We're taking it allll the way back to the very first Discovery special. A rewatch for me (Whitney) and a side-eyed first watch for me (Tim). In light of some...uh...legal happenings, we look back from the beginnings of this saga to catch the cringe, the red flags, and the tater tot casserole.
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An ex-fundamentalist sheds light on the dark side of the church… from the pulpit to the pews.
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How do I overcome the FEAR that it’s too late to chase a dream? How do I get out of being STUCK in perfectionism, worrying that people will judge me, and being caught up in comparison and self doubt? How do I stay motivated and stop procrastinating out of fear of failure, always feeling unprepared and unqualified before I even begin? How do I prioritize and start making consistent progress on my goals and dreams with highly successful habits, discipline, and focus? And the biggest question o ...
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Episode 137 - He's Holding Onto His Dignity For Dear Life
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2:13:06Get your sleeping bag ready, 'cause the gang is camping out in front of the house. I hope there's fire extinguisher in the area because Lego Hair is cooking hot dogs and chicken on the grill. Joe was the VIP in this episode. Setting up the tent while Lego stood there uselessly. Coordinating a lost boys' painting project. He's getting a little light…
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Duggar Family Friend Arrested for Child Sex Abuse + 11 More Shocking Church Scandals from June 2025
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18:09This month, we’re exposing 12 shocking abuse and misconduct cases tied to Baptist churches across the U.S.—all from just June 2025. From grooming and rape to fraud and cover-ups, these stories point to a deeply broken system that protects abusers over victims. For full breakdown and links to information referenced, visit: https://open.substack.com/…
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Jubilee Dawn | Her Ex-Husband SNAPPED – The Viral Story Started Important Conversations About DV
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51:13Watch her original TikTok about "the burger incident" – https://www.tiktok.com/@jubileedawns/video/7331447895377431854 Watch her full story on her YouTube channel: – Part 1: https://youtu.be/wEzLVvVMowQ – Part 2: https://youtu.be/xM0apL_mjqU – Part 3: https://youtu.be/LTctsnN0Gfw – Part 4: https://youtu.be/gaaI8NbQlds On this episode of the Preache…
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TLC was thoughtful this time and didn't make us sit through more footage of the gang driving for 20 hours! We fast forward to them at Niagara Falls. They all talked about how beautiful it was, but there were rainbows everywhere (gasp)! The older ones got to ride a jet boat while the little ones got to go fishing and stay dry. Appropriate for a show…
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Pastor Tim Forgy Allegedly Kept Abuse a Secret for 15 Years Before Ending His Own Life
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8:03Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys ✖️✖️✖️ If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help ✖️✖️✖️ On May 20th, 2025, Pastor Timothy Forgy—associate pastor and financial director at Liberty Baptist Church in North Carolina—died by suicide. For days, there was silence. No police reports. No media coverage. No p…
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Episode 135 - It's S-O-N...like Jesus.
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2:26:20On location at the TTM, Lego Hair says the quiet part loud when he says that "We" are gonna start a large scale yard project, and then proceeds to do nothing to help complete it. You know it's a shitshow when the production crew has to step to try and help them finish. We get treated to another montage of Famy attempting to cook and the fam celebra…
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Joe Rogan Says "I'm on Harvey Weinstein's Side" after Candace Owens Interview with Him from Prison
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28:03Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys ✖️✖️✖️ If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help ✖️✖️✖️ Did Candace Owens really try to paint Harvey Weinstein as the victim? In this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, host Eric Skwarczynski breaks down Owens’ controversial interview with Weinstein—and exposes how…
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Episode 134 - Leave Me Alone, Alligator!
