icelandic author and filmmaker Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir joins Climate Curious to explore InnSæi – the Icelandic concept of intuition, self-awareness, and inner connection. Hrund shares her path to rediscovering presence and alignment with intuition through mindfulness and journaling, be…
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“To make this world work, we have to be fanatically positive,” says globally renowned choreographer and founder of LINES Ballet Alonzo King on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Alonzo shares why movement is life, growing up with artistic and activist parents, and why stillness is key for sincere creative thought and collective acti…
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Imagine a garbage collector, but for your digital junk. Vijay Karia joins Climate Curious to share his solution for tackling the invisible but growing problem of digital waste – a platform designed to help organisations identify and eliminate unnecessary digital storage, cutting carbon emissions in the process. What’s even better? Profits from clea…
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“Live without fear,” says Hollywood actor and Oglala Lakota citizen Mo Brings Plenty, star of the hit series Yellowstone, on Climate Curious. Saddle up for an epic episode as Mo shares stories of growing up on the reservation, what baby buffalos have taught him about life, and how he’s determined to kick down more doors for American Indian folks to…
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“Water is more than a resource; it’s a relative,” says water professor and protector Kelsey Leonard on the Climate Curious podcast, recorded live at TED 2025. In conversation with co-host Maryam Pasha, Kelsey shares how she’s working to ensure water gets the same legal rights as humans – legal “personhood”. Because even though water is essential to…
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"Focusing on the solutions gives you the motivation to wake up every day and be like, okay, we are doing something," says Jacquelyn Francis, founder and executive director of the Global Warming Mitigation Project on Climate Curious. From solar huts in sub-saharan Africa to electric drones delivering medical supplies in the U.S., Jacquelyn shares wh…
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"Even though there may be all sorts of conflicts brewing, we can still talk as human beings who are fascinated; filled with wonder and curiosity," says Emeritus Research Fellow in Fungal Biology at the University of Oxford, Sarah Watkinson, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Sarah shares how she’s built an enviable career spannin…
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What if rivers, forests, and mountains had legal rights–just like humans? Nature should be able to defend its rights, just like people can, says Earth Law Center’s Executive Director Grant Wilson on the Climate Curious podcast. Current laws only protect nature for the benefit of people, corporations, and profit, but Grant Wilson and his team of sup…
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"When people's lives are better and easier, they will not need to sell charcoal or cut down trees to feed their family," says food security specialist at the University of Maryland and NASA Harvest, Catherine Nakalembe. Catherine joins Climate Curious’s Maryam Pasha to share how satellite technology is used to monitor and predict agricultural condi…
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Are ‘The Herds’ roaming through a city near you? At our Climate Curious live event for London Climate Action Week, we sat down with David Lan, the producer of the worldwide street performance highlighting nature’s struggles through the medium of animal puppets, dance, and music. He shares what people can expect from their upcoming events in London …
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“When I try to do things, I have to take it out to the streets,” says Palestinian-born creative director of The Herds, Amir Nizar Zuabi. With his life-sized animal puppets that have made their way across the globe representing nature’s struggle, Climate Curious caught up with Nizar on what he has planned for London Climate Action Week, as well as w…
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The future of energy may be closer than we think, says Steffi Diem, an experimental plasma physicist on Climate Curious. She sits down Maryam Pasha live at TED 2025 to explain what fusion energy is, and how it could unlock a new frontier of clean energy in our lifetime, yay! Replacing fossil fuels with readily available hydrogen, Steffi shares why …
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If we can’t track it, we can’t fix it. That’s the idea behind MapBiomas, a project using satellite data to reveal exactly how land use is changing across the tropics. Founder Tasso Azevedo joins us live from TED 2025 to explain how the google maps for deforestation is empowering farmers and policymakers to turn their land into carbon sinks, not sou…
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“Use the arts and creativity as a way to speak to people's humanity around climate” says Willow Defebaugh, Editor-in-chief of the nature publication ‘Atmos’. This week Climate Curious is taking notes from Willow’s work blending creativity and climate storytelling into her unique and beautiful biannual magazine. Not to mention, we’ll be picking her …
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Not all that glitters is gold. Especially when it’s tinged with the poison of toxic mercury. On this week’s Curious Climate, co-host Maryam Pasha speaks to the rainforest toxicologist exposing mercury contamination in artisanal gold mining in the Amazon, live at TED 2025. The founding mercury research director at the Centro de Innovación Científica…
