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What is it like to parent a neurodivergent child? How do you navigate sibling relationships, family dynamics, and, well, the outside world? We're Ty and Lisa, parents of three kids. Nora and June are neurotypical, and Milo is autistic. We're sharing our experiences as a family. Hear stories about our day-to-day-life and conversations about the hope and grief and fear that are all a part of this journey. We also try to share some of the moments that make us laugh - there is plenty of joy in t ...
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Ideas That Grow

NZ Rural Leaders

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Kia ora, you’ve joined the 'Ideas that Grow’ podcast - brought to you by Rural Leaders. In this series we’ll be drawing on the insights from innovative rural leaders, to help plant ideas that grow, so our regions can flourish. Ideas That Grow is presented in association with Farmer's Weekly. All guests are arranged by Rural Leaders, whose mission is to grow world class leaders through the Nuffield NZ Farming Scholarship and Kellogg Rural Leadership programme.
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Do you remember your earliest friend? One of the hardest things for us as parents is to witness how hard it can be for Milo to connect with other kids his age. He's increasingly eager and friendly and aware, but the communication gap is always there. What will friendship look like for Milo? Will it ever get easier? Spoiler alert - we don't know - b…
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Milo is getting ready to say goodbye to the early learning center where he began school-based services in 2022—and it’s bringing up a lot of emotions. In this episode, we’re sharing the highs and lows of his kindergarten year, and how we're feeling going into the summer. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email us at beyondthelabel24@gmail.…
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Here’s something we’ve often wished was easier with our kids: just going outside. In this episode, we go back to a beautiful March evening when Milo couldn’t make sense of what we were doing—or what his sisters were doing—and we couldn’t figure out why everything felt so hard. We also share a few moments since then that have really surprised us. Fo…
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Jenni Vernon, 1994 Nuffield Scholar, farmer and director, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about her leadership journey, her Nuffield experience, research, and on not underestimating the power of face-to-face communication in a sometimes-disconnected social media age.By NZ Rural Leaders
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Let's talk about the awkward, emotional, and often unspoken moments that can come with raising a neurodivergent child. Lisa shares a story she still replays years later and together we unpack the weight of apology, public perception, and the struggle between explaining and simply existing. If you've ever wrestled with whether to say "I'm sorry" or …
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We’re talking about those rare moments when you meet people who just get it. From a chance connection at a splash pad to an unexpected friendship formed after a cookie decorating class, we share a few times when we felt truly seen as parents of a neurodivergent kiddo. Finding new friendships as adults just in general isn’t easy — it takes effort, t…
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Not all milestones are big and flashy. In this episode, we reflect on 9 recent glimmers—small moments that brought us peace and reminded us how far Milo has come. From getting excited about dinner to thoughtfully picking out gifts for his sisters, each glimmer offers a glimpse into Milo’s world and the quiet, powerful progress he’s making. In honor…
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Milo was diagnosed with autism the month after his fourth birthday. As the parents of a young neurodivergent child, we will make it to the "other side" of challenges over and over again - just like we made it to the other side of the autism diagnostic process. Now, 2+ years removed from receiving Milo's diagnosis, we're sharing how we got there. Wh…
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Ever been in a season where sleep just... disappeared? In this episode, we’re sharing what it was like during a stretch of nearly six months when Milo couldn’t fall asleep for hours—and still managed to wake up before sunrise. We tried everything, and nothing worked… until two yellow blankets changed the game. Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel…
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When Milo was diagnosed with autism just weeks after turning 4, and as his behaviors became more challenging, I struggled with envy toward other families. Sometimes, I still do. It’s not rational. I know every family has its own challenges, whether we see them or not. But it’s real. And we’re talking about it in this episode. Follow us on Instagram…
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Phil Weir, 2020 Nuffield Scholar, farmer, farmer director for BLNZ and associate director for AGMARDT, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about the positive value industry good brings to farming. Phil also talks through some of the challenges and opportunities for sheep and beef farming and how his Nuffield Scholarship and researc…
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June & Milo. June is a bright, animated, and funny kid—and extremely stubborn. As the quintessential little sister, she wants Milo's attention, and she doesn’t care how she gets it. While we’ve been working on behavioral interventions for Milo at home and school, June and her four-year-old antagonizing ways have been... a challenge. They are at onc…