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2:45:33The Duggars have such a busy day. Good Morning America is there to watch the, and I quote, "barely controlled chaos." Josie has to go visit the doc, and we meet the author of "Before You Meet Prince Charming". It's a good thing these kids don't have...real school to work around. In our dig we explore, Sarah Mally, the author of the aforementioned b…
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Pastor Tim Forgy Dies by Suicide After Abuse Allegation
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4:40On May 20, 2025, Pastor Tim Forgy of Liberty Baptist Church (NC) died by suicide—allegedly after being confronted about a 15-year-old sexual abuse case involving a teenage girl in Texas. In this video, I share the details from my phone conversation with Pastor Scott Gray, Forgy’s brother-in-law and senior pastor at Liberty. Gray confirmed the abuse…
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Female Worship Leader Assaulted Teen, Pastor Stole $135K, and 7 More Headlines from May 2025
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13:26Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys ✖️✖️✖️ If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help ✖️✖️✖️ Hear my full interview with Beth White mentioned at the end of the show: https://youtu.be/xuMFK_1bwuY ✖️✖️✖️ CONNECT WITH THE SHOW: preacherboyspodcast.com https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBoys https://www.facebo…
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Forced to "Pray the Gay Away" – Now He's a Queer Pastor | Brandan Robertson
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55:13Grab a copy of Queer & Christian: https://amzn.to/3Fay4au ✖️✖️✖️ In this episode of the Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric Skwarczynski sits down with Brandan Robertson—progressive pastor, author, activist, and a leading voice for LGBTQ+ inclusion in Christianity—for an honest conversation about faith, sexuality, deconstruction, and reclaiming spiritual s…
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No soft opens in this episode, we hard cut to the brood in the Big Apple. We get a total callback to a previous episode while watching Lego struggle to function in a public transit setting. Have you ever wanted to see too many people serve in a very small soup kitchen? Well, you're in luck. In our Dig, we explore more of the absolute drivel that Bi…
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Episode 132 - I Can See Yo' Back Skin
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2:25:28We watch the brood run amok in a Kiddie Casino. The tokens were flowing, the cheap pizza was getting devoured, and we see the Dancing King use hard-earned tickets to buy something for Hannie. Super Sweet gesture. We watch 2 of the boys, and Grandma get equipped with new bikes. In our Dig, we take a look at a book written about the early days of Bil…
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Episode 131 - There's No Froggin' Way
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2:31:35Welcome to the triumphant return of Dr. Diligence D.D.S! Pest and Joe can't seem to handle the one thing asked of them, before THEIR medical procedure. We then watch, yet again, as Lego tries to bend the rules. He is swiftly shutdown by our new favorite side character of the series. It is so satisfying to watch someone else who will not give in to …
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Why Procrastination Isn’t Laziness: How to Tame Your Inner Critic and Channel Your Best Work with Britt Frank
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54:54What if your procrastination and inner critic were actually trying to help you, not sabotage you? In this episode, Mary sits down with psychotherapist and author Britt Frank to unpack the myths and truths behind fear, procrastination, and the complex cast of “parts” within our minds, as explored in Britt’s new book, Align Your Mind. In this episode…
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Episode 130 - She Let the Pickle Out of the Jar
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2:20:09Josie and a random smattering of Duggars head back to Little Rock for a check-up. This, of course, leaves Jessa in charge. Lego Hair was there... and that's the extent of how much he brings to the table in these situations. In our Dig, we explore how this group loves to repackage parentification, into something the children "beg" to do. They PR spi…
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It’s Underestimated Launch Day! How to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear… and Move Forward ANYWAY with special guest host Elizabeth Evans
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1:09:28What if the thing holding you back the most isn’t the fear of failure, but the fear of actually being seen and succeeding? In this special launch day episode, Mary Marantz is the guest on her own show as she is interviewed by her producer, Elizabeth Evans, on the release of her third book, "Underestimated." The duo explore how embracing your pivots…
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Episode 129 - AND I'M AL*XIS BR*YER!!!
