This week, Jake and Bob begin a new series where they welcome therapists from around the world to discuss the integration of faith in psychology, real life lessons learned, and the various methodologies they practice. Today, they are joined by Bernhard Streiselberger, a Professional Counselor from Austria, who specializes in Gestalt therapy and EMD…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by John Eldredge, president of Wild at Heart, to discuss what authentic discipleship looks like in a distracted digital age. They explore the subtle ways constant connectivity and information overload can erode our spiritual focus, hinder intimacy with God, and ultimately fragment our souls. John also shares stori…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Fr. John Horn, co-founder of the Institute for Priestly Formation (IPF). Fr. Horn shares details behind how IPF was founded, the significance of St. Ignatius' spiritual exercises in priestly formation, and the beauty of how formation has evolved within the Church. They also discuss the Sacrament of Reconciliati…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Teresa Pitt Green, co-founder of Spirit Fire, a ministry dedicated to “facilitating healing dialogue among those wounded by abuse in the Roman Catholic Church.” Teresa shares her own story of healing from abuse, the challenges she experienced, and what she learned along the way. She also shares practical advice…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Matt Rudolph, co-founder of Chrism which is a ministry for priests. Matt dives into the challenges faced by priests today including a need for community, support in embracing imperfections, and formation that emphasizes personal healing. They also share their visions for a more integrated approach to the priest…

This week, Jake and Bob share ideas on how to foster a healthy parish community. They not only reflect on the challenges of developing true community within a parish but also ponder how healthy parish life revolves around our personal healing and freedom. Through the use of multiple personal examples, Jake and Bob also explore the importance of the…

This week, Jake and Bob discuss intergenerational healing, taking into account recent pastoral advice from Bishops around the world. Intergenerational healing involves understanding how wounds and sins from previous generations can affect individuals in the present. Jake and Bob not only reflect on the Bishops’ letters, which express concern regard…

This week, Jake and Bob welcome back Dr. Christin McIntyre, a Thomistic psychiatrist, to discuss the concept of personality disorders. They begin by defining what a personality disorder is and explore how modern culture and social norms can influence and twist this definition. Then, they discuss the interplay between inherited traits, early life ex…

This week, Jake and Bob return to an important topic: the healing power of forgiveness. Both Jake and Bob have encountered forgiveness and mercy in their healing journeys and share personal stories about receiving forgiveness and forgiving others. They also discuss why forgiving and forgetting is not possible, how to know if you’ve truly forgiven s…

This week, Jake and Bob continue their conversation and focus on the primary mechanisms of our human nature when it comes to change. We are a composite of body, soul, and spirit, but many times we isolate change and healing to only one part of our nature. While this can lead to some change, when integrated on a physical, emotional, and spiritual le…

This week, Jake and Bob explore the complex process of personal change, what change requires, and why change can seem out of reach. In today’s culture of near instant gratification, it’s easy to think change should and will come about quickly and without much effort. While God can and does work many miracles, the reality is, change takes time, effo…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Fr. Mathias Thelen, Co-Founder and President of Encounter Ministries and Pastor of St. Patrick Catholic Parish in Brighton. Fr. Mathias shares his story of experiencing the transformative power of the Holy Spirit, encountering an advisor who fathered him in Seminary, and experiences of grace that shaped his min…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by psychiatrist Dr. Christin McIntyre to discuss spiritual warfare and mental health. They discuss the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas on human psychology and why learning about how our minds were created to work helps us spiritually and emotionally. Dr. Christin also discusses the importance of hope in prayer, wh…

Happy New Year! This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Dr. Chuck Leitz who has been seeing patients for over 40 years. They discuss Dr. Chuck’s journey towards integrative medicine and what he has learned along the way. Dr. Chuck reflects on the importance of introducing prayer into medical practice, the role of trust issues in healing, and the nece…

Merry Christmas! This week, Jake and Bob have a heartfelt conversation about loss and healing during the Christmas season. Bob shares about recently losing a family member and reflects on the healing power of being present with one another during times of grief. They also explore the significance of Jesus’ birth, the complexities of self-reflection…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by their longtime friend, Dr. Tom Nelson, a sports activation specialist. They discuss Dr. Tom’s journey of integrating faith into his medical practice and the physical and spiritual healing that has occurred as a result. Dr. Tom shares about the relationship between emotional and physical healing, a new perspecti…