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Nora & Milo. They are 16 months apart, now ages 7 and 6. Since they were very young, they've had a special relationship. Nora is the proud big sister. Her love and affection for Milo is one of his greatest blessings - but we have to acknowledge that being his sister is not always easy. Sibling dynamics, particularly the siblings of kids with differ…
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When it comes to any special event, the decision of whether or not to go as a whole family, with Milo in tow, is carefully made. That was definitely true as we planned for a fall festival at a local farm in support of Nora's school. Go back in time with us to a beautiful Friday night last October... Follow us on Instagram @beyondthelabel440. Email …
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In this Ideas that Grow podcast, Lisa Lunn, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, Managing Editor at Farmers Weekly about her Kellogg research into the use of genetic technologies in agriculture. Lisa’s research presents a balanced view that unpacks the challenges, and the opportunities genetic technologies offer the food and fibre sector.…
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So often, two things can be true at the same time. That's the case with Milo's birthday. We feel so grateful for him, and for being able to watch him grow! But anticipating his birthday can make us feel a little bit sad. We're digging into our feelings on this episode - as well as talking about some of our favorite Milo moments from the last year. …
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Milo has a fantastic imagination: An orange, knit hat is one of his go-to items to pretend to be Danny Go. But if you try to reason with him that the hat is not a great idea to wear outside on a warm fall day, you're not likely to win. And so, when we set out on a family walk on the trail in Cuyahoga Valley National Park, Milo's hat was firmly in p…
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Last year at this time, our family was reeling. Our son, Milo, had been going on months of little sleep, struggling to go to bed and then waking before dawn, his anxiety pulsing. We were a year removed from his autism diagnosis in January 2023, but no closer to understanding how to best meet his needs. And then - his behaviors worsened. Milo became…
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In this podcast, Esther Donkersloot, 2024 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, managing editor at Farmers Weekly, about her research with LIC on breeding heat tolerant cows. Esther came to New Zealand to do her Masters’ thesis and never left. Good thing too. Having studied at the prestigious Wageningen University, she has steadily built a career…
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Jack Cocks, 2021 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson about his research into resilience in the face of adversity. Jack, who works on Mt. Nicholas Station with his family, faced his own adversity in the form of a brain aneurysm that sparked a recovery journey spanning 15 surgeries over six years. He shares the three…
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In this episode, Lisa Rogers, Rural Leaders CEO, talks to host Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, about the recently released report ‘A Path to Realising Leadership Potential in Aotearoa NZ’s Food and Fibre Sector’, along with its leadership development framework, and the leadership programmes serving as key tools for building more and e…
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Halfway through the 2024 Scholarship Programme, Scholar Rachel Baker gives us a unique perspective from inside Nuffield. Rachel speaks with Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor, about some of the similarities and differences between the farming systems in the countries visited so far with New Zealand’s. She discusses insights from Indonesia…
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Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson speaks to Campbell Parker, chief executive officer at DairyNZ. Campbell discusses his involvement with the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme and how leading with authenticity can go a long way to helping us all achieve big things in a time of rapid change.…
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Farmers Weekly managing editor Bryan Gibson speaks to Jen Corkran, senior animal protein analyst at Rabobank and a 2023 Kellogg Scholar. Jen discusses her day job to provide red meat insights to clients and farmers. She also unpacks what her Kellogg research tells us about trust, truth and the way farmers take on information.…
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Dr Matt Sowcik is currently on sabbatical from his role as Associate Professor in the Department of Agricultural Education and leadership at University of Florida. As part of his tour, he joined the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme in Lincoln. He spoke to Scholars (and Bryan Gibson) about the power of humility in leadership and its role in workin…
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Emma Crutchley, 2018 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly managing editor about some of the challenges sheep and beef farming faces in a water-short region, her Kellogg research, the Value Chain Innovation Programme, and the work being done on ‘Puketoi’ to find the value-add.By NZ Rural Leaders
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In an innovation story that covers the journey from an idea to the challenges of development, and to implementation. Julia Galwey, 2020 Kellogg Scholar, talks about Pearl Veal NZ, a new sustainable utilisation of the bobby calf resource. Pearl Veal NZ was the winner of the Silver Fern Farms Market Leader Award at the 2023 Beef+LambNZ Awards.…