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2:22:01Watch as the Duggar Boys destroy an innocent taco restaurant. Lego Hair decides to repeatedly tell us the cliff's notes of this episode. "Josh bought a new car lot. It used to be an old taco restaurant". The Dancing King definitely took center stage. Lego Hair bringing a 6-year-old to participate in a major commercial demolition was not as producti…
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Elite School or Secret Cult? | Beth Granger Exposes Dark Truth Behind Grenville Christian College
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1:07:29In this gripping episode, Eric sits down with Beth Granger, the first staff child born at Grenville Christian College—once considered one of Canada’s most prestigious private religious schools. Beneath its polished surface, however, Grenville hid decades of coercion, public shaming, weaponized religion, and psychological abuse. Beth courageously sh…
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You’re Not Too Late: Trusting God’s Timing When You Feel like You Missed Your Window with Rebecca George
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59:38What if the most persistent lie fear tells you—the "you're already too late" lie —is actually the dullest, most common trick holding you back from your calling? In this episode, Mary welcomes author and podcaster, Rebecca George, to dive deep into the themes of waiting, longing, and naming your fears, all inspired by Rebecca’s new book, "You’re Not…
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Episode 128 - Church in the Front, Let's Not Talk About the Back
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2:04:39Snow Warning! We watch as the TTM is blanketed with 2 feet of snow! We can add to the Duggars Recipe Box with their showcase of "Snow Ice Cream". This is a completely foreign concept to a good ole Arizona couple like us. In our Dig, we get into a further examination of Jingy V's book. We take a hard look into how what-should-have-been a memoir to r…
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What If It’s Already Too Late: How Time Anxiety Keeps Us Playing Small with Chris Guillebeau
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43:19Have you ever felt like time is slipping through your fingers, leaving you anxious and overwhelmed? In this episode of the Mary Marantz Show, New York Times best-selling author Chris Guillebeau joins Mary to discuss his latest book, Time Anxiety, and how it addresses the ubiquitous feeling of time scarcity in our lives. By diving into Chris's insig…
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Episode 127 - M'Jildred is the New J'Balloon Man
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2:20:34If there's anything that we should expect out of children it's that they need to carry their weight and contribute to their family's finances. Every kid with a J name within the T.T.M. got rounded up to put in a little elbow grease. Send your kids to clean up a filthy residence you just bought? Check! Have your child grabbing last month's meatloaf?…
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What if it Doesn’t Work Out? Navigating Fear and Failure with Heather Thompson Day
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1:04:33Have you ever considered that the very act of chasing your passion might equally be the pathway to your greatest fulfillment AND profound suffering? In this episode of the Mary Marantz Show, guest Heather Thompson Day, author of "What If I'm Wrong? Navigating the Waves of Fear and Failure," joins Mary to explore the fine line between faith and delu…
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Episode 126 - Your Son Just Woke Up from his Nap!
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1:56:08We got a Special, Y'all! We get to see Anna have a baby, and Pest take a nap, give advice nobody wants, and overall be annoying. They should've title this episode "First REAL Duggar Grandchild" because this one is a boy. Move over, Mackynzie! We got to see Hannie be in the big girl's club. And get ready because the amount of Smug in this episode is…
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I Thought It Would Be Better Than This: How the Fear of Disappointment Keeps Us From Moving Forward with Jessica Turner
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59:49What would it take for you to rise from disappointment and rebuild a life you love? In this episode of the Mary Marantz Show, author and content creator, Jessica Turner shares her journey of starting over after a public divorce and finding beauty in unexpected places. As you listen, you'll find inspiration to view setbacks not as endings but as opp…
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Episode 125 - He's Praying at a 5th Grade Level
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2:28:30Those Duggars invade Colorado Springs to speak at Focus on the Family. We get more examples of how, even on the road, the Duggirls have to take care of, well…. everything. We watch Pest really provide for his pregnant wife by taking care of the duffel AND the backpack while his expecting wife pushes the luggage cart that is full to the brim. In our…
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When Self-Doubt Shouts ‘Who Am I to Even Try?’ with Niki Hardy
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1:13:48Are doubts about faith a pathway to intimacy with God rather than a sign of weakness? In this inspiring episode, Mary is joined by Niki Hardy, author, speaker, podcaster and coach, to explore the nuanced journey of faith filled with curiosity and imperfections. Tune in to: Discover why doubts can be a superpower that strengthens, rather than dimini…