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"At our essence, we're more like the birds flying; we don't actually care about the boundaries that man has put on things," says genre-bending, Grammy-nominated recording artist Gina Chavez, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Gina shares how she’s transcended categorization as a bilingual artist, her journey building a multi-face…
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New ways of growing baby corals are bringing life back to fading coral reefs, says Executive Director of Impact at the Great Barrier Reef Foundation, Theresa Fyffe on the Climate Curious podcast recorded live at TED 2025. From teaming up with First Nations communities, to inviting tourists to play reef gardener by planting baby corals raised in cor…
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Wild rivers in Europe are vanishing fast—but not on Besjana Guri and Olsi Nika’s watch. In this episode of Climate Curious, the Albanian conservation activists share how over a ten year period they overcame big business, government pressure, and plenty of red tape to protect the Vjosa River in The Balkans—one of the last truly wild rivers in Europe…
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"When people can vouch for people, friction from certain systems can disappear at scale," says the co-founder of Kiva and president of Branch, Premal Shah, on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Premal takes us behind-the-scenes on how he created the world’s foremost microfinancing platform for underserved markets, shares how he made…
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Medical professionals are powerful voices in the climate conversation, says doctor turned climate advocate Dr. Bruce Bekkar on Climate Curious. From noticing the effects of pollution on his patients to taking his first steps into climate action, Bruce shares why protecting our environment is also about protecting our health. Recorded live at TED 20…
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Feeling wobbly about your place in the climate movement? You’re not alone. Writer, activist, and All We Can Save co-founder Katharine Wilkinson joins Climate Curious to share how even the tiniest action—whether in your job, your community, or your conversations—can ground you and spark bigger change. As she tells us at TED 2025, sometimes you just …
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"Developing a mindset which prepares us for this entangled future is the intellectual journey that we all need to go on," says the founding director of the Oxford Martin School, Ian Goldin on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Ian shares what makes him hopeful, four criteria for building a great organization, and why migration accel…
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Crop failure, drought and extreme weather is pushing families to look for income outside of their normal routes, shares Dr. Mark Ofua, a wildlife veterinarian and the founder of the Pangolin Nigeria Trust. Tune in to understand the unsettling drivers behind climate, wildlife conservation and economics–and how this is impacting the rare and magical …
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With 25% of marine biodiversity found on coral reefs, it’s vital they are kept healthy! On Climate Curious today we hear from marine biologist, data scientist, and TEDxLondon speaker, Ben Williams, on how he’s utilising AI models to scan through years of underwater audio. His work focuses on measuring the health of coral reefs in an effort to help …
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From microplastic contamination in our food supply, to endless plastic ending up in landfill our dependence on oil-based materials poses a major challenge. Climate Curious speaks to a bacteria trainer who has developed a very promising solution to this problem. 2025 TED Fellow Patricia Ayma Maldonado trains powerful bacteria to synthesise completel…
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Happy Earth Day! This year, we’re celebrating climate progress. We spoke to our Climate Curious experts about what keeps them going during challenging times. Tune in to receive six chunks of wisdom on how to keep positive when progress might feel hopeless. Recorded live at TED 2025 in Vancouver. Featuring: Vijay Karia Kelsey Leonard Jacquelyn Franc…
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 Environmentalism isn't a one dimensional thing, says environmental justice technologist and author Joycelyn Longdon on the Climate Curious podcast. In conversation with co-host Ben Hurst, Joycelyn shares the thinking behind her new book, ‘Natural Connection’, and breaks down how anyone can step into their inner environmentalist by tapping into rag…
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Sea otters are helping to capture carbon, says Alister Scott, the co-director of the Global Rewilding Alliance, on Climate Curious. By reintroducing sea otters back to their habitat in San Francisco, scientists have seen a growth in sea grass, which is a massive carbon sink. Tune in to learn more about this otterly wonderful natural climate solutio…
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From conveniently hiding key climate science to flat out running misinformation campaigns, Climate Curious takes a look at the far right’s influence on climate. We’re joined by journalist and ‘Alt Reich’ author Dr. Nafeez Ahmed to connect the dots between techno-authoritarian power players, right wing politics, and attempts to stall climate action.…
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"Everything in Oxford is named Oxford this or Oxford that, and we were very deliberate in being named Africa Oxford not Oxford Africa, and that re-centers Africa in the conversation" says the Co-Director of the Africa Oxford Initiative, Dr. Anne Makena on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Anne shares how she’s spearheading equitabl…