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In this podcast, Dr Alison Stewart, CEO at the Foundation for Arable Research, talks with Farmers Weekly's Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about the role of arable in agriculture, her role at FAR and delivering research that benefits growers. Dr Stewart also discusses her involvement with the Kellogg Rural Leadership Programme and the importance of …
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In this podcast, Julian Reti Kaukau, 2021 Kellogg Scholar, talks with Farmers Weekly's Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about his Kellogg research and to share insights from his work With MPI Māori Agribusiness. In reference to his research, Julian reflects on the historic prowess of the Waikato Maniapoto Māori in the Agriculture and Horticulture sec…
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In this podcast, Dan Eb, 2021 Nuffield Scholar talks to Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson about the role of farming in an increasingly urbanised society. How might a future might look if we move to a food and farming system in New Zealand that works beyond only producing food, a system that not only benefits producers but every kiwi. Dan…
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Mel Poulton, farmer, and 2014 Nuffield Scholar, talks to Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, Bryan Gibson, about the opportunity that remains to extract ongoing value from our sector IP, building and learning together with nations developing agriculture, and building deeper trading relationships based on transformation before transaction.…
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In this podcast Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly Managing Editor, talks to Hamish Marr, 2019 Nuffield Scholar about his Nuffield research on glyphosate, New Zealand’s use of it as a strategic farming tool, and some of the challenges arable farmers are facing today. To read more about Hamish's work, head to: https://ruralleaders.co.nz/nuffield-scholars/…
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Lucie Douma, 2022 Nuffield Scholar, recently completed her final research report into data interoperability. The report was informed by extensive global travel and visits to a range of agricultural operations. In this Podcast, Lucie talks to Farmers Weekly Managing Editor Bryan Gibson, on the need for improvements to the way we collect, manage, and…
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In this month’s podcast, Devry Boughner Vorwerk, Summit Keynote Speaker, talks to Bryan Gibson about the ‘Humanverse’, and breaks down some of the key points from her session at the 2023 Rural Leaders Agribusiness Summit. Devry explains that the Humanverse concept asks farmers to take a bigger picture view by building longer term strategies - inste…
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No stranger to leadership within the sector, Dr Scott Champion spent more than 7 years as Chief Executive Officer of Beef + Lamb NZ and has worked across tertiary education, innovative organisations in the private sector, and industry service delivery and advocacy for more than 20 years. He talks with Bryan Gibson about his own background, his role…
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Kate Scott is a 2018 Nuffield Scholar who works at the intersection of farming, the environment and regulation. Kate talks to Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly Editor, about how and why the 2023 Rural Leaders Agribusiness Summit’s timing and offering should be of high value to farmers, producers and agribusiness, right now.…
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Rebecca Hyde is a 2017 Nuffield Scholar, a 2021 Kellogg Scholar, and a Farm Environment Consultant. She is better placed than most to see the differences between collaboration, cooperation and the value of finding common ground when it comes to farming and the environment. Rebecca discusses what collaboration looks like overseas, both inside and ou…
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Dame Jenny Shipley, former New Zealand Prime Minister and 1984 Kellogg Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson, Farmers Weekly Editor on leadership at the highest level and on leadership pathways. Dame Jenny discusses the need to keep challenging industry to push young people forward to develop as leaders and in turn ensure the future strength of our politi…
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Katie Vickers, a 2019 Kellogg Scholar, is on a mission to help regenerate our planet by influencing business practice to close the gap between purpose, people, and profit. Katie talks to Bryan Gibson from Farmer’s Weekly about how her Kellogg research, beliefs, and her role as Sustainability Manager at Rabobank, are going some way to helping achiev…
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Lynsey Stratford, 2021 Nuffield Scholar, talks to Bryan Gibson from Farmer’s Weekly. In this podcast, Lynsey unpacks her research and the paradox that while farmers care about their people, farms as workplaces are overrepresented in fatal accident and injury statistics. What can be done to improve this?…
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Julian Raine is a 1997 Nuffield Scholar who quietly gets on with things worth shouting about. In this podcast, Julian talks with Farmer’s Weekly Editor Bryan Gibson about his diverse operation, some of the challenges he faces and some of the innovations he’s making to meet them – including moving to robot-ready on horticultural sites. Julian also t…
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Bryan Gibson talks to Richard Fowler about alternative proteins and the challenges and opportunities they bring for dairy, sheep and beef and arable producers. Richard is a 2016 Nuffield Scholar who operates a dairy farm in Maketu, in the Bay of Plenty. His Nuffield research was on alternative proteins. You can read his report here ‘Will it have le…
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