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All Trauma is Spiritual Trauma | Dr. Hillary L. McBride
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51:23Join us for an insightful conversation with Dr. Hilary McBride, psychologist and author of "Holy Hurt," as we explore spiritual trauma, healing, and parenting. Dr. McBride shares her expertise on embodiment, the cyclical nature of healing, and the importance of repair in relationships. Pre-order "Holy Hurt" before April 16th, 2025, to receive exclu…
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Bestiality, Child Abuse, and a Predatory Music Leader | 9 Baptist Abuse Stories From March 2025
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24:04Click here for more context and relevant links: https://preacherboys.substack.com/p/bestiality-child-abuse-and-a-predatory ✖️✖️✖️ Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys ✖️✖️✖️ If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org/need-help ✖️✖️✖️ CONNECT WITH THE SHOW: preacherboyspodcast.com https://www.youtube.com/@PreacherBo…
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Episode 124 - Just a Spear, to Take the Edge Off
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2:17:16So Lego is taking Cannon to El Salvador for the first time. She decides to trim up that lego hair piece before they go. What are the kids gonna do with the parents gone? Well, the same as they always do : everything. In our Dig, we explore Mary Pride's book, "The Way Home:Beyond Feminism Back to Reality". The book that is credited with sparking the…
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"Patriarchy Boys" | A Crossover Episode with Peter Bell, Host of the Sons of Patriarchy
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1:10:03In this special crossover episode, Eric Skwarczynski, host of the Preacher Boys Podcast, and Peter Bell, host of the Sons of Patriarchy Podcast, come together for an in-depth conversation about exposing abuse within religious institutions. From the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement to the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CRE…
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Pastor Caught on Camera Breaking Into Victim’s Home
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42:49This week, former Thomas Road Baptist Church (TRBC) pastor Sergio Guardia was found guilty on all three counts, including Stalking and Breaking and Entering, according to court documents. The case, which has garnered significant local attention, reveals disturbing patterns—not only in Guardia’s actions but also in TRBC’s failure to protect the vict…
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The Brood (minus Josie and Cannon) make their way to go skiing. We get the triumphant return of "Buy Used Save the Difference", we watch the kids work with some very patient ski instructors, and Lego's buffoon-ery is on absolute display. He must not understand, because when he doesn't listen and is overbearing at home, Cannon looks at him sweetly a…
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This Bill Would Make Clergy in Washington Mandatory Reporters | Discussing SB 5375 with Senator Noel Frame
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10:09Right now, Washington is one of just five states that does not require clergy to report child abuse. Senator Noel Frame wants to change that. She has introduced Senate Bill 5375, a bill that would make clergy mandatory reporters, with no exceptions for what is said during a religious confession. This is a controversial stance for faith groups like …
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Pastor Trieber Silenced SA Victims for Years... He Just Got an Award From the Santa Clara Mayor
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14:43In March 2024, Trieber's ministry settled a lawsuit for an undisclosed amount after two women came forward with horrifying claims of abuse and cover-ups involving his brother-in-law, Mike Strouf. Fast forward to February 2025: Strouf’s name was removed from marquee signs at Santa Clara’s Magical Bridge Playground after information about the lawsuit…
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The Bates are back, baby! We are able to experience this mass of khakis and denim skirts through the eyes of the Duggar's house guest. She talks about how she can't tell some of them apart. Same, sister! With that many little kids, germs course through so many of them. I can only imagine the amount of uncovered coughing going on. In our Dig, we tak…
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Psychologist Dr. Diane Langberg on Creating Safer Churches
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1:00:22In this episode of the Preacher Boys podcast, Eric Skwarczynski sits down with Dr. Diane Langberg, a psychologist with over 50 years of experience, to discuss her new book, "When the Church Harms God's People." Dr. Langberg shares her insights on trauma, abuse within faith communities, and the importance of prioritizing individual well-being over i…
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This Alaska Church is Packed with Predators | Hannah St. George (pt. 2)
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1:07:27Eric Skwarczynski continues his conversation with Hannah St. George, a survivor of religious fundamentalism. Hannah shares more harrowing details of her experiences within Bible Baptist Church in Fairbanks, Alaska, focusing on the period leading up to her marriage and the disturbing secrets she began to uncover. Hannah discusses the controlling dyn…