This week, Jake and Bob answer your questions! They discuss topics ranging from the effectiveness of 12-step groups and obedience in religious life to explaining love to someone who has never experienced it and more. We enjoy receiving your emails and encourage you to send us a message or a question for a future show on our website here. Key Points…

Jake & Brett welcome their friend Dominic to the show and explore the complexities of marriage, personal growth, and the foundational role of sonship. They discuss intentionally fathering children, self-reliance, and the importance of a deep prayer life. Resources: Fathering Sons by Dominic and Christine Polito (available for purchase on Amazon by …

This week, Jake and Bob continue their conversation on redemptive suffering. They reflect on the Song of the Suffering Servant from Isaiah 53 and how Jesus redeems suffering itself. Jake and Bob also discuss how Jesus experienced all seven deadly wounds, challenged each identity lie, and how this in turn helps us challenge our own identity lies so …

This week, Jake and Bob dive deep into the concept of redemptive suffering. Whether you are grieving the loss of a loved one, processing a medical diagnosis, or struggling to love your neighbor, we all experience suffering in many forms throughout our lives. Jake and Bob discuss how these sufferings allow us to see clearly into our hearts and notic…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Carrie Archual, a longtime friend and prayerful intercessor in their families’ lives. Carrie walks us through her profound journey of a cancer diagnosis. From learning surrender to experiencing deep spiritual consolations, Carrie shares the transformative power of faith in the face of suffering. They also discu…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Isaac Wicker, a licensed counselor and co-founder of Known, a 12-week online Catholic coaching program to heal wounded relationships with God the Father. Isaac shares his story of his own mental health journey, his approach to helping others overcome their struggles and discover their worth, as well as the role…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Fr. Mark-Mary Ames, CFR to discuss the anatomy of freedom. Fr. Mark-Mary talks about the three pillars of freedom, the components of being loved, and how these concepts have helped bring about healing within his ministry work. They also discuss the importance of naming our needs, surrendering them to God, and w…

This week, Jake and Bob go back to the basics of healing. They reflect on the idea that it is not what happens to us that harms our souls, but rather our response. Jake and Bob also discuss the problem of evil done to another, the challenges that come with accepting the reality of what happened, and the role of pain in the healing process. Key Poin…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Fr. John Burns and Sr. Miriam James Heidland to talk about their ministry called Friends of the Bridegroom. Their ministry seeks to renew the Church through the healing, renewal, and expansion of women’s religious life in America. They also discuss the nuptial meaning of every vocation, the unique beauty women …

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Lance and Nicole Rodriguez to discuss spiritual parenting and the profound impact it has had on their lives. Lance and Nichole share their story of loss and restoration from learning they could not have biological children, to experiencing spiritual parenting, and from there, recognizing how God created an oppo…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Duane and Carrie Daunt to discuss what living out our identity of father or mother can look like as a biological parent. Duane and Carrie share the challenges and joys of parenting a large family and the role sacrifice plays in creating a strong and loving home. They also talk about how their own woundedness ha…

This week, Jake and Bob are once again joined by Heather Khym to conclude their four part series on the four identities of a human. In this episode, they focus on the identity of father/mother, discuss maturation versus healing, and explore how unresolved wounds in the other three identities surface in the identity of mother/father. They also discu…

Jake and Brett are back to discuss the importance of real, unfiltered, and authentic conversations between men about matters of the heart. In this episode, they share why many men struggle to have meaningful conversations, the role of emotions in human connection, and how to train our thoughts and emotions to become more mindful. Whether you feel e…

This week, Jake and Bob are once again joined by Heather Khym to continue with part three of their four part series on the four identities of a human. In this episode, they focus on the identity of bride/bridegroom and delve into the interconnectedness of each identity and why healing is essential to living them out fully. They discuss self-giving …