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"When you understand the power game, you understand that you are not so critical for politicians," says former Colombian minister and founder of Manos Visibles, Paula Moreno on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Paula explores the importance of creating inclusive spaces, why navigating power dynamics is about realizing that power is…
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"We shouldn't be paralyzed by analysis, right? That’s the essence of solving systems," says Brazilian entrepreneurship engineer Paulo Savaget on The Web of Us. In conversation with Claire Wathen, Paulo shares why thinking like a computer hacker can be a great approach, how piggybacking on other peoples’ solutions can save you a ton of work, and why…
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Sources and sinks aren’t bathroom fixtures, they’re our most powerful tools to turn up or dial down climate change, says Project Drawdown’s Executive Director, Jon Foley, on the Climate Curious podcast. The real solution starts with cutting the pollution at source, not trying to suck it up after the fact. As Jon puts it, “now is better than new”. T…
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Based on a true story: last Friday saw the cinema release of the post-apocalyptic musical ‘The End'. Climate Curious co-hosts Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst sat down with the academy award nominated and BAFTA winning director Joshua Oppenheimer to find out what inspired his bleak take on the surviving family of a energy exec after a world ending climat…
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Uru Uru team are using giant reeds called ‘totora’ to revive polluted lakes in Bolivia. Environmental activist Gustavo Blanco joins Climate Curious to dive into how restoring his local lakes protects so much more than just nature. It protects people and livelihoods. Learn more about the Uru Uru team: https://theirisproject.org/winner/the-uru-uru-te…
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Climate leadership comes from each and everyone of us, not just the United Nations, says Project Drawdown’s Executive Director Jon Foley on the Climate Curious. In conversation with Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst, tune in to learn how we invigorate a new sort of bottom-up climate leadership, which climate solutions are the best and should be accelerate…
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Climate justice supports disability justice, says Tiffany Yu on Climate Curious. LA resident, disability advocate, and author of "The Anti-Ableist Manifesto", Tiffany shares her on-the-ground experience of the LA fires from an often forgotten perspective: the disabled community. Created by TEDxLondon Executive produced by Josie Colter Produced by B…
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The world’s first climate ad aired at the Super Bowl earlier this year. What was it? How did it crash the world’s biggest stage for advertisers? And how well did it resonate? Here to explain how a simple but beautiful story about the power of a mother’s love managed to pull people’s heartstrings (and their purses!) is climate marketing professor Jo…
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“Hip hop makes the Earth look cool,” says eco-rapper, comedian, and creator who performs as Planet Earth and makes songs and videos about ecological topics, Hila The Earth, on Climate Curious. In conversation with host Ben Hurst, Hila shares her musical journey from zero waste advocate to comedic musical performer whose biggest inspiration is the b…
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Polluters rely on the social license created by advertising. From airlines on billboards, to SUVs on social media ads, polluters and their promoters work hard to make sure their image is tip-top! To reveal this pollution promotion ‘special relationship’, Climate Curious spoke to activist and artist Francesca Willow from the ‘Badvertising’ campaign’…
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Fossil fuel CEOs are pulling from slavery’s playbook. Whilst witnessing the CEO of Shell on stage advocating for continued investment in oil, today’s guest couldn’t help but be reminded of similar arguments from 200 years ago regarding the existence of slavery. On why looking back can help us ensure that history doesn’t repeat itself, here’s social…
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“We need to look in the rear view mirror of history and see what we can learn from the past to help us make decisions today.” Social philosopher and author, Roman Krznaric, spells out the importance of using history as a way to find climate solutions that exist in the past, not just the future. Recorded live in Oxford, Roman connects the dots betwe…
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Is the technology for our power grid outdated? With 20 years experience in material science, co-founder of TS Conductor, Jason Huang thinks so. We hear how modern technology can double or even triple the capacity of power grids, which is crucial to modernise the grid and accelerate the green energy transition. Created by TEDxLondon Executive produc…
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Can satellites save the rainforest? (Spoiler: yes!) Satellite data can help keep rainforests healthy, says Associate Professor Dr. Jesús Aguirre Gutiérrez from the University of Oxford, on Climate Curious. Using satellite imagery to track biodiversity patterns and thus how resilient trees and animals are to a hotter and drier climate, Jesús shares …
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