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**This episode ALSO contains more Pest than is recommended for listening consumption. Digger discretion is still advised. ** This time he's pretending to be a big boss man. In typical Duggar fashion we get a horrible use of time and preparation so they're scrambling. The clan needs to go to city officials to see if they can re-zone a new car lot an…
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"Evangelicals Scare Me" | Tia Levings Reacts to Comedian's Funny and Horrifying Set
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48:39Marc Maron’s comedy special, End Times Fun, touches on a very real issue – the way many evangelical Christians view the end of the world. In this clip, which recently went viral on TikTok, Maron breaks down why evangelical end-times beliefs scare him, especially since many of these believers hold political power. In this episode, Eric and Tia Levin…
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Episode 120 - Girrrl, You ARE the Red Flag
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1:51:20Content Warning ***this episode had way too much Pest for anyone's consumption. Digger discretion is advised*** We get to see the "ginder" of Pest and Anna's next creation. We watch as Lego Hair is annoying, nothing new there. And Cannon drains all of the toner in the family's office copier, in order to print out two giant color pictures of the mal…
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Bill Maher Slammed Nike for Telling "Zombie Lie" About Patriarchy in Super Bowl Commercial
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7:42Read about growing up within a patriarchal fundamentalist religion from a female perspective: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebubbleverse/p/cant-keep-sweet?r=2xfl7u&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true ✖️✖️✖️ Support the Show: Patreon.com/PreacherBoys ✖️✖️✖️ If you or someone you know has experienced abuse, visit courage365.org…
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People Pleaser: Why Your Calling Is More Important Than Their Criticism with Jinger Duggar Vuolo
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59:27Do you feel trapped by your need to please others? Join Mary as she welcomes Jinger Duggar, the sixth child from the Duggar family, to discuss her new book and her journey to overcome the deeply ingrained habit of seeking approval. Through Jinger’s experiences, you'll gain a renewed perspective on how to live authentically and foster genuine connec…
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Her Mom Groomed Her for Abuse—Her Church Kept it Quiet | Hannah St. George
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1:53:38In this episode of The Preacher Boys Podcast, Eric Skwarczynski interviews Hannah St. George about her experiences growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement and the Bible Baptist Church of Fairbanks, Alaska. Hannah shares her story of resilience in the face of religious, familial and social pressures. She discusses the financ…
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I'm really not sure how Anna came up with the most creative idea...she invited the stateside Duggars over for dinner. We watch the crew at the Pest Nest and we see the Lost Boys menacing a kitty. It was too real for Mildred. We see the mission part of the Brood make their way back to the States in time to celebrate Josie's first birthday. In our Di…
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SC Church Hit with FIVE Lawsuits for Sexual Abuse and Cover-Up | Interview with Attorney Randy Hood
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36:44MorningStar Fellowship Church is facing multiple lawsuits regarding the alleged mishandling of sexual abuse allegations. These lawsuits claim that leaders at MorningStar failed to report allegations of sexual abuse to law enforcement and did not take appropriate precautions to protect children. Today I'm interviewing attorney Randy Hood, whose firm…
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Try Softer: How to Down Shift Out of Survival Mode by Integrating Your Story with Aundi Kolber
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1:07:01What if the drive to constantly achieve and perform is actually a method of survival from past traumas? In this episode, Mary Marantz is joined by Aundi Kolber, a therapist and author specializing in trauma and resilience, to discuss her approach encapsulated in her books "Try Softer" and her newest release, “Take What You Need.” After listening, y…
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Dr. Beth Allison Barr | How a Medieval Historian Entered a Modern Culture War
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57:31Pre-order a copy of Beth Allison Barr's book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife: https://amzn.to/3WSOM3v Beth Allison Barr is the U.S.A. Today’s bestselling author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth. An academic by training and a pastor’s wife by calling, Beth uses her unique voice to speak out on the rel…
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We get another chance to watch Buffoon and Company in Latin America. Watch him butcher a foreign language, again. We see the fam saying some tearful goodbyes to their new friends while Jana gets some serious rubik's cube time in. Back home, Famy gets to Fame while taking the little ones to a reptile "museum". Our unenthusiastic host has some really…
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