This week, Jake and Bob are once again joined by Heather Khym to continue with part two of their four part series on the four identities of a human. In this episode, they focus on the identity of brother/sister and explore the sense of belonging, safety, and camaraderie that stems from these types of relationships. They also delve into the wounds a…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Heather Khym to begin a four part series on the four identities of a human: son/daughter, brother/sister, husband/wife, father/mother. In this episode, they focus on the identity of our sonship/daughtership, explore why this is the foundational identity, and unpack the core realities behind this identity from b…

This week, Jake and Bob discuss the current state of therapy and its increasing popularity in society. They explore the factors contributing to the rise of interest in therapy, highlight the importance of philosophy and theology in therapy training, and reflect on the importance of objective truth in the healing process. Key Points: Therapy has bec…

This week, Jake and Bob discuss their journeys away from being therapists and the reasons behind their decisions. They reflect on their experiences, share how they outgrew their roles as therapists, and how they found other outlets to use their charisms and gifts. Jake and Bob also share the burdens they felt before and after making the change and …

This week, Jake and Bob discuss their recent ministry experiences at Franciscan University, Assisi, and various JPII Healing Center events. They explore the transformative power of healing ministry, why they prefer ministering to groups instead of individuals, and the significance of holy sites. Jake and Bob also share insights into why we need so …

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Bishop Andrew Miller, the founder of HeartSync Ministries and a priest in the Orthodox Evangelical Episcopal Church to conclude their series on Parts Work. Bishop Andrew discusses the four core parts of HeartSync, the importance of placing God in the center of our hearts, and his process for helping others heal…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Brya Hanan, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, to continue their series on parts work. Brya shares her personal story from trauma to healing and how it has influenced her work as a therapist. She introduces her model of parts work, discusses the five A’s of parts work therapy, and shares a practical medi…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Gerry Crete, a marriage and family counselor to discuss his work on internal family systems, or parts work. Parts work is a therapeutic approach that involves exploring and understanding the different “parts” of our personality and how they can influence the decisions we make in life. Jake, Bob, and Gerry explo…

This week, a special guest joins the podcast - Bob’s mother, Peggy. Bob has shared the story of his absent father and the healing that took place over years of prayer. Now, Peggy shares her testimony of tender love, hardship, and forgiveness. She opens up about the beautiful relationship she had with her husband, the pain experienced in the divorce…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Nicole Rodriguez as they continue their series on divorce. Nicole’s parents divorced when she was 11 years old & the trauma she experienced affected her through childhood and into her marriage. In the episode, she shares how her marriage suffered because of these wounds as well as the healing she has received t…

This week, Jake and Bob are joined by Joey Pontarelli, the founder and president of the ministry “Restored”. After finding a lack of help after his parents’ divorce, Joey decided to begin ministry with “Restored” to offer practical guidance and support for teens and young adults from broken families. Jake, Bob, and Joey discuss the wounds that come…

Happy New Year! Jake & Bob kick off the year by answering YOUR questions. They field listener submitted questions on topics including parenting, loneliness, anxiety, scrupulosity & maturity. Key Points Cultivating an environment of unconditional love as parents Our kids are observing and modeling our behavior more than we realize How to handle lone…

Merry Christmas from Jake & Bob! This week, they discuss the healing power of Jesus' infancy narrative. They recognize that this time of year can be difficult for many people and offer some solutions. Jake shares some of his triggers & wounds around the Christmas season so Bob leads him through a deep prayer and meditation. It’s a beautiful insight…

Jake & Brett have some big announcements to share about the future of the podcast. They share about some exciting endeavors that have begun in their lives & reminisce about some of the best moments, guests & insights from the five years of Way of the Heart. Thank you for listening! If you would like to stay connected with us and stay up to date on …

Sr. Miriam James Heidland shares her experience of being adopted. Jake, Bob & Sister have worked together for years and start the conversation off by discussing her impactful ministry, finding identity in Christ & her healing journey. She then shares about finding out she was adopted & the struggles & graces experienced along the way. Key Points Ge…

Jake & Brett have worked together with organizations to help solve some of their issues & grow in some places that needed improvement. In this episode, they share these leadership & relational skills with us! Whether you are a leader at your job, your Church or in your home, this episode has tools to help you lead well. Jake & Brett will challenge …